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04 Aug 2025 15:22:57
Multiple sources now claiming that we are going to put in a formal offer for Sesko. It had previously been claimed that we'd only submit a bid if he gave use some indication that he wanted to join. Make of that what you will.
1.) 05 Aug 2025 07:39:45
NUFC have put in an improved offer.
2.) 05 Aug 2025 09:24:00
To be honest if we have to match the offer of €80m plus €10m in add ons then that's just too much for him at this stage. He hasn't done anything to remotely justify that fee.
Time to move on and look at other options. I know it'd be ideal to sign a striker who'll be the man for the next 5-7 years, but it's not essential. Even if we get someone who'll be good enough for the next 2-3 years and then have to readdress it a couple of years down the line that is fine.
I'd seriously consider speaking with PSG about a deal for Randall Kolo Muani, who might potentially be available on a loan with an obligation to buy next summer. Maybe then take the money we were thinking of spending this summer on a striker and see if we can sign a top class CDM like Baleba or similar. Whispers that Tchoumeni could be available, and we've been interested in him in the past.
3.) 05 Aug 2025 10:35:30
Vivell, Wilcox, amorim might just know a bit more than us shappy.
4.) 05 Aug 2025 10:40:46
Mateta or Watkins would be far better proposition then get some pace in midfield and central defence.
5.) 05 Aug 2025 11:10:04
I'm bored with Sesko already, this could drag on and on. There are other options, we really don't want to get into a bidding was with Newcastle.
If the player says he wants to join us then great, but I've not heard that yet.
6.) 05 Aug 2025 14:34:53
Ajh, I think we have only put in the bid because he has said he wants us. no other explanation.
Not sure why you're bored with it. Massive upgrade.
7.) 05 Aug 2025 14:50:42
Anything is an upgrade on Rasmus and Zirkee, but I am not sure where your getting massive upgrade from, what facts is there to back that up? Sesko not exactly prolific by any means.
8.) 05 Aug 2025 14:55:45
Not sure we can say he is an upgrade yet. If he comes it will take time for him to settle.
9.) 05 Aug 2025 17:20:10
I'm bored with the constant headlines and the not knowing what is going on, i'm bored with the time it seems to take to get deals done.
I also have no idea if he will realise his potemtial, or whether we are simply swapping one with potential for another with potential.
10.) 05 Aug 2025 21:08:31
Alot of people saying he wants or favours us? Does he or was his agent just saying that to play both clubs against each other ensuring a huge financial package for his client and himself. We might have been played here, but time will tell! Whoever loses out is going to have egg on their face due to the public nature of the transfer and all the noise surrounding it.
11.) 05 Aug 2025 22:49:34
If this happens I’d be putting Zirkzee on the transfer list right away. I just don’t see where he fits in this system.
28 Apr 2025 14:11:54
As much as I think Cunha would be an excellent fit for us and for Amorim's system, I still think a centre forward should be our top priority this summer. If rumors are to be believed and we're in a position to pay £63m (€74m) for Cunha and £30m (€35m) for Delap, I'd much rather see us put up the €100m needed to sign Gyokores.
Of course. Whether or not he'd actually want to sign for us is another matter entirely.
1.) 28 Apr 2025 14:43:27
How does anyone know if Gyokores is as much a gamble as Delap or Cunha
I think I would rather have them both than Gyokores if my choice, I’m not sure what pedigree he got to be in 100 million bracket, was not great in England before, he is not an elite striker to be worth 100 million.
{Ed001's Note - he was great for Coventry, which is in England unless I am very mistaken.}
2.) 28 Apr 2025 17:01:46
Surely you need players to provide the service regardless of who the centre forward is? It's not like Hojland gets a lot of service/ opportunities which is part of his/ our problem.
We could have Eusebio up front at the moment and he isn't going to get many.
3.) 28 Apr 2025 17:35:38
So you think he is a 100 million pound elite striker then Ed 001?
{Ed001's Note - did I say that?}
4.) 28 Apr 2025 18:17:53
He’s the right player in the right system, which might be enough.
I think the creative types who play behind the striker and pull the strings are the real gems in any side personally, and a great one is worth their weight in gold. We need a 9 and 10 desperately.
5.) 28 Apr 2025 20:21:05
No point in getting a finisher if there's nothing to finish. We clearly need both a no. 10 and a no. 9 but the decision making in attack is the biggest problem imo. In the dream world that we get Cunha and Gyorkeres then with Amad and Bruno, we'd have a really top level forward line. Lots of ifs and buts in that, and we'd also probably want a CM and a GK to be truly competitive but I'm an optimistic at heart!
6.) 29 Apr 2025 00:09:29
The reason that we don’t create a lot of big chances is because Hoijlund is in the wrong place at the wrong time more of than not. I swear he spends more time with his back to goal than any other striker in the league.
