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15 Sep 2026 20:32:28
I did mention Joseph O'Cearuill's parents are a problem.
There's issues with the people who advise the young man.
These are people who changed their son's name, a father who gave a way his own family name to make someone more marketable. A man who let's another man run his son's life.
It might be hard but feel for the lad. I'm told by someone who works with him he's almost autistic in personality, has no friends or relationships with people his age.
If you want to be mad with anyone it's the club for making promises they can't deliver, breaking traditions (bending over) and his dad for being a greed driven man trying to live through his child.
Sad.
1.) 15 Sep 2026 23:06:05
This is a child we are talking about, who has never played for the club properly. It’s not a big deal. Let him and his entourage go and be a problem elsewhere.
The academy won’t fix the first team issues. Sadly, it’s the other way around. A successful team attracts better, younger players. We’re a basket case, and have been for years.
2.) 16 Sep 2026 18:11:07
? he's a kid, the issue for me is the damage is done to club's reputation for the concessions made to him already.
All I'm saying the kid deserves little flack it's parents and his agent, who used to be United youth director.
25 Aug 2026 19:13:07
Spoke to someone today connected to the club.
LB is the next focus
Hall is totally off.
Balde pushing for Utd
Utd don't want to deal with Barca, only interested in a dry loan.
Kadioglu is an option and interest is long term (as per Supa and Ed002) there is a feeling he hasn't done enough at Brighton.
Salinas is liked but wants Barca. Barcelona want to move on Balde.
Joaquin Seys is one to potentially watch.
Mateta is an option.
Zirkzee/Watkins swap an option. Saudi is a problem.
1.) 25 Aug 2026 22:00:16.
Sets feels like the deal for me from that list.
Interesting that there is no mention of Raum.
We absolutely need a striker, and we'd be delighted with a Watkins/Zirkzee swap.
2.) 25 Aug 2026 22:51:12
Had a great chat. Nothing there not out there already, to an extent.
He seems to think Kadioglu has legs. Zirkzee/Watkins swap is really wanted.
They’re not in the commercial side of things, so don’t know lots. Lovely bloke though.
We talk more about youth players.
They did say that there are concerns around conditioning. MC is very demanding, but allows specialist departments to work against a brief. It is those delivering who perhaps don’t have that elite experience and latest knowledge.
3.) 26 Aug 2026 06:10:59
Ferdi signing makes sense. We need someone who can slot in right away to compete with Shaw, not another project. It may be they see Shaw at centre back instead?
And, frankly, we already have an attack minded left sided defender in Dorgu already, so buying Balde clashes with that.
4.) 26 Aug 2026 09:21:27
Zirkzee/Watkins swap would be a great bit of business. Add a decent LB, and we have had a solid window.
5.) 26 Aug 2026 19:05:42
Lol. Solid business. 2 players from Villa that they don't want, and one from Chelsea that could not make the team and is only 22 years old. That's solid business. Yes, if you wanna finish mid table, how on earth have United standards slipped this low.
6.) 27 Aug 2026 13:44:37
Definitely want a player with legs.
7.) 27 Aug 2026 23:46:04
Well Watkins is going Saudi and balde wants Barca stay
27 Jul 2026 17:55:47
Posted this to another thread and updated: I'm working with someone professionally who also works with Utd. They mentioned a few bits that's ok to share:
Speaks highly of JJ. Unusual lad, but a nice lad. Very mature, but also can let his head drop. His family are very hands-on. It's crucial United keep them happy, to keep JJ. He will play this season. Promised.
Thwaites - good player, but not physically ready.
Devaney - top pro and player, very much in the mould of Fletcher Snr in attitude, really well thought of. One to watch. Fitzgerald was said to be similar.
Moorhouse - might have missed his moment, but seen as potentially better than the Fletcher twins. Could be a late bloomer or mid EPL player.
Obi - poor movement, flat-track bully at youth level, sent back to youth football as touch and ability not at the top level.
Gore - good player, probably missed his chance; injury wrecked early loans.
