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12 May 2024 14:21:48
There is a very important game today, just about to kick off.
Our women are in the F. A. Cup Final for a second successive year.
Come on you ladies, best of luck and let's have something to shout about.

12 May 2024 14:54:37
Bring it home ladies…show em how’s it’s done!

12 May 2024 15:20:07
Wot a goal!

12 May 2024 16:02:54
Glad they have brought Malard on, she won't duck out of any challenges!

12 May 2024 16:26:41
Very dominant display by much the better team, ultimately spurred by a world class finish after some great opportunities were squandered.

12 May 2024 16:40:17
4-0 win United 👏👏👏.

12 May 2024 07:39:11
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Evaluating Potential Manchester United Managers

12 May 2024 11:19:58
Very good summary Shappy. I agree with your choice’s. I do also think the Crystal Palace manager has come in and done a great job as well, maybe a consideration. We are not the attractive proposition we one were but with a much better setup, fingers crossed it all comes together. We definitely need patience but if we can what see a clear plan, it will make a lot of difference.

12 May 2024 11:32:51
Glasner has had a great start to life at Palace, I'd want to see him over a whole season at Palace before judging him to be honest.

12 May 2024 11:57:15
I've said it from the start the best 2 options are Amorim and Potter they can both implement a style that the club can work to over time.

This is something I just don't see with people like Tuchel, Southgate, even Zidane.

I agree mostly with your review of de zerbi except I don't see any tactical nous, he has a tactic/ style which either works or it doesn't a little bit like ETH there's 1 way and it's never really adjusted for issues.

I've heard more about Amorim and the state of sporting when he came in to make him even more my first choice, ed has said not to get our hopes up but with other clubs not taking him we might have a chance still, I also think based on some of our transfer targets from eds list he's a good choice.

I do think the new set up are making a slight mistake not making it clear either way on the manager. If he's going at the end of the season just say that, make it clear to the players they're performances and attitudes are being monitored by Wilcox, fletcher, brailsford. If he's staying even more so it's better to say it as everything's falling apart and the questions are constantly about the manager you look daft saying it in 2/ 3 weeks time when there's no football.

Maybe there's a contractual or cash or a mix of both reason that's all I can think.

12 May 2024 13:31:19
They probably are DBrooks, just not airing their laundry in pubkic quite rightly. They all know they’re on trial by now surely?

12 May 2024 13:56:48
Eric just don't see the benefit anymore in not clearing up the manager situation he's not going before the end of the season that's clear.

If your keeping him you probably should have said a few weeks back saying it now or later looks a bit daft, if he's going stop the questions and let things settle a bit before the FA Cup final.

12 May 2024 18:28:30
Possibly. But maybe their first choice is no longer available for the time being, so making a wrong move and appointing a ten Hag replacement they didn’t really want would be a disaster. We’ve seen that with our squad when we sign our 3/ 4th choice.

Maybe it’s better off keeping him for now. Maybe they’ve just changed their minds which is also ok to do.

11 May 2024 21:22:37
Potential free agents for us to seriously consider.

Tosin Adarabioyo CB
Wilfred Ndidi DM
Alex Meret GK
Juan Miranda LB
Luka Jovic CF

Does this provide a bolster to our squad, whilst we navigate any financial restrictions/ implications of not achieving Europe and shipping out all the dross.

Not saying they are the answer, just opening the discussion.

11 May 2024 22:40:11
Not convinced by any of them.

12 May 2024 00:19:20
The most sensible thing I've read in here was ed001 saying no point in suggesting a ying or anybody until the footballing strategy is clear.
I'm sure wilcox and ashworth will be aligned.
All players need to fit that agenda.
Once that's defined and clear and once we know which coach they want to carry that through then we will have at least semi informed opinions on which players we fell will fit the bill.
Too many unknowns at this stage.
I expect things will become clearer at the end of the season and euros and going into the window.
Who's stays who goes who comes in. Have to say I've not looked forward to a summer quite as much for a long time. Should be great craic.

12 May 2024 08:32:08
Of those I think Adarabioyo is the most likely to actually be pursued. He was at City's academy while Jason Wilcox was running it, so our new technical director knows him personally. We also will likely need to sign multiple CB's this summer, and Tosin on a free, at a good age and with EPL experience could be a no brainer.

Ndidi and Miranda are both a solid no for me. Neither good enough even as squad players.

