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26 Sep 2025 15:57:27
The global talent search continues.
Cristian Orozco, a very highly rated 17 year old defensive midfielder who plays for Fortaleza, in Colombia has signed a pre contract agreement and will become a United player when he turns 18, next July. A deal similar to that of Diego Leon who signed last summer.
He recently captained his country to the final at the South American U17 Championships, but were beaten by Brazil.
This drive for worldwide talent is being led by Jason Wilcox and Head of Recruitment Christopher Vivell who discovers the talent.
Even if all these signings don't become first team regulars it is hoped that a pool of talent will be created and sold to help finance new signings.
A very solid business strategy, if successful!
1.) 27 Sep 2025 09:46:14
Over the last decade we have spent over a billion on players most of which haven't even come close to being value for money. Huge fees, huge wages and underwhelming performances.
Many of these players we have ended up stuck with after they've flopped as no other clubs are willing to match their wages.
I'm not saying we shouldn't spend big on some signings, but we need a more balanced approach.
I really like the idea of scouting the world for the best young talent at academy level and looking to bring them into the club.
The signings of Sekou Kone, Ayyden Heaven, Chido Obi, Diego Leon, and Enzo Kana-Biyik have all happened under the new ownership. If even one of them becomes a regular first team player then that represents the best investment in players our club have made in over a decade. With the club having spent only a few million in total to bring them ALL into the club. While their low wages and high potential means even the ones who ultimately don't make it, we will still be able to sell them for a profit.
We have actually seen this model used at our club before the INEOS take over. We signed young players like Hannibal, Kambwala, Alvaro Fernandez, Harry Amass, Toby Collyer, the Fletcher twins, and Garnacho from other academies both in England and abroad, with us selling Hannibal, Kambwala, Fernandez, and Garnacho all for a profit. If Amass and Collyer don't make it to the level we need, then no doubt they will also sell for far more than we paid to bring them in.
With the tighter financial regulations in football this has to be seen as a sensible way to run the club both from a financial perspective and a footballing one.
It allows us to bring in some of the best young talents from around the world, players who maybe initially flit between the under 21's and the first team while they settle, they may even go out on a loan or two (look at the new role for Jonny Evans), or provide squad depth for the first team. Quality depth, who aren't being paid a fortune, and who are happier to be a rotation option.
If they take their chances then they become first team regulars, if not then after a 2-3 years we sell them at a profit and reinvest that money into the first team squad.
If every year we spend 3-5m on a handful of young academy players, but we sell 3-5 ex-academy players for 20-50m then we are making huge profits. Occasionally we will get a first team regular out of it, or maybe a player like Garnacho who has talent but isn't the right fit for us who we can sell for a huge fee on their own.
Over the past decade our best value for money transfers haven't been brought into the club through the front door with the big fanfare, but quietly slipped in through the backdoor into the academy before flourishing into the first team.
It's not the only approach we should look to do, but definitely an important one that we can and should be exploiting far more.
2.) 27 Sep 2025 10:19:42
I was confused when INEOS were banging on about this, this was United’s transfer policy for years under Fergie.
We all remember the famous remarks he made about no value in the market and then some random 20year old would turn up from some unheard of country and not last long, or be shipped off to Antwerp. Occasionally he would get one big spend like a Berbatov, van Perise or a Cole.
It wasn’t until Fergie retired that the Glazers started throwing money at the problem, obviously not their money, and it hasn’t really created a stable side and long term success.
3.) 27 Sep 2025 18:08:53
Global search for a decent manager would be a good start….
Then get the club all teams to play same way under that managers direction.
What we got now is just bordering on insanity, if this kid is special talent, he leaves, that’s 100%.
09 Aug 2025 12:06:41
The club has officially announced the signing of Benjamin Sesko, 5 year deal with a year's option.
Obviously, an element of inexperience exists, but over the past two seasons Sesko has scored the most goals of any player under the age of 23 in Europe’s top five leagues.
Wish him all the best luck in his future with us, hope for his and our sakes it is a massively successful future.
07 Aug 2025 17:35:04
Being reported that RB Leipzig have this afternoon accepted our offer for Sesko, which is approx £73.7m.
