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09 Mar 2021 18:26:32
Reports stating United are looking to sign a GK this summer with Oblak and Donnarumma under consideration. Any truth to this?

{Ed002's Note - It is Sergio Romero (G) and Lee Grant (G) that need a replacement - if De Gea or Dean Henderson were to leave then perhaps another higher end goalkeeper would arrive. I would not hold your breath - certainly not for Donnarumma. There has been interest in Oblak before.}


1.) 10 Mar 2021 00:26:55
Thanks Ed, I thought it odd tbh but then again we have done things in an odd way recently.


2.) 10 Mar 2021 12:52:10
Think it be very counter productive to sign a Donnarumma or Oblak. Club needs to decide what to do regarding De Gea and Henderson first. Imagine selling De Gea then getting one of them to replace him, you going to still have a upset Henderson

Think the club will try to delay it another season but I would let De Gea go if needs be, hopefully he can get a move that's suitable for him for all the fantastic service he provided us. Henderson is our future number 1.

Logically you would sell De Gea and buy a decent number 2 to back up Henderson. Matt Ryan from Brighton for me, be a logical choice.


3.) 10 Mar 2021 15:06:39
I think if someone like PSG come in and make a decent offer for DDG we should snatch their hands off.

DDG is still a good keeper, but he is no longer a great one. Yet he is on a reported 375k per week. He is also steadily declining and has 4 years left on his contract.

If we can move him on them we have to take that, otherwise we could be stuck with the highest paid keeper in the world who is declining for the next 4 years.

Give Henderson the No.1 shirt and buy a top back up keeper to challenge/ cover for him. Possibly someone older with a bit of experience. A player like Areola from Fulham if they go down, or Krul or Begovic from Norwich or Bournemouth from the Championship. Players with EPL experience.


4.) 11 Mar 2021 00:12:30
With the birth of his child, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dave opts to go back to Spain this summer. I wish we’d done more to keep Romero happy as I’d be more than satisfied with him and Dean as our keepers. Swapping Dave for Oblak (either figuratively or literally) would leave us in the same mess we’re in now so I hope we steer clear unless the plan is to offload both Dave and Dean and replace them with a first and second choice keeper. That would be equally nonsensical though, imo.

{Ed077's Note - Spain doesnt have many options for DDG right now.}


5.) 11 Mar 2021 18:45:45
Krul or begovic? Really shappy? Scraping the bottom of the barrel there lad.

{Ed077's Note - Romero is better and more importantly better suited in a possesion style}


6.) 12 Mar 2021 11:04:50
RedWhiskey, Areola would be my first choice. EPL proven and has been top class in a struggling side for most of the season.

That said, what I think we need is a clear second choice keeper, but one who can push Henderson. Similar to when we had Lindegaard with DDG when he was first here.

I'd love to keep Romero but I think we have burned our bridges there.

Ideally we would need someone who speaks English (as communication is vital for a keeper) and ideally has played in the EPL so won't be surprised when challenged in the air for crosses etc. Also ideally I think we need someone with a little experience, someone who has been there and can pass that experience on.

Finding top class players who would be happy to be back up is difficult. While with all the other areas we need to improve on we don't want to be spending 25m on a back up keeper, the cheaper the better really.

Both Begovic and Krul have been statistically in the top 4 keepers in the championship this season, have EPL experience and are at an age where they might accept being second choice at a club like United rather than first choice in the championship.


7.) 13 Mar 2021 10:48:51
Romero was one of the best back up goalkeepers around and seemed happy in the role. The decision to retain DDG, then bring back Henderson was a crazy one. Those had to be managerial decisions, but made no sense, then we should have been fair to Romero yet were very poor. I have to wonder how other pro footballers feel when they hear about Romero’s treatment. We should have sold DDG several years ago yet gave him a whopping new contract, madness.


8.) 13 Mar 2021 19:43:50
Why are we all so keen to get rid of DDG? He’s our best keeper by a clear margin. Henderson needs a loan to play matches every week.


9.) 14 Mar 2021 13:06:03
Romero has been a quality back-up keeper for us and was seemingly happy to play his part in the cup games but obviously we have had to look to the future and bring Henderson in or risk losing him completely. Henderson is 23 though and I was still surprised that, in a European Championship year, we saw him move back to United as it made more sense for all parties for him to stay on loan at Sheff United and be playing week in week out. Romero a perfectly capable back-up and once longer term view on De Gea future known he could've shared duties with Henderson.


10.) 15 Mar 2021 10:27:38
De Gea has been better this season than last, he’s made a couple of mistakes but that’s it and has made some great saves, people were saying before his recent error that Deano coming back has forced him to improve and I agree. Henderson is a top keeper too and is pushing for his place, the defence looks better and more assured with him in there, so if bringing Henderson back was a ‘managerial decision’ then it was a good one for me.


 

 

10 Nov 2020 10:05:06
Rumours that Mason Greenwood isn't applying himself in training, obvs don't know how true that is but seemingly left out on occasion due to discipline issues. If it is true then it would be a huge waste of talent, someone needs to get a grip of him and say look at what you have at your feet, not sure there is anyone at the club that's got that about them, Bruno perhaps, anyway, maybe its not accurate but usually no smoke without fire.