Meret as a back up keeper would be a decent signing, although I'd expect he'll want to go somewhere to be first choice. While I'm not convinced he is at the level we would need for him to be first choice.

Jovic is the interesting one on that list, he has the talent, but has too often struggled to turn that into performances on the pitch when at a top club. Maybe he can't take the pressure. Considering that AC Milan have an option to extend his contract then I think we can rule him out. Either Milan extend and he isn't available for free or Milan choose not to which kind of tells us everything we need to know about him.

There is a name you've left off which I would definitely be considering this summer. Danny Welbeck. He could have a similar impact to Evans this season. A solid EPL professional, who knows the club and our values and who can play 12-18 games across all competitions next season to give others a break. Stylistically he's the right sort of striker that we need and he has the experience that he used to can help develop and improve a player like Højlund.

Others we maybe should look at would be Iheanacho from Leicester, Rabiot from Juventus and Marten De Roon from Atalanta.

Iheanacho is a creative forward who could be solid back up for Højlund.

Rabiot based on ability is surely a player we should sign, the only issue is his mum. He could be a smart signing though, he adds physically and technical ability to our midfield, while at 29 he'd be great for 2-3 years while Mainoo develops. Personally I think we need a couple of signings in midfield and someone like Rabiot alongside another midfield signing makes sense.

De Roon could be an alternative, but at 33 he'd likely be a one season option only.

If we signed Adarabioyo, Rabiot and Welbeck on free transfers, Meret too if he'd be happy to sign as back up, that would give us some better squad options and might allow us to focus more of the spending on aop quality CB, a top class CDM and maybe a winger and full back. Then great.

12 May 2024 09:17:59
Following Fiorentina closely I’ve seen a lot of Jovic including in the flesh. He struggled to pin down the starting role there, barely scoring any goals in a season that led to a European final.

He barely starts for Milan with most appearances coming from the bench. In fact he’s only had 1 good season in his entire career and that was for Eintracht Frankfurt. That was a one-off that put him on the map.

I said Amrabat would be an unspectacular signing, I think Jovic would be worse. Even as a backup to Hojlund.

12 May 2024 09:30:17
Shappy,

You’ve lost the plot, how in the world would Danny Welbeck improve us? I can just imagine the reaction.

Tosin looks a good player every time I see him, would be a good signing I think.

12 May 2024 09:37:42
Re Spurs. Graham Potter was watching Spurs vs Burnley yesterday.

12 May 2024 10:41:13
GtS, Welbeck has 20 league starts and 7 sub appearances for a Brighton side that boast João Pedro (17 starts, 12 subs) and Evan Ferguson (15 starts and 12 subs) as striker options.

He's a very complete forward who can run the channels, or drop deep and link play. He's very good at creating space and chances for his teammates. He's also a local lad and former academy player, someone who knows the club and the league and could come in and make 15-20 starts next season to allow Højlund time to rest. While he can also pass that experience on to the young lad. While not being a player who will block the development of the 70m, 21 year old Dane.

If we are looking to sign a player with a similar skillset and profile who is 5-6 years younger then we'd be looking to pay between 30-50m in today's market. While they are unlikely to be EPL proven, which increase their likelihood of flopping.

If we are looking bat signing a back up striker to rotate with Højlund (which given how much we have spent on him and the need to spend elsewhere in the squad seems the best course of action) then we want to make sure we aren't committing a large proportion of our budget to buying someone to sit on the bench, especially when that means there will be players not good enough in our starting line up in other positions.

Signing Welbeck would only be a short term solution for the next season or two at most. But it means we can delay spending a large sum of money on a player to sit on the bench at a time where we need to make sure we get the absolute most out of every pound we spend.

As for how does Welbeck improve us? He's better than any current back up options we have to Højlund at centre forward. Ergo he improves us.

12 May 2024 10:41:27
Tosin for me is a no brainer.

12 May 2024 13:37:45
Hang on… Wellbeck?

12 May 2024 18:46:36
I always liked Ndidi. Surprised he didn't get a move when Leicester went down. Maybe that says something 🤷‍♂️.

11 May 2024 17:34:30
A CB to consider, Murillo from Forest. I always forget about him until Forest are on TV but from what I’ve seen, I think he’s a decent player. Might be a good addition.

