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16 Sep 2026 22:13:53
There's no excuse for that tonight!
Carrick is just not good enough, not a knee jerk reaction, it's patently obvious he's out of his depth!
Manchester United are not a big club anymore. Not anywhere near!
All the deluded people who think otherwise need to open theirs eyes.
Forget the leech owners who have no interest in anything but what they can take.
The most worrying thing is the complete lack of fight, passion, desire and determination in the players.
This is not a new thing, it's been like it for years now. I have no idea why, weak players, emotionally, mentally, physically???
The general malaise around the once great club is saddening to witness.
I have no idea where we go from here except down.
For those of us older supporters who remember Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson, even that wasn't this bad!
I'll forever support United, it's how it is, but not blindly and not accepting of any less than the passion I, and millions of others, have for this Club!
1.) 17 Sep 2026 09:39:13
Eric,
We got relegated, so I think it was probably worse than this mate, slight overreaction to say we aren't a big club anymore because we lost in the Carabao cup.
2.) 17 Sep 2026 11:22:01
We play the same formation every game, Brighton changed theirs after our 2nd goal n we stayed the same expecting to stay on top, we've no plan b from our 4231 formation.
3.) 17 Sep 2026 11:48:38
That's the crux of the matter right there. We're up against proper teams, who are well coached and drilled and tactically astute. You don't get that sense with Utd.
23 May 2025 09:03:03
Manchester United Football Club is dying a slow painful death.
Even the fattest cow cannot be milked continuously by so many and remain healthy.
And it's not even being allowed to go with any dignity.
23 Feb 2025 20:07:19
We've still got the Europa League to compete for, and have as good a chance as anyone.
I'd say RA needs it, or at least a final!
Not advocating getting rid, but something needs to happen, yes our players are below the level expected for the reputation, transfers and salaries. But instructions come from him, it needs to click at some point with all of them!
Summer isn't going to be good, I can see as many high earners moved on as possible - Rashford, Sancho, Casemiro, Antony.
Then we will be inviting offers for Ganacho, Mainoo and probably anyone else who gets any interest.
I'd expect replacements sourced from the younger players and maybe a few cut price replacements on lower wages.
Not necessarily a bad thing but in reality a true representation of just where this club is now. And unfortunately will remain for many years unless something drastic happens.
Neither the Glazers or Ratcliffe have actually put anything into the club at all. And now are systematically taking it apart.
There maybe was plenty of deadwood but when people on less a year than it costs to rent a box at old Trafford are losing their jobs- in the interest of balancing the books. There's something more than rotten about it all!
1.) 23 Feb 2025 20:56:46
Ratcliffe has put something into the club, more than Glazers have put in the whole time they have been here, it baffles me that people are trying to make our Sir Jim is as bad as the Glazers just because results aren’t good. He’s trying to sort out the mess we’ve been left in and time will tell if he does it but the abuse he’s getting is madness.
We got 1 player for Amorim so far and he already looks the most comfortable in the system, so a few more sensible signings and let’s see what he can get out of them. He’s trying to play chess with only pawns at the moment, let’s see what happens if he gets some more pieces.
2.) 23 Feb 2025 21:33:05
GDS2,
Good response. SJR is no angel, but steadying the ship will come at a price.
He has implemented a new structure, which needs time to bare fruit. It's mad how some fans expect instant success all the time.
All we can do it buckle up, sit back and ride it out.
3.) 23 Feb 2025 22:05:18
Quite right GDS2, Sir Jim has invested an additional 300 million us dollars, the final tranche recently went in, increasing his share holding to around 29%. This gives him 2 seats on the clubs board.
The 1.3 billion dollars originally invested, of course, went to the Glazers for their shares. This additional 300 mil has gone into the CLUB for further investment. I think some was used for the work carried out at Carrington last summer and some has cleared some debt.
It would seem there are sufficient reasons for concern without dealing in inaccuracies.
4.) 23 Feb 2025 22:06:52
I’d say you’re right, we need a Europa win to salvage anything but writing off the league is mad. £4M per place, 6th is worth £40M more than 16th. People are losing their jobs due to our finances.
5.) 24 Feb 2025 01:24:11
Quite wrong actually, clearly you know zero about how a business works!