1.) 10 Nov 2020 10:21:42
Hearing exactly the same and just submitted a post prior to seeing this. Latest is apparently Bruno confronting him with a rather large bust up ensuing and resulting in him being 'unwell' and not in the squad for the Everton game. I do hope it’s all nonsense but.


 

 

15 Sep 2020 09:35:41
Gareth Bale 1 year loan with pption to buy at the end, perhaps Real subsiding some of his wages or waiving a fee to get him off their books all rumoured today.
Any truth we are looking to turn to Bale Ed?
I have read across the site thar Bale doesn't want to play football, I'm not sure that is true, ZZ won't play him and so he is picking up a big wage, problem has been nobody could afford him to buy or loan and Real also wanted a fee so I feel a tad unfair on Bale to say he has given up.
Problem i'd see is we sign Bale and he just won't be fit for a while or its a risk in terms of injuries but we do have Greenwood to rotate with him which may work on that basis.
If we was also to sign Stevanovic with Bale for a couple of years, Greenwood eventually going central, may not work out too bad, a risk as I say in terms of Bale himself but on his day he is unplayable and the savings from Sancho fees we could strengthen elsewhere, mind you we need to sell players first.

{Ed002's Note - Gareth Bale (RW) - if the finances can be sorted out Manchester United could opt for him as an alternate to Sancho.}


1.) 15 Sep 2020 10:18:19
Thank you Ed.


2.) 15 Sep 2020 10:21:57
Bale when fit and motivated is excellent. Even 30 games a season from a fit and motivated Bale makes our squad considerably better. His contribution would outweigh that of James, Pereira, Mata etc you'd expect.

The issue for me isn't even the fitness side of things, it's more the motivation element. He's achieved everything he could have at Real from a silverware perspective but from an individual one not so much. Does he still have the drive to be one of the best in the world? He gets to stay in a lovely city with good weather, good food, gets to play an incredible golf course at the Santander Madrid and when he is at work he gets to play football for one of the biggest clubs in the world, earning a massive wage doing it. He's living the dream and motivation must be hard to muster when that is the case.

I think it is a risk but based on the other options of Perisic or Costa, I'd still edge towards Bale but that's probably more in hope that he rediscovered his best form than expectation.


3.) 15 Sep 2020 10:36:18
Bale can single handedly win games.
I do like the option of Greenwood and Bale rotating on RW.


4.) 15 Sep 2020 11:00:44
Bale ‘could’ singlehandedly win games, past tense.

Now Bale is finished. Massive wages, atrocious injury record, no work ethic, and doesn’t seem to care about playing.


5.) 15 Sep 2020 11:01:12
No problem rotating with bale as he'll be rotating with the operating table anyway.


6.) 15 Sep 2020 13:00:57
Id be happy as ed said if the finances could be sorted.
A loan with an option would be ideal imo and fairly low risk.


7.) 15 Sep 2020 14:16:32
I'd be disappointed if we sign Bale. I don't think short term options are a worthwhile investment. Look at Ighalo, as much as you might want him to be a success. The reality is is that he isn't going to challenge for a first team spot when everyone is fit. He's just there to make up the numbers.

If we can't sign Sancho this summer then I doubt we'll ever sign him. Next summer he'll either be more expensive than this, or if he isn't and is actually available cheaper then we will likely face strong competition from other sides, possibly even the sides that he would prefer to move to.

The only scenario which isn't a terrible idea when signing Bale would be on a heavily subsidised one year loan deal. He is 31, has a chequered history with injuries, is a player who relies heavily on pace, and has shown little desire to play football over the past few seasons.

Will he be able to stay fit often enough to play a decent number of games?

If he can stay fit is he still able to make a difference in the faster more physically demanding league?

Would he be a positive or negative impact on our young squad?

If he can stay fit, and if he can still play at the level he was at a few years ago and if he can find his desire to play then he would be a good signing.

But that is a lot of ifs. While his wage demands have the potential to cause another Sanchez situation.

A one year loan deal where we pay half his wages and a proportion of that half is performance related. Then it wouldn't be an awful move.

But then what happens if he does well? Should the club sign him permanently next summer? And at what cost? Or if we can't sign Sancho next summer and Bale flops who do we sign then?

I think if we can't sign Sancho then we should look for a diamond in the rough type signing. Someone young, with potential who we could sign and rotate around with the likes of Greenwood, Rashford and James in the wide positions.

Mbeumo, Tsygankov, Stengs, Neres, or Leon Bailey.

Players who can play anywhere across the front line, have talent and could make a huge jump up if placed in and around better players.


8.) 17 Sep 2020 17:45:40
Why would anyone be excited about Bale. there was a semblance of a plan, young, hungry players, Bale is simply a galactico signing. tbe higher ups have known for months what it would take to get Sancho and have acted, as usual in an amateurish way again and will now panic buy someone who doesn't fit.

Bale will be injured first game he plays and will be out. it's a disgrace tve club acts like this, no ambition apart from bringing in money.


