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28 Apr 2025 14:11:54
As much as I think Cunha would be an excellent fit for us and for Amorim's system, I still think a centre forward should be our top priority this summer. If rumors are to be believed and we're in a position to pay £63m (€74m) for Cunha and £30m (€35m) for Delap, I'd much rather see us put up the €100m needed to sign Gyokores.
Of course. Whether or not he'd actually want to sign for us is another matter entirely.
1.) 28 Apr 2025 14:43:27
How does anyone know if Gyokores is as much a gamble as Delap or Cunha
I think I would rather have them both than Gyokores if my choice, I’m not sure what pedigree he got to be in 100 million bracket, was not great in England before, he is not an elite striker to be worth 100 million.
{Ed001's Note - he was great for Coventry, which is in England unless I am very mistaken.}
2.) 28 Apr 2025 17:01:46
Surely you need players to provide the service regardless of who the centre forward is? It's not like Hojland gets a lot of service/ opportunities which is part of his/ our problem.
We could have Eusebio up front at the moment and he isn't going to get many.
3.) 28 Apr 2025 17:35:38
So you think he is a 100 million pound elite striker then Ed 001?
{Ed001's Note - did I say that?}
4.) 28 Apr 2025 18:17:53
He’s the right player in the right system, which might be enough.
I think the creative types who play behind the striker and pull the strings are the real gems in any side personally, and a great one is worth their weight in gold. We need a 9 and 10 desperately.
5.) 28 Apr 2025 20:21:05
No point in getting a finisher if there's nothing to finish. We clearly need both a no. 10 and a no. 9 but the decision making in attack is the biggest problem imo. In the dream world that we get Cunha and Gyorkeres then with Amad and Bruno, we'd have a really top level forward line. Lots of ifs and buts in that, and we'd also probably want a CM and a GK to be truly competitive but I'm an optimistic at heart!
6.) 29 Apr 2025 00:09:29
The reason that we don’t create a lot of big chances is because Hoijlund is in the wrong place at the wrong time more of than not. I swear he spends more time with his back to goal than any other striker in the league.
And yeah. Cunha would fit Amorim’s system, but so would Gyokores. The latter would also fit into the system of most other managers in the event that things don’t work out with Amorim.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Cunha would be a great addition, but brining in somebody like Gyokores (and a new keeper) should be our top priorities.
7.) 29 Apr 2025 10:05:17
I think the problem for Hojlund at the moment is that he is not doing some basics that good strikers need to be doing. Essentially, getting in the box within the width of the goal posts and within 8/ 10 yards. When he links play up from deep he is to slow to get in those areas so the balls don't get put there. If he was getting there he'd also be occupying the CB's so that the cut backs we are looking for at the moment could become more successful. If you compared his positioning to Haalands for example I think you'd see a big difference. Hojlund got his goal at the weekend by being in this area and he needs to start getting in there more often.
8.) 29 Apr 2025 14:01:57
I'd love Utd to sign Gyokeres, he looks absolute quality in front of goal. I'd prefer him to Osimhen. Osimhen seems to come with baggage, which is something the club doesn't need.
9.) 29 Apr 2025 14:52:24
Long as his baggage includes goals I could not care less……. who we get, long as the club does its due diligence on a player, which I know for a fact RA does, right into the temperament and background of the player, he hates a disruptive influence so if Oismhen is that RA won’t want him, but to be fair how does anyone on here or the press know that he is, maybe he had good cause to moan previously, we can’t believe the press when it suits.
10.) 29 Apr 2025 15:59:32
Oshimen is too expensive it looks like. I've been impressed with goykeres every time I've seen him which is only 3 or 4 times to ve honest. Suits the system. Has uk experience good relationship with the RA so perhaps he will come to united if we win the europa league.
Lots of speculation to look forward to this summer and the club world cup will play havoc with the window.
11.) 29 Apr 2025 23:18:10
Take a holistic approach to all of this.
Osimehen vs Gyorekes, the latter is the better fit, for a multitude of reasons.
So if we achieve UCL, we go for one of them, IMO.
Do we stop there? No.
We have Obi coming through, and will need more than 2 strikers, likely 4.
Why not have Gyorekes, Delap (remember RA wanted him at Sporting), Obi and Rasmus (give him one more year) .
Cunha is not to be bought as a striker, so a separate discussion again IMO.
12.) 30 Apr 2025 06:47:14
Not buying this RA wanted him rubbish, that was said about Ugarte, but he not exactly purring over him now
Rasmus is pointless keeping if an offer is there he needs to be gone, shown nothing, terrible finisher, poor brain, always on his heels, delayed reaction, can’t head a ball can’t hold up the ball
Yes we need strikers, but ones that can finish and we need an experienced finisher, can’t have all these potentials!