And yeah. Cunha would fit Amorim’s system, but so would Gyokores. The latter would also fit into the system of most other managers in the event that things don’t work out with Amorim.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Cunha would be a great addition, but brining in somebody like Gyokores (and a new keeper) should be our top priorities.
7.) 29 Apr 2025 10:05:17
I think the problem for Hojlund at the moment is that he is not doing some basics that good strikers need to be doing. Essentially, getting in the box within the width of the goal posts and within 8/ 10 yards. When he links play up from deep he is to slow to get in those areas so the balls don't get put there. If he was getting there he'd also be occupying the CB's so that the cut backs we are looking for at the moment could become more successful. If you compared his positioning to Haalands for example I think you'd see a big difference. Hojlund got his goal at the weekend by being in this area and he needs to start getting in there more often.
8.) 29 Apr 2025 14:01:57
I'd love Utd to sign Gyokeres, he looks absolute quality in front of goal. I'd prefer him to Osimhen. Osimhen seems to come with baggage, which is something the club doesn't need.
9.) 29 Apr 2025 14:52:24
Long as his baggage includes goals I could not care less……. who we get, long as the club does its due diligence on a player, which I know for a fact RA does, right into the temperament and background of the player, he hates a disruptive influence so if Oismhen is that RA won’t want him, but to be fair how does anyone on here or the press know that he is, maybe he had good cause to moan previously, we can’t believe the press when it suits.
10.) 29 Apr 2025 15:59:32
Oshimen is too expensive it looks like. I've been impressed with goykeres every time I've seen him which is only 3 or 4 times to ve honest. Suits the system. Has uk experience good relationship with the RA so perhaps he will come to united if we win the europa league.
Lots of speculation to look forward to this summer and the club world cup will play havoc with the window.
11.) 29 Apr 2025 23:18:10
Take a holistic approach to all of this.
Osimehen vs Gyorekes, the latter is the better fit, for a multitude of reasons.
So if we achieve UCL, we go for one of them, IMO.
Do we stop there? No.
We have Obi coming through, and will need more than 2 strikers, likely 4.
Why not have Gyorekes, Delap (remember RA wanted him at Sporting), Obi and Rasmus (give him one more year) .
Cunha is not to be bought as a striker, so a separate discussion again IMO.
12.) 30 Apr 2025 06:47:14
Not buying this RA wanted him rubbish, that was said about Ugarte, but he not exactly purring over him now
Rasmus is pointless keeping if an offer is there he needs to be gone, shown nothing, terrible finisher, poor brain, always on his heels, delayed reaction, can’t head a ball can’t hold up the ball
Yes we need strikers, but ones that can finish and we need an experienced finisher, can’t have all these potentials!
13.) 30 Apr 2025 12:17:03
Gyorkes isn't going for a hundred million half that isn't it dunno how good he really is Portuguese leagues awful but he's going to be leauges above Hoijlund same as Delap is 30 mill for hims a steal good player from the bits iv seen of him.
14.) 30 Apr 2025 14:19:03
Gyorkes is not going for 50m and Delap won’t be going for 30mil, where are you dreaming these figures up from, if that’s the case buy both! But will never happen….
15.) 30 Apr 2025 19:36:02
German,
Delap has a 30m release clause if relegated (now active), and don't quote me on this, but I'm sure Sporting have suggested they would sell for 50m.
16.) 01 May 2025 02:11:23
I thought that Gyokeres buyout was 63m?!
17.) 01 May 2025 07:08:46
Hope your right jimbo and we can have both for 80m but when your seeing very average players going for 40-50 million these days, does that mean then these are two very average players!
18.) 01 May 2025 19:16:07
No chance any clubs paying a hundred million for Gyorkes sure i read somewhere Arsenal are lining him up for a 50 million transfer i think Delaps a no brainer at 30 million class player.
05 Aug 2024 13:14:51
Hi Ed002.
Hope you're well.
Is it true that Barcelona are desperate to get rid of De Jong? If so, are Manchester United still interested in the player, or are the club happy with Mainoo in that position?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold in the summer with interest remaining from Manchester United - although he will need to prove his fitness after injury - so might be one for later in the window. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player and with Arsenal - but neither is interested and the wages are huge.}
1.) 05 Aug 2024 14:42:13
Thanks, as always.
2.) 06 Aug 2024 12:39:20
I mean if they are prepared to consider a swap for Antony then they must be truly desperate.
21 Jul 2024 12:52:56
Hi Ed002. Hope you're good.
Do we (or any other clubs besides Madrid) have any interest in Alphonso Davies? One suspects Bayern would prefer to get a decent fee for him this summer than let him walk away for nothing this time next year.
