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26 Sep 2026 23:26:03
28.57%
That's 'Carrick at the Wheel's or as I will start to abbreviate CATW, win percentage this season.
Yes, forget last season everyone, as it doesn't matter a tosh for what is happening this season.
Win against Spurs and we jump to 37.5%! Lose, and we drop to 25%.
Why does this matter?
It is the stick that was used to beat down Amorim and that ultimately got him sacked. So let's repeat the process to ensure this season isn't totally written off.
Coincidentally, Amorim's win percentage after 7 games in his final season was 28.57%.
1.) 26 Sep 2026 23:45:38
28.57% ?
You've somehow managed to turn seven games of football into a mathematical case for sacking a manager, while simultaneously pretending context doesn't matter.
"Forget last season, it doesn't matter" followed immediately by comparing this season to Amorim's record from last season. Outstanding.
And the really brilliant bit is using a percentage after seven games as though you've uncovered some damning statistical trend rather than a microscopic sample size that changes dramatically with one result.
Lose to Spurs and it's 25%. Beat them and it's 37.5%. So apparently the manager's competence can fluctuate by 12.5 percentage points depending on one football match. Groundbreaking analysis.
If you're going to use CATW as your abbreviation, I think for you, Can't Analyse The Whole picture or, Calculating A Tiny Window is better.
You've taken seven games, removed all context, cherry-picked a comparison, and then congratulated yourself for finding a pattern.
That's not analysis, that's just a calculator having an argument.
Ed Woodward would be proud of these numbers ?
At this rate you'll be putting #GlazersOut in your bio while simultaneously doing their recruitment for them!
"Don't worry lads, I've found the manager's win percentage after seven games. Get the P45 ready.".
2.) 27 Sep 2026 00:39:50
JBR and in the first match this year he had 0% win rate. I understand you make all these because the Anti-Amorim kept saying in every match how bad the precedence of our winning was. But let it go mate.
3.) 27 Sep 2026 03:47:46
Yes Ports..the same way the anti Amorim gang couldn't see the bigger picture..
The irony of your counter arguments is the groundbreaking stuff here, champ.
I'm of course taking the Michael out of the anti-amorim brigade here Heaven, they will take their stupid arguments to their grave.
When that klan accept they f'ked up by pressing for his removal, I'll stop the same campaign for the removal of Carrick, but only if he wins against Spurs.
There can't be a United fan alive that accepts he continues if we lose to Spurs. Even the most delusional..
4.) 27 Sep 2026 11:20:21
JBR, what was Amorim's win percentage in his first season?
5.) 27 Sep 2026 08:36:37
The irony is you accusing others of not seeing the "bigger picture" while reducing an entire managerial debate to "he must win the next game or he goes." That isn't the bigger picture, that's a football "fan" having a tantrum.
You're so Pro Glazer you've even got Glazer mentality. Sack the bloke, move on, repeat the cycle, and pretend that's a long-term football strategy.
6.) 27 Sep 2026 11:58:12
So you are doing the same thing with Carrick that you complain others did with Amorim lol, it doesn't make sense.
Amorims win rate was below part bordering on awful. If Carricks win rate gets that bad this season, he will also be sacked, its how it works at the top level of football.
7.) 27 Sep 2026 13:34:56
Ports, ? on some awesome points.
That's not analysis, that's just a calculator having an argument
That isn't the bigger picture, that's a football "fan" having a tantrum.
JBR, I am happy to bebate with you but you are over-emotional about this. Our start has been awful and Carrick need to fix it, if he doesn't I expect he will be another lamb tothe slaughter and we will rinse and repeat. But it doesn't change the root causes that still need to be addressed.
8.) 27 Sep 2026 19:12:40
Gents I am simply repeating what the anti Amorim Klan did all last season until he got sacked.
Not one of you accepted it when people like myself tried to calm you and suggest there was a bigger picture at play with Amorim.
It was draining to try and debate this with you then, but now I'm just going to have fun with this until Carrick is gone. That isn't pro glazer. That is me simply repeating what the majority of the people commenting did last season with Amorim.
