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22 Aug 2021 17:56:56
Hi Ed’s,

United related or not, I expect not, but Ronaldo has asked to sit out of Juve’s first match today as he hopes for a move.

Madrid, City, PSG and of course ourselves are linked.

What are the chances of him moving this summer?

Cheers,

Fresh!

Fresh!

{Ed002's Note - The situation is exactly as I have previously explained.}


1.) 22 Aug 2021 20:55:30
Fresh, hw has done Madrid, done Manchester and Germany is boring.


2.) 22 Aug 2021 20:59:51
He will follow the money to wither PSG or retire to the sun with Inter Miami.


3.) 23 Aug 2021 06:00:20
Am I the only one who’d love to see him and Messi in the same team?


4.) 23 Aug 2021 09:51:26
Could he be city bound, would that affect his reputation at united.


5.) 23 Aug 2021 10:45:31
Why would it king?


 

 

23 May 2021 12:17:50
Found myself get a little excited that we are apparently prepared to sell Martial to help fund a move for Kane.

I desperately want to see Martial leave, I don't think we have missed him at all and his sulky demeanour grates on me every time I see him play.

Here's hoping for a good summer for once.

Fresh!

1.) 23 May 2021 12:45:23
It’s the excitement that kills 🤣…it will soon be replaced by reality and then disappointment. Only joking. I’m quite interested in the Danny ings rumours, no where near Kane obviously but would be a decent addition and allow funds to strengthen elsewhere.


2.) 23 May 2021 21:42:58
Danny Ings? What have we become.


3.) 23 May 2021 23:16:56
We’ve always signed players like Ings. Used to be to supplement an already immense squad. That’s the difference.


4.) 23 May 2021 23:33:18
Ings scores like a proper striker. Good goals messy goals. Technically good and never shirks working for the team.


5.) 24 May 2021 06:43:11
RWWD

The other and massive difference was we had SAF in charge.


6.) 24 May 2021 10:02:13
OMG Danny Ings. just what we need to jump to that next level. NOT!


7.) 24 May 2021 11:11:16
I’d rather sign Ings and a top drawer rw, cdm and cb than sign Kane and leave the other positions as they are. There are gaping holes in our team that need fixing, wasting our whole budget on Kane won’t get us closer to city IMO. Granted we might not sign quality in those other areas either but I live in hope.


8.) 24 May 2021 13:39:48
I think our squad as it is, is good enough to get a top 4 finish next season. That's our goal isn't it.

Another season of Cavani and I rather just develop Greenwood into the striker. No one going to pay any sort of fee for Martial. Probably get a ton of clubs happy to take him on loan though.


9.) 28 May 2021 18:41:05
I'd take Ings any day of the week over Martial. Regardless of whether we go in for Kane or not Martial needs to go. No passion and sulks like a two year old.


 

 

02 Aug 2020 16:58:35
Hi Ed's.

Just wondered if you comment on the future of Dwight McNeil please. He would be a wonderful addition to United in my opinion and offers something that we don't have - the ability to beat a man down the line.

Thanks!

Fresh!

{Ed002's Note - Burnley are not looking to sell Dwight McNeil although a trustworthy scout has been pressing Manchester United to declare some interest, he would do best to stay where he is for now. Whilst the likes of Cantwell or McNeil would help address the LM role they would not be starters at Manchester United and it could easily put a dent in career prospects. Burnley do not have the money problems that many of the Premier League clubs have so they cannot be pressured in to selling - and moving knowing opportunities will be limited makes little sense at a young age.}


1.) 02 Aug 2020 17:26:07
Wasnt he once in our academy? Maybe he will one day like to return and prove us wrong for letting him go early?


2.) 02 Aug 2020 19:06:23
Thanks Ed as always.


 

 

24 Jul 2020 19:01:14
Silly season is almost upon us!

The 'reputable' Athletic are reporting United are in talks for Coman. Is there any truth in this? Great player but could it be a leaked bit of nonsense to help push the Sancho deal along.

Fresh!

1.) 25 Jul 2020 01:35:29
probably United leaking a story to try pressure dortmund in to selling sancho.


 

 

04 Dec 2019 11:40:33
Excuse my ignorance but has the Ed put together a January transfer target post yet?

Fresh!

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 04 Dec 2019 12:04:18
Might you have time this month Ed? Would be a great read.

{Ed002's Note - I will try Fresh!.}


2.) 04 Dec 2019 12:18:36
Hugely appreciated as always.


3.) 04 Dec 2019 12:23:13
One of my friend close to a football agent said we will push really hard for Declan Rice in the January window.

Hope Ed002 puts a sharkapod to genuinely know who our list of targets are and which amongst them will be practically possible.


4.) 04 Dec 2019 15:35:52
Really feel that would be a dumb move and another overpriced purchase.

Kalvin Phillips represents better value and has more about him.


5.) 04 Dec 2019 16:50:11
Rice is a cb playing in cm. I don't see him pulling up trees at West ham.


6.) 04 Dec 2019 17:09:31
Rice is an excellent young player, from a defensive view point he reads the game really well, and as an ex-defender his tackling, and timing of when to tackle is top notch. While he is also strong in the air and hard to knock off the ball and mobile. As a physical presence he can dominate the area in front of the CB's and offers a great shield in front of the back four.