13.) 30 Apr 2025 12:17:03
Gyorkes isn't going for a hundred million half that isn't it dunno how good he really is Portuguese leagues awful but he's going to be leauges above Hoijlund same as Delap is 30 mill for hims a steal good player from the bits iv seen of him.
14.) 30 Apr 2025 14:19:03
Gyorkes is not going for 50m and Delap won’t be going for 30mil, where are you dreaming these figures up from, if that’s the case buy both! But will never happen….
15.) 30 Apr 2025 19:36:02
German,
Delap has a 30m release clause if relegated (now active), and don't quote me on this, but I'm sure Sporting have suggested they would sell for 50m.
16.) 01 May 2025 02:11:23
I thought that Gyokeres buyout was 63m?!
17.) 01 May 2025 07:08:46
Hope your right jimbo and we can have both for 80m but when your seeing very average players going for 40-50 million these days, does that mean then these are two very average players!
18.) 01 May 2025 19:16:07
No chance any clubs paying a hundred million for Gyorkes sure i read somewhere Arsenal are lining him up for a 50 million transfer i think Delaps a no brainer at 30 million class player.
05 Aug 2024 13:14:51
Hi Ed002.
Hope you're well.
Is it true that Barcelona are desperate to get rid of De Jong? If so, are Manchester United still interested in the player, or are the club happy with Mainoo in that position?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold in the summer with interest remaining from Manchester United - although he will need to prove his fitness after injury - so might be one for later in the window. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player and with Arsenal - but neither is interested and the wages are huge.}
1.) 05 Aug 2024 14:42:13
Thanks, as always.
2.) 06 Aug 2024 12:39:20
I mean if they are prepared to consider a swap for Antony then they must be truly desperate.
21 Jul 2024 12:52:56
Hi Ed002. Hope you're good.
Do we (or any other clubs besides Madrid) have any interest in Alphonso Davies? One suspects Bayern would prefer to get a decent fee for him this summer than let him walk away for nothing this time next year.
{Ed002's Note - Another club has an interest but not Manchester United.}
1.) 21 Jul 2024 14:43:05
Thanks, Ed. Would be happy to see him move this summer, even if it’s not to us. Am not a fan of Real’s transfer tactics as of late.
2.) 21 Jul 2024 15:52:01
I don't mind it to be honest, they've earned that level of influence. I'd want us to take inspiration for when (if) we return to the top.
Someone like Wharton on a free when he's 24 to partner Mainoo in midfield for club and country would do me nicely!
3.) 21 Jul 2024 23:20:53
They’ve earned their level of influence!? What, like tapping up players left, right and centre!?
4.) 22 Jul 2024 05:04:05
No, what Real are doing is taking the p*** out of other clubs.
They're basically saying 'You crack on spending years helping to develop and nurture talent and, when we feel the time is right, we'll swagger over and bully you into a corner. '
Nobody earns the level of influence to go around acting like a w⚓️ towards everyone else, what utter BS that is.
5.) 22 Jul 2024 10:18:02
While I appreciate it's a perfectly legitimate way to do business, I think this new approach by Real Madrid is morally questionable at best, bullying and professional abuse at worse.
They are one of the wealthiest and richest clubs in the world, they are one of the few clubs that can currently afford to spend large sums of money on the best players.
There are several tiers of clubs, and Real Madrid are in that elite top tier, reserved for the richest, most powerful and successful clubs.
That top tier hoover up the most talented players to create an elite football team on the pitch.
The tiers below realistically will never climb into that top tier, they might occasionally upset the applecart. Finish in the UCL places, win a domestic cup or even do a Leicester and win a surprise league title. Yet that success tends to be fleeting and often ends with their best players being picked off by those established top sides. Unless they get massive outside investment they will not change the established order. While the new rules actually make it harder for outside investment, further cutting off that remaining pathway to becoming a top side.
Yet, those sides in the lower tiers are vital to the overall success and quality of football. As those sides grow, improve and develop they are the ones that push the elite sides to improve further to stay ahead.
However, those sides do not have access to the same TV revenue (with the exception of the EPL), they don't have access to the same level of sponsorship, and they can't make anywhere near as much through merchandise. For many of them they rely on the funds they make through player sales. Either developing a youth player through their academy or by spotting a rough diamond player and polishing him into a top level player. Then selling them on for a huge fee to bring in money to reinvest in their club.
Theses clubs need and rely on the big fees paid by the elite sides for their best players.
Likewise the elite sides are rarely able to develop their own players consistently due to the need to win every game and perform at the highest level in every game. While that environment is often not conducive for a young player to develop in.
These clubs are needed to produce and provide the right space and environment for players to develop and reach their potential.
The elite sides need these clubs to continue the conveyor belt of top talent for them to sign and create their football dream teams.
What Real Madrid are doing by putting pressure on players to run down their contracts so they can leave for free undermines the whole system. It's an abuse of power and position.
