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25 Jan 2022 04:54:56
Martial leaves on loan to Sevilla till season end.

rohanarora8

1.) 25 Jan 2022 06:47:05
Good riddance to the lazy sulking tit.


2.) 25 Jan 2022 07:50:47
He's had a few good games but overall has been a disappointed after having a pretty good first season.
Whenever a new striker was signed he absolutely forgot to play.
Struggles when there is competition for places.
Sevilla would definitely get a very good player. Hopefully that means the likes of amad will get more mins till season end.


3.) 25 Jan 2022 08:25:28
Hopefully he plays really well and a few teams want to buy him.


4.) 25 Jan 2022 09:06:27
Mostly has himself to blame for lack of impact at United.

How often did he really skin a full back or a Centre half, rarely won headers . never really made dangerous runs, defenders didn't have to woryy about him ghosting in behind and as a defender you knew if you shut him out for 60 minutes his head would drop.

Decent player in there as we saw in flashes but very little desire or heart in him . I laughed when I saw him linked with Newcastle if he won't try for a team with aspirations to win the PL or even get in top 4 he isn't going to bother his ar*e in a relegation scrap in the cold north east.


5.) 25 Jan 2022 12:16:44
Martial co. plwtwly lacks any of the mental requirements of football, he does not like being a footballer and he really is not a very well developed adult or human being. Havibg him and Pogbae and Lingaard out of the dressing room will remove the bad attitude, deluded attitude (all talk no action) and maturity, Lingwood still acts like a 15 year old, some toxic interdependencies. For reference, look at Ozil (idle and attitude problem) and Aunameyang and Benguozi as the immature one, sold and frozen out and now allowing a coach to impose his values and behaviours on a dressing room that knows he is not messing about.

I do worry about whether Poccetino would impose the discipline this squad needs, I am hoping RR as Director of Football maintains that role, I am still a but unsure about Poccetino but then, I was wrong about Ole who role his own self I. posed rules whilst caretaker manager after 2 years in the job, so everything is a coin flip. Everyone rabbits on about Klopp and Guardioa know in satellite tones, but frankly Klopp was being mocked for being a serial laser of finals until the Champions League where they were somewhat lucky Tottenham blinked, and Guardioa was being reported as questionable as whilst he won the Title with Bayern he wasn't delivering the Champions League and he couldn't be seen as a great manager. That was 5 years ago now apparently they walk on water. The funny old game where people are 2020 hindsight magicians.


6.) 25 Jan 2022 13:29:44
difference with poch and the other managers cheshire is that they are actual managers with proper coaches. ole was not

look at spurs I would say they had discipline when poch was there, then Jose came in and it went to pot, now conte seems to be sorting that mess out.

i think with RR working in his role we will no longer see those types of players bought or kept on well past there sell by date.

any player with poor attitude just get rid.


7.) 25 Jan 2022 14:46:35
I would say if RR is in a consultancy role with a bit of clout then Poch or anyone else should do quite well.

Managers in recent times had no football minded allies in upper management, Poch having a problem with a player could result in having a chat with RR and deciding to get rid. as up til now why upset a player who has millions of Instagram followers or sells x amount shirts - or at least that's how it often looks.


8.) 25 Jan 2022 20:52:17
You may be right gents. I hope so.


 

 

09 Dec 2019 18:39:19
Someone on suggested that we sell Pogba to real Madrid for some money and ask for Martin odegaard in return.

Would you be open to that?
Odegaard is Norwegian and from what I've heard he's been carrying sociedad team.

I'm tired of Pogba
either being injured, posting useless posts saying they'll come back stronger, misplace 100s of passes, or his agent dropping stories of him leaving.

He hasn't worked out for quite a few years now, and maybe he is more suited to a league like Madrid and probably more happy with more money, better city and a paparazzi club.

I would love to take odegaard of Madrid's hands.

Ideally if we sign replacements and let Pogba, Matic, Mata, Jones, Rojo and Sanchez out and get 3-4 quality players with Smalling back in the squad it would help us a lot in terms of getting all the overpaid/ average lot out.

I would still keep Ashley young for 1 more season as he has a better fitness record than all of our fullbacks.
Plus he seems like a good professional who might have 1 last season left in him for 7-8 games in Europa league.
Shaw will stay because he's British.
Laird, Dalot more involved.

rohanarora8

{Ed002's Note - No that is not the plan.}


1.) 09 Dec 2019 19:23:42
To be honest I think Odegaard is why Madrid are backing away from Pogba. They have done good young talent at Madrid, a few out on loan. Maybe it'll end in tears because its Madrid but they do have some seriously good prospects.


2.) 09 Dec 2019 19:39:19
but does odegaard get shirt sales?


3.) 09 Dec 2019 19:23:17
Thanks Ed. could you tell us what's planned then? Appreciate as always.