Main thing they're looking for physicality and off the ball.
He also mentioned they have been shocked by the reports from lads they've signed from City.
Utd do gym work, ball work, patterns and always have matches - lots of variety to build a complete player. They all learn at least 3 positions and play games in them.
Some of the ex City are blown away and loving it.
City is no matches, only play on match day. Everything else is systems and conditioning.
I was surprised but it's as they have the "best" players and don't focus on basics.
He also pointed out for all the ex City academy players there's not many who have done that well or look complete as a footballer. Also suggested Foden has never improved and Pep is considered a cheque book manager. He beats Nemcha though.
1.) 27 Jul 2026 19:13:22
Awesome, I love rumours like these. I don't think Obi will make it. He doesn't look great in the youth team. JJ is then one they think might be a generational talent. We shall see.
2.) 27 Jul 2026 20:12:53
Thanks utd road, great post.
3.) 27 Jul 2026 23:59:51
Thanks for the insight.
4.) 28 Jul 2026 10:25:01
If that's true. JJ will have to break away from his family at some point and get himself a top agent. Family will lead with their hearts, which isn't a bad thing, but it will eventually cause resentment in the player. The player will need to stand on his own feet at some point. That, to me, is a crucial part of a young player's development.
5.) 28 Jul 2026 10:33:25
You can't blame his parents for being protective over him at this stage though, the lad is 15 and people are saying he's a generational talent. He needs his feet keeping firmly on the ground.
6.) 28 Jul 2026 10:48:59
Exactly, the lad is 15. You try telling a 15 year old to do something, and they will do the opposite to prove a point. Keeping his feet on the ground is just as much United's job as the parents'. He seems mature for his age, which is a good thing. But is that due to the conditioning from his parents, or is he generally a good human being.
End of the day, he is a 15 year old lad. He needs to be allowed to be a 15 year old lad and make his own mistakes, and learn and grow from them.
That is part of life that people need to experience. We have a bad habit of overprotecting people, for better or worse.
Not to have his parents tell him how to do everything. I think the age of 13-18 is the most important part of a kid's life. In those 5 years, it tells what life that kid's gonna have as an adult.
7.) 28 Jul 2026 17:44:27
Bear in mind the name change, kid Messi videos etc. His parents are guiding him. Very hands-on.
It's good he has them in his corner.
It will be hard for United to meet every expectation, but they're doing everything they can.
I wouldn't judge his parents harshly. They have invested everything into the lad to give him one hell of an opportunity.
8.) 28 Jul 2026 21:04:05
If you were the parent of such a young boy, would you not be protective, knowing how clubs tend to look after their own interests first and foremost?
9.) 29 Jul 2026 07:19:26
As a parent, that child is everything to you, and I'm sure they will try to guide everything and be very protective, as he is their son and only 15.
He looks a fantastic young talent, and I am very excited to see where he goes.
10.) 29 Jul 2026 07:19:47
Great post, by the way, Utd Road. Keep those coming!
11.) 29 Jul 2026 17:24:13
Nice one, mate. ?
12.) 30 Jul 2026 10:12:07
I would be very surprised if JJ Gabriel doesn't go on to become a top player, how high he goes though will be down to his mentality, the ability of those around him to keep him grounded, and a little luck.
Having the ability to play in the EPL and being physically ready for the demands of playing in what is probably the most physically demanding league in Europe if not the world is another thing entirely.
His body is still growing, and that makes him more susceptible to injuries, which can both derail his development, as well as potentially risking his long term fitness. Lots of players who started playing regularly at a younger than average age (in top flight mens football) end up having injury issues from their mid-twenties onwards.
If you look at our squad we have Shaw and MdL who were both regulars at 17 years old, both struggling with fitness. Michael Owen and Rooney are others who started picking up injuries and saw a drop off in performances in their late 20's. Jack Wilshere was another, as was Francis Jeffers, Jack Rodwell and James Rodriguez.
