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12 Dec 2019 14:05:43
So a team who is on top of the league and in the knockout stages of Champions league already in the verge of finalizing a deal, but we don't have clarity on what we are going to do in January window.

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12 Dec 2019 14:46:56
one team is well run, well organized and has a clear plan. the other doesnt.

12 Dec 2019 16:21:53
Becks, rightly or wrongly if United were linked to a 24 year old player with a 7.5m buy out clause playing in the Austrian league there would be swathes of people on here saying the owners are shopping in the bargain bucket and aren't prepared to back the manager.

I've seen Tamuki Morimino play twice for Salzburg. He looks a decent player. Could be a bargain for under 8m, or could just be a good squad player.

Much easier to get deals over the line when there is a relatively small buy out clause.

12 Dec 2019 16:28:32
Says who?

13 Dec 2019 00:00:57
who cares who they are buying it should be us we are worried about.

13 Dec 2019 01:27:50
Buy out clause? In sure ED002 said that is where the player buys out his contract.

13 Dec 2019 01:43:51
Becks,

You probably hadn’t even heard of the player this morning.

13 Dec 2019 03:41:47
I would wait a month becks you may end up looking daft.

12 Dec 2019 08:00:48
Football aside, today is going to be a big day in terms of who is elected.

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12 Dec 2019 09:37:52
pick your poison just about somes it up.

12 Dec 2019 10:27:30
The Adder Party for me.

12 Dec 2019 11:02:12
Death by suffocation or death by kindness.

12 Dec 2019 13:30:59
At least you lot on the mainland can have a say in who gets in!

12 Dec 2019 14:48:48
too true Noucamp99.all I hear is "you have to vote to keep the other lot out" out of what I ask? seeing as they have done sweet fa for the last 3-4 years.

12 Dec 2019 16:57:52
Stevie, don't worry if Boris gets in he'll have a chat with his mate Thrump about building the biggest most beautiful wall in the Irish sea😂.

12 Dec 2019 18:43:25
Norn_iron, our lot make Boris and Jezza look like political giants. Shappy, it's hard to tell the difference between satire and reality these days. Could be a goer 😁.

12 Dec 2019 19:14:59
Mainland my arse.

12 Dec 2019 22:13:14
It's great knowing we are all screwed no matter what happens😂.

12 Dec 2019 23:24:30
Lets hope they can all find a way to work together. I've no faith in any of them to be honest.

{Ed025's Note - nor me ken..

11 Dec 2019 07:33:45
🎶🎵Who’s that coming over the hill, is it United? Yes it’s United🎵🎶.

We’ve jumped Spurs and Arsenal and have Chelsea looking over their shoulders. Spurs will have a bounce with a new Manager, Arsenal might if they make a sensible appointment, Chelsea have looked pretty good but are not that far in front now.

We’ve had 2 great wins and it’s essential we carry that form through the next 4 very winnable games. Confidence and momentum are very important; hopefully Ole is in the players heads getting their motivation and application spot on.

Pretty sad that 4th looks to be the best we can hope for but given our form against the bigger teams, there are still 3 cups up for grabs.

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11 Dec 2019 11:57:36
I'd have bitten your hand off for top 4 at the start of the season, Tony. But yes, it is sad.

11 Dec 2019 12:39:18
It's not ideal, but is a fair reflection of where we find ourselves currently. We need rebuild both on and off the pitch. I reality we needed to start doing in during Sir Alex's final years. As such we are now playing catch up.

12 Dec 2019 12:21:57
4th would be a wonderful season in hindsight. As long as we are slowly improving, that's all we can ask for. Make sure we're better than the day before.

10 Dec 2019 22:01:28
Not seen much of haaland untill tonight.
Reminded me a bit of niall quinn . Yikes!

On that viewing its a no from me.

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11 Dec 2019 07:56:04
He's a super talent, but he is still very young with only a handful of UCL games experience. While he has only played professional football in the Norwegian and Austrian leagues which aren't the strongest.

At 19 years old it is to be expected that he will be inconsistent, its kind of normal that his performances will be up and down. He showed his age and immaturity last night when throwing the water bottle down having a little hissy fit. I think the media attention has probably cranked up the pressure on a lad who has until recently been an almost unknown.

I think he will have a great career and go on to be one of the best strikers in the world. However, I think he needs his next move to be to a club which will allow him to grow without the spotlight and pressure of a huge club.

I also don't think he is quite what we need right now. We have Martial who is 24 and Greenwood who is 18 currently vying for a starting spot. The issue both of them suffer with to a degree is inconsistency, which is to be expected as they are young players.

If we are to sign another striker we need someone ideally between the ages of 27-32. Someone with a bit of experience and who can provide the consistency that our other strikers don't yet have.

Also stylistically I'm not sure Haaland is quite what we need. He is a channel running striker, while we need a back to goal striker to offer us something different.

I think he will be a top player in a few years time, but we have Greenwood who will be that for us.

11 Dec 2019 12:40:19
Excellent point made regarding signing a striker between 27-32, Cavani in that aspect will be a brilliant signing.