4.) 09 Dec 2019 23:18:34
The plan is for them to offer us cash plus players bbs


The ed did a post not long ago


Off the top off my head it was kroos bale james isco.


Cant remember who else.


5.) 09 Dec 2019 23:30:13
Ed002 as i was reading down the OP
i was wondering)
1 if you would reply
2 how short the reply would be
3 would i laugh
2 outta 3 ain't bad.
On a serious note i think you have said there will be a bid from juve with players plus fee.
Do you think madrid will also bid in jan.
And do you know if united hold an interest in any of the players that may possibly be offered by either club?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question, plain English works best.}


6.) 10 Dec 2019 09:43:35
I would personally steer clear of player like Odegaard, he has found his level at Sociedad, very similar to Zaha playing for Crystal Palace and doing just fine.

Pogba is a luxury that we cannot afford now, but saying he is all negative is a bit harsh. Without him we still lack any creativity in midfield which is evident when we play teams that sit back and defend, nobody knows if he really a bad influence in the dressing room or its just bad press majority of the time.

As for his injuries, it happens to all the players, what will you call Martial then?

{Ed047's Note - the problem with Pogba is he rarely shows up, maybe like Odegaard his true level is Italy or Spain and the Premier League is just too much for him.

You need a midfielder who turns up every game and given the opportunity I’d swap him out for any of City’s midfielders and most of Liverpool’s.

He really is a waste of a shirt for you guys. What will you honestly miss about him when he’s gone. He hung of better players coat tails in winning in Italy and for France.


7.) 10 Dec 2019 10:11:31
He is decent whenever he plays, inconsistent but he is the best creative midfielder we have. let's see how he does not when we have our fully functioning front 3.
13 goals 9 assists last season for a midfielder is just too good, dare someone says most of them were penalties as for UTD players even taking penalties is a huge task.
Also unless we have a very good replacement lined up i don't think we should get rid of him.


8.) 10 Dec 2019 10:48:20
becks you must see something i dont. i just see a half arsed player who thinks he is better than he is.


9.) 10 Dec 2019 11:37:30
That half arsed guy has been more creative than any other full arsed player tbh. But again if we get a quality replacement i am fine with him leaving. Madison being the first choice.


10.) 10 Dec 2019 14:05:07
Pretty sure half of pogba goals for us have been penalties last season.


11.) 10 Dec 2019 15:43:22
This is what happens when you skip a few posts.


12.) 10 Dec 2019 22:03:51
Red whiskey😂😂 quality.


13.) 12 Dec 2019 18:51:08
Odegaard hasn't been good since FM15.


 

 

11 Apr 2017 08:41:04
We've let a lot of decent players leave and replaced with lesser quality players. I think Zaha is a brilliant dribbler, a typical SAF winger, but is his crossing upto the mark?
Does he want to move again to United and play under Jose who doesn't play youth very much.
I think he'll leave for Spurs, Liverpool, City than us.

rohanarora8

1.) 11 Apr 2017 10:31:59
MOTD Fever, Rohan? Your first line reads "decent players leave and replaced with lesse quality" and then you add on to say Zaha. Is he really United standard? Here we are, talking of players like Sanchez/ Griezmann/ Belotti etc. Why would you want Zaha anywhere near the team?


2.) 11 Apr 2017 11:19:41
Yh zaha very inconsistent on his day he's unbelievable but nowhere near good enough.


3.) 11 Apr 2017 22:28:08
Zaha? Really? I'm speechless.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes talented eric, i know it never worked out for him at united but feel that was more to do with walloping moyes,s daughter than football ability mate.. :)


4.) 12 Apr 2017 12:24:11
I'm not saying per say we should sign him.


5.) 12 Apr 2017 23:28:27
Ha - good point Ed. There was always that rumour flying around.


 

 

17 Mar 2017 16:01:32
Youri Tielemans to play at OT.
Yes. Anderlecht vs United in the Europa league.
Ronnie must be the most pleased of all and finally we all posters get to see what the deal is about that guy.
PS Herrera in his post match said that Pogba wasn't that badly injured.

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14 Mar 2017 17:34:06
Looking at the last 16 and the possible 8, when we qualify for the quarter finals in the Europa league.
There aren't any clubs that strike fear and looks as favourites.
The only sides I see as threatening are Celta da Vigo, Lyon and Roma.
Celts because they have been terrific in cup competitions and knock Madrid out in 2 legs.

One of Lyon and Roma will progress and both of them are free scorers.
Nobody apart from that. I fancy us beating Besiktas, Anderlecht etc.
Personally I'd love a tie against Anderlecht and see wtf is Youri Tielemans about if we progress.

rohanarora8

1.) 15 Mar 2017 08:10:32
When? I wouldn't back us to beat anybody at the moment. I think "if" was the word you were looking for.


2.) 16 Mar 2017 22:23:16
I want Lyon or Schalke get them out of the way. I do not fear anyone in this competition. You have to beat the best to win!