While not breaking any rules or laws of the game, it is morally corrupt and threatens the stability of football.
I understand that the spiralling costs of players is staggering, and becoming a problem within itself. Personally I think this is a bigger issue for the smaller and mid-sized clubs who are being pushed to spend representatively more on players due to the incomes of the elite sides growing at a much quicker rate than the rest of the clubs.
When an elite side has a net income of 500m, then a 100m player represents a 5th (20%) of their income. Yet those clubs just below them might only have a net income of 150m, which means that 100m player represents two thirds of their income (66%) .
That is why the inflated prices impact those clubs outside of the elite teams more than those like Real Madrid.
There needs to be a solution to stop these spiraling costs, but it cannot be by all clubs adopting Real Madrid's current approach as that will lead to the financial collapse of those smaller and mid-sized clubs that prop up the entire football structure.
6.) 22 Jul 2024 10:32:16
Too right Ork. I’m no fan of PSG, but Real have had them right off.
7.) 22 Jul 2024 11:39:31
It's not a new approach, Bayern made a habit of that strategy with Lewandowski, Goertzka, Gnabry and Rudy. Is it morally questionable? Of course. But you also could argue that so are transfer fees in itself. I can potentially see a day where the 'Bosman' rule gets expanded and fees no longer exist.
I doubt anyone would've complained if it was us that enticed Mbappe, whilst lining up the likes of Yoro and Davies etc for free in future windows. I definitely would've been bragging about that level of influence to my Liverpool friends that's for sure.
8.) 22 Jul 2024 11:45:30
Not Gnabry I'm confused with someone else who I can't remember now.
17 Jul 2022 14:15:08
Question for Ed002 if you're around. Any chance of us making a move for Depay this summer if Ronaldo leaves?
{Ed002's Note - No he is heading elsewhere.}
1.) 17 Jul 2022 16:06:42
Where?
2.) 17 Jul 2022 16:55:07
Looks to maybe be Spurs?
3.) 17 Jul 2022 17:14:28
I would assume Spurs Fireman.
4.) 17 Jul 2022 18:10:12
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5.) 17 Jul 2022 23:41:54
Thanks, Ed. Think he’s ready for the EPL now, so can see him being a bit of a bargain for somebody. Shame it won’t be us. A front three of Rashford, Sancho, and Depay could be interesting. I’d much rather him than Anthony.
6.) 18 Jul 2022 09:42:13
He’s had two cracks at playing at an elite level with us and Barcelona and been found wanting. Plus the whole circus show that follows him. Not for me.
7.) 18 Jul 2022 13:45:17
If ever there was a player to sign for spurs it's Memphis, dunno why but he is the most spurs like player ever??.
31 Aug 2021 13:57:00
Martial to PSG rumors starting to come in. Could be a good move for all involved.
{Ed077's Note - except PSG 😂😂. Although I would think it improbable at this stage of the window
1.) 31 Aug 2021 14:04:42
Really depends on whether Real come back with another bid for Mbappe. One has to suspect that PSG are hoping that they will though. I know they’re rolling in cash and Mbappe is a top player, but €180m + wages is a ridiculous amount to pay/ lose for the sake of one more season. If he goes, I can see them scrambling to spend the money on Martial and/ or Pogba, which may allow us to bring in a MF. Mendez is apparently working on the deal as an intermediary, although apparently we’re not overly keen.
2.) 31 Aug 2021 15:40:06
Did Tony start those rumors?
3.) 31 Aug 2021 19:05:23
Martial has more chance of signing for Melchester Rovers today than PSG. Sulkychops is here to stay sadly. Frustrating as we know there’s a talented lad there. Just doesn’t show it anywhere often enough!
4.) 31 Aug 2021 19:32:13
I can only see Martial playing in the league cup and fa cup this year unless we have a lot of injuries.
If we want a chance of winning anything this year the left side has to be rotated between Pogba and Rashford, the right between Greenwood and Sancho, the number 10 between Fernandes and maybe Lingard and CF between Ronaldo and Cavani. Rotating these players in each position doesn't significantly alter the quality in my eyes, it is CM that the issue still is.
McFred isn't ideal but it gets the best out of Pogba being on the left and let's the front 4 and full backs do what they do going forward, well maybe not AWB so much.
We always look worse with Pogba in the centre or when Matic comes in which is why we needed an upgrade there, however it was a pretty good window so hopefully CM will be addressed in Jan or next Summer 🤞🤷â€â™‚ï¸.
5.) 01 Sep 2021 02:35:07
The front 4 options are incredible, and you didn't mention DvdB, Amad, Elanga, Martial. Crazy.
Lindelof and Bailly as reserve CBs
Our squad is stacked.
I actually like McT and Fred surrounded by this team, I am concerned when they can't play. I HOPE McTom and DvdB play together and create something new, I can see Scotty having the physicality height and field coverage to play well with Donny. He needs to be a bit more disciplined.