JJ will need protection and guidance to ensure that his development is optimal to allow him to gain experience, grow as a player, and protect his body as it develops. As well as being shielded from the risks of fame and fortune while he's too immature to handle it. He will need a good group of people around him, family are great, but young lads have a tendency to rebel against their families during their teens and early 20's. That is a time where they tend to value the opinions of their friends more than that of their parents and older more experienced adults (especially those in positions of authority). Sir Alex was very good as pairing young players up with a first team player to act as a mentor, to be a confidant, a role model. He would make sure they shared hotel rooms on trips, have lockers next to eachother etc. Hopefully there is someone Carrick can pair JJ with who can be that mentor and role model in the first team. Someone to be a voice of reason when the risk of fame and fortune threatens to pull him off the path.
I expect he'll get some minutes during pre-season, and maybe even some in the first team this season (most likely in the cups, or maybe a few sub appearances towards the end of the season in the EPL). When he does get games expect the media hype to be crazy with hyperbole, which for a lad who hasn't even sat his GCSE's will be difficult to deal with.
13.) 30 Jul 2026 20:11:55
Ta Angel, I won't see them for a few weeks, but will ask about the new scholars.
Shappy, injury prevention, burnout, and physicality of men's football are things I'm told the club are trying to manage, but he wants the opportunity, knowing the risks.
I don't want to say too much on who told me, they're not a big shot. But he pretty much raised all your concerns fwiw.
05 Jul 2026 12:08:55
Amorim and AC Milan interested in Martinez for £45M.
I'd reluctantly sell. Great player but often injured and infrequently a liability.
1.) 05 Jul 2026 15:21:52
Imagine if he got injured for a prolonged period of time again and the club had turned down £45 million for him......
If this is true, that AC Milan are interested in him at this price, then I'd imagine the club may reluctantly sell him so that those funds can be reinvested.
It would earn the club profit as well, for a player that only has 1 year left on his contract.
2.) 05 Jul 2026 15:40:52
Imagine if he doesn't and plays like we know he can? We need him frankly this summer. Next year is maybe a different story.
3.) 05 Jul 2026 17:28:33
Def keep him. Can't understand why he is so undervalued by pple.
4.) 05 Jul 2026 20:23:14
I'm with you, Salford. We'd be selling him at his lowest price point. He's our best distributor by a distance. When he plays, we're a better side. He and De Ligt are our first choice centre backs. I don't think we can buy a starting level cb for 45M so it's a hard no for me.
5.) 05 Jul 2026 21:08:25
I love Martienz as a player, but he is unfortunately very injury prone.
6.) 05 Jul 2026 22:31:39
How anyone rates him as a centreback in the EPL is beyond me! I would snatch there hands off for 45miilion and then turn the phones off in case they want a refund
Be interested to know what EDs actually rate Martinez as a CB for the EPL?
{Ed001's Note - doesn't matter if he is any good, too many injuries now to make him worth keeping.}
7.) 05 Jul 2026 23:58:28
I'd keep him 100%. He would die for this club. You don't get that often. He is outstanding and a leader. When he plays, he dictates the tempo of the game, and, as we saw the other night, he can put it on a plate with his passing range. Not often you get a cb who can do that.
8.) 06 Jul 2026 09:30:18
The best ability is availability, and as much as I love him as a player, he is far too often on the sidelines.
9.) 06 Jul 2026 09:51:49
76 league games in 4 years is not great. I love him, but he misses over half the games. If there is a meaty offer on the table, we should take it, same for Mount.
10.) 06 Jul 2026 14:09:04
I love his character and attitude. But injured too often, I'd sell.
I think the story is nonsense, as 1st Ugarte, then Mount, and now Martinez have been linked with Amorim and Milan.
I think he is a really good player, but too small to play cb in EPL, imo.
He is batting above his weight, and that's probably what is driving the injuries.
11.) 06 Jul 2026 17:52:51
I sell him for 45 million. Heaven is the future in Martinez spot. I like Martinez but it's time to give Heaven regular games. Personally I'm looking to move Martinez and De Ligt on. Heaven and Yoro need to be our centre-backs with Maguire as backup. No point keeping Heaven or Yoro around if you keep playing Martinez and De Ligt.