 

 

 

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24 May 2022 09:35:41
What are your thoughts about Steve McLaren as a coach?
I was pretty young and didn't even watch football when he coached here.
All the limelight has been on ETH but I think the coaches are equally as important.
From what I know he played England in a back 5 and saw him in a couple of post match analysis here and there.
Seems to be a knowledgeable guy who is comfortable to tweak formations, looks like a football philosophy guy (LVG like)

What are your 2 cents on him since I've never experienced him up close as a manager or coach?
Maybe a little about the time when he was a coach here?

He might be the person to bridge the gap between English and Dutch and seems like higher quality addition than what we've been used to previously.

Thanks.

rohanarora8

1.) 24 May 2022 09:51:27
He was a very good coach at United and I think we won the league in the 3 seasons he was here, including the end of treble winning season. He then actually translated that into being a decent manager, going to Middlesbrough and I believe winning the UEFA cup whilst there which is some achievement. This then gave him the England job where he wasn’t the first to fail but fail he did, not qualifying for Euro 2008. Like Graham Taylor before him he was then savaged by the media, called the ‘Wally with a brolly’ and the public perception of him was that he was useless.

Since then he has been and managed abroad and in the championship and had varying degrees of success, but he never really recovered in some people’s eyes from the England failure. I agree he is a good coach to bring in at this time, much better experience and cv than the coaches we have had previously, fingers crossed we haven’t got it wrong again.


2.) 24 May 2022 11:32:27
Very good coach and manager. Did very well. Success with Middlesborough and Twente? Brilliant achievements.

Media savaged him and ruined him. But that's what the crappy english media do.


3.) 24 May 2022 11:47:56
Didn’t like David Beckham, he bombed him out of the England squad and then paid for it when they failed to qualify for Euro 2008.


4.) 24 May 2022 11:49:44
Thanks GDS2, if he is one of coaches during the treble time, seems like a good appointment.
We actually get a coach rather than players who were good players and not coaches in any form.
England job is hard for any manager.


5.) 24 May 2022 12:50:52
He won the Dutch league with FC Twente which is not too shoddy given that it's usually dominated by Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord. Developed a great Dutch accent whilst speaking English.


6.) 24 May 2022 16:30:26
FZZ was Beckham not playing in the MLS at the time?


7.) 24 May 2022 17:01:38
Excellent coach, and very capable manager.

Never fully recovered from the media assassination after losing the England job.

To be successful in football management in England at least is to have an odd mix of actual ability AND perceived ability.

You can be good enough, but if the perception is that you aren't good enough or there are doubts about your management then that often undermines all the good you do and ultimately leads to you failing.

Every manager has set backs, and poor results or even the occasional poor run of form. However, if the perception is that you have failed or flopped previously (whether that's, fair or accurate or not), then the moment you have a little dip then the media starts up with the "here we go, he's failing again" and that creeps into the players minds and it often goes down hill from there.

Ultimately once the media in the UK have decided you are a flop it's very hard to rebuild your career after that. You are undermined at every turn.

McClaren was fantastic as Sir Alex's No.2 and will probably go down as one of his best assistant coaches along with Brian Kidd and Carlos Queiroz. He was a key coach in the treble. Won the UEFA cup with Middlesbrough, and won the league in the Eredivisie with FC Twente (with EtH as his assistant) .

So he knows how to coach players, he knows the English game, he speaks Dutch and he knows and has worked well with EtH in the past. He also has knowledge of Manchester United and the inner workings of the club, and how the UK media are with the club.

For me he's a perfect appointment to the coaching staff to aide EtH as he settles into his new job.


8.) 24 May 2022 21:11:48
If we don't keep Phelan who is going to teach our lads to hoof it?


9.) 25 May 2022 00:44:05
So long as he’s there to help ETH and not just to report back to Fergie then he could be an exshellent addition to the coaching team.


 

 

08 May 2022 11:54:05
I can understand the things Rangnick says about signings, the players and all the other stuff that we know is broken.
What I didn't get before and still don't today is why is he playing these players?
Brighton is not Chelsea,
managers in the past Ole and Giggs have used these meaningless games to play 3-4 players who are on the cusp of first team football.

Why did I see Matic start who has pretty told he's leaving, ideally if someone is so public a month before the season ended he should be frozen out and given a holiday than player again and again. What's the point of playing Matic if he is MOTM?

Why is Mata starting ahead of a Garnacho or Mejbri?

If it's true that Mejbri has been demoted because he was needlessly physical in the Liverpool game, you're kidding me Ralf, that was a dead game and the lad was so frustrated and showed the passion that's need for these derby games. Maybe you Germans don't do it like this but the PL is a physical game. What has Bruno done the past 6 months, he looks like a fool anyway talking gibberish rather than playing?

Why is Lingard on the bench? Why are we filling spaces?