{Ed002's Note - Another club has an interest but not Manchester United.}
1.) 21 Jul 2024 14:43:05
Thanks, Ed. Would be happy to see him move this summer, even if it’s not to us. Am not a fan of Real’s transfer tactics as of late.
2.) 21 Jul 2024 15:52:01
I don't mind it to be honest, they've earned that level of influence. I'd want us to take inspiration for when (if) we return to the top.
Someone like Wharton on a free when he's 24 to partner Mainoo in midfield for club and country would do me nicely!
3.) 21 Jul 2024 23:20:53
They’ve earned their level of influence!? What, like tapping up players left, right and centre!?
4.) 22 Jul 2024 05:04:05
No, what Real are doing is taking the p*** out of other clubs.
They're basically saying 'You crack on spending years helping to develop and nurture talent and, when we feel the time is right, we'll swagger over and bully you into a corner. '
Nobody earns the level of influence to go around acting like a w⚓️ towards everyone else, what utter BS that is.
5.) 22 Jul 2024 10:18:02
While I appreciate it's a perfectly legitimate way to do business, I think this new approach by Real Madrid is morally questionable at best, bullying and professional abuse at worse.
They are one of the wealthiest and richest clubs in the world, they are one of the few clubs that can currently afford to spend large sums of money on the best players.
There are several tiers of clubs, and Real Madrid are in that elite top tier, reserved for the richest, most powerful and successful clubs.
That top tier hoover up the most talented players to create an elite football team on the pitch.
The tiers below realistically will never climb into that top tier, they might occasionally upset the applecart. Finish in the UCL places, win a domestic cup or even do a Leicester and win a surprise league title. Yet that success tends to be fleeting and often ends with their best players being picked off by those established top sides. Unless they get massive outside investment they will not change the established order. While the new rules actually make it harder for outside investment, further cutting off that remaining pathway to becoming a top side.
Yet, those sides in the lower tiers are vital to the overall success and quality of football. As those sides grow, improve and develop they are the ones that push the elite sides to improve further to stay ahead.
However, those sides do not have access to the same TV revenue (with the exception of the EPL), they don't have access to the same level of sponsorship, and they can't make anywhere near as much through merchandise. For many of them they rely on the funds they make through player sales. Either developing a youth player through their academy or by spotting a rough diamond player and polishing him into a top level player. Then selling them on for a huge fee to bring in money to reinvest in their club.
Theses clubs need and rely on the big fees paid by the elite sides for their best players.
Likewise the elite sides are rarely able to develop their own players consistently due to the need to win every game and perform at the highest level in every game. While that environment is often not conducive for a young player to develop in.
These clubs are needed to produce and provide the right space and environment for players to develop and reach their potential.
The elite sides need these clubs to continue the conveyor belt of top talent for them to sign and create their football dream teams.
What Real Madrid are doing by putting pressure on players to run down their contracts so they can leave for free undermines the whole system. It's an abuse of power and position.
While not breaking any rules or laws of the game, it is morally corrupt and threatens the stability of football.
I understand that the spiralling costs of players is staggering, and becoming a problem within itself. Personally I think this is a bigger issue for the smaller and mid-sized clubs who are being pushed to spend representatively more on players due to the incomes of the elite sides growing at a much quicker rate than the rest of the clubs.
When an elite side has a net income of 500m, then a 100m player represents a 5th (20%) of their income. Yet those clubs just below them might only have a net income of 150m, which means that 100m player represents two thirds of their income (66%) .
That is why the inflated prices impact those clubs outside of the elite teams more than those like Real Madrid.
There needs to be a solution to stop these spiraling costs, but it cannot be by all clubs adopting Real Madrid's current approach as that will lead to the financial collapse of those smaller and mid-sized clubs that prop up the entire football structure.
6.) 22 Jul 2024 10:32:16
Too right Ork. I’m no fan of PSG, but Real have had them right off.
7.) 22 Jul 2024 11:39:31
It's not a new approach, Bayern made a habit of that strategy with Lewandowski, Goertzka, Gnabry and Rudy. Is it morally questionable? Of course. But you also could argue that so are transfer fees in itself. I can potentially see a day where the 'Bosman' rule gets expanded and fees no longer exist.
I doubt anyone would've complained if it was us that enticed Mbappe, whilst lining up the likes of Yoro and Davies etc for free in future windows. I definitely would've been bragging about that level of influence to my Liverpool friends that's for sure.
8.) 22 Jul 2024 11:45:30
Not Gnabry I'm confused with someone else who I can't remember now.
17 Jul 2022 14:15:08
Question for Ed002 if you're around. Any chance of us making a move for Depay this summer if Ronaldo leaves?