{Ed001's Note - excellent player, except that he is very poor in the air.}

11 May 2024 18:27:59
I think he'd be phenomenal on the left of a back three. Quick, great on the ball, excellent at carrying the ball forward, good defensive instincts, fantastic technique. As Ed says his only real weakness is aerially he is poor. A back three would cover that somewhat, while making the most of his other considerable talents.

He should be top of any EPL teams list if they are looking to play a three at the back system.

{Ed001's Note - I think he would be a perfect fit for Man City and their way of playing, though that is nominally a back four.}

11 May 2024 22:44:18
He would be an excellent addition and maybe a good coach would help him with aerial challenges.

12 May 2024 08:38:55
Ed001, I agree I think he looks a Pep player. Although with Gvardiol and Ake I'm not sure they need him right now.

I think in a side that dominates the game like City do, that Murillo's weakness in the air wouldn't be exposed very often at all.

12 May 2024 10:42:10
You're right ed, he will do well down in League 2 with city 😂.

11 May 2024 11:05:18


Shappy has written an article entitled, Evaluating Potential Manchester United Managers

11 May 2024 11:57:32
Agree with most of that shappy, although I do think tuchel may be what we need at this moment in time. Up until after Christmas I would of been happy for ten hag to continue but I just don't think he has improved any player. His recruitment has been a massive let down and can't see him turning things around.
Interesting choice in the Bournemouth manager.
I don't know anything about the sporting manager but agree he should be high up on the list.
Southgate is a no for me but I've just got the feeling it will be him.
I wouldn't be against potter at all. I was impressed with how he built the Brighton team and he does have a good relationship with Dan ashworth.
Wants essential is if it's a new coach or ten hag, they need to be all in line with the new set up. A clear structure and plan and the team can go from there.

11 May 2024 13:12:47
Iraola is the interesting one of the list, probably a season or two too soon for him.

I don't think there is anything wrong with getting a 2-3 year manager like Tuchel. Let the new structure and staff settle in and get the players they want to suit the style they want to play, then getting in a longer term replacement who can coach that style.

11 May 2024 13:28:45
Shappy - I thinks that’s a pretty fair and insightful assessment pal.

Where do you stand on EtH?

I think when we consider EtH the most likely candidates should form some part of the discussion.

Southgate, Potter and Touchel are the names most strongly linked!

11 May 2024 13:43:37
Tom, I don't think there is any point in going for a quick fix "kick up the backside" type manager.

You can't rebuild while still trying to just skim a little plaster over the crack in a subsiding wall.

What advantage does hiring someone like Tuchel bring?

We don't have a squad capable of challenging so he won't win anything of significance in the short term.

He doesn't really have a record of developing and improving young players, so what happens with the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho and Højlund over the next couple of years?

He doesn't play entertaining or exciting football, or has a track record of settling the foundations for a long term playing style. He's fairly reactive and pragmatic as a coach, looking at how he can win the battle and not the war.

He has a record of falling out with CEO's, sporting directors and players. He hasn't got a record of really galvanizing a group of players and setting up clear standards or expectations to create a harmonious dressing room that are driven to work hard for eachother.

In which case what issue that we have does he solve?

When he'd invariably leave in 18 months time, he wouldn't have changed the atmosphere or issues in the dressing room.
He won't have won anything of significance.
He won't have set a clear and consistent playing style.
He won't have helped develop the younger players in the squad into the top stars. He may have even hindered their development with his negative, reductive approach (particularly as 2 of the 3 beat young players in our squad are offensive players) .

We'd be back exactly to where we are now, but just 2 years down the line.

Still needing the dressing culture fixed.

Still needing a clear style of play.

Still probably needing half the squad rebuilt to suit this new style of play.

Back more or less at square one, what is the point?

I'd rather have a young manager and 2 years outside of the UCL (if that was needed) to actually make real progress and to start to see our club turning around.

To have a culture at the club that demands excellence and has the highest standards. Players working hard and dedicated to becoming better players and a better team.

To have a clear style of play, ideally one in keeping with the Manchester United offensive, entertaining, style of football.

To have seen our young players develop into players on the cusp of becoming or even actually world class by that point.

To have been able to rebuild the squad in this image by steadily removing players who don't suit this new direction of the club, and by recruiting those that do.

Any new signings will struggle to succeed if they are being bought by the club to suit one vision, but are being asked to play differently due to a manager looking to constantly tweak the playing style/ tactics to win the current game and not embed a playing style. So even if the clubs recruitment is better under the new structure, if the manager isn't pulling in the same direction then the players will struggle to adapt to the club and perform to the best of their ability. Right players, right club, wrong manager.