How is telles a regular starter when there hasn't been a single game where he has shown he could actually defend, apart from his left foot he's much worse than Brandon Williams. Why couldn't Fernandez not start this?

Why is Cavani on the bench when he says he was not happy with Ronaldo joining?

Rangnick has done what any other weak manager would have done, played those players who should have played. There have been 1-2 changes with rashford and AWB but rest the squad has stayed the same.

He talks like a revolutionary in the pressers but keeps doing what Ole or LVG would have done.

I'll play the U23s just to make a mockery of some of those lads pulling up this shirt.

I really hope none of these players currently at United are here after 2 years.

We need a massive clearout including Fred and McTom who are new Anderson and Cleverley just a bit more fit. Heck even Anderson and Cleverley dominated a few games.

rohanarora8

1.) 08 May 2022 13:18:04
There could be a couple of reasons.

First the youth cup final is coming up and after all the work those young lads have done to get there they deserve to focus on that.

Second, if he sent out a team of kids and they got spanked because they aren't ready to compete at this level without a group of players around them who are able to compete at this level then that could adversely effect them. While we know the media likes hyperbole and they are likely to bring up a thrashing every time any of those kids play again.

They deserve to be blooded in fairly and when they are ready in a way that best suits there individual development. Just chucking them is as a f**k you to the first team players is very shortsighted and not in the young players best interests or the best interest of the club moving forward.

Finally picking players from the first team squad under such circumstances exposes them for who they are, and makes clear to both the fans and the club just how big of a rebuild is needed.

As fans it sucks, but we all know we aren't going to see anything great between now and the end of the season. If we choose to watch what we know will be crap then we have to accept that we will be served up rubbish with a side cowardice.

We all know what we are going to see from this group of players this season. We'll be every bit as crap against Palace, we all know it. So let's not throw out toys out the pram when it happens.


2.) 08 May 2022 13:32:51
They can't even get a 20 min sub appearance?
I disagree with all of this that we need the right time for them to come in and play.
We are not going to be a club where the first teamers are going to support the young player for next 2-3 years anyway.
If they are not good enough to be first teamers when played a few games and don't think that are good enough break into the first team at 19 it's very likely they never will.

Isn't the youth team there a pathway to the first team?
Or we are so desperate we'd rather win a youth cup that has no value at all, than play a first team game in PL.


3.) 08 May 2022 13:33:51
Totally agree with you there Shappy.


4.) 08 May 2022 14:10:04
It's tempting to suggest but I have to agree with Shappy. There's little point in exposing them to a potential disaster. How could they possibly show themselves well when we're 4-0 down. They need to be blooded in when we have a new manager who knows how to develop youth players at the right pace. Look how City have managed Foden who arguably showed himself to be more talented than any of our youngsters. Patience.

And Telles has to be the worst defender I've ever seen wearing a United shirt. His straight up in the air defensive header led to yesterday's first and a scuffed header led to the second.


5.) 08 May 2022 14:25:38
Tell those young lads Rohan that the youth cup has no value! Ridiculous.


6.) 08 May 2022 18:15:32
The Youth Cup has no value?! You obviously don’t understand the traditions of our Club. Tell that to the young players or the 60 000 watching them play on Wednesday night.

There young lads need to be protected, nurtured and developed not thrown to the wolves in a toxic dressing that only care about self preservation.

Hopefully they win the cup and show the charlatans in the first team we’ve got some proper talent ready to take their place when the time is right.


7.) 08 May 2022 18:17:34
I think Mejbri learns more by have some actual coaching. Explaining to him that he needs to keep his head and show controlled aggression. Then give him another sub appearance and see if he listens and learns.

I think the whole club has thrown in the towel for this season. That includes Ralf. Cannot wait till the reset button is pressed. I hope the club can shift some of these chances on.


8.) 08 May 2022 21:46:45
I'm sorry, what's all this rubbish about not exposing these 18-20 Yr players to some proper football and getting them to get some experience? They need to be thrown in at the deep end and finding out if they can handle the pressure, just like the Busby Babes and Class of 92 did.
If they're going to make it, then Brighton is the perfect game to put them in. This club and it's manager and some supporters have gone soft.


9.) 08 May 2022 23:38:18
AAA, pull your head out your back passage.

The Busby babes made their debuts in a totally different era. Football wasn't the global phenomenon it is now.

As for the class of 92, Sir Alex didn't just play 11 kids just thrown in. There was older class players with experience dotted throughout the team to guide and help them as they settled. While a lot is made of the class of 92 (and rightly so) it completely skims over the contributions from Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Irwin, Keane, Cantona, Parker, Ince, Robson, Blackmore, McClair etc. Who were all regulars around the time players like Giggs, Beckham, Neville, Scholes and Butt made their debuts.

They had class players with experience around them when they were breaking through.

Who in our current squad can shield and guide the kids like the players who helped the class of 92?

You can't just throw the kids off the cliff. It's unfair and setting them up to fail.