They have also given permission for him to fly over to England such that his medical may be carried out.
Should be completed pretty quickly now, the club want to introduce him to the crowd at Saturday's friendly against Fiorentina.
Could we really get Baleba as well? Think if someone said a few day's back we would be going for him I would of suggested an urgent appointment with their doctor.
Please, please make it happen.
1.) 07 Aug 2025 18:58:08
Considering how long Mbeumo took, this has been surprisingly fast, and now we are talking to Brighton about Baleba. Seems we have some urgency to get all the signings in before the beginning of the season, then spend the rest of the transfer window on sales maybe. Refreshing anyway.
2.) 07 Aug 2025 22:22:36
Newcastle made us act fast here.
3.) 08 Aug 2025 06:55:01
Are we waiting for the Barcoders to make an offer before we move? ?.
4.) 08 Aug 2025 09:04:29
My boredom was brief.
17 Jul 2025 14:53:58
According to David Ornstein we have today made a new bid for Mbuemo.
Apparently it is £65m fixed with £5m in extras. If true and they decline we must walk away. If accepted he is on the plane tomorrow.
Reckon today this whole saga ends.
1.) 17 Jul 2025 15:09:56
Fingers crossed. Wonder if Newcastle interest in Wissa has forced an offer although sure it was coming.
2.) 17 Jul 2025 15:26:05
I imagine there is some give from Brentford on payment terms that help us out.
We want to improve on negotiations and behind the scenes things will be but unfortunately clubs know our situation and PL clubs are not necessarily desperate for sales.
Hopefully we will see a few more through the door next couple of weeks.
3.) 17 Jul 2025 15:42:57
Frustrating for fans but if he’s on the plane for the USA tour then it’s job done and onto next couple of transfers hopefully. A quick double would be nice with Mbuemo and maybe the Lyon CM we’ve been linked with recently.
4.) 17 Jul 2025 15:46:57
Would not be completely surprised if it gave a little 'nudge' spenno, but if it brings resolution I am all for it.
We are not going to sign 5 or 6 new players but another 2 of good quality can make a big difference.
Don't subscribe to the linear theory that all players will just continue in the same way they were playing last season, some are much better than they performed, and some of the younger ones have got more experience, add in some decent newcomers and there is good reason to look forward to the new season.
I can't wait!
5.) 17 Jul 2025 16:44:13
Sancho agreement was the trigger.
6.) 17 Jul 2025 16:44:33
Good player, but the whole negotiation reminds me of Maguire and Leicester. At least this time we didn’t wait all summer.
But £70M for a guy with a year left is definitely us being BrENT Over.
I’m also thinking that might be us at the top of the field.
7.) 17 Jul 2025 16:57:26
Utd Road, I know you want to create this narrative but Brentford had the option to extend by a year which gave them leverage. Until we know they exact break down of the fee and payment structure £70M in today’s figures for a player who was involved in 30 G/ A last season is probably fair.
8.) 17 Jul 2025 17:34:33
Don't forget that Brentford have the option of the 1 year extension. Technically, he has 2 years left.
9.) 17 Jul 2025 17:37:45
£70m for one of the best signings we could have made. I think he’s undervalued!
10.) 17 Jul 2025 18:00:34
Hopefully this deal gets done now.
As for Newcastle's interest in Wissa, personally given the lack of options available he should be a player that we should be considering now. Only has a year left on his deal, valued between 30-40m, scored 19 goals last season and links very well with Mbeumo.
11.) 17 Jul 2025 18:10:30
He would be a great option at a fair price, and of course has a telepathic understanding with Mbeumo. But of course they're not going to give us both on a platter.
12.) 17 Jul 2025 18:42:25
I genuinely believe if Salah hadn’t have signed his extension, Liverpool would be looking at Mbuemo as his replacement.
Only problem if we can get him signed is that we will need Cameroon to not qualify for the ACON so we don’t lose him, but we need Cameroon to qualify so Onana pops off for a few weeks ?.