9.) 17 Sep 2020 17:46:27
I don't think its fair to state he has little desire to play football, Madrid have ostracised Bale for that time period in the main, ZZ didn't exactly want to play him, if I recall Real blocked Bale going to China to play football, let's be fair even if Real wanted to let him go rather than blocking him leavinv these past 2 years who, except the Chinese club, would be able afford him, those that could afford him didn't need him, so that leaves Bale stuck really, easy to say take a pay cut etc but until recently Real wanted a hefty fee for Bale as well so tbh I don't blame Bale for picking up the wage Real agreed to pay him when he signed if they don't want to select him.
The Bale for Wales shows desire and work ethic as did the Bale for Real prior to all of this, I feel if Bale came here he would have a lot to prove and have desire and work hard but as I say his fitness and then injuries would be my concern.


 

 

07 Sep 2020 12:43:01
Hi Ed002, how credible are the various reports stating we are close to signing Sergio Regulion?

{Ed002's Note - "Close to" is a subjective term. Real Madrid need cash and are offering him around. Plenty of clubs have had discussions. Manchester United are an option - although it doesn't seem a priority.}


1.) 07 Sep 2020 13:02:32
Rumours now linking us to Alex Telles of Porto and Mykolenko of Dynamo Kiev. Two more left backs, either the media are just naming LB's after the Reguilon link or maybe the club is seriously considering a move for a LB.

{Ed002's Note - If MU are to buy a LB then AT would be first choice. Pini has been in London dealing with another transfer so perhaps he will have a little time to spare.}


2.) 07 Sep 2020 14:30:29
Ed002, I think it might be a red herring. The "report" suggested Alex Telles agent was in Manchester to tie up a deal. I'm pretty sure United do most of their transfer negotiations etc from their London office.

{Ed002's Note - He has been in London, not Manchester.}


3.) 07 Sep 2020 15:37:05
Thank you Ed for the info, much appreciated.


4.) 07 Sep 2020 16:43:30
ED002, i read that AT has a year left on his contract. Is he a cheaper option to SR or just the overall preferred option?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - He won’t be cheaper but would be preferred- a good kick in the gonads for Williams if anything happens.}


5.) 07 Sep 2020 17:32:46
hopefully it spurs Brandie on.


6.) 07 Sep 2020 18:52:21
Isnt williams a rb playing left back? Or have i got that wrong.


7.) 07 Sep 2020 18:56:50
Maybe we are going for 3 at the back with Shaw going central, would make sense signing LB then with Williams able to cover both right and left, who knows.


8.) 07 Sep 2020 18:18:04
Gonads, Old School there Ed.


9.) 07 Sep 2020 21:42:42
Think Dalot will go and Williams will move to right back.


10.) 08 Sep 2020 20:36:19
I’d like to see Williams get the cup games and a handful of PL starts at RB. As good as AWB is defensively, he doesn’t have the grit and drive that Williams shows when attacking.


 

 

18 Aug 2020 09:36:44
Hi Ed, hope you are good.
I just wanted to ask have we signed or agreed to sign Marc Jurado and Alvaro Carreras from Barcelona and Real respectively?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


1.) 18 Aug 2020 09:48:05
What age see there guys?

{Ed002's Note - Kids, 16 perhaps 17.}


2.) 18 Aug 2020 10:44:03
Thought so. Thanks ed002.
Hope all is well.
I know you don't like giving blow by blow updates but i was wondering is there don't truth in the reports that united have reignited their push for Saul?


3.) 18 Aug 2020 14:33:47
Thanks Ed.


4.) 18 Aug 2020 17:38:53
Ken,

I'm thinking ED002 said Saul would be a Pogba replacement if the amateurs let him go.


5.) 18 Aug 2020 20:04:17
Thanks MH.


6.) 19 Aug 2020 22:44:56
Jurado has himself confirmed the transfer on Instagram of all places.


 

 

 

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06 May 2021 22:21:06
Well, job done, strange game, Roma was so open they allowed Bruno to do whatever he liked and Cavani to run anywhere he liked and they paid for that. Saying that DdG saved about 8 goals and Telles was rinsed in that chaotic spell I dunno how many times. Second gear I guess but shipping 5 goals to an average roma shows me where our weakness lies. We played some unbelievable stuff aswell, given time and space we can defeat anyone. Villarreal in the final will be tough I recall thee series of 0-0s in the past, are they still as pragmatic today? If so, be a tough final breaking them down.


1.) 07 May 2021 04:39:00
I think that Roma attack is pretty good when it clicks WRD. It was almost as if that roma have been assembled to be out bogey team. Well it didn't work, so maybe they will have to go for one of our ex managers.

We should have scored 3 in the first half, we had easily the best chances early. Cavini missed 2 gilt edge chances. Second half they rode their luck a bit.

Anyone wondering why fred and McTom play, it was clear tonight. So open.

But a final to look forward to, and a solid finish in league.


2.) 07 May 2021 06:09:39
Our goals against is good, just a very strange tie.