For Scholes, Beckham Giggs and Butt when they were making their debuts they could look around and see players like Robson, Keane and Ince in midfield. Bruce, Pallister and Irwin behind them, Cantona and Hughes ahead of them. Leaders all around them.

Who would the kids have? The chuckle brothers in midfield with Fred and McTominay doing their to me to you passing. Maguire the ringleader of the circus and his clowns in defence.

Where are the leaders, the class players to shoulder the burden and give the kids the conditions they need to play their own game with confidence.


10.) 09 May 2022 11:11:31
I agree 100% with you AAA, we as a club have become soft where we cuddle our players.
Bruno or Maguire or Rashford can give a 2/ 10 performance yet they stay in the lineup next game, because their social media is good or they have a good transfer value.
If they're good enough, they are old enough.
If the young player cannot handle losing a game 4-0 to Brighton and not come back 2 weeks later then I'm sorry he should not be a United player.
All the young player that come up in bottom 10 or maybe 15 in others teams like Brighton have been given the run around and beaten more so often than our youngsters. Yet some of them come out on top even after that and are sold at huge sums.
Grealish was relegated, Andy Robertson was a Hull City player.
You have to play them atleast in these useless games, where there's no pressure to perform and even the fans will get if one of those young lads have a stinker. Imo it's the best to play them under no pressure at all.

As much as Telles struggles at LB do you guys seriously think a young Fernandez would be worse?


11.) 09 May 2022 20:01:45
If a young player goes on the pitch and gives 100%, the fans will get behind them, no matter how bad a day we have.
Remember we applauded off players last week that have put in some of the worst performances I have ever seen from a United team.


 

 

07 May 2022 10:53:26
So Sean Longstaff is out of contract in a month.
2 years back we were in for him, under Ole.
Is he getting signed now ?.

rohanarora8

1.) 07 May 2022 12:46:38
Sign him up! He works hard ????.


 

 

03 May 2022 10:20:04
Proper sendoff, really Lingard?

If you wanted you could have moved your butt off the bench and clapped and moved around gave a lap.
Not getting a game shouldn't restrict in you doing that.

Really really excited and happy to see the back of so many players.

rohanarora8

1.) 03 May 2022 11:26:22
yep, too busy blaming others - Lingard has barely wanted to play football since he came back from WHU -or at least that's how it looked. Time these guys actually had some respect for the fans and the club never mind themselves.


2.) 03 May 2022 11:39:13
If his brother or himself gobbed off to the press or social media like they do today back in Fergie era he’d of been long gone!

That’s what we need at club now, leadership and fear factor! Too many players who are poor let’s be honest are far too big for their boots!

{Ed014's Note - question, do you think Liverpool or City work with a fear factor, isn’t this just harking back so some out dated way of working.

Can you think of any modern day Premier League or even European club that is run with a fear factor.

It’s just an oft repeated load of bollox, like all this crap about getting Roy Keane back on the coaching staff.


3.) 03 May 2022 12:19:01
Ed014, I agree you can't run a Football club through fear anymore. City players don't fear Pep and Liverpool players don't fear Klopp.

These players are multimillionaires with brands, and sponsorship deals, a social media following, and several revenue streams. They hold a lot of power, if they want they can pretty much up sticks and move to another club.

The key to controlling the dressing room was never fear, it was respect.

The Liverpool and City players respect Pep and Klopp, they listen to them and I suspect as managers they explain their actions and what the players need to do, both on and off the pitch.

The problem at United is the players have no respect for the revolving position of manager. They have a thought process of "if this guy doesn't like me and play me then we'll get him binned out the door and maybe the next guy will rate me".

Rather than looking at themselves, at WHY the current manager isn't playing them and what they can do to change that situation.

These players will leak stories to the press and throw the manager under the bus. They are like a dog that has learned to bite when it's unhappy. Sadly, once they learn that it's almost impossible to unlearn it or change that behaviour.

It's why we probably have to even clear out some players who on a technical ability are good enough. It's why we need such a monumental rebuild. Too many players who will blame the manager for their poor performances/ not being picked and would rather bite the manager than roll up their sleeves.

We can't afford to leave those players in the squad. They infect the rest and spread that bad behaviour.

Next season we need strict rules for the players to follow, with swift and harsh retribution for breaking those rules.

You leak stuff to the press, you whinge in public, you try and undermine the manager in anyway shape or form and you are out of the squad. Training on your own until you can be packed off elsewhere when the next transfer window opens.

There may need to be a couple of players who are made example of to keep the rest in line and establish the new regime.

{Ed014's Note - that will likely be the key part from the club and ETH, set out what they want and stick to your guns of getting rid as Ole should have done with at least Martial and Pogba.

It’s a job to know how deep the problem is at United and McTominay probably just skimmed the surface with his interview the other week.


4.) 03 May 2022 12:19:01
Agreed Ed14, i think most people focus on those off the ball aspects too much when they analyse united because those are aspects of the game they can relate to most easily.