I actually want Spurs to beat us now.
9.) 27 Sep 2026 21:03:36
It is genuinely remarkable watching the intellectual gymnastics unfold here.
Ports accuses me of having a "Glazer mentality" and relying on a "microscopic sample size", while others claim I'm making no sense by holding Carrick to this standard. The collective amnesia here is staggering.
Let's talk about the real irony:
1. The Sudden Discovery of "Patience" and "Context"
When Ruben Amorim was trying to implement a complete tactical overhaul and build a long-term structural identity, where was this nuanced lecturing about "sample sizes", "the bigger picture", and "fluctuating percentages"? It didn't exist. Week after week, the anti-Amorim brigade flooded this board armed with microscopic weekly win percentages, dissecting every point dropped and demanding his head without granting him a shred of patience.
Now, suddenly, holding a manager accountable to the exact same cold, hard numbers is deemed "a calculator having an argument". You weaponised early-season percentages to hound Amorim out the door; you don't now get to appeal to patience just because your favoured safe option is staring at a 28.57% win rate. I am simply holding up the mirror to the exact precedent you set.
2. The Incompetence of Recruitment Left Us Here
This entire mess exists because of upper management's classic dilly-dallying. While serious European clubs move with conviction, our board dragged their heels, procrastinated, and dithered throughout the recruitment process last year. What happened? Top-tier, progressive managerial candidates were snapped up by competent clubs, leaving us backed into a corner with virtually no elite options left on the table.
Michael Carrick wasn't appointed because he was the visionary architect of an elite modern project; he was appointed because management boxed themselves in and settled for an underwhelming, familiar default.
3. Who the Real "Glazerites" Actually Are
Accusing me of "doing the recruitment for the Glazers" is classic projection.
A Glazerite isn't someone holding a manager to elite standards. A Glazerite is someone who:
Complacently accepts managerial compromises born out of boardroom dithering.
Normalises mediocrity because the face in the dugout is an affable ex-player.
Preaches endless, blind patience for unproven internal appointments after actively sabotaging high-calibre managers trying to impose elite structural demands.
You helped create the conditions that binned Amorim, swallowed the boardroom's botched managerial search without question, and are now defending a 28.57% win rate under the guise of "calmness". That isn't backing the club—that is being completely complicit in the Glazer-era standard of accepting whatever scrap the hierarchy hands you.
If holding Carrick to the exact standard you demanded of Amorim makes you uncomfortable, don't blame the mirror. Blame your own double standards.
Peace out.
10.) 27 Sep 2026 21:03:51
"I actually want Spurs to beat us now" line is a real giveaway to what sort of fan you are. You're not interested in the bigger picture, you're desperate for a result that proves your internet argument right. Supporting United is secondary to winning a debate with people on a forum.
Congratulations: you've gone from "look at the bigger picture" to "I hope United lose so I can say I told you so."
That's not the moral high ground, mate. That's just being a professional clown with a scoreboard obsession. ?.
11.) 27 Sep 2026 21:09:44
You want United to lose!
Jog on champ.
12.) 27 Sep 2026 21:48:05
I knew that would get you Keefy ?.
13.) 27 Sep 2026 22:28:18
Had some help on that post JBR? Sentences aren't as constructed as your previous ones ?.
14.) 27 Sep 2026 22:50:13
I don't engage with hypocrisy Ports. You're top of the pile of Glazerites. That overview is you and your Klan down to a tee.
It will hurt for you to read it because it is the truth.
Digest it, look in the mirror, come back to me and tell me what you see.
I know what I see.
15.) 27 Sep 2026 23:43:59
Huh? Use ChatGPT again JBR, At least that post was constructed to be understood ?.
16.) 28 Sep 2026 06:50:19
People using stats for the Amorim argument did so after he'd been in charge for at least a season.
They also didn't cherry pick a 7 game window which you've conveniently done to mask the overall much better win percentage.
How you think the win percentage of a Man United manager (or any top 6 club) isn't a yard stick to rate them is beyond senseless.