3.) 07 May 2021 07:31:48
I don't think our defence is any good at all, opinions like. Shaw very poor defensively, Maguire is our best CB yet he is himself prone to a stupid decision, Bailly I like but erratic, Lindelof for me is bang average, wan bissaka is our best defensive defender, Telles is awful, Brandie is ok, those descriptions don't win you premier leagues or champions leagues, we play x2 DM to cover these shortcomings and you see in an open game with x1 DM we ship 5 to an average Roma team. World class CB needed desperately then maybe ditch the x1 DM.


 

 

18 Apr 2021 16:01:07
Super league to be announced latwr apparently, any thoughts on it Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - It is a starting step no more right now. You knew it would come in one form or another at some point and there have been five or six ideas on the table as has been explained - but it would change before being implemented and there will be significant legal hassles ro resolve.}


1.) 18 Apr 2021 19:40:12
Thanks Ed, any idea what the statements from the 6 clubs will be this evening?

{Ed002's Note - Any statements can only be vague at this time. I suspect you will hear words like “explore”.}


2.) 18 Apr 2021 20:19:50
Thank you Ed, have a good evening.


 

 

16 Apr 2021 07:49:07
I am glad the poll from the other day has created so much buzz about a new striker on here, I didn't actually say but it would be Kane all day for me, prem proven, peak age, he would be the one signing that could directly catapult us to the title imo, pay what it takes, I see him as more of a fit for us than City and I don't see him going abroad. I've no doubt we as a club will fudge the transfer, it'll be hard enough dealing with Levy, and end up paying 100m for adama traore instead, our way isn't it.


1.) 16 Apr 2021 10:13:22
Welsh, I think the key thing to remember is that none of us will see all the positions we would like to see strengthened addressed in the summer, and we certainly won't see the player we would ideally like to see sign be brought in.

I think most people feel we need to bring in a top CB, CDM, RW and ST. With maybe a rotation option at RB and a back up keeper as well depending on departures. The order of preference or opinion on the severity of the need for each position varies from person to person though.

For me personally for example I would say that the order of need is CDM, RW then CB. I then think we will be forced to enter the market for a back up keeper as I don't see BOTH DDG and Henderson staying next season.

For me I feel the issue we have in many games is a lack of control in midfield, while we concede far too many goals to midfield runners not being tracked. I think the right CDM would improve our balance of play, providing better cover for our defence and giving us a better platform to build attacks through the midfield.

I have RW as second as currently all our creativity comes from Bruno, bringing in a creator to play wide who create an extra 3-4 top quality chances per game themselves would massively improve our side. Not to mention a player who adds that kind of creative threat would create more space for players like Bruno and Rashford just by being on the pitch, which would probably seem them create and score more goals as well.

I have CB at third as clearly Maguire and Lindelof don't quite have the right balance. However, I feel with a better CDM in front of them and with a more vocal keeper behind them who isn't afraid to come off his line in Henderson then I feel their weaknesses have been better mitigated against with those two changes. While Maguire is also our captain and Lindelof remains a particular favourite of the manager. So I do have slight concern that any new CB might be coming in as third choice, at least initially anyway, which wouldn't be in immediate improvement on the starting 11.

I feel ST and RB are of less importance as I have a lot of faith in Greenwood and Williams to provide competition in those roles, and I certainly wouldn't feel at a big disadvantage if we lined up for a game with Greenwood starting at our ST and Williams at RB.

They are young players and they need game time if they are to improve and develop as players. We have seen several young players leave as they felt they had no pathway into the first team and that it was blocked in some way. While I don't agree with them having a clear path into the first team with no competition, I do feel like we don't gain anything from having multiple "squad" players in their way.

You should either have a player who is good enough to play every week, or you have a youngster fighting for that. Having a squad full of second class players just doesn't give the first choice players any competition for their spot, while they block the way forward for the young players.

So I would only sign a player if they were good enough to start every week as first choice. If not then don't sign them, its a waste of money. To that end only sign a RB as good or better than AWB, anything else is a waste of money. If we sign a striker then they have to be a world class, top drawer striker, the issue with that is they cost 100m+. So I would be tempted to give Greenwood more game time next season, hopefully with a better balanced team that creates more chances then Martial might return to scoring 15-20 league goals a season.

Then in the summer of 2022 look at signing a world class ST if Greenwood doesn't look ready.

However, that's what I want, and what I would do. The reality is that we will probably sign Milenkovic at CB and he'll be third choice and have little to no impact. Not sign a CDM at all. Then sign Ismaila Sarr for RW and Mandzukic for ST.


2.) 16 Apr 2021 11:14:24
If Cavani leaves, a striker is a must.

Also, Shapps if we get a good CB, we can abandon playing 2 Defensive Midfielders and have another creator alongside Bruno centrally.

Pep used David Silva and De Bruyne so effectively to destroy opposition defences.

We have to be creative dealing with transfers. Lingard will have many takers for example, so try getting Rice the other side.
Similarly, Pogba can be used in a swap for Varane as he is looking for a new challenge.