13.) 17 Jul 2025 22:27:01
Wissa, Vlahaovic, Watkins. All good options for No9. Oh and did I mention Rashford ?.
14.) 17 Jul 2025 23:42:46
Ports a factual narrative that you don’t like as it doesn’t fit your narrative.
We are paying exactly what Brentford asked for 3-4 weeks ago, the same value as Spurs allegedly offered.
BM is a good player but to suggest our negotiating and commercial expertise has improved is false.
I know little of BMs contract but had previously understood in general the player had to agree to any extension.
Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea would have secured a better price or paid the price when asked.
15.) 18 Jul 2025 00:40:19
Utd Road we have gotten a really good player at a fair price. Given our position that we could add Cunha and Mbeumo is great work. Our negotiating team clearly did an excellent job convincing those players that we're the best place for them.
Your assertion about those other teams is completely unprovable. Liverpool are paying 120M for Wirtz, Chelsea could pay over 80M for Mudryk and City paid 100M for Grealish.
We have two players good enough to play for any side in the league at fair value, and at reported contracts of c.150k/ w that are also fair value. If you don't see improvement then you stay in your bubble of negativity.
16.) 18 Jul 2025 05:50:12
Don, Cunha or Mbuemo would not get in regularly any of the potential top 4, whilst both very good players they are not great players, let’s not kid ourselves and take off the tints.
You moan about people being negative, but be realistic, what we seen in recent years to be optimistic about.
Even RA who I like a lot and want him badly to succeed, he not showed anything in past 6 months that actually transforms to us doing exceptionally well this coming season, if we are being realistic.
We need hell of a lot more yet, because even if we score more goals we certainly will let a lot more in.
17.) 18 Jul 2025 07:18:06
It’s not factual Utd Road, it’s an opinion.
18.) 18 Jul 2025 08:54:25
Just amazed at the responses treating this as a done deal.
19.) 18 Jul 2025 09:24:48
German, our metrics beyond goals were trending in the right direction last year. We simply didn't take our chances. Defensively, other than the GK, we have good players. I think there is far too much negativity about the standard of the squad. My viewpoint is that last year we'd half a CL level side playing with half a championship level side. And our attack was certainly the main issue.
20.) 18 Jul 2025 12:48:00
It is AM2.
15 Jul 2025 14:04:15
Well, clearly Luke Shaw has being doing some serious preparation for the season, based on pictures from training. Must of been considerable effort put in.
As we all know, the overriding issue is going to be his fitness. He was 30 a couple of day's ago so still relatively young. If he maintains the fitness then he can still contribute, even as back up for various positions.
We shall see, not exactly consumed by optimism!
1.) 15 Jul 2025 14:33:18
From what I have been reading, Amorim and his coaches have given very specific individual training plans to the players during their time off. I think a significant change going into next season will be our fitness levels.
2.) 15 Jul 2025 14:33:29
Sounds like you are to me.
3.) 15 Jul 2025 22:16:14
He's still our best LWB when fit, imo. Unpopular opinion, I know.
{Ed025's Note - has he ever been fit Noucamp?..
4.) 15 Jul 2025 22:35:48
Let's hope he has an injury free season and can be offloaded at the end of it.
5.) 15 Jul 2025 23:50:32
We've hoped for an injury free season since 2014 when he joined. The unfortunate reality is he has missed more games than he has played. He's not someone to be relied on and should have been moved on a long time ago like some of the others.
6.) 16 Jul 2025 10:18:56
He’s had a good 18 months in his entire united career
Any other top club would have got rid of him by now.
Amazes me why he is still at the club.
7.) 16 Jul 2025 12:53:55
Agree Kurtis, that has been exactly the problem, hence, let's hope this year is his year to be injury free. Not expecting a huge role from him, and if the club is smart, which they are not, they will manage him to keep him exposed sufficiently to maintain his stock and avoid injury. Then sell.
Jeez he could even get to Xmas and sell then!
8.) 16 Jul 2025 16:06:38
Guys, I'm not arguing he should still be here. My point is, rather worryingly, he is still the best we have in that position. I fully expect him to be our regular LWB.
Providing he doesn't get injured during pre-season of course ?.