I think we will suprise a few non believers this year, we could pull it off. The league is very strong, be tough for anyone to win this year.
6.) 01 Sep 2021 17:55:51
I just don't see DVDB getting much league and CL game time again for whatever reason Dodgy, and Amad and Elanga will only be cup players on the whole I think and won't get many league or CL run outs.
I agree those 3 are very good players and add to the rest nicely, I just included the players I see playing plenty of league and CL games. Hopefully Martial isn't one of them, unless he stops being a moody, sulky baby and puts the required effort in.
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15 May 2025 12:45:39
Such a shame that we're not in a position to compete for Frimpong. He'd be perfect for Amorim's system and has an incredibly reasonable release clause. No chance he chooses us over Liverpool, though.
1.) 15 May 2025 14:08:48
I think that he’s a weird choice for Liverpool.
First, it’s a major knock for Bradley. Young lad who looks like he’s ready to step up, and they sign another young player to keep him out of the starting 11.
More importantly, the reason Salah was so effective this season is because his defensive responsibilities were reduced. Trent struggled to cope with his increased defensive workload, and Frimpong likes to play even higher up the pitch than Trent. The right mid is going to have to defend the entire right flank because neither Salah or Frimpong stay back.
I get that he has a good release clause, but I’m not sure of the fit.
2.) 15 May 2025 17:00:39
Is Salah does lose half a yard then he may move up top kind of like how ronaldo did in his later years.
3.) 15 May 2025 18:15:09
doubt that DSG, he needs to receive the ball in space to cause damage. He does not have the heading ability or height to make him a good shout for 9.
Salah is more Messi than Ronaldo.
4.) 15 May 2025 18:22:02
Ronaldo was better suited to that role due to his ability in the air. Salah just had a phenomenal season in his best position, and a big part of that was allowing him to stay higher up the pitch to conserve energy for making an attacking impact.
For me, he’s a player that operates best drifting into pockets of space. Whereas, Ronaldo’s game has always been about getting in behind the defence.
5.) 15 May 2025 20:44:54
Were we not linked with Dumfries at one point. I know I have said negative things about him previously but watching him against Barcelona he was incredible.
The RWB position is still very much a weak spot, and I don't but playing Amad there because he is not a defender.
6.) 15 May 2025 21:13:06
Yeah Jimbob, a player getting ready to play in the champions league final will definitely want to join a side that’s lucky not to be relegated this season.
7.) 15 May 2025 22:27:58
Liverpool need cover at right back and with their amount of games it's imperative to have high quality too. Different opposition will allow Slot to choose a more defensive defender in Bradley or more attacking one in Frimpong. Additionally if Salah is injured they will have cover for him too and I dare say that woukd appmy to the left side of the field too.
Frimpong is proven to perform at an high level so is a no risk option for relatively little money.
As others pointed out he would be ideal for us but right now it's clear that our priorities lie elsewhere and our transfer budget is not big enough and lastly given the choice between a good Liverpool team and ours it's a no brainier for the majority of players unless they have a special affinity for the manager or the club.
{Ed025's Note - spot on for me Salford mate..
8.) 15 May 2025 22:30:50
Wow Danny, having a bad day.
I'm pretty certain he is destined to leave Inter this summer, if we get UCL, why wouldn't he come.
9.) 16 May 2025 03:38:48
Jimbo, maybe because even if we get champions league not a cat in hells chance getting to latter stages, and maybe because there will be much better options out there for him, we are currently a very poor team and very poorly run club, we are trying to live on the past, it’s time to take the tints off, unless we offer incredible money which is not looking likely with skinflint holding the purse strings, we will be shopping at Aldi…again!
10.) 16 May 2025 10:21:42
Jesus German, give us something positive! Just one post :D.
11.) 16 May 2025 15:37:11
Oh sorry I must have missed the things to be positive about, perhaps you could enlighten me what there is to be positive about.
SJR, The Glazers, the Team the squad, the ticket fiasco, the redundancies, please enlighten me what there is to be positive about regarding United at this moment.
In the meantime whilst your thinking I will keep the red specs off and the reality in….
12.) 17 May 2025 17:01:47
Oh I dunno. Chance to win the Europa Cup and get in CL, attract better players, and cheer up a few people maybe.
12 Apr 2025 07:45:24
Rasmus Hojlund (€73.9m) . Mason Mount (€64.2m) . Andre Onana (€50.2m) .
I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but has a club ever had a worse summer transfer window than ours in the 23/ 24 season? For those who forgot, this was the same window when Raya (€31.9m), Rice (€116.6m), and Kane (€95m) were available.
1.) 12 Apr 2025 12:46:09
Kane was not available. No way levy would have sold kane to us, utter rubbish.
2.) 12 Apr 2025 15:09:40
Right, Dodgy, because there aren’t numerous instances where Spurs have sold players to domestic rivals since Levy became their CEO.