3.) 16 Apr 2021 12:10:01
There are two trains of thought suggesting that an upgraded CB will nullify the need to find a better CDM, and that upgrading our current CDM mid options will nullify the need to buy a better CB. I'm not sure which way I lean as I can't see both being addressed. Although we seem to have a few CB options within, there would seem to be more CB options available than CDM ie Torres/ Varane/ Milenkovic/ Kounde. Then again, Matic is no spring chicken, and Fred despite having a great engine is not a great player by any stretch of the imagination.
We have a few RW options, so personally doubt whether a top-end one like Sancho will be revisited. I do wonder if a cheaper option like Rafinha might be wise, or better still, a player who can play on either flank.
Creativity is a problem. We only really have Pogba and Fernandes who can truly pull off something completely unexpected. VDB is supposedly in this class but hasn't shown that he can step up. yet.
Up front however is still where I think the biggest impact can be made. A proven player who can grab the ugly goals consistently, makes good runs and is always in the right place at the right time. Not Martial, who ventures to the wings even when he's the target man. Watching Cavani has been enough to show the difference a player with these skills has. Kane is certainly the most appealing in this bracket but he's in his prime and will cost accordingly. Spurs have a shiny new stadium to pay for, and without CL football they may be forced to sell. Love Haaland and the energy and buzz he'd bring but I suspect it's going to become a shoot-out between who offers most as Dortmund don't need to sell, it's just whether what anyone is prepared to pay above his release clause that comes into effect next season is enough to tempt them. If the clause is £65-75m then I guess it has to be over £100m to make it worth their while to lose him a season early. Or they may well find another journeyman for a season should Haaland stay and be willing to be one of the numerous clubs happy to pay the release fee next season.
On release fees, I never really understood what happened with Suarez and Arsenal that season. Didn't they offer the required amount, but Liverpool rejected it? How was that possible?


4.) 16 Apr 2021 12:44:18
Would Cavani leaving really be that big of an impact?

He has 9 goals and 2 assists in 30 games, he has played 1097 minutes of the available 2790 (not including injury time) EPL minutes so far this season.

Effectively he is playing 1 in 3 games for us in the league minutes wise.

Last season Martial scored 17 league goals and got 6 assists playing 2640 minutes, this season he has 4 goals and 3 assists playing 1488 minutes so far. The reduction in his minutes have had an impact on the number of goals he scores.

Having Cavani in the side oddly hasn't resulted in us scoring more goals. We score an average on 0.94 goals with Cavani on the pitch, with average of 1.31 goals with him not on the pitch. Bare in mind that that stat has been skewed somewhat by the goals scored in the 9-0 against Southampton. So statistically we score more goals without Cavani than with him.

We tend to play with only one striker, we have Martial, Rashford and Greenwood who can all play as a striker as well as Cavani.

While I agree Martial probably needs replacing, if he stays along with a bigger role for Greenwood I don't see a desperate need for a striker.


5.) 16 Apr 2021 12:47:54
Spenno, I kind of agree with CB/ CDM sentiment. However, for me a better CDM would not only improve us defensively, but give us more control in midfield and a better platform to launch attacks from. So could be more impactful than a CB.

Like I said I also have concerns about whether the new CB would start immediately.

As for the Suarez thing, I think Liverpool got around it by giving him a big pay rise and agreeing to sell him the following summer. Technically they broke the agreement of the contract, but it is down to Suarez to push for retribution, instead he got a nice big payday.


6.) 16 Apr 2021 15:24:32
I went with Haaland in the poll just because of Kane’s poor injury record, but I do share concerns that were we to sign the former (which seems incredibly unlikely anyway), he’d be on the move again in four years time. I do wonder whether that’s just where modern football is at these days though and would rather have a striker who is fit and banging in goals for four years and then sold on for a profile than one who could potentially spend half of his time injured and then leave for nothing when his contract expires.


 

 

13 Apr 2021 22:42:46
Was discussed a fair bit post match on tv but not sure Ed if you can do a poll but who would people like to come in?

Kane
Haaland
Calvert Lewin.

{Ed033's Note -


Man Utd Ins poll


1.) 14 Apr 2021 07:20:17
Just out of curiosity, the 8 people (at the time of posting) who picked dominic calvert-lewin.

Apart from the logic that he would be easier to obtain than kane and haaland (although getting him out of everton will be tougher now with their financial backing)

What is the logic for picking DCL over kane or haaland?

{Ed077's Note - without taking the cost into the debate, there's no point in that poll to draw much conclusion. For example DCL is a better choice for 65m then Kane for 120m or Haaland for 150m. And with change in price, the value and sensibility of the deal changes and so does the choice IMO.}


2.) 14 Apr 2021 08:24:04
Something to consider is that both Kane and DCL have proven they can score in the EPL.

Haaland could do a Werner. Although it is unlikely.


3.) 14 Apr 2021 09:26:15
Haaland has no interest in joining united. Personally I'd have zero interest in him and the circus that surrounds him
Kane will have better options imo. Dealing with spurs will not be easy.
I think ed002 says we have no interest in DCL.
Any of the 3 would be huge money.
I'd rather stick with greenwood and cavani as our striking options. Bin off martial.


4.) 14 Apr 2021 10:03:45
I approached it solely based on their ability and how I think they would do in a United shirt.