Your "eyes" argument is basically just "trust me bro". The fact of the matter is, he wasn't winning enough games after an 18 month period in charge to justify continuing the experiment or risk ploughing another few hundred mil of players in for a system only he seems to operate.
17.) 28 Sep 2026 07:00:27
Carrick was sacked by a lower division club for not being good enough for them.
Carrick has no other relevant experience other than the sack
Carrick is displaying exactly what fans of the lower division club said he would.
Carrick is only in place because he once played for us during a successful period.
Carrick is not a United level manager.
I don't want Spurs to win, I always want United to win, however, if Spurs do win, are we in a relegation battle already?
Stats mean little but Carrick is not the man and the sooner the club and some fans see that the better.
18.) 28 Sep 2026 09:24:24
I don't think anyone's saying Carrick is "the" man for the job, I'm certainly on the fence as I was with Amorim.
But we cannot keep throwing inept managers at the job without getting a grip of the total playing group across all age groups, including recruitment. We as a group call for managers heads but it will surely be the same for anyone that comes in
I do not know the answer so am standing in the shadows rather than voicing an incorrect opinion and enjoying some of the more vociferous chats!
19.) 28 Sep 2026 10:23:42
Well put Redman.
For the record, I clearly do not want us to lose to Spurs, but winning would only mask over the dross that we have at present.
20.) 28 Sep 2026 09:58:15
Trueredman, here's the thing you are missing. If Amorim hadn't got himself sacked, then they would have continued with the 'experiment' and we would have more likely have seen the removal of Wilcox from his role.
There was a lot of heat on Amorim from the people who kept muttering the win percentage and were unable to see the bigger picture.
The clearout of players (Sancho, garnacho, Rashford etc).
The playing style having an end goal, not this constant drivel served up by Carrick and his coaches
Fitness levels we have not seen for a while
Etc etc etc.
This is the whole point people are missing.
We now have a reversal of all the good things Amorim brought to the club, all because of the Glazerites and their statistics Klan.
21.) 29 Sep 2026 06:01:43
Getting rid of some bad apples and having the players fit are a pretty low bar for a manager aren't they?
Fact remains he wasn't winning anywhere near enough games for a Man United manager.
It's totally fair that you're not convinced by Carrick, but claiming Amorim was the one is so delusional and you can't even back it up with anything.
Attacking people for using his win rate is ridiculous, of course you assess performance on that. Esp someone who had been in charge as long as Amorim had.
22.) 29 Sep 2026 10:20:35
But he wasn't backed Trueredman. he wanted Baleba in the window he had his outburst, we wouldn't/couldn't get him and we buy him a few months later. Make that make sense.
Back to the win rate debacle. One, I am not attacking anyone and two, that is what I am assessing Carrick on. His win rate is awful.
On top of that
He has ruined the fitness of the squad built up by Amorim
He has removed any form of playing identity from the squad
He has unsuccessfully reintroduced one of the most disruptive players we have had across the last decade
I have given multiple reasons why Amorim was heading towards a success.
It is a pity the Glazerites got their way and he imploded and we are where we are.
CATW.
Provide just one reason why Carrick should stay on. Just one.
21 Sep 2026 03:49:22
Where's all the players that were pro sacking Amorim and getting some new manager in???
There was one that kept repeating the same statistics..
I hope you are happy with yourselves..
Here's a thought, after we have binned off this current worthless excuse, and we hopefully install someone who knows what they are doing, can you all exercise a degree of patience and just let them sift through the crap that is the man United hierarchy and group of players. Let them have the time to create their own identity, finally flushing the club of over a decade of really poor decisions.
I know this won't happen, but for the love of god, please stop advocating for mediocrity.
1.) 21 Sep 2026 06:35:43
The irony of this post is outstanding.
First of all, Amorim sacked himself through his results but ultimately his comments to the press.
Amorim won 15 out of 47 prem games in his time (32% win rate).
Carrick has a win rate of 68% and only has 2 less wins than Amorim in 19 prem league games.