If we replace the manager then it has to be a full reset, someone who perfectly fits the vision of the club, so everyone is pulling in the same direction towards the same goal.

11 May 2024 14:18:36
Problem is there is no obvious replacements at the moment, the English contingent, Potter would crumble under the pressure especially after his comments while managing Chelsea, Southgate would be more resilient, but is he the right choice, most seem to say no.

The others are all untested managing at club like United and could be chewed up and spat out during the transition period we see over the next few years.

Before we throw another manager to the lions, let's get our structure sorted, our backroom staff in place and the recruitment working.

11 May 2024 14:47:12
DLIB, at the moment I'd still keep EtH for next season. Give him a year with a proper set up around him and see what he can do.

Worst case scenario is he isn't up to it and you replace him next summer when his contract is up and you don't have to pay him 5-8m to leave.

While next summer, the new structure will all be fully in place, they will have time to assess what they want and who best suits that. Also they are probably in a better position to get the right guy in for the set up they have at that point.

It gives them time to plan it better and make any transition smoother, rather than rushed like it'd be this summer.

I'm not fully convinced by any of the options available, with some of the younger managers looking like probably the best option. Yet in a years time those managers will have another season under their belt, and a bigger body of work to judge them on, meaning that you can be more sure of who suits the project and who doesn't.

That said, the feel around the club is starting to get toxic again, the media and the online fanbase are starting to bay for blood. If things don't turn around quickly then it might be too late for EtH to be given a chance next season as the tipping point will have already been passed.

A heavy defeat tomorrow against Arsenal could finally put the writing on the wall. To be honest I don't see anything less than a 3-0 defeat at absolute best. Arsenal are arguably in the best form of the season, hardly conceding any chances and scoring for fun. While we just got humped by Palace and have absolutely no fit CB's to play.

I genuinely fear we could have a record defeat tomorrow, and if that happens it won't matter whether EtH has the ability to turn it around or not, the noise will become so deafening that it will become impossible for the club to give him that chance. He might not even make the FA cup final, possibly with McLaren taking over first team manager duties for the final game or so of the season.

11 May 2024 15:08:42
Problem is… THERE IS NO VACANCY lol :p.

11 May 2024 16:11:13
No spenno there isn't a vacancy. Oh wait on. Sorry he's gone and he knows it and so the players. ken has told them, and us multiple times. 😁.

11 May 2024 16:44:24
Spenno and Fizz, while there is no vacancy atm, and personally I'm still in the give EtH another year camp, the reality is that the managers position is very likely to be available this summer.

Looking at how the new co-owners have started to clear shop with the backroom team it would be surprising if they happened to feel the current manager was the best man for the job.

While the current form of the team, the results and the general building of a feeling of unhappiness with the manager seems to suggest that it's highly likely that EtH will not be Manchester United manager come the start of next season. Whether you're for him or against.

11 May 2024 18:23:04
That's all fair points on tuchel. I just feel he would do a good job, don't know why just a gut feeling.
Like I say I was all for backing eth until after Christmas. I just can't see him getting a tune from these players.
My preference would be potter but has he got the personality for the job? I'd like to think he would grow into the job knowing he had time and the backing of the new football structure.
To be honest I'd be happy with a coach who got the best from the players available and had a clear vision which was in line with wilcox and ashworth and who ever else we appoint.

11 May 2024 19:00:52
You'd think SJR and his team would have gauged the feeling amongst the majority of Utd fans in being totally underwhelmed by the thought of Southgate being appointed.

I'm not saying clubs should be ruled by what fans think by any means, but you'd think if ETH does go then the new leadership structure would want to start off on the right foot with an appointment that the fans could get behind, or at the very least not be apathetic towards.

11 May 2024 21:10:47
Has EtH been sacked? .

11 May 2024 23:24:03
I don’t think any established manager would want the job realistically would they? Half the squad are pish poor and the likes of Zidane/ Mourinho/ Tuchel/ Conte etc usually prefer established players and wanting to compete for titles. Given recruitment is meant to be leaning more towards younger players I’m not sure any of them would get the signings they’d want in or the club would have to pivot from their plan from the start.

Then the younger up and coming managers, they might be tempted by the job if they feel like they’re sort of immune from the sack whilst the squad is turned over etc. Else why risk a promising career and potentially end up like Potter at Chelsea. Tainted by a job that was impossible and sacked despite being promised time to fix things and establish a culture.