While Haaland is clearly going to be a top player, currently I think he is over hyped. Phenomenal finisher, but poor hold up play, his team play needs work, and nowhere near as good in the air as someone his size should be. For the fees being touted you would expect a far more complete player. No doubt he will develop and his hold play and aerial success will improve. However, at his age I would expect him to be on the move again before he fully reaches his potential. I feel it would be similar to Ronaldo where we spend 3-4 years developing him into a world class player, only for him to leave and for someone else to benefit from that. The big difference is that we got Ronaldo relatively cheaply, whereas Haaland would cost a monstrous amount.

DCL has been great this season and if I'm honest has a better all round game compared to Haaland, but is nowhere near as good a finisher.

Kane would be my pick of the three, great hold up and link up play, deadly finisher, EPL proven and at his peak. He'd be great for 3-5 season by which point we would have Greenwood approaching 24-25 and ready to take over. The only concerns with Kane is his injury history, but that could actually be seen as an advantage with us as it would guarantee Greenwood game time. Also I wonder how many of Kane's injuries come about through fatigue due to Spurs not having anyone to play to rest Kane.

When looking at our team we need a more well rounded striker who can make goals for themselves and create goals for others. For that reason a pure finisher like Haaland is actually the worst option as he would be feeding off of scraps in this United side and wouldn't be able to make chances for others.

DCL would fit the profile well, but is massively under proven, with just one good season under his belt.

Kane must be the obvious choice, EPL proven, top player, and more than capable of creating as much as he is at scoring goals.


5.) 14 Apr 2021 10:14:53
It's clear they'll need someone Ken. All of them have had injury problems - Rashford increasingly so. Cavani looks likely to leave. I'd love a galactico striker, but either way even if it's a curveball like Ing *shudders* they'll need a natural no.9 from somewhere. Maybe another journeyman, ala Higuin or Giroud.


6.) 14 Apr 2021 10:42:16
Similar to what Ken says, Haaland would be on the move after a couple of years .

If Kane moved he would have 4-5 good years in him plus he could potentially play as a 10 as he got older.

By the way, did anyone see the David Squires strip on Haaland's European sales tour in the Guardian? Very funny, especially the Mansour panel.


7.) 14 Apr 2021 11:45:02
I wouldn't have had DCL in a top 10 of potential Utd strikers. Just not even on my radar. Is it just because he's English? Not an inspiring choice for me to lead the Manchester United attack for years to come.


8.) 14 Apr 2021 13:01:34
Andre Silva, mentioned by the Ed, scoring goals in Germany and available for circa £40m ish if I remember. Not seen him personally.


9.) 14 Apr 2021 13:12:25
I wouldn't be surprised if we went for Ollie Watkins to be honest. No idea if we would be interested, I can just see one of the big sides taking a punt on him.


10.) 14 Apr 2021 13:51:48
Is Ollie Watkins any better than Greenwood?


11.) 14 Apr 2021 13:54:35
Red Man, I'm just not convinced by Andre Silva if I'm honest.

Good at several things but not great at anyone thing in particular. He's not particularly quick or strong, he's decent in the air but isn't great. He has good movement but not special. Solid technique, but lacking flair. His link up play is okay, but not particularly creative.

Like I said good at most things but not a standout at anything. Kind of a jack of all trades master of none sort of striker.

I'm also skeptical of all players scoring records in Germany. The Bundesliga isn't known for having many great defenders. With many forwards scoring for fun in Germany but struggling when they move to other leagues. We have had our fingers burnt with Kagawa and Mkhitaryan, both players who would score for fun in Germany but struggled in England. While both Haller and Werner also scored hat-fulls of goals in the Bundesliga but have struggled in the EPL.
Then you have Jovic who pushed Lewandowski for top scorer before moving to Real Madrid where he has scored 2 in 21 games.

I'm just not convinced that the scoring records seen in Germany necessarily translate to other top leagues.

It's one of the reasons I was a little skeptical about spending big money on Sancho. If you spend over 100m on a forward you expect them to be contributing at least 25-30 goals a season in goals and assist. Sancho is doing that in the Bundesliga but if his drop off is similar to what we have seen from other players then that could drop down to 10-12 goals a season. While seeing how he plays for the England national team has done nothing to dispel that concern for me.


12.) 14 Apr 2021 13:58:47
Caolan, I'd actually really like to see Watkins at a top club. Really good well rounded player, presses well, very quick, takes chances well, makes unselfish runs to create space for others and links well with those around him.

The draw back is seeing as Villa bought him for around 30m last summer, he is on a long contact and is now proven in the EPL. I would expect they'd want at least 50m if not more considering the "English premium". Especially if someone comes in and pays big money for Grealish, they won't need to sell and won't want to lose both in the same summer. Which could push the price up further.


13.) 14 Apr 2021 14:07:31
I love Ings, especially if we want a short term option.


14.) 14 Apr 2021 14:32:18
Blind won't be happy you moved on so quickly Tony. So fickle 🤣🤣.


15.) 14 Apr 2021 14:45:46
Kane!

Haland has his sights elsewhere and so should we.