12.) 06 Jul 2026 19:12:48
£45M in now would easily finance a replacement. Whoever came in would have the transfer fee accounted for over the contract term.
£45M, £65M on Lacroix. Decent business.
13.) 06 Jul 2026 21:13:39
Shane88, Heaven is a good player but can you not see how much better Martinez is in possession than any of our other CBs.
14.) 07 Jul 2026 01:17:30
Milan would have to be insane to spend £45m on a player with that injury history when he only has 1 year left on his contract.
15.) 07 Jul 2026 15:01:08
Personally, you stunning Heaven development. This season and next season are the most important for Heaven. He needs to establish himself. Keeping Martinez will hinder him. If I play then less than half of the fixtures this season, I'm asking to leave next summer.
16.) 08 Jul 2026 16:24:35
To be fair, Shane, you were never known for your patience. ?
Where is he going to move to? How many 19/20 yo cbs played more than half the season at cb for any club in EPL ever?
05 Apr 2026 14:25:20
Got an old school rumour!
My mate, beautiful young woman was at a party this week.
Rashford, Rodgers and Palmer - all there. And apparently with a little luck they could be playing together next season… A lot can change according to them.
1.) 05 Apr 2026 15:10:35
That can only happen if they are all playing at Chelsea next season. It would cost as much as £250 million to sign all 3. Even for United, it would cost around £200 million, and blowing that amount on 2 new forward players, after signing 3 last summer, would be monumentally daft.
Palmer would be the most expensive, and Chelsea could certainly afford Rashford and Palmer, especially if Enzo leaves.
They are also lacking in forward areas, primarily left wing, but also the number 10 role when Palmer plays on the right wing.
If Chelsea are keen on Rashford, they are welcome to have him for £50 million. It would be a shame to see Rogers move there though.
2.) 05 Apr 2026 16:52:36
That may be the case. I'm just delighted to get this level of old school rumour.
3.) 15 Apr 2026 08:58:11
Can see us moving for Rogers if there is a glimpse he is available. That being said, if we have set funds for transfers, a new No10 isn't the priority for this squad. A new Centre back, 2 new midfielders and at least one full back are crucial.
I'm more and more convinced each day Rashford is coming back to bolster our attacking options.
4.) 16 Apr 2026 20:06:09
Hypothetically, what if Bruno goes, Chelsea don't get UCL, and we sign Palmer and Rodgers?
Rashford doesn't sign for Barca and sees out his contract.
No, beyond the realms.
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27 Aug 2026 00:59:16
Sesko will more than likely be on the bench next game but he's bulked up over the summer and is match fit, due to fat loss cardio.
A good 4 kg lean gain. Expect a stronger version.
1.) 27 Aug 2026 12:13:20
He's got massive potential, and he did far better than many give him credit for last season.
He was only able to play around 50% of the league minutes last season, and he still managed 11 goals and 1 assist, to be our joint top scorer. That was his first season in a much tougher league.
Now he's bulked up, understands the league much better, and he looks far more like an EPL centre forward.
I think we might see a big season from him, not exactly a breakout season per se, but one that will put him in the conversation about the top strikers in the world.
2.) 27 Aug 2026 14:32:45
You're jumping the gun a bit there, Shappy. Firstly, why only 50% of EPL games did he play?
He has not played one pre season game, looked really unfit last week for the 45 mins, and has not exactly shown a striker's instinct at all so far. In fact, the games he did play last season, if you watch them closer, more often than not Cass or Bruno was forever giving him instructions.
He has a hell of a long way to go to become one of the top strikers in the world; he maybe, and only maybe, will get to the 2nd or 3rd tier of strikers in the world. But he needs more than bulking up to do that.
01 Aug 2026 16:00:09
Did anyone watch the match today? Good win tbf.
Mount played well in the double pivot, has to be said. Santos looks solid. Thwaites looked good when he came on. Mbuemo was sharp. Lacey, Loro, Maguire, Shaw all played well.