12 May 2024 01:00:05
You can't keep EtH but not back him (extend contract, continue ue to buy players to suit his style of play) as the player power nonsense will not go away if they believe he is always standing on the presipice.

I would give him a 2 year deal and commit that the club is going to commit to the reset that is necessary and actually seeing it through.

If there is no improvement you can still pull the trigger on a new manager if the new management team have seen enough.

Whatever they do, I hope they can move quickly and efficiently. Sick of seeing the media feasting on our entrails! can't wait to have the club and fan base pulling in the same direction again.

12 May 2024 09:45:47
Tom, that's kind of the nexus of the problem any manager will have at Manchester United.

We have a disjointed, Frankenstein squad that isn't suited to playing any specific style of play.

That means the manager (whoever that is) has one of two choices.

1. They try to impart a style on the squad knowing full well that a large majority of them won't be able to play that style to the required standard. That means performances and results will be very inconsistent. The aim isn't to win in the short term but to develop a playing style. That will take a couple of season's while the squad is rebuilt to suit that style. That probably means taking a step back and a season or two of not getting top four while that new style in developed and the squad built to suit it.
I know some people will say other managers have managed to impart their style quicker at other clubs. Yet the reality is that they have a squad that is for the most part capable of playing their style and they have been hired because they suit the squad the club has.

2. The second option is to be pragmatic, to try and get the results by changing your teams style and tactics on a game by game basis to suit the players you have and to mitigate the strengths and take advantage of the weaknesses of the opposition. This will probably get you more consistent results in the short term but long term isn't improving the team or developing a specific playing style.

Looking at the club and the fanbase it's funny how things flip.

At the start of last season EtH tried to impart his style on the team, the first option, and we lost the first couple of games as he didn't have a squad capable. He then changed tac and went with the second more pragmatic option. We got results and finished 3rd and made two cup finals.

Personally I think EtH realised quickly that he needed to get results and he didn't have the squad to play his style in the EPL.

Yet the fans complained that we hadn't really developed a style of play, something they wanted and hoped for when we hired EtH.

This season there seems to be a change in approach, maybe the manager hoped with a few more signings he could start to impart his style more effectively. Either way he has chosen to stick to his guns this season and keep going with the project and trying to impart his style on the team. While we would have likely still been inconsistent as he doesn't have the squad to play his preferred style to the level needed, the injuries have had a massive effect, totally undermining any chance of getting a consistent run of games together with the core players he needs to play his style of play.

Here is where the fans impatience has caused a flip, those same fans who were crying out for a specific style of play to be developed in the team are the same ones now saying that the manager needs to be more pragmatic and play a way that suits the players he has.

It's a damned if you do, and damned if you don't position for the manager and why until the fans as whole fanbase wise up to what needs to happen.

If you want us to rebuild and become a power in football again then we need to strip it back. We need to start to impart a style, we need to rebuild the squad and that will take YEARS, not weeks, not months, not even just one season.

We will need at least two whole seasons of recruiting players to suit that new style AND attempting to play that style every week, in every game regardless of results or performances.

If that means two seasons finishing somewhere between 10th and 6th then that is what is needed.

It means as fans we will be the butt of jokes from other fans, it does mean we will have to watch many bad losses, inconsistent football and be okay with being frustrated.

It's a long road and we will need patience to see it through, we can't just abandon the project because we feel we haven't seen enough progress after a few months, or even after 18 months.

To be able to consistently play a specific style of play to a high level you need 14-18 players who are both well suited to play that style and of the right quality to play it at the level needed to compete at the top.

We might have 4-6 players currently that fit both those demands. If we get our recruitment right this summer then we might have 10-12 players capable, which means we will still be inconsistent next season. If we get the recruitment right the following summer then we might have 16-18 players that fit the demands for the start of the 2025/ 26 season.

Yet they will still need to bed in and find their feet so towards the end of that season you might start to see it coming together more consistently.

Like I said though that would require a near miracle in getting all of our recruitment right, 10-12 signings over two summers where every single one is a success and none of them flop or fail to live up to expectations.

That probably unrealistic, if 80% of your signings are a success then you will be the most successful side that summer. Which means it's more likely to take three summers to get the squad we need to play a specific style, consistently to the level needed to get us competing at the top end of the league.