Recently read somewhere DCL needs ten chances to score one goal. He had a good 1st half of a season, is that enough to come and lead the line at utd? Would bring in Mitrovic before DCL.

{Ed004's Note - Not convinced by DCL now the purple patch is over and as much as I would love Haaland - how long before he pushes for a move. Currently I would probably edge towards Kane but can't see Levy dealing with us}


16.) 14 Apr 2021 15:51:59
Given that there have been discussions for and against the listed strikers, my shortlist/ wishlist of strikers that I would choose apart from them are:


Proven strikers:

Lautaro Martinez

Raul Jimenez (PL proven - remains to see how his comeback looks like)

Punts on younger strikers:

Patson Daka (He might be more of a rotational option to start with and would involve Cavani staying on or a Cavani like signing for next season)

Darwin Nunez.


17.) 14 Apr 2021 18:15:05
DSG my reason is that Levy is going to charge a monster fee for Kane who appears a bit injury prone and we shouldn’t ever have dealings with Haaland because of his agent.


18.) 14 Apr 2021 18:47:30
Has to he Kane. He’s a class act.


19.) 14 Apr 2021 21:32:53
Thanks Ed for the poll, neck and neck haaland and kane, had a feeling it might be. I added DCL because I heard Rio bang the drum for him, tbf I could have added option D, someone else. Andre Silva I've read we may be offered, not sure he's what any of us would want or seen much of to determine. I could have added option E keep Cavani but I am presuming he will likely be leaving. Andrea Belotti in an above post is a good shout, I wanted him when we was linked but again not seen much since that time of him, glad the poll attracted such traffic, cheers guys and Eds.


20.) 14 Apr 2021 22:15:13
I'd have a look at Ivan Toney, he could be next seasons Watkins. scoring goals for fun in the championship, big, strong and quick. thoughts?


21.) 14 Apr 2021 22:33:11
Kane for me.
DCL is ok but not seeing the consistency.
Haaland yes but I hate his Dad and wouldn't want us to line his pockets.
Andre Silva a maybe
Ollie Watkins or Ivan Toney. No.

Parson Daka as a wild card.

I'd like Ronaldo back for a year or two then Greenwood taking over.


22.) 14 Apr 2021 22:39:31
Spenno, that's a little harsh in my opinion. I think he looks very similar to Kane when he when he broke through as a slightly "older" player who wasn't thought of as a future top striker.

He had Will Keane whose a similar age to Kane, but was considered by most to be far more talented at the time.

I'm not saying DCL will go on to be as good as Kane, but he is EPL proven to an extent.

I also think there are a lack of genuinely top class options out there who we could realistically sign. That probably bumps DCL up the pecking order in most peoples eyes.

In a world where Kane will cost 150m, Haaland 120m then DCL suddenly becomes a more viable option.


 

 

04 Apr 2021 09:36:27
Anyone else sick to death of games spread out like they have been. Seriously today's fixtures in the prem are abysmal, all Live.
Please just stick 5 games on sat at 3pm again allow fans the choice to watch what they want live if they must via a red button or whatever.
Saturated with live games all spread out ober every day nearly feels like there is no switch off, I've literally no interest in any of it bar United and they test your patience most of the time.
Last weekend was lovely, F1, Rugby Union, last 6 nations game, no prem was nice, spoiled a lot by the boredom of international footy but a welcome break in the relentless prem schedule.

{Ed077's Note - think of other regions as well. Like Asia or Africa. Not every place has a "red button" option.}


1.) 04 Apr 2021 09:54:01
Ed077, surely for Asian and African countries having the games spread out causes more issues with timezones and everything. Watching a live match at 2am can't be fun, but if you have to stay up all night to watch all the games then that must be worse?

{Ed077's Note - true but people can watch their team play if all games are shown. If there are 5 games kicking off at ones, 3-4 games wont be shown, meaning fans will look to streaming options(illegally).}


2.) 04 Apr 2021 10:02:54
Yh I've kind of in agreement, at first during lockdown it had a great novelty value and was a welcome distraction.

But having games like (burnley vs west brom) or (crystal palace newcastle) with their own defined slots feels a bit unnecessary now.

Still find it quite funny some geniuses at premier league club board level thought people would pay £15 to watch such games on pay per view as if burnley west brom was some sort of world heavyweight championship boxing match.


3.) 04 Apr 2021 10:15:05
Get what you mean Ed but if the games are played at 3pm, say 5 of them, and your teams playing with an actual option of watching Live then do that if every game must be live that is. Like today from midday to 9.30pm games on, way way too much, and that's basically most days now especially weekends, just prem that aswell, not even looked at other fixtures.

{Ed077's Note - too many games are being spread out I agree. But having 5-6 games Kickoff at once is also too many IMO. You could have had Southampton-Burnley and A.Villa-Fulham at the same time I agree. And I dont like Monday night football as well.}


4.) 04 Apr 2021 10:32:11
Ed077, I get that, I just think many people are feeling a little jaded with the whole football experience during the C.V.

I'm finding I am watching less football as I feel the level of quality has dropped slightly, and without fans in stadiums games on TV are lacking atmosphere and intensity.