Carrick isn't the answer, you think Amorim deserved patience, but Carrick doesn't? It's an embarrassing fantasy.
How is Amorim getting on at Milan currently? He's a man wedded to his system that doesn't appear to work anywhere except Sporting and wants to rip up squads and be given years to implement success.
I saw someone suggest via AI that Carrick benefited last season from what Amorim had done, that is complete conjecture backed up with zero evidence.
Amorim was a disaster, Carrick is heading in that direction too but not being afforded the patience you're asking from others.
2.) 21 Sep 2026 09:11:12
Carrick is well out of his depth he should never have been given the job. didn't they tell ole no to being interim bec he was more inclined to want the job if the team performed well? And they came out "we are doing a proper search of manager" we won't make the same mistakes of hiring an interim based of the results he gets playing 1 game a week
Results might not have been good under Amorim but the standards of running and not walking were there to see, he got rid of bad eggs which carrick has allowed back to walk straight back into the team
Didn't need to take a lot to get results last season we played one game a week sat back deep in 2 banks of 4 and 2 and countered
Struggled against low blocks but we had individual brilliance that scrapped wins
The football was crap then
The football now is even worse, we are worse than when Amorim was manager and the sooner they get rid of carrick the better because he doesn't have a clue,
His starting 11 and subs are poor, ten hag and espically Amorim got blasted on here and in the media for it,
Where's all the media bias for carrick, if this was Amorim the headlines would be all over, and they would be calling for his head.
But I guess he wasn't an ex player and team mate of theirs and because he's not English so carrick can do no wrong
Now all of a sudden it's the players. Funny how it works that.
The board need to take blame also any supposedly big club who thinks building a team in stages each season is going to work needs there heads checking
They have thought "most teams have new managers, new players, are in transition, we can scrape another top 5 and don't need to improve the team.
Ridiculous to only get 3 players in.
And while carrick and those b tech coaches are here it's only going to get worse.
Luckily we don't have to sit through anymore of that crap for 3 weeks.
3.) 21 Sep 2026 10:15:00
Trueredman, I have eyes and saw something with Amorim that has been void from this squad for a decade.
He needs patience and backing, we don't have either, so was never going to work.
Carrick needs patience backing and some coaching skills, none of which are going to happen.
4.) 21 Sep 2026 10:13:24
Ah, there's that stat again. At least one of you reared your ugly heads to fight the cause again.
5.) 21 Sep 2026 10:48:14
Good and fair posts, JBR. I'm sick of the lazy dross being served up on the pitch, and I'm sick of how the club is owned and run. A club that I've supported for 60+ years. I'm sick of the whole damned lot of it!
6.) 21 Sep 2026 10:50:25
It's always good to have eyes JBR.
7.) 21 Sep 2026 11:09:04
We are not fit, it shows, yesterday's game was of two poor teams producing a display of mistake after mistake.
We do have some decent players but we don't run, we don't compete, we have no intensity and you can see it a mile off.
Teilemans I really thought he would be sooooo much better than I have seen, he's been very poor.
Santos, I don't know, not seen enough of him competitively, to have an opinion as yet.
No one wanting a cut price Rashford is hurting us, as we desperately needed an established striker. Personally I'd play Dorgu before him but I'm just a fan. I think most managers go for experience, especially when the going gets tough.
20 Sep 2026 18:23:27
Carrick maintaining his 1pt per game output.
His substitutions were mind boggling.
Carrick at the wheel!
1.) 20 Sep 2026 18:36:26
I'd have liked to have seen Lacey, but what else would you have done?
2.) 20 Sep 2026 19:08:23
Switch Rashford or Mbuemo upfront in first half.
Cunha receiving ball in wide positions so he can run at people
More bodies getting into the box and attacking the ball properly.
More urgency and effort from players.
Bringing an extra midfielder into the middle, sacrificing either rashford or Mbuemo.
Bring on lacy, he is a live wire and can change a game. Bring on Dorgu earlier for Shaw who is pedestrian at left back - could keep Shaw at LCB in place of Martinez if that is preferred.