Some seem to think SJR actually dived into his personal bank account….
Was never going to be a good fit, you can give it 1 year or 10 it just simply will not work, if you think it’s going to be anywhere near the level of SAF times!
6.) 24 Feb 2025 04:43:42
German,
As always telling people they are wrong with no back up, I’m fully aware of how a business works thank you. Sir Jim owns INEOS, obviously it’s not his personal bank account but if INEOS put that money in then it’s his money, not that complicated to understand.
Not sure anybody thinks it will be back at the level of SAF times, there is too much competition for that to be the case. You have absolutely no idea how we will be in 6 months never mind 10 years so weird to just be negative for the sake of it unless you’re trolling.
{Ed001's Note - it's not his money. It will be financed and be a loan. It will not be his money. You clearly do not understand how a business of that size works.}
7.) 24 Feb 2025 05:55:38
SJR is great because he is better than the glazers.
What a bar.
8.) 24 Feb 2025 08:36:44
Full depends on how that money is issued though Ed I think? Any investment via new share issues as far as I’m aware can’t be a loan (I could be wrong on that though) .
Even a debt for equity swap would come via new share issues as well, so unless they became majority shareholders then issues the club with a shareholder loan like Arsenal’s have I’m not sure Ineos can loan us money.
Like I say above, I could be wrong so do feel free to correct me if so.
{Ed001's Note - but the company loaning the money would have taken finance out to raise the funds. That is the point, Ratcliffe does not put any of his own billions at risk.}
9.) 24 Feb 2025 09:19:10
Are you offering better alternatives angel?
Sure tj are better owners to have. But none of them want to own us.
The glazers have a price nobody offered them what they want so far.
I think sjr and team are doing what they need to do. It's painful and hurtful but until the business is more efficient and running as a business should we can't compete.
Really tough calls have to be made.
Mistakes have been made and more will be made yet. But that's the same in any business going through what we have to.
10.) 24 Feb 2025 09:42:48
Ken, what are you on about?
So I can't say that now or what? That the bar is so low that we can look at SJR and say at least he's not as bad as them. I mean, the bar is on the floor, sorry, way below the floor.
How could I possibly offer an alternative, I'm a football fan, that's it, just like you and everyone else on here.
Just because you're happy to follow SJR and RA into war, doesn't mean we should also.
11.) 24 Feb 2025 10:15:24
Tumble even though it’s a business, no football club in the world in run like a conventional business, no other business as 100s of thousands supporters watching its every move, SJR trying to run it like a conventional business if that’s what he thinks he is doing, is going to be tough, SJR always been about penny pinching in every business, even his own personal wealth he would prefer to not have it in U. K. to save £££s which is totally his choice of course, but to compare a football club with running a normal business is a stretch too far.
It’s same with most sports, just being a good business man does not mean your any good at running a sports business, it two entirely opposites, the fundamentals may be the same, but you have to go about it in totally a different manner, for me, love them or hate them, the Glazers are far better business men than SJR is… do I want either of them owning United…Nope but it is what it is, but to say SJR got us heading in right direction is stretching reality too far!
12.) 24 Feb 2025 11:16:21
Angel you can say what you like. I've not suggested otherwise. So your not offering any alternative I understand that. You just want it to be different. ?.
13.) 24 Feb 2025 11:30:14
Is that in your experience of running a sports business German,
You realise it's a set of accounts he inherited from the 'better business men'
You realise if costs are not cut and losses seemed we will be deducted points.
The business needs to be on a sound footing 1st.
Costs cut everywhere and losses seemed. A cultural reset right throughout the business. No more hand outs cut the jobs for the boys mentality.
Lots of pain yet before we can start to move forward as you wish them to. That will happen (maybe not quite as you wish but much better) when the medicine has been taken.
1st things 1st and that's to absolve ourselves from the immediate short term financial danger.
Nothing happening that shouldn't be happening at this stage apart from it happening heavily publicised on the back pages and on tv.
I'm not sure what you do but if a company you ran or own is losing millions every year would you do all you can to get firstly industry compliant? Once you have that you can implement a growth strategy.