Things like passion, desire and work rate are easy sticks to beat this team with because those are the traits that us as fans would give if we had the opportunity to play.

The reality is more nuanced and i would argue there are more issues at the club from a tactical and technical perspective than there is from a passion or desire point of view.

Also i think Lingard is the most in the right to be miffed with the way he's been treated by the club, had a cracking loan spell at west ham and then was kept at the club for no good reason and has not had any meaningful game time.

Hes certainly more deserving of a send off than Cavani was who has taking the mick out of the club all season.

{Ed014's Note - it’s hard to fathom the problems in honesty, they would seem obvious yet are probably not.

It’s a big reset because otherwise ETH will just be the next head on the chopping block.


5.) 03 May 2022 14:51:32
Your wrong Ed, fear factor should be evident in every industry, you should never want to let your boss or your manager down! Let alone go publicly gibbing off about an employer who has paid you extortionate amounts of money! Playing football is the same, and I bet Liverpool and city players are scared of letting klopp and pep down because of the amount of respect they have for them! Never hear a peep from them camps because the fear or respect is there .

{Ed001's Note - it is not fear that does that, fear makes you freeze. You are showing a complete lack of understanding of what works. The reason Liverpool and City do so well is because they don't fear making a mistake, they can play without fear.}


6.) 03 May 2022 15:15:08
Chris, it's respect. The Liverpool and City players respect their manager and they respect their club.

They know they will be treated fairly if they are fair themselves.

The managers talk to the players, explain what they need to do to improve and providing they do that they will get their chance.

If the player decides he wants to leave, then there is a way for them to do that the the club won't get in their way.

The problem at United isn't a lack of fear but a lack of respect. However, what we should really be asking is why there is a lack of respect.

Ultimately it's because the club is run like a circus rather than a football club. An arrogance from key decision makers even though they have no proven track record of success. Players being forced to stay, lied to, managers being out of their depth and picking favourites regardless of form. A lack of coaching and direction, managers throwing players under the bus to save their own skin and vice versa.

It's a recipe for disaster, poorly run from top to bottom, amateur decision making, no clear plan or vision, lurching from one mistake to the next, a lack of accountability at all levels, players brand appeal being valued greater than their playing ability or profile.

You take those players at City and Liverpool and you put them in the United team over the past few years and we would be saying the same of them as we do of our own.


7.) 03 May 2022 15:46:57
I don't beleive in ruling by fear but I do beleive that players should be afraid of losing their place, losing their career at a club if they don't uphold the values of the club and standards on and off the field and what the manager wants- that's different. That "fear" or respect comes from strong management and being reluctant to let your teammates and the club down, it means something to you.

Thats what's missing throughout the club now. Players aren't afraid of Klopp or Pep, they want to play for him and do right by their teammates and the club- be part of somethign great that they have built collectively.


8.) 03 May 2022 17:21:31
Players should play out of love for the club. At least it used to be like that. now they only play for the money, they aren't ashamed if they give a bad performance, if they keep losing, not trying, and so on.


9.) 03 May 2022 18:19:34
You don't need fear, you need what American Football teams call Alpha Dawgs in the locker (dressing room) . These are the guys who set the standard and tone amongst the team. They have drive, are fierce competitors and demand it from everyone. They will pick up the guys who need it with a quiet word or an arm around then if that's what required. These are the type of guys who don't bemoan when things go against them the strive to overcome them. Lose a goal you believe is unfair, you need someone to say don't matter we just have to score two.

This side doesn't have these, look at our supposed leaders, Bruno whines non stop. Maguire has retreated completely into his shell and looks scared stuff on pitch.

This team last year kept coming back in the second half, this year they have downed tools, they play scared.

Guys like Rashford who doesn't strike me as the Alpha sort seem to have been negatively affected too. I wonder how much of his problems (at least with effort) and of similar players who affected by this.

We need a couple of people to come in with the manager and change things up from the middle of our dressing room. It's not fear though unless it's the will to succeed to dominate to win.


 

 

19 Apr 2022 22:20:45
So many players being awful all game, but Rangnick has been a failed experiment to me.

I'm not a football guru but playing a back 5 with one of the fullbacks as AWB with 0 attacking threat is stupid.
Maguire and Rashford how they keep on starting again and again and again is beyond me.
Why are these players not thrown under the bus?
There's a game on twitter where people play Maguire mistake bingo to decide at what minute Maguire is making a mistake.
How does bruno stay for 60 mins? He does nothing all game.
It's favouritism at play here the same that was under Ole.
Don't care who starts instead but Maguire needs to be sent away from the club to dubai alongwith Cavani and Pogba.

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1.) 19 Apr 2022 22:36:48
Agree with your sentiment about RR. Was never a fan and said as much when he was appointed. I stand to be corrected, and I hope I am, but he just looks totally lost and they are going to put him in a position of relative power.