3.) 20 Sep 2026 19:10:09
I don't know, but after looking tepid in the first half, going behind in the second, and looking completely benefit of attacking threat, I might not have waited until the 77th minute to do something.
4.) 20 Sep 2026 19:20:26
I'd have chucked Baleba in to allow the other mods to get higher and mix the formation up a bit.
Without a proper striker (who'd have thought we needed one.) they seem to not know who to pass that final ball to.
Tough bench to look at for inspiration though.
5.) 20 Sep 2026 20:54:22
Here's what I would have done differently, I'll ignore the starting lineup concerns I've raised before, and make only suggestions from the game.
I'd of hooked Tielemans for Baleba to free him up more. Of the three central mids, including Bruno, Mainoo didn't do too much wrong. Tielemans is so slow! I'd especially of done this the moment we went 1-0. Converting to the 3 at the back when attacking, which we should be doing at 1-0 down against bottom of the table. Baleba acts as the third CB in essence, but only when required.
At the same time, I'd have hooked Dalot and Shaw for Maz and Dorgu. No explanation required
Then, Lacey for Mbeumo, who again needs to get amongst the goals.
I'd also have given Yoro minutes and hooked Maguire, who every game concerns me.
6.) 20 Sep 2026 23:30:06
Mainoo had a poor game and was rightfully subbed. I don't think anyone thought bringing on Zirkzee as the first sub was going to work well.
7.) 21 Sep 2026 00:39:30
Mainoo had a bad game, but it wasn't as bad as Tielemans or Bruno.. that's the point.
16 Sep 2026 21:55:56
Carrick at the wheel!! ?.
1.) 16 Sep 2026 22:16:46
The dark clouds are gathering quickly this year getting booed off at OT in September is not a good look for anyone at the club. Carrick already on borrowed time it seems because Wilcox and those above will want to apportion blame elsewhere and give us Angry fans a patsie.
14 Sep 2026 12:56:35
I have our fullback pairing of Dalot and Shaw sat at either 14th or 15th from the 20 teams this year.
I have our centre back pairing of Maguire and Martinez a touch higher in 12th or 13th.
How have we managed to get to this point without seriously addressing the problem areas?
1.) 14 Sep 2026 17:55:55
de Ligt + Martinez is a top 5 or 6 pairing, but unfortunately we never have them. It's painful to see Maguire and Dalot lining up. I think Shaw is good enough. Others don't. But right back, to my mind, is our weakest position.
2.) 14 Sep 2026 19:06:22
de Ligt and Martinez are a top 5 or 6 pairing. Even if that were true, which I strongly disagree with, is that what we are supposed to be happy with nowadays? No doubt we will finish 5th or 6th, but blimey, how the mighty have fallen.
For the EPL, foremost you have to have pace & power; neither of those two possess both.
Then a brain and experience, and a good injury record; that’s all debatable.
I have no idea what Carrick is trying to do with what he is assembling. If we are a counter-attacking team, how on earth did we buy Tielemans and Santos and the slowest back line we already had? Even Cunha is slow, but that’s how we seem to approach every game.
3.) 14 Sep 2026 21:11:56
I'm repeating what I said a few weeks ago and got shot down...
When Baleba is fit, the best way for us to salvage this season is to revert to a 343 formation, of sorts.
Amad at RB.
2 CB, and my preference is Yoro and Heaven.
Dorgu at LB.
Baleba shielding them, and dropping into CB when we attack either flank. If Dorgu goes, York covers that space towards LB. Same for Heaven to RB, Baleba drops.
Play Mainoo and Bruno, or Mainoo and Tielemans.
Then have the front 3. For me, it is Mbeumo, Sesko, Rashford.
Cunha off the bench.
Lacey off the bench.
I would actually consider giving Lacey a start to give Mbeumo a kick up the behind, too.
Some will say that formation doesn't work. I will disagree.
What doesn't work is whatever Carrick is feeding this mob, and it has to change.