{Ed002's Note - No he is heading elsewhere.}
1.) 17 Jul 2022 16:06:42
Where?
2.) 17 Jul 2022 16:55:07
Looks to maybe be Spurs?
3.) 17 Jul 2022 17:14:28
I would assume Spurs Fireman.
4.) 17 Jul 2022 18:10:12
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5.) 17 Jul 2022 23:41:54
Thanks, Ed. Think he’s ready for the EPL now, so can see him being a bit of a bargain for somebody. Shame it won’t be us. A front three of Rashford, Sancho, and Depay could be interesting. I’d much rather him than Anthony.
6.) 18 Jul 2022 09:42:13
He’s had two cracks at playing at an elite level with us and Barcelona and been found wanting. Plus the whole circus show that follows him. Not for me.
7.) 18 Jul 2022 13:45:17
If ever there was a player to sign for spurs it's Memphis, dunno why but he is the most spurs like player ever??.
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01 Nov 2026 01:20:52
How Carrick is still at the club is beyond me.
Yes, the players deserve their fair share of criticism (several would never play for the club again, if it were up to me), but Carrick has shown himself to be unfit for the position far too many times over the past few weeks.
Up until recently, I felt quite sorry for him, but after yesterday, he deserves everything he gets.
His job is on the line, yet he picks the exact same players who have underperformed time and time again for him this season, including two have publicly come out and blamed Carrick for the poor results in recent weeks.
Whoever takes over from Carrick needs to start bringing in youth players, because the first-team squad clearly aren't playing for the badge.
1.) 01 Nov 2026 06:30:46
Carrick and his staff have been so inept that the big players have also given up.
We as fans deserve this for what we did to proper managers like amorim.
Carrick was part of the Ole backroom so not surprised the team has no structure, discipline and lack fitness. Forget about tactics and playing for the badge we haven't got the basics down in the first place.
Need to get a proper manager and stabilize the club for the next two seasons and assess where we go from there.
With carrick we are bound for relegation so need to remove him asap.
2.) 01 Nov 2026 08:27:20
I think Bruno looks like he's had enough. He has carried the team for the recent years and it just gets worse. He looked fed up at times yesterday. And I don't think he's the only one.
3.) 01 Nov 2026 11:27:09
Carricks tactics are non existent, his game management woeful and there's no style of play. However his lack of planning is unforgivable, we knew we had extra games yet Pre season was clearly a joke as these players can't cope with the intensity of the league.
How people just gloss over that is crazy. These players aren't great but they weren't prepared properly and that's on carrick.
4.) 01 Nov 2026 11:39:06
Nobody forced him to sign contracts for big money. Just because he doesn't like the job he's still getting paid as are they all.
If you turned up to work and refused to do the bare minimal you would get sacked. What makes some of these idiots better?
23 Oct 2026 00:43:05
Apparently, the club has no intention of punishing Bruno for his comments.
Results and performances on the pitch have been embarrassing for a while now, but for players to come out and criticize the club's management in consecutive weeks only to be back in the starting lineup a few days later is beyond a joke and indicative of just how far standards have slipped over the past decade or so.
SAF would have dropped these players for their poor performances long before we ever got to this point, but if anyone ever pulled anything like this, they'd never play for the club again.
1.) 23 Oct 2026 02:41:00
Terrible but also really does show the mess we are in that players are now coming out and publicly expressing opinions. Something is deeply wrong with the culture.
2.) 23 Oct 2026 03:39:18
Carrick is a problem, but Bruno is also a huge problem.
I am personally tired of seeing Bruno, maguire and shaw season after season after season.
I feel we play better as a team without Bruno. And was personally happy carrick subbed him.
If I was carrick I'd sub Bruno at half time or 30 mins the next game. The guy always cries let him cry more.
I'd give carrick more time and stop playing Bruno if he knows better than the manager. I do not think lacey would be worse than our current forwards.
What is up with Cunha and Carrick?
Zirkzee as a striker looks miles better than our false 9s. I agree that he's not the best player out there, but I'd personally give the guy a run of 4-5 games to get into some rhythm or momentum.
3.) 23 Oct 2026 05:07:18
I think Bruno has become a problem rather than always being one. The state of the club has broken him I feel and the perpetual promises of an improved team around him have finally taken their toll.
The problem is that the clear out has never really happened and now we are faced with shifting pretty much a whole team.
2028 is a pipe dream as were the many mentioned 2-3 year plans that people clung onto.
It's a cluster of the biggest variety.
4.) 23 Oct 2026 05:57:39
People talk about the state of the club, but for me, the biggest problem is the dressing room culture.
Players are not prepared to fight for the badge. They don't run, and the second things start going against them they throw in the towel. Now, they're publicly blaming the management and owners rather than taking some accountability for their god awful performances.