Heaven for me looked a bit inconsistent and error prone, but showed some good stuff too. JJ came on, looked physically, he did look like a child, but held his own and had some good touches.
30 Jul 2026 22:13:53
Michael Carrick 10th longest serving Head Coach or Manager in the EPL ?.
04 Jul 2026 14:57:11
I'm hoping we sign Tchoumeni.
I'd still think we need another.
What's the consensus of Mane at Wolves?
Can cover a number of positions, brought up in Rochdale.
Seems a talent.
11 Apr 2026 14:54:31
A bit of fun. Youth XI still playing.
GK Dean Henderson
RB Ethan Laird
CB Axel Tuanzebe
CB Micheal Keane
LB Álvaro Fernández Carreras
DM James Garner
CM Kobbie Mainoo
CM Angel Gomes
RW Mason Greenwood
CF Marcus Rashford
LW Alejandro Garnacho
Subs: Kovar, Mengi, Amass, Hanibal, Elanga, Collyer, Bernard, Iqbal. l, Obi? Heston/Johnstone.
Personality and injury issues aside. (That front three. ?)
Not the strongest but not bad.
The point I'm trying to make is; I think the club need to do better with youth players. You can easily see how adding a 8 or so non academy players would make this squad competitive. Eg. Bruno, Martinez, Yoro, Dalot, Sesko, Mbeumo, Cuhna, Amad.
Our youth players haven't always raised the ceiling they raised the floor. John O'Shea, Fletcher, Brown, Butt, P. Neville all raised the floor. Instead we keep spaffing cash on players overpriced depth. Ugarte over Garner?
We have a seriously talented group at U18 group and some 18s in U21. I'd really advocate promoting 2-3 youth for one spot or have a loan strategy create and then investing bigger in key areas.
1.) 11 Apr 2026 20:14:59
Absolutely, and these next few windows are the ones to do it because we need to fatten the squad out. Some will make it, others will not, but their profiles will be increased from exposure, and other parties will buy them for more than if we sold them from the reserves.
2.) 11 Apr 2026 23:38:50
I think we have a few with good potential to pad out the squad as you say. Sometimes an opening appears and they flourish, often they don't, but find a home elsewhere.
With more games to play, they will get games if they are good enough.
3.) 12 Apr 2026 11:18:57
United are way off the other top clubs in this department from what I've seen. These clubs scout thousands of players of all ages, from primary school age, and Lacey and the Fletcher brothers are all we can come up with? Obi has disappeared off the face of the earth, and it looks like we're all waiting for the moment JJ gets a senior call up.
4.) 12 Apr 2026 13:15:46
I missed McTominay too.
The academy is doing well.
If we're looking at who could step up and job share from the youth next season.
Harrison as 3rd choice goalkeeper.
Vitek as 2nd choice goalkeeper.
Kukonki as 5th CB.
Jim Thwaites CM/DM.
T Fletcher CM/DM.
J Fletcher CM/AM.
Lacey RW 3rd choice.
JJ Gabriel LW 3rd choice.
Obi CF 3rd choice.
Noah Ajay 3rd or 4th RW/LW.
Ibragimovic - AM/RW/LW.
Jace Fitzgerald - CM.
Kone looked OK, but hasn't fared well on loan.
There's a French kid out there too, but a similar story.
Other players, like Kamason, could kick on too.
5.) 12 Apr 2026 16:01:29
Great post, but how many of that team would get in the United team?
Greenwood perhaps (assuming his personal stiff hadn't happened), Rashford at his peak (which he really isn't anymore), McTominay possibly, certainly in the squad.
We have always led the way in developing talent that goes on to have a good career, transitioning them into our own team has been the issue of late.
16 Sep 2026 18:09:12
There's lots of issues behind the scenes heard loads I've not shared
Joseph O'Gabriel - promised minutes in the summer friendlies, EPL and League Cup. I need to check but I'm not sure United have delivered on all this.
Jack Fletcher - complete arse. Rude, entitled and see as average and behind other players. Only there due to family.