Which means probably towards the back end of the 2026/ 27 season before we see us playing a good style of football, consistently to a high level.

Like I said it's going to be a long and hard road, and the fanbase needs to get on board with it. They need to learn to accept that, gain some resilience and patience. To support the club through thick and thin, and there will be a lot of thin over the next 2-3 years.

12 May 2024 10:02:02
Nou, the needs to strike that balance between keeping the he fans onside while also not listening (or taking to heart) a single thing they say.

Individuals can be extremely intelligent, groups of people are always stupid.

Listening to the crowd and is a sure fire way to failure.

There is loads of research into group dynamics. It's that mop mentality that kicks in in large groups, where the loudest and most aggressive voices rise to the top and the rest follow. It is in group situations where people often commit the worst acts. They do things in a group that they would never do on their own. That is why we get violence at football games and why decent, good people end up chanting about and mock the dead in the terraces. The vast majority of these people would never say those things when on their own.

Oddly we are seeing this group mentality even filter through online. Polarised opinions, and keyboard warriors. There is no middle ground, you have to pick between two extremes of opinion. If you try to stay neutral you get hounded out, if you are slightly to one side or the other you are put into the same category as the extremists of that view.

In terms of the current manager debate, it is practically impossible to back the manager and also accept or even discuss mistakes he has made without people trying to push you to one of he extremes.

If the club listens to or even tries to appease fans then the club is doomed. They need to hire the best people for the job and back them. The fact that most fans think they know more about football than the current manager or any football manager just proves the point.

If you'd listen to a manager tell you why they made a decision but then ignore that because John down the pub who once played Sunday league thinks he knows better so you'll sack the manager then you are letting the lunatics run the asylum.

The club needs to communicate better with fans 100%. They need to keep fans clued in as much as possible about the club so that the fan opinion is as informed as possible. That should stop a lot of the unhappiness and the misconceptions that fans have that drive that discontent.

Yet they should never listen to and act on what we say. As individuals for the most part we have common sense, intelligence and a decent grasp of our club. But as a group we are a pack of baboons.

12 May 2024 10:16:07
Fuser, I don't think it makes sense to hire an established manager. We are 2-3 years away from being in a position to actually challenge for major honours and none of the established managers will be willing to stick around that long without being able to truly challenge.

We need a project manager, someone willing to put the work in now without any expectation of a pay back for years.

We are better off with a younger, idealistic manager who wants to impart a style and build something for the long term. Because as a club we won't win anything of not until 2027 at the earliest I suspect, if not later. The manager needs to know that and the be the one to start building towards that. They will need to have personality and an unwavering strong mentality as they will have to deal with all sorts of negativity from the press and the online fanbase. They may even have to endure being booed in their own stadium. All without cracking or wavering from the plan. They will be called deluded and have their ability questioned time and again. They may even become a laughing stock, yet they will still need to stick to their beliefs and the plan.

Klopp was labelled "Flopp" during his first two seasons at Liverpool. Yet now he's regarded as one of the best managers in the world.

Arteta suffered the same, was made a laughing stock, mocked, questioned and derided. Yet he stuck to his guns and the club backed him and now he's considered one of the best managers in the league. Someone who can rival Pep through playing a similar brand/ style of football, on a smaller budget.

The next manager will suffer the same as EtH is suffering now, he'll probably have to suffer worse.

We need a young manager whose ideals match the clubs, and who has that gritty unwavering mentality.

I actually think EtH has that mentality, that ability to come out to the press and believe he is right and that he knows more than the journalists and fans about what is going on at the club and what is best for the club. That belief in himself and the project. Does his football philosophy match what the club wants who knows. If it does then he could be a success with the right structure. If not then it's best he and the club part ways and we find the right man.

12 May 2024 11:21:21
Shappy, pretty sure I said no experienced manager would want the job didn’t I? Also said a younger manager could be tempted if the higher ups will stick to their plan and not sack him if the results aren’t great initially.

12 May 2024 13:07:52
Fuser, it's not about whether they would want the job or not, I don't think that profile of manager makes any sense for us to hire at this stage.

12 May 2024 20:11:47
I am less concerned about the manager thn i am the structure above him being right. If the right people are running the show the will find the right man for their vision. I don't care of I haven't heard him, if we start moving towards an end vision I will be happy evening that means a step or two backward due to having to clear out dross and bed in youngsters who will eventually make it.