Don't get me wrong, I know that the owners are leeches, and I don't think that Carrick has what it takes to be a top Premier League manager. But these players have no pride, no passion, and no hope in hell of winning anything unless there's a drastic attitude adjustment.
Carrick and the club need to be stronger. Allowing players to make comments like the ones we've heard over the past week or so is about as spineless as it gets. They may as well be agreeing with them.
If it were me, I'd get rid of the lot of them and play the under 21s instead. They might get us relegated, but at least they'd play for the badge.
5.) 23 Oct 2026 08:03:16
Surely they have to punish him in some form?? They fined Martinez the week before for the same thing? Or does it only count when u call out Wilcox?!
6.) 23 Oct 2026 17:04:37
I remember RvN last season at the club. Louis Saha was chosen to play over him, as the team played better with Saha up top, rather than RvN.
The team played better football, as opposed to directly playing to RvN, becoming predictable. The summer transfer window opened up, United sold RvN. I great player, but his time was up.
Every club need to make those difficult choices. Imagine if Bruno sold last summer. The club could have bought 2-3 new players.
29 Aug 2026 02:26:23
Is it worth a cheeky bid for Alvarez? I feel like he might be interested in signing for us if we agree to a release clause for the amount we pay for him that becomes active after one or two seasons.
He (eventually) gets his dream move, we get a top striker for a season or two.
Unlikely they’d accept, but we could offer Rashford as part of the deal. He might like the idea of proving Barcelona wrong, and Atletico may be interested in helping him to do it, given the current animosity between the clubs.
1.) 29 Aug 2026 09:54:09
redseven
The parasite owners would have a fit if a £120m player was even considered, he could not be considered a bargain, not least because dividends would suffer. Remember, who our owners are so, it's all about the P&L, so totally ruled out.
Osimhen is cheaper but there is no chance. Mateta but if I recall he couldn't pass a medical.
2.) 29 Aug 2026 12:12:55
You're probably right, Red Man. Then again, if the plan is to sell him for what we paid for him in 12 months time, it's basically a free loan deal. If he can help us go on a bit of a run in the Champions League and do well enough in the league to qualify for next season's competition, there'd be financial incentive to bring him in as well.
We need another striker.
3.) 29 Aug 2026 13:54:08
Alvarez would be a dream signing, but we don't make them; we shop at Lidl or Aldi. So there is little chance of us buying Alvarez, or even considering anyone of that quality. We now go for mid-table players.
4.) 29 Aug 2026 14:09:31
Dividends haven't been paid in 4 years, and they will continue not be paid while the company continues to be unprofitable. Nor do we know what the dividend policy will be if and when the club does start making profits. There are accumulated losses of £375m over the last 5 years to make up for. There may be an agreement between the Glazers and Ineos to reduce debt before dividends are paid. They may be looking towards cash accumulation to facilitate the new stadium.
Besides the ego boost of owning a major sports team, every owner is in it to make money, either through income or capital appreciation.
The issue for fans should not be whether the owners make money, but whether they run the club competently and get results on the field in keeping with or above expectations. I don't resent the Glazers for making money. It's the total mismanagement by their appointees that pisses me off. If the club had been well run, and we'd continued to win titles, the fans would be happy, and we would not be suffering from the same levels of debt. No one, maybe not even you, would care if they were taking dividends.
5.) 29 Aug 2026 15:17:07
But why would Alvarez want to join United when he has Arsenal and Barca after him? Both offer him the immediate chance of winning the league and/or Champions League.
I think he will probably end up at Arsenal.
6.) 29 Aug 2026 15:59:24
Newname
Dividends can't legally be paid where there have been losses over a certain period. The point is, if the owners want dividends, they will set that as a requirement for the football side to make profits. That may well cause what we are seeing.
7.) 29 Aug 2026 16:30:44
Fallguy, Atletico are refusing to deal with Barcelona, which is where he has his heart set on going. If he goes to Arsenal, the chances of them selling him within the next two or three seasons are very slim, and so he'd effectively be closing the door on his dream move.
If we offered him a reasonable release clause that was active from next summer and a decent wage, he might just go for it. Sure, it's a long shot, but stranger things have happened in football.
8.) 29 Aug 2026 16:53:04
It's amazing how short some fans' memories are. Complaining that we aren't going out and spending the big bucks on the big name players like we have done over the past decade to great success.
Sanchez, Di Maria, Pogba, Sancho, Lukaku, even Casemiro. You can go back further with Veron.
We've had soooo much success when we've paid huge fees for fancy big names. I'm not sure why on earth the club would diverge from that strategy. ?♂️
Alvarez is a great player, no doubt, I'm not entirely sold on him being the right kind of striker for us. Either way, that's kind of irrelevant, seeing as we won't be buying him.