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24 Oct 2025 23:41:56
So, tomorrow will be the 300th appearance for Man Utd by Bruno Fernandes since he was signed in Jan 2020.
In those, approaching 6 years, he has only missed 17 games, and only 3 of those because of injury or illness. That can be described as nothing short of astonishing.
I think apart from a degree of luck needed on the injury front, it show's a mental strength and resilience and a commitment to the team to achieve those kind of numbers.
I know his attitude, on certain occasions, has been questioned but along with the fact he turned down an obscene amount of money on offer from Saudi last summer and of course the number of goals scored and assists he has achieved in a struggling side, I think makes him deserving of huge credit and appreciation from United supporters (obviously excluding Notimesoon)
1.) 25 Oct 2025 04:14:42
I think with bruno 2 things will happen.
Either he will continue to his usual risky passer, or maybe being as part of a midfield 2 he might became a but more sensible with his passing.
So many world class players change their game after they turn 30, so I'll be curious to see how Bruno changes.
2.) 25 Oct 2025 04:52:00
Anybody who doubts Bruno’s commitment to our cause is a fool. he's been our best player since day one of signing and remains so now.
(Although I think Cunha and Mbeumo will be challenging for my favourite player tag)
3.) 25 Oct 2025 05:37:34
I have to agree with you IWOTB. Good post. I confess I was a nay satmyer that felt we should take the money and reinvest. I also felt he just didn't fot what we re trying to do.
Don't get me wrong even in the past couple of games he's failed to track his man and also lost the ball in key central areas but luck balances out snd the chances were saved or hit the post and de ligt against Sunderland saved a certain goal.
As Ken and Dlib have said small margins for or against still have a massive impact and we got away with them and won't always. But on balance he is an 80 20, getting more right than wrong.
I am glad I was wrong to want him gone. He's put in shifts and toned down the histrionics too. As he learns the movement of cunha mbuemo and sesko I actually think he could go up maybe half a level still worh the quality around him.
But whatever happens he's been a great servant and a crucial backstop preventing us fall any further before the right people starting bringing in the right people.
I really hope the take over doesn't happen. Laat thing anyone needs is more change.
4.) 25 Oct 2025 09:58:13
When Bruno first came in he gave us some much needed creativity. Sure his Hollywood passes could be 50:50, but before that we were struggling to create anything. For the first 18months we were a one man team.
You can see Amorim is trying to change the dynamic, Mbeumo and Cunha are starting to take on the mantle of this club. How long has Bruno left, I don’t think we will see Giggs longevity but he will probably be here a while longer, what does this mean for player like Mainoo coming through.
5.) 25 Oct 2025 10:07:33
Bruno has been a good player, not a great, but only if you give him freedom off the front players. Not a captain and not a centre mid, far too indisciplined. I believe we should have pushed him and taken the Saudi money in summer, reinvested in Baleba. As a club we are just not as ruthless as ones that have been successful recently. SAF was, he knew when to sell, although didn’t agree on Stam, and was ruthless.
Appreciate Brunos stats and loyalty but he isn’t a good fit in the team where he is now, they must have thought that when buying the three forward players in summer.
Sorry if that doesn’t conform to the idol worship.
6.) 25 Oct 2025 13:06:02
Football is a team game. i'm not one bit interested in individual stats of amy player if the team is not performing as a whole.
We have never finished higher than 3rd and never finished lower ever during his time with us.
Not many wc players never win a league title.
Very good servant always tries hard and nearly always available.
He has been a good player but not been able to bring the team forward as a whole to date.
Lots I like about him and there are things I don't like.
But 1 thing is for sure his commitment can't be questioned imo.
21 Oct 2025 16:25:11
We all remember a previous Anfield hero
for us, Diego Forlan and his 2 goals in 2002.
He was rushed to hospital on Saturday with 3 broken ribs and a punctured lung following an accident while playing in a veterans match in Uruguay.
Seemingly there was much concern as to his wellbeing as he lay motionless on the pitch. Thankfully he is now reported to be much improved.
I wish him well, 3 broken ribs is reportedly a very painful injury to endure.