Five of their ten most expensive departures have been to other EPL clubs, including Berbatov and Carrick to us. Assuming Kane could have been persuaded to join us, we could absolutely have signed him, for the right price. Sure, we would have probably ended up paying £5-10m more than Bayern did, but to say that Levy would never sell to us is utter rubbish.
3.) 12 Apr 2025 15:30:33
I would not say it’s utter rubbish that Levy would not sell to us, he would have little choice if the offer was right and more importantly Kane wanted to come to us…. he did not want to sell us Berbatov but did!
So to say utter rubbish is not reality just your opinion.
4.) 12 Apr 2025 22:26:48
Kane came with a £21m a year salary, which is pretty much what the other 3 make combined. If we'd bought Kane the total cost would have been £40m a year compared to £17m for Hojlund. We may have bought badly but we simply couldn't afford Kane, and even if we had him it's questionable whether we could have got that much out of him given the inadequacy of the team around him. That said it was indeed a terrible window and a competent organization would have done a whole lot better for the money laid out.
5.) 13 Apr 2025 05:31:08
Kane would certainly have got 2 goals in 25 rather than the 1 Rasmus got, so worth double the money!
It’s utterly ridiculous saying lack of service is the root cause of Rasmus being an awful striker, yes it contributes but, proper strikers adapt and find a way, Rasmus always delayed reaction, there have been enough chances for him to have at least hit double figures, he is just not good enough. ebd of.
6.) 13 Apr 2025 09:07:41
German, Rasmus has had 15 shots in the EPL this season, every player with 10 or more goals have had 52 or more shots.
For him to have 10 league goals this season he'd need to have a 66% shot conversion. For comparison Salah who has 27 league goals has a shot conversion rate of 29%.
Is Rasmus a great striker? Currently no, but he definitely has potential. The problem is that he is a Micheal Owen type striker, a player who wants to play off the shoulder of the last man in a counter attacking team. Yet he's being asked to be more like a Didier Drogba type striker who'll hold up the ball, bring others into play and still run off the shoulder.
He's just not suited to how we play under Amorim.
7.) 13 Apr 2025 12:15:32
If Rasmus had 5 shots and scored 5 goals is a season at 100% conversion rate……. would you rather have him or Salah at 29%?
I know who I would rather have.
Conversion rate, whilst impressive, is yet another stat that means nothing out of context.
8.) 13 Apr 2025 14:20:25
I don't see anything but an ok young player way out of his depth.
9.) 13 Apr 2025 15:11:48
Im not seeing this potential in Hoijlund been an awful signing was gash even in his purple patch he's been an empty jersey since he got here some people just see what they want to see.
10.) 13 Apr 2025 18:11:33
He was not exactly on fire under TEN HAAG apart from against minnows in Europe, those stats are just not worth bothering with, forget goals he never wins a header, he is useless at holding ball up he never wins a strength test and he brings no one into play….
Comparing him with Owen is another useless stat, Owen was banging goals in at 17…. And if he never got ball he would make a goal for himself. Or at least make a run in right direction at right time….
Rasmus and a 17 yr old Owen should not be aired in same breath
Rasmus not exactly young anymore either.
Let’s face it he is not good enough and never will be.
11.) 13 Apr 2025 23:22:11
Shappy mate he can’t even play off the shoulder…
Good strikers make chances for themselves, his movement is poor and his runs and abysmal, and as for hos hold up play, he can’t even progress the ball when he has it, his link up play is even worse
And good players can play in any system, the reality is he is crap and yet another produce of a poor scouting network.
27 Oct 2024 03:54:25
So Chido Obi-Martin scored a hatrick 14 minutes into his debut for the under 18s.
While I agree that we need to give him time to settle and shouldn't be throwing him in at the deep end with results and performances being as bad as they are, there's a part of me that can't wait to see the lad turn out for the senior side.
1.) 27 Oct 2024 10:27:20
Look forward to seeing him eventually integrated into things, maybe he’ll start to crop up on the bench for cup games.
2.) 27 Oct 2024 12:51:05
Don't let Ten Hag anywhere near the lad.
3.) 27 Oct 2024 12:53:12
His hattrick almost fell into his lap with some pretty ropey defending. He does look a good player though, big lad who presses and looks quick. His size will not be a problem for getting a chance in the right game later this year, but I would expect him to be be eased in very carefully.
4.) 27 Oct 2024 13:11:33
Some start for him. He is obviously above u18 in sure he will progress to the 21s and maybe get some chances next pre season.
5.) 27 Oct 2024 13:20:32
If he going to be that good, will they fast track him to the Under 21s in a few months, see how he copes with that.
6.) 27 Oct 2024 16:46:29
Dodgy,
Chances always fall in the lap of great strikers, that’s not a coincidence. Also we had 4 or 5 great chances fall into our laps first half today and didn’t score so maybe someone who can do that would be helpful.