It's not nice right now but what's happening is very necessary and it's simply because it'sbeen like a can kicked down the road for years by the previous management and due to neglectful owners that have not been watching the back door and have a complete lack of understanding of how close the business ran and is still too close to not being industry compliant.
14.) 24 Feb 2025 12:18:35
I can't offer an alternative, haven't got the pockets unfortunately.
But for me, The 50+1 model is how it should be run.
SJR is a scumbag ken, but you'll head into battle with him, good man haha.
{Ed025's Note - Angel SJR is not interested in MUFC mate he is interested in making money, the land that comes with the ground and the site of any new stadium will be paramount to his agenda, he is a businessman not a football fan so for me you should all be very worried about his motives mate..
15.) 24 Feb 2025 13:16:06
SJR is slashimg jobs, cutting bonuses for lowly paid staff, whilst spending millions on recruiting and then sacking Ashworth, what a guy.
I'm not a fan of SJR but hopefully he won't be taking huge dividends each year. My main beef he seems as incompetent as the last lot.
16.) 24 Feb 2025 16:47:43
Ed, seen a fantastic analogy online just now regarding the staff being bloated.
"Staff may have been bloated but sacking staff to fix a budget shortfall is like a cocaine addict cutting back on milk and bread to save money. The obvious problem is staring you right in the face"
SJR is streamlining for his own pocket, not for the benefit of the club. He is an utter scumbag. I can't believe that people on here are saying that it's okay.
{Ed025's Note - im with you Angel, hes looking to line his own pockets mate 100%, the land that comes with the stadia will be worth Billions mate and thats his primary objective, he has no interest in the football side of things..
17.) 25 Feb 2025 05:54:26
How do you see the 50+1 model being applied angel. Please educate me on how that can be put into place at united?
Don't worry about your pocket angel you can buy the club without using any of your own hard earned cash you won't even have to dip into you communion money. ?.
29 Dec 2024 18:11:20
I'm not judging the manager yet. I genuinely hope he succeeds, as I hoped ETH would succeed.
Simply an observation, no doubt plenty will disagree with! But we've, once again got a manager from outside the top 5 leagues in Europe. Indeed outside the 6 if you include the championship, which Is an incredibly difficult league to compete in, let alone win!
It's almost like the leadership of the club change philosophy with every new incumbent, almost buying a window of easy time for everyone, including the very limited players we seem to have!
I'm not comparing our squad to Nottingham Forest in any way, but I've just watched their manager in an interview after todays match, in which they lost a major player in the warmup, saying they changed the system and the players fully understood what they needed to do!
If our so called top professional players cannot change how they run, where they run, which direction to pass, to actually pass . Then we really have some terrible players.
I imagine everyone here has worked in Jobs where the system has changed, experienced new managers, new systems, new methods, new vehicles whatever and just got on with it!
Just get on with it, the club is toxic from top to bottom.
I've had enough, cannot speak for everyone else, but not one more of my hard earned pennies will pass into their hands until the club has realised the fans are the heart and soul, not a means to an end!
Many will say "support in good and bad " I've supported many more years than most. Even in the 70s and 80s the hope was there.
Players need to play, management need to manage, the club needs to remember the spirit, the soul, the magic, the hope that built it into more than any other club in the world! And give us at least a hope of returning to that!
Instead of milking the history for profit, laughing at the fans, and killing the future in the process!
I'll forever support Manchester United, it's not a choice, it's a lifetime commitment. Unfortunately not for the owners!
1.) 29 Dec 2024 20:52:14
The owners are on trial now, not the manager. They need to back him. The went for an exciting up and coming manager who plays a distinctive style, they need to give him the players to play that style. Many players need to leave and a refresh of a failed squad finally put behind us.
We are paying top level wages for a bottom of the table performance from this squad. We must start in Jan by getting wide players who can fit this system. We cannot accept the FFP nonsense. The club need to figure a way to give amorin what he needs and to stay within those limits. Sell players if needed. Lengthen contracts. Get to work and let's start improving. Hopefully we have hit the bottom, but only if the management team start to make some good decisive decisions.
2.) 30 Dec 2024 01:16:18
FFP dictates how much the manager can spend. Trying to offload our overpaid underperforming players will be vv difficult.