Just remembering the absolute howler made by Dudek in that 2002 game, it made my day!
20 Oct 2025 16:54:53
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16 Oct 2025 22:23:20
The Women's team are continuing their fabulous start to the season.
Tonight was second ever game in Champions League proper, away to Atletico Madrid, Despite having a player sent off in the first half we won the game 1-0.
Whilst playing some good attacking football this season they have been excellent defensively, only 4 goals conceded in 11games played in total. Ultimately it's your defence that wins the trophies.
Seemingly, Tullis-Joyce (goalkeeper) was excellent again tonight. Biggest compliment you can give her, is that Mary Earps has not really been missed.
Let's hope they can keep this level of performance going.
Go Girl's.
1.) 17 Oct 2025 19:12:59
Ridiculous red card after VAR. Tackling leg on the ground studs down, trailing leg with foot pulled back. The knee caught the attacker. Really hardly a yellow never mind a red. Clearly influenced by the injury more than the tackle. Would never have been given in the men's game, unless the tackler was called Casemiro.
Tullis-Joyce is an excellent keeper. In attack they do tend to squander a few very good chances but the team has certainly not gone backwards despite the club getting a lot of criticism for its trades, and letting (assuming they had a choice) top players leave.
2.) 18 Oct 2025 15:56:09
newname, yes quite right, the red card was very, very harsh. The ref only gave a yellow and that was more than enough.
As for scoring, in WSL we are second highest scorers with 16 from 6 games, only behind City who have 17. Our attacking play has been much improved this season and that has been, in part, through the outstanding form of Jess Park. She was signed last summer as part of the deal with City when Grace Clinton signed for them.
Losing Clinton was disappointing but she only had 12 months left on her contract and it looked likely she would not renew so rather than potentially losing her for free (as we did with Russo and Earps) the sensible decision was taken to sell. As it turned out we received more for her than we paid for Park and given the form of Park many are saying we very much got the best of the deal.
You reference letting top players leave, assume you are referring to Russo and Earps, but that was very much not the case. Considerable effort was put into trying to get them to sign new deals, with significant salaries on offer, particularly to Russo.
They however had decided to leave, as was their right, but as you say the team has not gone backwards, indeed I think we have moved on and improved a fair amount.
3.) 18 Oct 2025 19:59:20
A manager who has had a tough time and im delighted for him. He has done a great job. Steady progress from a low base fighting against clubs that have had a better base.
Sounds familiar. Patience has been the key and they are beginning to get their rewards.
15 Oct 2025 21:12:03
Well, so sad to see. Mr. Manchester United has passed away!
The day after the Champions League final of 1999 a mega fan (somewhat hungover) from Bulgaria by the name of Zdravkov Levidzhov decided to change his name by deed poll to Manchester United.
Initially the authorities refused to allow this to happen and so began a 15 year battle to achieve his desired wish.
In 2014 he eventually got his wish, he officially became Manchester Zdravkov Levidzhov-United.
In 2011 he had a tattoo of the club badge made on the top of his head and in 2014, with the help of the Sun newspaper a private tour to the Theatre of Dreams was arranged. He was so overcome when he walked into the player's changing room he burst into tears.
His home in Bulgaria was very much covered in club memorabilia. He was quite the local celebrity with many visitors.
Whilst we hear the stories of 'tourist supporters' and the effect they have on ticket prices and seat availability we need to remember that many of these fan's are massively committed to the club. I doubt Mr United spent much of his time on fan websites constantly complaining, moaning and criticising every aspect of the club.
RIP Mr. United, 62 is to young to go, if you can try for a kick about with Georgie, Bobby and Denis.
1.) 16 Oct 2025 11:21:39
Nice piece.
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26 Sep 2025 15:01:38
Couple of days ago it was reported that FdJ has agreed a new contract with Barce until 2029 on reduced wages.
Given his known desire to stay at Camp Nou, on a scale of nought to a thousand on the credibility scale I would struggle to give this rumour a score of more than 2.
07 Aug 2025 19:46:34
Quite simple in their eyes, they are selling Jackson and buying Garnacho, everyone thinks what they sell is worth more than it really is and what they buy worth less than is being asked.
