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28 Jan 2020 05:28:00
I really do hope we do not sign slimani. Is that how far we have fallen, being linked to a player who isn't good enough for leicester.

cdp82

1.) 28 Jan 2020 07:57:50
We can do things in the transfer market other can only clubs dream off.


2.) 28 Jan 2020 08:42:13
@UTD Road "We can do things in the transfer market that others have nightmares for".


3.) 28 Jan 2020 11:07:39
press now reporting that we failed with a late bid for augustin whos gone to leeds from leipzig.


4.) 28 Jan 2020 11:21:32
It's also being reported we are now signing Sander Berge which we clearly aren't.

One of the only random names I've seen us linked with who I wouldn't mind all that much.


 

 

 

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28 Dec 2020 11:45:56
I do hope old gets some backing in January. I believe the position we are in we should go and get a centre back we are desperate for. Then see where we end up in this strange season and who knows.

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1.) 28 Dec 2020 12:32:22
It's a tough one. The problem with January transfers is that teams don't want to lose their best players halfway through a season so tend to only sell for wildly inflated fees. Secondly, it can often take players a little while to settle when moving mid-season, especially if they are changing leagues/ countries.

Vidic and Evra are two of our best every January transfers, yet they took until the following season to really bed in and start performing at the level we needed them to.

I'm of the view that the only players you should ever sign are genuine long term targets. If they are available in January then great, if not then wait until the summer.

Signing the right player in January could boost the team to success in the second half of the season. However, signing the wrong player will be expensive and detrimental to both our short term and long term goals.

While Bruno gave us a boost last season, Sanchez distributed the team and derailed both Rashford's and Martial's seasons that year.

It's a big gamble, which is why I feel if a long term target like Bruno is available then great. If however you are trying to be opportunistic like the Sanchez signing then you're best off leaving well alone.


2.) 28 Dec 2020 12:32:29
I think other than Diallo and possibly Caicedo we won’t sign anybody in January, with the way the world is at the moment the club will be looking to get things back to normal and do business in the summer. Unless a player becomes available we desperately want now I just can’t see it, I’m definitely more intrigued by the matches we have in Jan than the window but I know that’s not the right thing on here.


3.) 28 Dec 2020 12:54:35
I reckon we might see some more younger players arrive who aren't necessarily going to slot straight into the first team but aren't too far away. Players in the mould of Pellestri, Diallo, Caicedo.


4.) 28 Dec 2020 13:07:36
GDS, While both Diallo and Caicedo look highly talented and players I will be happy to see sign. I have concerns that they half fill positions we need, but without fully giving us the player in that position we need right now.

We have Matic, Fred and McTominay who play as defensive minded midfielders. If we sign Caicedo then we will have four players for potentially one position. Yet in the immediate term Matic looks like his legs have gone and can only play once a week at most. Fred and McTominay have clear deficiencies in their game which won't be going away any time soon. While Caicedo is probably a few years away from nailing down the position. It leaves us with no one who is arguably good enough for a title challenging team for at least the next three years. What we really need is someone good enough right now. If Matic was 5 years younger then Caicedo makes perfect sense.

Same issue with Diallo. Him along with Pellistri, Greenwood and James gives us 4 players for the RW, yet all four are players with potential rather than ability to make the difference every week right now. Again your looking at 3-4 years before any of them have stepped up to the level needed with any sort of consistency.

Ideally we need players for those positions who are somewhere between 23-26 years old and either just hitting or will soon hit their peak.

The problem with signing these young highly talented players is they bloat the squad without dramatically improving it in the short term.

If we sign Caicedo for example will we really be looking for another midfielder any time soon? I don't think so. While Pogba and maybe even Matic might leave that still leaves McTominay, Fred, DvdB, Bruno, Caicedo, Garner and Levitt who'll be looking to get regular game time over the next couple of seasons.


5.) 28 Dec 2020 14:08:26
It will be more a window of players leaving, most likely on loan, as clubs near the bottom start to panic and make loan signings to change their fortunes. Lingard to a team with European aspirations perhaps, or Williams, Rojo or Jones to the likes of Newcastle / Sheff Utd perhaps. God help them.


6.) 29 Dec 2020 08:31:59
Jones to WBA, there is a rumour for you.


 

 

20 Feb 2020 06:05:32
still disappointed that we missed out on haaland. He would been the perfect player to play in the middle of a front three with the players we have.

cdp82

1.) 20 Feb 2020 07:03:59
He's world class.
But do we really want another raiola client?


2.) 20 Feb 2020 07:06:09
Seems like a monsterous player.
Very tall yet has devastating pace and good first touch.

Most importantly, he is ambitious and wants to score all the time.


3.) 20 Feb 2020 08:15:38
He would have cost a lot more than what Dortmund paid for him.

ED002 mentioned around circa £80 million. For a player who is young and relatively inexperienced, it was a big ask for him to go to the EPL.

Also, you would to raise the question, would he develop the right way here?

Look at Dortmund, they are very good at developing players.

Hopefully we can get back to a high level of football and attract not just the top names but the right names to play for the club.

That aside he does look fantastic.


4.) 20 Feb 2020 09:11:07
I think Solskjaer is still keeping an eye on him and congratulating him whenever he scores, so you never know what happens.


5.) 20 Feb 2020 09:23:46
Can someone care to elaborate why Haaland would have cost us 80mil? Sorry of i missed any post regarding that earlier.


6.) 20 Feb 2020 09:28:18
Becks that's probably just his agents cut, the super agent.