7.) 27 Oct 2024 18:26:43
Yep, fair point gds. He also snat he'd at an easy chance and put it wide. Not trying to pit the guy down, I think he is an exciting prospect by all accounts. Tumble is probably right. Up to U21s this year and then pre season next summer.
A dishcloth could have finished better than we did today, so maybe we will see him sooner.
8.) 27 Oct 2024 17:26:23
Some really promising players in the Under 18s, seem much better than everyone else in the league.
13 Sep 2024 12:03:34
Am I going mad or is Ten Haag just trying to gaslight me? I watched his presser earlier and he now seems to be denying that he said that we weren't in a position to win the league four months ago, which I'm fairly confident he did.
It's also slightly worrying that when asked if he thought we were moving in the right direction he avoided saying yes, instead opting for some vague answer about us finding out at the end of the season. I guess by then we'll probably have replaced him with somebody competent, so maybe that's what he meant. Either that, or he doesn't want to commit to an answer so that he can come up with another excuse after he gets canned.
1.) 13 Sep 2024 12:23:47
The issue is he comes across to many as a bumbling idiot. Our performances reflect that and did all last season and this season to-date.
The manager bloke likes to keep expectation levels low just like his supporters.
Looking for every excuse under the soon to justify the rubbish his team serves up on a weekly basis.
Our aim should be to win the league. But if you state that it can't be done from the outset then your liking for trouble.
He is negative and not to be trusted imo.
Even his fans are saying g we shouldn't finish top 4 it's quite pathetic to go into any competition with that mindset. It's weak and portrays weakness ole was the same.
Keep expectations low In the hope that he can convince the numbskulls that 6th was a marvelous result. Using deflection at every opportunity. Is that in the United DNA I don't think so.
2.) 13 Sep 2024 13:05:08
How much stick did I get when I said ETH was useless this time last year!
3.) 13 Sep 2024 17:45:54
Oh Maze, get over it.
4.) 13 Sep 2024 17:49:58
All he has said is we are aiming for bigger trophies and go into every game wanting to win.
The rest of what you are talking about I have no idea as I watched it and you are imagining things. what's wrong with you guys seriously.
Has slot come out and said we are going for the pl title, or ange or emery or anyone who finished ahead of us besides city and arsenal. not sure even Arteta has said it.
Do you guys see journos asking these guys about winning the league, its Gotcha question. If he says yes he will called deluded by you lot.
Anyone who thinks he should say our aim is to win the league is the numbskull and detached from reality. If you don't like the truth its your issue.
5.) 13 Sep 2024 23:53:25
Our aim should ALWAYS be to win the league! That’s reality!
Whether it’s achievable is a different thing entirely.
6.) 14 Sep 2024 03:46:58
Ahmad. There have been multiple occasions when Ten Haag has said that we couldn’t win the league.
On April 27, ahead of the Burnley game, Ten Haag said “We are competing for top four. […] We are not in this moment in a position to compete for number one or number two [in the league]. That is fact”. In the same press conference, he said “It’s not a two or three horse race in the Premier League anymore […]. There are six or seven teams that can compete”.
As he’d already made it pretty clear that he didn’t think we could win the league when saying this, one has to assume that we weren’t one of the six or seven teams that he was talking about. Ergo, he seems to be suggesting that we are the seventh or eighth best team in the league and that finishing fourth would be an achievement.
In a pre-season interview with AD Sportwereld, when asked if we had a chance of winning the league this season he said “we are really a long way away from that”.
You can call me a numbskull or detached from reality all you want, but I’m not the one trying to dispute objective facts. Ten Haag absolutely said these things and no amount of childish name calling is going to change that. If you don’t like the truth, that’s your issue.
7.) 14 Sep 2024 04:12:54
You are right, he is just trying to gaslight you. But you are not falling for it, are you?
8.) 14 Sep 2024 10:03:47
Having spent (wasted) £600 million, how much more do we need to spend before he can say we should be challenging for the title?
9.) 14 Sep 2024 10:07:33
Redseven
Where was united in the league table comparative to the leaders last April. Are you for real or just so far gone in your dislike of eth that you only see what you want to see. What did you expect him to say. We had a sliver of a chance for top 4 at that time if we could win out and some help from teams above us.
He always answers it by replying about transition, need to win every game and our our aim is higher trophies.
Its basic media training 101 for anyone who does media or in a public space and understands you will get quoted as journos will take a bit of what you said that would make a good headline. I do a lot of them every year and know exactly what he is doing and saying. This is not WWF and the rock for Christ sake. if you want that watch WWF and skip his pressers.
Actually every manager does it its the oldest Gotcha question in football as they will bring it back at you all season if its not going well.
If you think a sign of a good manager is one that is about pleasing you and some of the fans with Bravado bs statements, then you will be disappointed more often than not.