4.) 15 Sep 2026 02:31:31
So it's not a 343, you're suggesting a 253? I'm confused about what you are doing with Baleba.
5.) 15 Sep 2026 05:57:54
I would be seriously concerned with that back line, 2 cb, so young and inexperienced, always making mistakes, Dorgu, who can't defend to save his life, that makes Dalot the best and most experienced defender... Are you really convinced of that? Then we have to hope Baleba is Makaleley in the making and running on Duracells to cover what he would need to do.
Teams would walk through that midfield.
Be entertaining though, and Lammens would get good work out.
6.) 15 Sep 2026 08:43:21
It is 451 when defending and 343 when attacking. Baleba is in the DM role when defending and the CB role when attacking. It is pretty simple.
There is no mention of Dalot. Not sure where that comes from.
30 Sep 2026 13:23:36
Both of those I like DSG.
I think the ship has sailed for Amass and never rated him to be fair.
Would like to something. Of Leon and overy.
30 Sep 2026 13:22:21
I hope to god that is fake news.
22 Sep 2026 22:41:34
Bang on redseven. MC rode the Amorim wave all the way to the bank and the hierarchy fell for it again.
Said hierarchy needs to look at Wilcox and Berrada. They have sold the plan of title challengers next season, or is the season after. Either way, we are closer to relegation form than title winning form, with a squad so far out of shape it isn't funny.
The club is void of standards. It is a global embarrassment.
21 Sep 2026 05:55:37
It doesn't matter who we get, if they don't have final say over players being targeted, players being sold and players being selected, it is a poisoned chalice.
16 Aug 2026 00:45:56
What about Truffert, surely he is up there for consideration if Hall is deemed 'overpriced'.
29 Sep 2026 21:17:13
I don't think expulsion and a swift return is the outcome here.
As damaging as it might be to the EPL short term, a sustained period of their inability to reenter the EPL is required.
Is that a continued expulsion for a period of time (not sure that will stand up), or is a repeated points deduction required each season for 'x' number of seasons? Again not sure how sustainable that is, but it seems a fair outcome as it will serve as a constant reminder to everyone that if you systematically try to circumvent the rules (irrespective of your take of them), you will be punished accordingly.
I totally get the argument of the EPL being weaker without city in the league, so was every sporting league/circuit/etc when a cheating scandal arises.
The EPL will recover, it might just take a bit of time, time that is better served without one cheating party present.
29 Sep 2026 21:11:36
Enough for it to be an excuse for Carrick ?.
29 Sep 2026 10:20:35
But he wasn't backed Trueredman. he wanted Baleba in the window he had his outburst, we wouldn't/couldn't get him and we buy him a few months later. Make that make sense.
Back to the win rate debacle. One, I am not attacking anyone and two, that is what I am assessing Carrick on. His win rate is awful.
On top of that
He has ruined the fitness of the squad built up by Amorim
He has removed any form of playing identity from the squad
He has unsuccessfully reintroduced one of the most disruptive players we have had across the last decade
I have given multiple reasons why Amorim was heading towards a success.
It is a pity the Glazerites got their way and he imploded and we are where we are.
CATW.
Provide just one reason why Carrick should stay on. Just one.
28 Sep 2026 09:58:15
Trueredman, here's the thing you are missing. If Amorim hadn't got himself sacked, then they would have continued with the 'experiment' and we would have more likely have seen the removal of Wilcox from his role.
There was a lot of heat on Amorim from the people who kept muttering the win percentage and were unable to see the bigger picture.
The clearout of players (Sancho, garnacho, Rashford etc).
The playing style having an end goal, not this constant drivel served up by Carrick and his coaches
Fitness levels we have not seen for a while
Etc etc etc.
This is the whole point people are missing.
We now have a reversal of all the good things Amorim brought to the club, all because of the Glazerites and their statistics Klan.
28 Sep 2026 10:23:42
Well put Redman.
For the record, I clearly do not want us to lose to Spurs, but winning would only mask over the dross that we have at present.