How many of the great signings that we have made were genuinely considered to be one of the best players in the world in their position at the time we signed them?
How many fans were taking the "Red Man" stance when we replaced a club legend in Beckham with a spotty Portuguese teenager for a mere 12m.
Yet fast forward a few years and he was without doubt the best player we ever signed.
Or the signing of Cantona, hardly a massive fee on a top class player, yet he became a catalyst for our success in the 90's.
What about Schmeichel or Irwin, or Vidic or Evra?
Our best signings, our most influential, our most successful ones have nearly always (around 95%) been either younger hungrier players, or overlooked players. Every time it's when we sign a player who has everything to prove.
Whereas, when we have signed the big name, experienced, established players, more often than not they have flopped. Or, at the very least, not lived up to expectations.
We are a club that had historically made great players, not just assembled them. Both through our academy (which is probably only behind Barcelona and Ajax, amongst the European elite), or when we have signed younger players and turned them into world stars.
9.) 29 Aug 2026 17:29:14
Rio?
Rooney?
10.) 29 Aug 2026 17:45:52
Shappy,
How do you know what "my stance" was when we replaced Beckham with a spotty Portuguese teenager for a mere 12m?
I was at his debut and utterly blown away, then defended him from those who said he was a one trick pony.
I remember the day they signed Cantona and actually was blown away with it because we knew how good he was. Over a £1m was a lot then.
I was at the game when Robson signed on the pitch, we knew how good he was. Was £1.5m a small fee then?
I have watched United sign players for nearly 60 years, so don't try to lecture me on players signing.
I remember Ted McDougal, equally a cheap option. Yet you miss how we bought Pallister, Keane, RvN, Rooney, Rio. Did they not meet expectations, were they "often more than not flopped"? Inconvenient for you they needed prizing out of clubs, they weren't youth assembled like you said. They were likely record, or close to record, signings. Now you excuse the owners to suit your narrative.
You can defend the parasite owners as much as you want, but this is about ensuring the club buy the quality needed to compete. It's being hampered by the Glazers no matter how you write about it.
11.) 29 Aug 2026 17:49:49
Sadly £80-100m in 2026 is not really paying top price for the world's best. It's the going rate for top level sides and players.
If Morgan Rogers is over £100m, just imagine what a true world-class player like Mbappe would be worth in this current market.
If you don't want to spend that, and you don't want to go over around £60m, you are stuck buying average players. They might improve, but probably not.
Or you are taking a gamble on an unknown youngster.
United are now caught in a tough place. They can't do what Brighton or Brentford do, and buy relatively unknown players for lower fees and give them time to improve. And they aren't willing, or can't afford, to buy the best available. So they end up buying players other teams don't want, or someone looking for one last pay day.
12.) 29 Aug 2026 19:36:52
Just because we spent big sums on the wrong players does not mean that you should not spend big sums.
Rice and Harland have been pretty good signings.
What about VVD? How about Rio, Rooney, Andy Cole, Van Nistlerooy, Van Persie, Cantona?
We are so obsessed with the problem being the big sums, rather than the problem being the identification of the right players.
Sometimes you buy cheap and buy twice!
13.) 29 Aug 2026 19:48:16
Kane 100m to Munich seemed good business.
Rice 100m to Arsenal.
Let’s talk about us though.
Keane to us.
Rio.
RvN.
RVP.
Berbatov.
The list is endless.
Yes, some duds, but on the whole we still won things. Now we are signing the likes of Tielemans and Santos and Baleba, let’s have a reality check here. These are mid-table players and will never ever get us back to where United needs to be…
Don’t mean to say cos over 12 years we made some poor big signings we should never make a big signing again. If the player is right, then we should buy, no matter the cost, unless of course you want to finish mid table you buy mid-table players.
Is Tielemans ever going to get any better? I doubt it, as he won much, no. Santos, Baleba, Sesko, it’s ok to take a gamble on potential, but not have a team full of cross-your-fingers potential; that’s a recipe for disaster.
In my view, it’s been a terrible window so far. Yes, we added bodies, but are they seriously what was required, and does anyone honestly think that these players added are going to get us back to the top or anywhere near? Are they any better than what we even had? And we did not have much.
It comes to something when a United supporter gets excited about Santos and Tielemans.
14.) 30 Aug 2026 00:28:14
Jsu, what do you mean with "mid-table players"? What makes them mid table players? And who would you have bought?
18 Aug 2026 15:47:12
We started the 2022-2023 season with a back four of Shaw, Martinez, Maguire, and Dalot. Four years and 205 league goals conceded later, we look set to start the 2026-2027 season with the same four players.
I know we've signed a few additional defenders over that four year period, but there's something about this fact that's a little depressing. None of them are good enough for a team with title winning aspirations.