Enzo has squad that they have spent 1.4 bill pounds, do you see him talk about any of this nonsense.
Reality is you dislike/ disapprove of him beyond a point off return so whatever he says or does will not matter. I get it.
10.) 14 Sep 2024 11:02:17
Ahmad, are you really not getting the point or just avoiding it? He is just throwing in the towel even before the ball is being kicked. Whether you win it or not, you simply cannot say that you are not competing. For fucks sake, if you are not in it to win it please stay home and let some other team try it. You are the manager of MANCHESTER UNITED not some roadside league team that it doesn't matter what you say.
If you call criticism as hatred then do tell us what we should term your blind faith in that dumbass.
11.) 14 Sep 2024 11:58:32
Great Post ua .
Hatred ?? some cultures use that word in a totally wrong context see it on here a lot. If you don't understand you don't understand.
12.) 14 Sep 2024 17:36:50
Ahmad. The manager of Manchester United should never be saying that we can’t compete for the highest honors, even if the chances of us actually doing so are incredibly slim.
No, I don’t expect him to come out and say “Yes. We’re going to win the league next season”, but I also don’t expect him to throw in the towel before a ball has even been kicked.
What kind of message does that send to the players or potential signings? What about the fans who spend thousands of pounds every year to come and watch the team play? There are a million and one ways he could have chosen to answer that question. Here are just a few:
“Right now we’re just focusing on our next game and finishing the season strongly. ”
“We have a talented group of players and a lot of young players coming through, so anything is possible. ”
“We still have four more league games left to play and a cup final to prepare for. After that, we’ll start to think about next season. ”
“Our main aim is to improve our performances on the pitch. If we can do that, we’re confident that next season will be better than this one. ”
I don’t think anybody would have batted an eyelid if he’d come out with one of these responses, but instead, we’re still talking about it four months later; yet another distraction that we really don’t need. Ten Haag zealots love to harp on about all of the terrible things that he’s had to deal with, but like most of those other issues, this one is very much of his own making.
27 Aug 2024 08:54:23
Ugarte done.
Think this has to go down as one of our most successful transfer windows in quite some time. I expect much of the focus will be on outgoing from here on out (Erickson, Sancho, Lindelof seem the most likely to move on), but am hoping there may be one or two more surprises in terms of incomings.
I wouldn't be too surprised to see us sign a GK, a LB, a CB, a ST, or even another midfielder (to be clear here, I mean one of these positions, not all of them) . Heck, if Sancho and Antony end up leaving, we'll probably need another wide player as well. No matter what we do over the coming days, I can see next summer being just as busy as this one.
1.) 27 Aug 2024 10:08:42
100% agree on it being one of the best transfer windows we've ever had. Obviously, it's all on paper just now and previous windows where we've got players like Mkhitaryan, Sancho, Ronaldo, Sanchez, Pogba and the many others who haven't hit the heights we'd hoped, looked very promising too.
Nevertheless, it looks like for the first time in a long time, we have moved on players we should be. We've made decisions that in previous years we likely wouldn't have. Trying to move Sancho, letting players like Varane, Martial, Van De Beek all leave for nothing or at a huge loss. Selling McTominay is another as very few fans would start him. We're even moving on younger players who may not break into the first team but seem to be structuring sell ones and buy back clauses into deals for them.
As for the signings, in my opinion they all make the squad stronger in areas we needed improvement and they're all 25 and under. If there are any others after Ugarte then brilliant, if not, I'll still be very happy despite the fact we do still have weaknesses in the squad. We can't expect everything to be fixed in one summer.
Will it work? No idea. However, it's good to see us moving away from what we've done in the transfer market across the last decade as we know that definitely hasn't worked.
2.) 27 Aug 2024 10:23:09
I actually can't remember a better transfer window for us.
We've managed to shift a load of players who either weren't contributing, weren't good enough, or had no long term future here.
We've also managed to bring in 5 players who either massively improve us right away, or have the potential to be huge improvements.
We have shaped the squad with more technical and intelligent players. We are starting to see an identity take shape with this squad.
Finally we have somehow managed to to all of this while also balancing the books, reducing the wage bill, raising funds through sales and not over paying for players.
If this window is anything to go on then I'm supremely confident that the new people in charge will be able to turn around our fortunes over the next few summer windows. Continuing to remove those who don't fit what we need, and being in players who suit the club's vision.
I'm not foolish enough to believe every signing will be a success, but I'm confident that we will get more right than wrong moving forward. While without overpaying for players both in fees and wages, when those few players do fail to meet expectations we should be more able to move them on fairly quickly and not be stuck with them for 4-5 years, or sell at a massive loss.
3.) 27 Aug 2024 11:00:11
Agreed great window imo although personally sad to see mc go.