11 Dec 2019 14:58:16
Becks, Most of the time we play with one central striker, In an ideal world we would have a top level striker who is 28 years old, consistent and will get us 25-30 goals a season. Then Greenwood would be his understudy, learn from him, come on for the final 10-15 minutes in games we are winning and play the FA and League cup games learning his trade and hopefully being ready in 2-4 years time to take over as first choice with either a new player brought in to compete with him, or the older player stepping back into to support role.

Instead we has Martial, who should be coming into his prime and is clearly talented. But he picks up too many injuries and he has developed as he should of done considering his talent when he was 19/ 20. You can blame that on the constant change of managers, people playing him on the left rather than centrally or a lack of focus and hard work from him. It really doesn't matter, he isn't where he should be development wise based on his talent.

This complicates the situation, so it might be better to go for an older striker to see if Martial can make it to the level we hope, while also not blocking Mason too much. Someone like Cavani or if I was really dreaming Lewandowski would be perfect. Whether we can get someone like that remains to be seen. A left wing choice might be Luis Suarez, Barcelona would be happy to sell him, he is EPL proven even if he has dropped his level slightly. Could be a good option for a 2-3 years. Although I can appreciate why most United fans would be against that idea.

11 Dec 2019 19:37:37
Of course he is s good player shaps but I've not seen him before and last night he was not going to see much of it.
He had a poor game I've no doubt he has a lot of potential. He would add a completely different option which is not a bad thing, lots of interest in him according to ed002 he needs to choose wisely. Where will be play most often, who plays a style that's to his strengths and where will be develop best?

12 Dec 2019 08:57:09
I'm not sure he is much different to what we have. He isn't a back to goal striker who'll hold the ball up and bring others into the game. At least not yet he isn't. He looks to run the channels and break in behind. Which is much the same way as Martial, Rashford and Greenwood play as strikers. He might be a little better in the air at corners and free kicks, but he isn't a target man.

The lad has a huge amount of talent, and if he makes the right move he will be vying with Mbappe as the best striker in the world in a few years time.

I just don't think a move to United is best for him or us right now. We need a target man who is consistent. He is a in-behind striker who is young and inconsistent.

I think the pressure and expectation at United will not be ideal for his development right now, we need a striker to come an and take some of the pressure off of our young strikers.

12 Dec 2019 11:41:15
I think Cavani would be perfect but also Timo Werner.

A player I’ve liked when I’ve seen him is Dominic Calvert Lewin. I’ve not seen him lots but he could be a good back up offering similar styles but also better hold up play.

12 Dec 2019 14:09:29
Cavani or Mandzukic for me guys. Haaland looks to be heading to Germany and that move looks like the right thing to do for him right now.

As said above, we need a back to goal striker to add a
Different dimension to our play, and more options on the right like Sancho (not to mention an attacking midfielder
And a DM)

12 Dec 2019 16:25:54
Utd road, Werner is no doubt a great player. But he has recently signed a new deal. Also stylistically he is a channel running striker rather than a target man.

If we can't get a top target man striker who is in his late 20's/ early 30's. Then I would go for Maxi Gomez at Valencia. Great player, strong, brings people into play quick and deadly in front of goal.

12 Dec 2019 19:18:46
I bet you A9my money you like that he will not be vying with mbappe for works top striker in a couple of years or ever.

10 Dec 2019 21:53:05
What are the chances that we draw Inter in the next phase of the europa league? . You just know its happening 😂.

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10 Dec 2019 23:39:40
I thought the same.

09 Dec 2019 09:16:31
Can the more technically astute people here shed more light on the Enigma that is Jesse Lingard.
Personally I think he is good at the number 10 role when we need to press high and chase down balls, however he isn't what we need in that position when teams sit deep and we need to break them down, He isn't that sort of creative no. 10.

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09 Dec 2019 10:35:43
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. He isn't great when there isn't much space, he doesn't have the pace or power to shrug players off or get away from a tight marker.

What he does excellently well though is disrupt the opposition with intelligent pressing, making it hard for teams to build from the back. He also makes unselfish runs, knowing he is unlikely to get the ball, but by making the run it forces an opposition defender to go with him opening up space for other players. This is far more useful when teams aren't defending in numbers as it will often create an overload. Whereas, when teams defending deep or in numbers the space his runs create often have an opposition midfielder drop in to and therefore negate the run Jesse has made.

Can people remember when we played Real Madrid with Sir Alex in 2013, when he played Welbeck as a disruptive attacker, sitting on Alonso and stopping him get into a passing rhythm. It nearly worked and possibly would have done had we not been reduced to 10 men in early in the second half with Nani's red card.

Lingard plays best when doing a similar job. Against City he didn't let Rodri settle, and the same with Winks against Spurs.

Lingard is one of those players you want in your team when your up against a team as good or better than you. A player who will disrupt the other teams rhythm. While also having a knack for scoring goals in the big games, semi finals and finals included.