We are worse now than under Ole!

Utterly embarrassing.


2.) 19 Apr 2022 22:43:05
What did you expect rangnick to do? These players have repeatedly shown they don't really care, they see him as there for 6 months so why pay any attention to him? There are so many of them out of contract i don't remember pogba limping before his number came up for sub?

I hope they take note of what rangnick has to say about the structure of this club and about these players because there are very few who he would report good things about, an 18 year old came on and put up more of a fight than any of them!


3.) 19 Apr 2022 22:54:14
So it's the players fault but you blame Ragnick for their faults. He puts them in a shape tells them how to play, it's not his fault that they don't follow the plan. Watch what he says about the first goal, we were never supposed to be that high up the pitch. These are the players he has inherited, as Roy Keane said, they will keep throwing managers under the bus, and once again they're doing the same. Ragnick sees exactly what's going on, he gets zero blame for the shambles we are right now.


4.) 19 Apr 2022 23:25:37
I like Ralf but he's not a manager. He will be an asset going forward in whatever role rebuilding, hopefully but he's not a good manager.


5.) 19 Apr 2022 23:30:09
4 players in the match day squad are out of contract in the summer, 3 of those played today. They’re not going to bust a gut for the team. What hope do the committed players have when you’re playing against that opposition with several players MIA. You need 11 players, all committed. RR has no options, other than throwing in kids who’d get slaughtered in the prem, destroy their confidence. The board must take responsibility for the disharmony at the club, recruiting Sancho and Varane, both on much bigger wages than the other players in the squad, both of which don’t deserve what we’re paying them. Maguire, our captain on £200k a week…we bring in Varane, a CB on £350k a week. That’s some serious undermining. Sancho, £350k a week for doing it in the German league…I’d be questioning the club if I was one of our attackers having helped the team to second in the English league.


6.) 19 Apr 2022 23:45:22
No manager in the world could succeed with these players. Unfair to blame Rangnick. They are just not good enough both ability wise and attitude wise.


7.) 20 Apr 2022 00:52:00
I really don’t think it’s Rangnick’s fault at all. He may not be a top manager but he is a manager nonetheless.

His predecessor was please-all bottom kissing positivity merchant who had nothing to offer other than good vibes and nostalgia about the 90’s. The fella literally wouldn’t park in the managers space because it was reserved for ‘The Boss’ and then dragged an elderly and unwell Sir Alex out of the stands to do his team talks for him. The reason players like Pogba and Shaw appeared to be happier and ‘better’ under him was because he didn’t demand anything of them, he didn’t coach them, he didn’t set expectations or tell them what to do. All he could offer was showering them with affection and telling them to just be happy and express themselves and that would be enough.

Shockingly, you need a bit more than that to compete at the top level of football, and when he was inevitably sacked under a cloud of negativity and with absolute anarchy reigning on the pitch, the players checked out before United could even get a manager in. Despite throwing their toys out of them pram because the last guy was too mean, they then threw their toys out the pram because the new guy wasn’t mean enough. Everything was always someone elses fault and they didn’t really know what they wanted, probably because they didn’t didn’t care about winning at all. Everything on the pitch was broken, but the players talked about it as if it was a problem they had no input in, which is clearly the perspective they still hold judging by Bruno’s interview tonight. They say they’re not good enough and they’re sorry, but at the same time it’s not really anything to do with them and they can’t wait to jump ship, because they ‘deserve’ better and it’s everyone else at United that is causing the toxicity, not themselves as individuals.

Then Rangnick comes into this mess, they’ve all checked out, half of them want to leave, the other half just want a paycheck or want someone else to sort out their mess for them, and he has to try and get them playing. I think you can tell from the leaks and from the way he talks about them (he just about stops short of telling the world he effing hates them) that they’re absolutely not bothered about anything going on at the club and have no interest in turning it around. If Guardiola or Klopp came in and tried to demand higher standards from them, it’d be the exact same result.

They don’t like winning, they don’t like engaging with what it takes to win, they don’t like competition at the top end of football, they don’t like being criticised. It’s no secret that the culture at United is rancid from top to bottom, but never before, at any club ever, have i been aware of a dressing room this toxic. It has completely infected every corner of the squad and Ralf Rangnick can’t do anything about that. I appreciate the tactics may appear a little frustrating from the outside looking in but you really can’t appreciate how complex the layers of awfulness are in situations this tricky. Last season our fans were going mental at Klopp for some of the decisions he made, but when the manager has absolutely nothing to work with at a base level, it’s difficult to appreciate why he makes the decisions he does when you’re not spending your every waking moment in a nightmarish hellscape with many moving parts and nothing can possibly go right.

The fact is, they won’t do anything he asks of them. He may not be the greatest motivator in the world, and i always believe the buck stops with the manager, but even the greatest managers in the world wouldn’t be able to work with these players. These players wouldn’t buy into anything a top manager asks of them; it would simply be too much for them to handle. They are an anomaly in football, in that they seem to be a group of professional footballers that actually hate playing the game itself.