Ultimately you can ask what you want for anything, doesn't mean you will get it.
The only true arbiter of value is the marketplace, let's see what happens.
30 Jul 2025 19:14:30
It's rumoured that Sesko has a clause in his contract whereby his transfer fee is a reduced if an 'elite' named club (we are one of the named) approach.
Seemingly a bid of approx £70m would be the amount needed.
Vivell has flown back from the tour and of course his previous association with Leipzig should give him an inside knowledge.
It seems Vivell is pushing very hard for Sesko over Watkins.
We shall see. Clearly Watkins would be expected to have a greater impact short term, but Sesko has a much, much higher potential ceiling. Of course Cunha and Mbeumo are both proven at Premier League level so playing with those two much reduces the risk associated with a young player in a new league.
I personally hope we go for Sesko, anyway, who's to say he will struggle initially? he might hit the ground running and there is no absolute guarantee Watkins will deliver.
19 Jul 2025 10:05:35
He is not going to be sold, a loan to a Championship team is the intention.
They want him playing regularly, he needs this to happen as physicality is his issue, not ability.
He is still highly regarded at the club. Indeed one of the reasons Alvaro Carreras was allowed to leave was that the club felt that Amass had a higher potential ability ceiling. Also, it needs to be remembered that Alvaro requested a transfer and the club would not want to keep a youngster who expressed a desire to leave.
18 Jul 2025 20:40:32
He's going on loan I believe.
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24 Oct 2025 15:44:53
I'll take that happily.
23 Oct 2025 17:24:20
Well fair play, if anyone knows about delusion it has to be you Notimesoon or German, or Romanian or Strangeways or Trafford or whomever you have dragged out of your dressing up box today.
Jimbobred may have had a brief flirtation with delusion, but it is with you 24 hours a day, 7 day's a week. Sadly your entire existence is predicated on fantasy and fiction.
If you feel you want more appreciation for what you say, then it's easy. Just say ''goodbye''
Well done Jimbobred, that kind of an action truly exemplifies the meaning of being a proper supporter. Blind faith rules!
18 Oct 2025 15:56:09
newname, yes quite right, the red card was very, very harsh. The ref only gave a yellow and that was more than enough.
As for scoring, in WSL we are second highest scorers with 16 from 6 games, only behind City who have 17. Our attacking play has been much improved this season and that has been, in part, through the outstanding form of Jess Park. She was signed last summer as part of the deal with City when Grace Clinton signed for them.
Losing Clinton was disappointing but she only had 12 months left on her contract and it looked likely she would not renew so rather than potentially losing her for free (as we did with Russo and Earps) the sensible decision was taken to sell. As it turned out we received more for her than we paid for Park and given the form of Park many are saying we very much got the best of the deal.
You reference letting top players leave, assume you are referring to Russo and Earps, but that was very much not the case. Considerable effort was put into trying to get them to sign new deals, with significant salaries on offer, particularly to Russo.
They however had decided to leave, as was their right, but as you say the team has not gone backwards, indeed I think we have moved on and improved a fair amount.
15 Oct 2025 22:38:06
In fairness to Singh and his original post, he was quite right saying it was Scholes who said those things. As it turns out Schmeichel did also say things about Rasmus, which were carried by the BBC today.
15 Oct 2025 16:20:51
Yes, Sesko looked good against Sunderland, especially first half, but why? ask yourself the question. It was because he got a lot of service. Also it was crystal clear Lammens had been instructed to go long and not just play short all the time and given that Ben is 6'5''that play's to one of his strengths.
Let's not forget in his first few games he was getting criticism from all the so called 'experts' and being compared to Rasmus. Then give him plenty of the ball and hey he looked good, strange eh!
More than any other player on the pitch your striker is dependent upon his teammates and without that support they will fail.
I have no doubt if Rasmus was playing for a team that produced opportunities he will score a decent amount of goals.
Singh, you refer to Zirkzee, I think he was injured during a part of the summer, hindering a potential sale, and there is much talk that he will leave in Jan.