Tyler Fletcher- nice lad apparently but again there more on name than ability. Ie Devanny is seen as far better.
Same concerns shared by players and family regarding Rooney and Carrick kids.
Nkoto twins at least 2 years older than stated, not even brothers. One is Islamic one is Christian. Club/agents stopping x rays so it's not confirmed, against human rights apparently.
There's a young RB playing before better players perceived to be about virtue signalling over ability. The young lad is average for his age but an Eritrean migrant.
Obi - awful player and arrogant and difficult boy
Club working the backside off to keep Lacey's family happy and at a distances.
Whole strength and conditioning team are seen as poor, one club people with little experience outside uk or Utd, majority promoted from with in, an arrogant bunch.
The more I learn about the club from the inside the more I think we should play in a circus tent.
16 Sep 2026 18:11:07
? he's a kid, the issue for me is the damage is done to club's reputation for the concessions made to him already.
All I'm saying the kid deserves little flack it's parents and his agent, who used to be United youth director.
27 Aug 2026 16:15:43
Watkins/Mateta.
25 Aug 2026 22:58:37
Looks a player.
While he's German in Belgium, there is an excellent crop of Belgian youngsters and talent coming through their league.
De Cata. Mokiko, Godfs, Sabbe, Seys, Ordonez, Smets, de Vlieger, Lammens, Penders, Tzollis.
25 Aug 2026 22:51:12
Had a great chat. Nothing there not out there already, to an extent.
He seems to think Kadioglu has legs. Zirkzee/Watkins swap is really wanted.
They’re not in the commercial side of things, so don’t know lots. Lovely bloke though.
We talk more about youth players.
They did say that there are concerns around conditioning. MC is very demanding, but allows specialist departments to work against a brief. It is those delivering who perhaps don’t have that elite experience and latest knowledge.
16 Sep 2026 18:22:22
Pep.
433
Needs more than two.
Hakimi and Mendes.
—
I'm not sure he is/was. Sticking for a reset and to handover a better squad to an elite manager ie Enrique.
4231 quick passing, rotations, overloads on the wing, 1 dimensional no plan b. Slow to react/trusting in players.
No - the club fails any manager of any standing.
16 Sep 2026 18:14:06
Crewe ?.
27 Aug 2026 16:20:00
Ugly Mirror:
Fernandez is good but not amazing.
Anderson was average at the World Cup.
Bouaddi could easily flop.
I'd expect Utd to be able to afford a world class level player each transfer window after 28. We are rebuilding, and it is what it is.
Citeh could be in the Championship next year.
27 Aug 2026 00:56:02
Billy Big Balls, unlikeable and not ready.
Only got the games as it was contractual.
Proved he isn't ready and still isn't.
Used his advanced physicality to dominate smaller players, struggling to adapt.
He will be off on loan or full sale.
26 Aug 2026 18:42:08
Good balanced overview, I agree with it all.
Putting the ugly mirror to this squad, you have
GK: an inexperienced goalkeeper and average backup,
RB: 2x mediocre RBs,
CB: 3x injury and/or error prone defenders, 2x unproven CBs,
LB: 1x injury prone LB,
CM: 3x new signings, 1x injured and mid, 1x good EPL level player,
AM: 1x World Class, 1x Crock, 1x Kid,
LW: 1x good option who is more of a 10, 1x Belfast Bebe, 1x erratic high potential,
RW: 1x Top Class, 1x Irratic, good but often ineffectual with high potential but time to deliver,
CF: 1x Good potential world class; 1x Berbatov minus goals.
We use the ugly mirror in business strategy. Using it here, you can see ideally we need a high standard back up GK, 2x LB, 2x RB, 2x CB, 1x LW, 1x AM, 1x CF.
There’s still tons of work to do on moving on and out players.
Sales of Zirkzee, Ugarte (Jan/summer 27) and contract expiries will help, but we have 2 years to wait.
27: Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Martinez, Heaton.
28: Rashford, Mount, Dalot, Maz, Darlow.