There were many here who did not want Ineos and were skeptics but believe best thing that has happened to the club in a long time and glad Qatar did not get their hands on us. The layers of top people added and probably still more to come, the way they have walked the talk and working to a long term vision and ambition is commendable.
There are no trophies on offer in August, let us see where we are come April/ May before reacting to everything that does not go our way. Work in progress and we are building a great nucleus of a team. Keep the faith and trust the people running things even though its hard to do given everyone has scars from the woodward glazers years and many falls dawns.
4.) 27 Aug 2024 16:52:42
Great window. Best in many a year in terms of getting players out.
Look forward to the manager playing the new guys.
Still too many players on the books that played under ole.
I don't think the mentality will change till the rest are gone.
Dalot maguire lindelof Bruno Shaw and rash. I think only 1 of them and I hope none of them will be here when window shuts next summer.
5.) 27 Aug 2024 16:55:02
Ahmad, I did not want ineos. Not because I did not want what they are now delivering, but because I want the glazers out of our club. They have bought our club for nothing. Taken dividends, underdeveloped the infrastructure, run it more as a business instead if a football club, and saddled us with massive financial problems.
Ineos seem to be sorting out the playing squad, but it will be slow and steady. I agree that the focus on younger talent to develop and not galacticos is very promising, and I'm sure that it will get us back to a proper club eventually.
The problem is the glazers are still there. They are still sucking blood. How do we get them out? I would like to see that pathway.
We are talking about a new stadium now. More debt. Suppose it will be the snapdragon stadium or some such abomination.
6.) 27 Aug 2024 19:10:15
Dodgy, I don't know about you, but I could live with a new stadium being called Ineos Old Trafford for an extra £50 million a year to fund success on the pitch.
20 May 2025 17:12:41
Brad. Even if we sell three or four, and let Erickson go, we still have six first team players who are best suited to one of those two CAM spots (Bruno, Zirkzee, Mount, Garnacho, Maino, and Amad) .
Compare that to CDM, where our only two first team options are Ugarte and Casemiro, and I think it’s fair to say that CDM is much more or a priority than CAM. Likewise, our only out and out strikers are Chido (who has never scored a first team goal) and Hojlund (who is nowhere near good enough to lead the line at an EPL club), and blowing £60m+ on Cunha seems like a strange decision, especially if doing so means we have to settle for a Delap rather than a Sesko, an Osimhen, or a Gyokores.
I do think Cunha would be a good signing, but considering the many gaps in our squad, a new CAM should be fairly low down the shopping list; not this season’s marquee signing.
19 May 2025 17:10:05
A good signing, for sure, but just one many we need. A proven goalscorer, a new keeper, and a CDM are arguably much more important.
As things stand, we already have seven or eight players on the books who are best suited to one of those two CAM positions (Bruno, Mount, Maino, Garnacho, Zirkzee, Amad, Anthony, Rashford, and Sancho), even if one or two of those look likely to move on in the summer. Comparatively, we are seriously short-staffed up top (Højlund and Chido) and in the CDM position (Casemiro and Ugarte), and both of our keepers are terrible.
07 May 2025 15:43:31
If he’d rather stay, then that’s good too.
07 May 2025 06:03:28
If he wants to go, let him go.
29 Apr 2025 00:09:29
The reason that we don’t create a lot of big chances is because Hoijlund is in the wrong place at the wrong time more of than not. I swear he spends more time with his back to goal than any other striker in the league.
And yeah. Cunha would fit Amorim’s system, but so would Gyokores. The latter would also fit into the system of most other managers in the event that things don’t work out with Amorim.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Cunha would be a great addition, but brining in somebody like Gyokores (and a new keeper) should be our top priorities.
20 May 2025 02:03:52
Iirc, Liverpool were linked with him quite strongly a few seasons ago, but a deal never materialized. Perhaps he’s happy where he is?
15 May 2025 16:49:30
I have to agree with Ken on this one. It would be in poor taste to make hundreds of staff redundant and then spend tens of thousands of pounds to fly the remaining staff over to Bilbao.
Of course, whether or not hundreds of staff should have been made redundant in the first place is another matter entirely. From what I gather, poor decision making had led to the club’s workforce becoming bloated, but the scope and scale of the cuts seems pretty brutal nonetheless.
02 May 2025 11:38:19
Based on where we were when Amorim came in, I’d say that winning the Europa League would be a good result. But he’s right. Finishing in seventeenth place is nowhere near good enough.
25 Apr 2025 14:55:21
A Cuna-Mateta partnership could be just what we need. It would mean no worries for the rest of our days.
24 Apr 2025 11:18:49
Delap only makes sense if the plans is to sell Hoijlund and bring in a proven goalscorer like Osimhen. But I don’t think that is the plan, and I don’t think Delap would want to go somewhere just to play second fiddle.
I expect he’ll end up at Chelsea and will probably come good for them, but I don’t think we can afford to take that risk.