3.) 30 Dec 2024 03:26:26
I don't care salford. They pushed for amorim mid season. They pushed to buy the club. They need to start sorting this out. Not enough sales I the summer, and many of those players have barely played.
I am not giving them a pass. A firm no to that. We need new players, they can be up and coming and not super stars, but we need to fill gaps in the first team, let alone on the bench.
We need change and they need to start delivering. I can deal with a mid table finish if we start to see major change taking shape. If they pick amorim they have to give him players for his system. Otherwise, may aswell have kept ruud or even EtH, we would have been better off.
4.) 30 Dec 2024 07:38:59
Oh you must Dodgy. The club is in serious debt and has one of the highest wage bill across Europe. There isn’t a lot of money. The coach needs to get better than what he is getting today (5 losses) .
5.) 30 Dec 2024 11:45:33
If only it was that easy to just get rid of players.
13 May 2024 17:28:49
Well, the stadium is collapsing, the teams collapsed, the manager is floundering, might as well just get rid of everything and everyone.
And start over in the northern league. Use the youth players and get a bit of pride back!
Can't really see a major change over the summer, seems everything about the club is rotten, except the supporters, still turning up in their thousands and basically being mugged off!
Obviously this is a bit of an overreaction but we are genuinely falling unchecked into oblivion, and it's truly a sad sight.
I like many others will always support the badge .
But it seems the apathy and complacency is way and beyond a few players but endemic on every level of our once great institution.
Sad times, hopefully it will be rectified no matter how slowly, even a slight glimmer will help.
Let's see if we can end with a trophy, only City to beat lol.
Some of this is a bit tongue in cheek, some borne of frustration, but mostly out of anger that it's been allowed to happen.
1.) 13 May 2024 18:32:26
Without our Glazer owners, our club would really stink
We wouldn't have a Martial
Or an official Chinese drink
We wouldn't have our Ten Hag
Or an enormous debt trap
It's not the Glazer’s fault that the stadium collapsed!
2.) 13 May 2024 19:47:06
Bit of guttering will sort that out no problem ?.
3.) 13 May 2024 20:47:14
If only Woodward were still here. He would be charging fans £30 to have their photo taken in front of the 'World famous waterfall'
4.) 13 May 2024 20:29:37
It needs renaming to the theatre of streams.
5.) 13 May 2024 21:38:33
Its not too late to support FC United of Manchester.
6.) 13 May 2024 22:56:48
I think anyone who left the stadium after the game yesterday will understood why the stadium was as wet as it was!
25 Jun 2025 20:57:20
Osimhen is apparently on 10m euros a year and is willing to join us for no pay rise .
24 Jul 2021 21:09:14
I fail to see progress.
No youth players have progressed
No definitive style or tactics
Lots of expensive signings not improved
No trophies
Maybe I’m missing something.
14 Sep 2026 18:43:57
You can only sell players, or indeed anything, if someone wants to buy them!
We have so much overpaid dross that we'll never sell any of them!
Who would you genuinely sign from United if you were in charge of any club in the Premier League?
14 Aug 2026 12:49:27
Osimhen!
09 Aug 2026 19:27:16
So, if your partner suddenly stops being so loving, flirts openly with others, then finds themselves getting an opportunity with the one they set their sights on, so wanting to leave you, only for the other party to decide that they aren't really right for them, would you and should you just welcome them back unconditionally, hoping to return to the previous status quo?
27 Jun 2026 16:09:39
The chance to really punish them has surely passed!
It's taken so long and they've won a few trophies since then. It's a bit of a joke.
Whatever happens now is irrelevant to those years and honours!
They might suffer a few years of less successful football without Pep, and could possibly end up like Chelsea.
But financial punishment will mean nothing to them, and a transfer ban for however long won't affect them.
They have a group of clubs around the world to gather players until such a time as it would end!
United need to just concentrate on returning to not just the best in Manchester, but the league, Europe.
I don't care what City get. Won't affect us in any way.
I hope we return and reach the heights and whatever any other club does is irrelevant!
29 May 2026 21:49:42
Born 1970
I've chosen captains who were true leaders.
In no particular order:
Buchan
Robson
Bruce
Cantona
Keane
To me, they all made other players better.