1.) 18 Aug 2026 17:01:11
Maguire is a steady Eddie, but he's getting on a bit. Decent squad player and has proved so in the past. Shaw... can't believe he's still our no1, same for Dalot. As for Martinez, after a good first half to his first season, he hasn't been the same.
Injuries seem to have taken something away from him. Hopefully Yoro and Heaven can kick on, and we can transition to them moving forward. Fullbacks... who knows, but we need an upgrade there for sure.
2.) 18 Aug 2026 17:17:46
Further to that, redseven, Shaw, Maguire, Dalot were 3 of the 4 from Ole's time in 2020, which is worse.
Also, the fact that we could potentially have 5 players starting from then with Rashford and Bruno.
3.) 18 Aug 2026 20:00:42
It was stats that we needed to overhaul both midfield and defence... but there was an argument that the defence would be ok for another year. I definitely doubted that would be how it viewed come this time of the season, and, well... here we are.
We needed to be ruthless, and we bottled it.
We needed a full purge of the players that are not bought into the task.
Maybe those defenders mentioned are fully committed and that's why they are still here? The season is upon us, we are hopefully going to come out of the blocks and stake a claim for the title. Time will tell.
4.) 18 Aug 2026 20:23:34
If Martinez stays fit, and I know it's a big if, he is a very good defender.
One of the few we have that can bring the ball out from the back as well.
He's up there with Mount for me, in that if he stays injury-free, he's a big plus for the team.
5.) 18 Aug 2026 20:29:49
He played well for Argentina. I don't know why Utd didn't try to buy Romero. Yes, a madman, but a real warrior and aggressive defender.
6.) 18 Aug 2026 21:20:21
Criminal that back 4 if it starts like that.
It's actually criminal that our lb is still Luke Shaw.
7.) 18 Aug 2026 21:34:11
Jose had him pinned years ago.
8.) 18 Aug 2026 21:44:14
Oh yeah, but people on here called Jose out for bullying him. ??
But Jose bought Dalot. Not sure I can forgive him for that.
As for Maguire, he is slower than Redman would be to give a Glazer the kiss of life.
All the above are average Joe's or below.
Martinez had a great attitude, but is too small for the EPL, and has been exposed for that dozens of times over the past 4 years.
9.) 18 Aug 2026 21:52:03
More criminal is that, seeing as we have no money, we didn't go for Senesi.
10.) 18 Aug 2026 22:44:35
Martinez has played well against Haaland, so not been bullied that much. A lot of our conceded goals come from poor FB play and midfielders not tracking runners.
I think Heaven will have a breakout season this year.
He looks a top player, but needs an experienced leader next to him. I would go with him, and then rotate the experienced guys next to him. Yoro can back up Heaven.
11.) 18 Aug 2026 23:25:38
Crikey almighty, who said he got bullied? His lack of height gets exposed a lot, and if you can't see that, then I'm not sure what you're looking at, DB.
He doesn't get bullied, and has done OK v Haaland in the four games they started against each other. He shut him out twice, conceded one in one game, and a 6-3 v City when Haaland got a hat trick, so a bit mixed.
He copes well with his lack of inches in the main, and is a very good defender, but gets exposed a couple of times in every game. He then throws himself into challenges, writing checks his body can't cash.
I love his attitude, but he can't stay fit. And, when he is, there are still some big negatives that negate a lot of his positives, imo, sadly.
12.) 19 Aug 2026 09:51:42
Both Dodgy and Ken have valid points. He has often been left exposed by poor full backs. One thing he doesn't have is pace, but if our midfield is a good one, that will matter less.
I would play Martinez in front of the back four
and push Santos further forward if we don't get another midfielder. He is tenacious, a good tackler, and good at passing.
26 Jun 2026 22:57:40
With the ongoing issues at CB and Reece James now injured too (who could have seen that coming?), it’s starting to look as though Tuchel’s anti-United stance could come back to bite him in the ass. I’m not sure what went down when we spoke with him about taking over from Ten Haag, but clearly something that INEOS said rubbed him up the wrong way.
That Shaw and Maguire (especially after Livramento pulled out) weren’t on the plane is crazy. Both had good seasons, and both always turn up for England.
1.) 27 Jun 2026 00:00:14
What anti-United stance? It was hardly a given that Shaw or Maguire would be chosen - though I expected Shaw to be taken. Choosing both Maguire and Stones would have been highly risky and Maguire's main role would be for chasing late goals.
Tuchel chose Mainoo, for instance, and, though I think Mainoo should be starting, never mind just be in the squad, that was hardly a definite either.
2.) 27 Jun 2026 02:54:52
England were slow and ponderous in their last game. They would have been in stasis if Maguire was on the park.