8.) 20 Apr 2022 01:30:49
Thank you for writing everything that I've thought about these losers so clearly and precise. Ragnick has tactics but these losers don't want to run, pressing and counterpressing takes a lot of guts and you have to run your legs off, which one of these players is willing to do that? They're not willing to work hard, play as a unit. They don't give a damn because they know if they play a few good matches they will get their contract renewal. I was so embarrassed for our team today, we all know Liverpool is a good team, they built up to it, but the fact that they don't at least try their hardest is the worst thing possible. I feel so bad with Ragnick, going from coaching professional German players who understand they have to follow a plan to these clowns, must be real tough.


9.) 20 Apr 2022 07:08:36
Ralf has one job, identify who needs to be got rid of and who should be kept so when Erik comes in he doesn't have to waste time assessing them, just a simple clear out your locker, your gone.


 

 

 

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07 May 2022 11:57:05
I'll be very surprised if he moved to City.
All those city players work very hard and none of them are lazy.
At best I think he will be a bench player at City.
He should move to PSG where you have to only turn up if you're either playing a top 4 french side or cup game or CL.
Suits him well.
Real Madrid would be a great option as well, Pogba, Mbappe and Benzema could make amazing Instagram videos there.

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23 Mar 2022 06:12:34
But he doesn't he again play LW.
How many LW players is actually needed :P.

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23 Mar 2022 06:11:15
If having talks was a success metric we'd be #1.

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20 Mar 2022 20:53:40
Really don't want Kane at all,
We already have a lot of players who already earn a lot and do no put the hard yards needed.
These heavy outlays on 1 player every season signing has been a massive failure.
I'd rather us sign players likely to become top class, Darwin Nunez is highly rated, or other strikers who look like they are going to make big.
The only player I'd change this strategy for is if Lewandowski is available, who I feel is world class and better than our current Ronaldo.
I hope we try to build teams more than sign individuals who want all the attention centred around them.

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20 Mar 2022 20:46:40
I really hope whoever the next manager is, sees the players for what they do on the pitch than what country they play for, their wages or how big their head is before he starts a first XI.
Ole was an elite favorites manager, constantly playing his 12-13 cuddly players. He used to explain mediocrity with we are getting better. And had absolutely no qualms about all but ruining a lad like rashford with possibly a very bad injury and continuosly overplaying him.

With rangnick, a lot of that favortism has gone away but there are still 2-3 players who are automatic starters even though they have woeful for a while. Maguire especially is a 4 or 5 each game and yet is constantly played as CB. Bailly, Lindelof and Jones all are better than him.

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24 May 2022 11:49:44
Thanks GDS2, if he is one of coaches during the treble time, seems like a good appointment.
We actually get a coach rather than players who were good players and not coaches in any form.
England job is hard for any manager.

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24 May 2022 09:30:38
I'm 1000% backing ETH atleast for 1 season, I think Steve McLaren might help much more than any of our assistant coaches.
He knows what United is, he's been here, his formations didn't work out but he definitely knows football more than the likes of Carrick etc knew.
Think that's an astute signing much better than useless Phelan.

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24 May 2022 09:27:53
Honestly I would boot both rashford and martial out if I personally could.
But realistically I don't see us signing a striker, I could be terribly wrong. Rashford and Martial as 2nd striker playing 15 games is fine.
But you never know who is the problem element in the squad.
I personally feel Rashford is one of those problem elements, much more than Martial is.
Martial wasn't given as much game time as the other players were when they were playing equally bad.
Bailly was in a similar boat when Maguire was making mistake after mistake every game.
Rangnick resorted to some of sort of favortism as well, much less than Solskjaer though.
Even if Donny stayed, do you think he would have started 5 games even if Bruno has been pants? I don't think so.
No one in the team should be guaranteed a starting berth if they keep performing terribly, this should the baselines. I'm not saying drop someone if he has a bad game, run of bad games you sit the next ones out.
The prima donna culture has to go.

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24 May 2022 09:22:20
At the right price, definitely upgrades over what we have.
I don't think getting Bowen would be easy. He's been very clinical for them. not sure what his contract situation is though.

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23 May 2022 20:33:06
I can sense the first 6 months as really difficult, we could be easily 7-8th because and then these new signings or younger players start to find their feet and we finish maybe 4th.
Man City and Liverpool are going be top 2 imo, they have been amazing.
Spurs (could be title challengers, Conte usually gets a league title wherever he goes) .
Chelsea, Arsenal, us and Newcastle fighting for top 4.
I am going to wary of Newcastle, they've had an excellent end to the season with a not so great squad. Most of their players are mid tier.
If I was Newcastle i'd have my eye on a couple of players who are close to end of their career. Maybe Suarez.

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