7.) 20 Feb 2020 10:24:50
Haaland has a clause in his contact that allowed him to join a German club for a set amount. That is why Leipzig and Dortmund were the two teams that seemed most likely to get him. For any side outside of Germany the fee Salzburg were looking for was around 80m. So as we aren't a German club it would cost us 80m, while for Dortmund it was around 20m.

As well as Haaland is playing it would be hard to currently justify spending 80m on him. In a couple of years the idea of paying 80m might look like a good deal. Or he could just be in a purple patch, struggle in his second season in Germany and 80m would then seem like a gamble.

Personally I think he will be a very good player. That said we need to stop these posts every time he scores. We missed out on Bruno in the summer, yet we didn't see these posts every time he scored or played well.

The fact that we in theory could sign Werner for around the 50-60m mark in the summer highlights how over priced Haaland was in January.


8.) 20 Feb 2020 12:16:34
You can't tell posters not to post about Haaland Just because you don't think he is good enough or you thought he was quite similar to our players.

Especially when i see you post repeated things on here.

Haaland is going to be special and knows how to score goals.


9.) 20 Feb 2020 13:04:13
Singh, I'm not saying either. I clearly say I think Haaland will be a very good player, while I made no reference to our players.

My point was that considering Haaland is 19 years old and if he keeps going as he is could score between 300-400 career goals it's going to get boring really quickly if someone comes on here every time he does for the next 10-12 years.

He was a player we had an interest in, either Haaland decided he didn't want to join us, or our club decided they didn't want to spend what it would have cost to sign him. Either way the result is the same, we were interested and he didn't sign.

He is now Dortmunds player and we should probably stop staring at him all doey eyed like a love sick school girl.

How exactly does it affect our club how many goals he scores or for who? We are linked with 100's of players every year, of which we probably have a serious interests in 20-30 of them, of which we might sign 3 or 4 of them.

We could probably fill a hour long program every week of highlights from players we held an interest in but didn't sign.

We held an interest in Mbappe before he signed for PSG, in Neymar before he joined Barcelona, in Suarez before he joined Liverpool, in Lewandowski before he joined Bayern.

Haaland's a clear talent who will likely go on to have a good career, but that won't be the end of Manchester United. In fact, I strongly suspect Manchester United will be around long after Haaland has retired, and I suspect Manchester United will win more than Haaland does as well.


10.) 20 Feb 2020 14:56:55
Salzburg were asking for €80m, but given the choose of selling to Dortmund for the €20m clause or selling to another club for $20,000,0001, they’d be idiots for not taking the larger chances offer. We could have picked up for significantly less than the €80m they were asking for.


11.) 20 Feb 2020 16:01:54
Could we redseven? A lot of sides were interested in him, Real and Barcelona, PSG, Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, Spurs and ourselves. Plus a few others outside of Germany.

Dortmund paid his release clause to Salzburg, a big fee to his agent and advisor (Mino Raiola) and a handsome signing on fee to Haaland himself. In the end it was closer to €60m than just the €20m release clause.

So if it cost the team €60 using the release clause it would have cost us significantly more even if we could have talked Salzburg down from their €80 asking price.

Either way it's pointless going over it. We didn't sign him, we will never know the exact details. Not really much point playing the love sick puppy.


12.) 20 Feb 2020 16:24:43
Shappy, he's not going to be a good player, possibly, he is already a very good player. In 2years time, he'll be a very special player. And his value will not be £80m, it will be £150m.


13.) 20 Feb 2020 20:24:42
AAA, what difference does it make, the kid didn't wan to join us.


14.) 20 Feb 2020 21:59:43
They had an agreement on 13th of December, and something went wrong. Since then, the player has come out and said he felt needed at Dortmund. It's a cockup of monumental proportions. These type of players only come once every 8-10 years. We had a verbal agreement but we couldn't close the deal. Idiots and amateurs in charge as Ed has told us many times before.


 

 

20 Jan 2020 18:39:16
Cant believe how shambolic our squad and depth of squad is.
And I'm not hopeful we will see any game changers with the experience we are desperately seeking arrive this window.

cdp82

1.) 20 Jan 2020 18:53:56
The fact that our wage bill is so high for the little depth we have is shocking.


2.) 20 Jan 2020 19:13:46
We can do things in the market that others can only dream of. Pay bang average players on the same level as the world's best, yip we can do that alright 😂.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 14:50:42
Cant see us getting the midfielders we so desperately need.

cdp82

1.) 08 Aug 2019 14:55:59
Over now, onto sunday.


 

 

25 Apr 2014 07:58:04
Just a question. If we did get van gaal after the world cup how likely are we to of missed out on transfer targets due to his later start.

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer whatif questions about one coach who might be of interest to the club.}


1.) Reports suggest that we will be pressing on with signing the players that every manager would want, like Shaw, maybe Kroos etc. Some say that LvG is close to signing and targets have already been discussed whilst others say that the club have already identified players that they want, the manager just has to say yes or no.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2019 06:47:43
we can prioritize players all day long long. But its weather the player would come.

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13 Jul 2020 19:12:54
A poor defence with joint 2nd best record.

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27 Jan 2020 19:09:32
one window try two.

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16 Jan 2020 06:16:08
they are certainly acting that way. Look at Spurs linked to Gelson Fernandez last week get him a week later.

where as we have struggled to get the deal for fernandez done over 2 windows and are still at the rate the club are going another window away from completing the deal for him.

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13 Jan 2020 19:03:33
nistelrooy and aguero have to get it from me. Boy do they know where the back of the net is and both have more to their games than just goals. I'd say two completely different styles but both are magnificent strikers.
Then you have the likes of ronaldo who didn't even make the list.

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27 Nov 2019 07:01:31
Yeah he's just got a better squad of players to pick from.

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