However, against teams that sit deep crowding out the space his off the ball runs make, while they also often concede possession which means they don't have a key playmaker for Jesse to disrupt his influence on the game is limited. He doesn't have the pace, power, dribbling ability or clever passing to open those teams up. As a result his impact is reduced.

We need a player who can play off the main striker, who can come deep, then either dribble past to break the lines or create a chance by seeing and making the passes that know one else can see or make.

That kind of player will be far more effective against the top teams.

A squad is all about having a mix of players, with different strengths and skill which can be used when the situation requires. A destructive No.10 and a creative/ goal scoring No.10 have different skills and different uses, having both will enable us to take advantage of every teams weaknesses and increase our ability to get results against all sides.

Jesse probably isn't needed against 12 teams in the league, but will be useful against the top 6-7 sides, and against the best sides in Europe if and when we play them.

09 Dec 2019 10:43:30
Good piece Shappy. Echoed my thoughts.

09 Dec 2019 11:01:26
Against the lesser teams with our current squad If we aren't winning by the 60th min or so I would like ole to sub jesse off for Greenwood, play Greenwood uptop and pull martial back to be the link man in Jesse's position, 2 years ago mata would of been perfect in the jesse position but that ship has unfortunately sailed.

09 Dec 2019 11:10:01
Schnauzer, Martial won't be tracking back for that role.
I'd suggest to get Erikson who is a safe option as well as cost effective.

09 Dec 2019 11:49:53
TrueRedDevil, I like Eriksen as a player, and he would fit what we need in so many ways. My concern is bringing in another player who doesn't really want to be at the club. With Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Sanchez and Pogba all didn't really want to join and only did because of the money we put on offer was far greater than they would get elsewhere.
I have a concern that we would see the lazy Eriksen who only turned up when he wanted to while at Ajax rather than the determined Eriksen who turned up every week for Spurs under Pochettino when trying to prove to the top clubs (Real Madrid and Barcelona) they they should have got him when he left Ajax. They of course didn't go for him then, even though they regularly watched him as they didn't think he imposed himself enough in a match.
If his dream move was denied him again would he have the drive to prove himself or will he just take the biggest contract he can and coast?

09 Dec 2019 12:48:28
Wouldn’t touch Eriksen with a barge pole. Legs have gone. Milk turns quicker than him. Would only be coming for a payday.

09 Dec 2019 14:26:51
Blackpool Red, I wouldn't say his legs are gone, the guy is only 27. He was never a pacy player. I think he just looks unhappy and unmotivated. He hasn't got the bit between his teeth at the moment. My concern is would signing for us get that drive back for him? If he doesn't really want to join us then I doubt it will and that's my concern.

If he does join and he has got his tail up and wants to prove to everyone that he belongs at the highest level then we will have a great signing on our hands.

If he just wants out of Spurs, and can't get his preferred move and signs for us because our offer is the strongest financially and he's coming for a big pay day and to coast, then he will be a terrible signing and a bad influence on our younger players.

09 Dec 2019 14:15:25
Well Shappy, in that case, De Gea too didn't want to be here. Not once but multiple times.
But look at him now, he looks to be back to his best.

I believe Erikson will step up as he is entering his peak years and he will be determined to win trophies which he hadn't enjoyed being with Spurs.
He will transform our attack especially against teams that park the bus. EPL proven, free kick specialist. Ticks most of the boxes.
He will be affordable as well.

09 Dec 2019 17:10:08
TrueRedDevil, There is a difference between preferring to be somewhere else while your happy enough where you are, and wanting to be somewhere other than where you end up.

There is also a difference between signing a very good player arguably one of the best in the league such as Eriksen, and keeping a world class player who is arguably one of the best in the world.

DDG, has shown himself to be a world class keeper at United and has always been supported by the club and the fans even when he struggled initially. He at some point chose willingly to join us. At some point he would have liked to return to his home city, although he and his family did harbour a few concerns about the press in Madrid. So when it didn't happen he wasn't unhappy to still be with us, a team he wanted to play for.

Whereas, for Eriksen he has never showed a desire to play for us. He want's to play in Spain. If that doesn't happen then will he have the same desire to play in Manchester? Will he rock up just for the pay check? Or will he have the drive to work hard?

10 Dec 2019 15:30:50
TrueRedDevil - I wouldn't have a problem with our number 10 not tracking back when we are trying to force a goal.

08 Dec 2019 18:29:50
Story going around that Ole brought Keane in to talk to the players about being a United player and what is expected every week. He is working hard to get the old culture back of fighting every second for every ball. We lost our identity but we are slowly getting it back, but we need the consistency now. Against the lesser teams who sit deep we need a plan B, either strong CF and deliver crosses into the box or a clever play maker to open them up. I would love to see us buy 2 players in Jan, either one of above type and a strong defensive midfielder. Bet Pogba wants back in the team now, for a few weeks at least.

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10 Dec 2019 20:41:41
bull to me, why would United let Keane anywhere near the club?

08 Dec 2019 18:02:08
The more i see Raul Jimenez of wolves the more i think he would be brilliant for us if we could get him, supplies and scores goals.

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