3.) 27 Jun 2026 03:45:45
Mainoo has played zero minutes so far. Rashford only got seven minutes against Ghana despite looking decent off the bench in the first game. Shaw (arguably the best English left back right now) and Maguire (still a solid center back, and an excellent option from the bench if you're chasing a goal) didn't even make the squad, while Henderson (who's seemingly only there in some sort of cheerleading capacity) does?
It certainly feels like Tuchel has an issue with the club and/or its players to me.
4.) 27 Jun 2026 07:38:07
The full back selections were poor.
To be fair to Shaw, he earned the right to go. And not picking Trent, who can play RB and midfield, felt stupid.
25 Oct 2026 10:54:20
Emery is one of the best managers in the league, but he would fail with the current structure. The only managers I could see being able to work with Wilcox are Southgate and Howe, though I'm not convinced that either has what it takes to succeed at Manchester United.
If/when the club decides that Carrick isn't the right man for the job then Wilcox should go with him, and we should replace him with a Director of Football who actually knows what they're doing. If it were me, I'd bring Ragnick back, but I can't see the club being open to rehiring somebody a outspoken as he was, and even if they were, his pride may prevent him from accepting.
23 Oct 2026 05:48:16
Not replacing Casemiro was the club's biggest mistake.
That should have been the number one priority this summer, followed by an understudy for Bruno, a backup striker, and two new fullbacks.
But of course, the owners never invest when we've secured Champion's League football, so is anybody really that surprised?
14 Oct 2026 01:39:42
Padding the squad out with players who aren't good enough to drive us forward is not the answer, H94. I'd much rather have signed a proper Cas replacement and then given the other two spots in the squad to youth players.
All that said, I think it's a little too early to be writing off our summer signings. Baleba has barely played. Tielemans is a good squad player, but I don't think we'll ever see the best of him playing alongside Bruno and Mainoo.
Santos confuses me. Carrick clearly doesn't rate him, which for a £50m signing is a little worrying. Then again, he doesn't seem to fancy Yoro either, and he cost even more. Maybe both will come good in the future, but we need players who are ready to step up now, or enough quality in the squad to be able to ease these players in without team performances taking a nosedive (kind of like we did with the Class of 92).
22 Sep 2026 05:46:03
While I agree that we need to fix the leaky roof before changing the carpet, MC has to take some of the blame. Amorim built up fitness levels throughout the squad. We've become lazy and out of shape since he left. It's not good enough.
21 Sep 2026 08:42:16
Yup. At this point, Wilcox out is the only logical play.
25 Oct 2026 01:57:53
The next few matches will determine whether Carrick stays or goes before Christmas. If he's smart, he'll drop the two players who have publicly made it clear that they don't think he's the right man for the job and any who may have have done so behind the scenes.
I fully expect both to start, and for Carrick to be sacked after a convincing 3-0 loss.
24 Oct 2026 10:54:36
Have to agree here. I'm all for backing the manager, but only if the manager has shown themselves to be worth backing. For me, the only managers we've had who've come close to doing that since SAF left are Mourinho and Amorim.
Yes, we need to get rid of Wilcox (and in an ideal world, the owners along with him), but their incompetence doesn't mean that we should keep a manager who's clearly out of his depth.
23 Oct 2026 05:57:39
People talk about the state of the club, but for me, the biggest problem is the dressing room culture.
Players are not prepared to fight for the badge. They don't run, and the second things start going against them they throw in the towel. Now, they're publicly blaming the management and owners rather than taking some accountability for their god awful performances.
Don't get me wrong, I know that the owners are leeches, and I don't think that Carrick has what it takes to be a top Premier League manager. But these players have no pride, no passion, and no hope in hell of winning anything unless there's a drastic attitude adjustment.
Carrick and the club need to be stronger. Allowing players to make comments like the ones we've heard over the past week or so is about as spineless as it gets. They may as well be agreeing with them.
If it were me, I'd get rid of the lot of them and play the under 21s instead. They might get us relegated, but at least they'd play for the badge.
14 Oct 2026 22:28:23
Publicly calling out your superiors can only ever end one way. But I suppose you're right, Johnreese. Carrick is as good as gone anyway. If he really cares about the club, contributing toward Wilcox's departure is about the best thing he can do for it at this point.
14 Oct 2026 22:22:42
I saw this clip in my feed earlier.
Hard to tell what’s more worrying: that Martinez thinks that a season in which the players got yet another manager sacked and were a million miles away from winning the league is a great one, or that most fans (myself included) blindly accept this when he says it.
As you say, REDCON, standards really have fallen. We’ve become like Arsenal during Wenger’s last few years at the club, celebrating mediocrity because it’s better than the dog s**** we know this team is capable of serving up.