I fully expect it to impact viewing figures for the Euro's this summer.

Maybe a better solution is rather than spread the games out, is to invest in better viewing platforms around the world so things like picking which match to watch via the "Red button" is an option for everyone.

{Ed077's Note - Not having fans means you need to be fully invested to actually watch a game(not just have it on TV whilst actually doing something else).}


5.) 04 Apr 2021 12:01:19
I agree there are too many games but I kind of understand that all the teams need the money at the moment with no fans and little other revenue coming in.
After all, it is still up to us whether we watch a game or not, on the red button or not. Sky, BT and Virgin won't mind because they are still benefitting from our cash. I get that fans in other countries have less options and probably it may be the highlight of the week.
The main problem is that the pundits have to generate the interest.
There are no fans therefore no atmosphere. City are nailed on for the title. United are just trying to win or at least not lose games. Very few people are interested in who is top 4 and who gets relegated,
Hopefully next season things will return to normal and so will the interest level.


6.) 04 Apr 2021 13:05:13
Can’t believe football fans are complaining about too much football on TV. If you don’t like it watch something else.

Yesterday we had Chelsea v West Brom, Leicester v City then Arsenal v Liverpool it was a fantastic day of premier league football.

I actually like watching all the other teams. We get to see players play the full 90 minutes so we can judge them properly and not just rely on a few minutes of highlights on MOTD. I’ve enjoyed watching Villa to get a better look at Grealish, West Ham for Rice, the likes of Leeds and even Brighton and Fulham all play decent football. I personally have absolutely loved all the footy on tv and watch every game where I can.

You can still watch the rugby, F1, cricket or golf and the masters is on next week.


7.) 04 Apr 2021 13:56:01
First world problems or what? Jesus lads, people will literally moan about anything. If you don’t want to watch the games then how about maybe just not watching them?


8.) 04 Apr 2021 19:44:45
Ah yes, forgot, not allowed to air an opinion on this site. Nothing about 1st World problems are not watching its just a topic I raised, I for one am fed up of the saturated nature of footy atm, its a turn off for me, if you want to watch then that's your opinions and that's fine.


9.) 05 Apr 2021 00:05:25
Totally agree and that’s exactly what I just said to you.


 

 

 

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26 Apr 2021 14:56:34
I love a sharkopod. Will Sparky be helping you out with it Ed?

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17 Apr 2021 09:08:42
A no ta from me.


 

 

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22 Mar 2021 07:38:40
Wouldn't touch Grealish with a bargepole, £100m English premium, no ta, Neto feels much more a United player to me.


 

 

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10 Mar 2021 00:26:55
Thanks Ed, I thought it odd tbh but then again we have done things in an odd way recently.


 

 

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28 Feb 2021 19:14:01
I think Brandie is good enough never let us down.


 

 

 

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08 May 2021 10:27:52
I think. its important to capitalise on Leicester losing and secure 2nd, rotate vs Leicester, full strength vs Liverpool and then tbh last 2 games hopefully will be meaningless and manage mins ahead of the final.


 

 

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07 May 2021 07:31:48
I don't think our defence is any good at all, opinions like. Shaw very poor defensively, Maguire is our best CB yet he is himself prone to a stupid decision, Bailly I like but erratic, Lindelof for me is bang average, wan bissaka is our best defensive defender, Telles is awful, Brandie is ok, those descriptions don't win you premier leagues or champions leagues, we play x2 DM to cover these shortcomings and you see in an open game with x1 DM we ship 5 to an average Roma team. World class CB needed desperately then maybe ditch the x1 DM.


 

 

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06 May 2021 08:25:38
Tbf protests have been around for the entire 16 years on and off, not as ferocious as the other day of course but as DLIB says the ESL has lit a fire under the protests again. I can see both points yes we have spent money and won leagues under the Glazers, spent poorly by people in positions that shouldn't be mind, but we have fallen behind both on and off the pitch, yes our ground is rusting, our training ground is sub par, look at City, Leicester and Spurs now, spend some cash on the infrastructure, develop around Old Trafford, wether its woe is me or not that's what you have to do to keep up with the City's of the world unfortunately and compete, best in class all round. The green and gold campaign was there when we was winning titles under fergie, some may choose not to remember but I'm sure fans of FC United remember well, I've been to a few of their games and yes the club that was created because of the campaigns and anti Glazer that apparently didn't exist until the other day lol. Everyone entitled to their opinion but at least don't demean fans anger over this 16 year period, its not just 1 day last week and Tbh I am disappointed at some that are so apathetic to the ownership, like its OK, we won a league 8 years ago, we don't compete anymore warning signs have been there for a long time under this ownership. I'm also rather amused at the Liverpool perspective, they led everyone into the ESL, fuming so they was, how dare they do this with my Liverpool and now suddenly everything is OK with their owners cz its 'gone away' and united are **** for 1 arrest and minority idiots in the majority peaceful protest.

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06 May 2021 08:10:23
Last one of the games is Liverpool Ken, I think Ole will rest most vs Villa after Roma game.


 

 

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06 May 2021 08:09:17
Very forgettable both finals tbf.