However, as a side aspiring to reach back to the top level of world football is Declan Rice the sort of midfielder a top side will need every week?

Sure when up against another top side who'll have a fair bit of possession and who will look to get at your defence as often as possible he is a great player to have.

But against 90% of sides who will look to sit back and try and hit you on the counter, how useful is Rice?

On the ball he is good at recycling the ball but he doesn't offer much in the way of creative forward passing, he isn't the guy to set the tempo.

The type of player Declan Rice is, means he is the type of player we will only need 10-15 times a season. You don't spend 80m on a player like that.

While Kalvin Phillips isn't as good as a defensive shield in front of the back four (he's still pretty good), he offers much more to the team when in possession. Which when you consider he will likely cost half of what Rice would. He makes much more sense as a signing.


7.) 05 Dec 2019 11:42:26
As a midfield player rice has nothing on McTominay. I agree that he’s a Centre Half.


 

 

 

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Manchester United - Short term pain for long term gain

07 Mar 2022 12:56:35
{Ed's Note - Fresh! has posted a new article entitled, Manchester United - Short term pain for long term gain

Fresh!

1.) 07 Mar 2022 13:43:18
Interesting article. Agree with most of it but I would exclude Bruno (an over-rated whinging player who struggles to find team mates with passes), Fred and McTominay. They are simply not good enough.


2.) 07 Mar 2022 13:55:51
I really don't think the club understands what is wrong. They are so painfully out of their depth that they cannot see how out of their depth they are.

Like a panicking drowning person we keep calling out for help (a new manager) only to not trust them when they swim to our aid so we panic and drag them down with us.

Unprepared to trust and give control over to the person who knows how to swim.

There is what I call associated arrogance from our club. People within the club acting in an arrogant manner having done nothing to warrant it, but they feel they can because they work for Manchester United. By that I mean they have an arrogance because they are Manchester United, yet that arrogance is misplaced because nothing about what made Manchester United great has anything to do with them.

They did nothing to make United a great club, but act Billy big bollocks because they are now apart of the club.

The squad needs a fundamental overhaul. We have players who on paper should be good enough, but they just can't do it on the pitch. Poor attitude, or woefully unsuited to the way the club should be playing.

We NEED to bring in 4 or 5 players at least this summer, maybe 6. Yet I fear the club will look to making another marquee signing to show off the size of their bollocks. With one or two others joining.

Instead of paying 40m for someone like Tchouameni or signing Kamara on a free they will spunk 100-120m of the club's budget on Rice. No doubt in my mind that Rice is probably the better player currently. But we don't have the luxury of hand picking a cherry on top player to add to a great squad.

Rice by himself is like trying to use your hands to hold back the tide. We need a flood defence system, not King Canute.

We all know what our club needs, that is what makes watching the current people fail so badly so hard.

I probably watch 5-6 full matches of football a week, sometimes more. Yet watching my own side has become a chore now and not a pleasure. I watch out of obligation, my hope has died.


3.) 07 Mar 2022 14:38:03
As I said above shappy you lauded ole and these players. If it takes you years for the penny to drop and you spend 12 hours of your week watching matches which is approximately 10% of the time you are awake then it's a sad look out.


4.) 07 Mar 2022 16:06:31
Well said ken.


5.) 07 Mar 2022 16:39:10
Ken, we are all on the outside looking in. We sign players who on the face of it seem like decent signings. Yet none of us know the character of these players, only after they repeatedly fail under different managers can you really come to the conclusion that they have a weak mentality.

Maybe they were taking time to settle in a new country or for a new team, maybe they didn't suit the second managers style of play, but when they are still not performing under the third manager you run out of excuses and are left with the only sound conclusion left. They aren't good enough or mentality strong enough.

Maybe my rose tinted glasses were on for a bit too long, that's me though, I look naturally look to the positive. It means I make a few more mistakes maybe, but it also means that I'm happier than those with a pessimistic outlook. Give me the choice between being happy or right and I'll choose happy every single time.

{Ed025's Note - thats why im a big fan of klopp shappy, he signs players who have the right attitude first and foremost before ability, he also cites that if they are religious it helps due to moral grounding, it makes you think mate..


6.) 07 Mar 2022 17:23:35
Ed025, Sir Alex insisted on meeting the families of the players we were looking to sign BEFORE signing them. He used to say you could tell more about a player from their family than an agent or a scout could ever tell you.

It also meant that he had really shown an interest in the player. On more than one occasion he'd bring up something about a players personal life, where they grew up, how their parents had to live etc to motivate and keep a player focused.

The old adage is that "hard work beats talent when talent forgets to work hard".

You can't work hard without the right attitude, you need a winners mentality to be a winner. Doing just enough is never enough.

In the right set up, with the right group of players a team of commited players will beat a team of talented but lazy players 9 times out of 10.

We don't seem to pay any attention to a players mentality. We just seem to be interested in signing the player that will get the most likes and shares on social media. The big name player who some executive can just name drop into the conversation at the next sales pitch to get another sponsor.

The club is geared up backwards, instead of running a business to support a football club, we are running a football club to support a business.

Sporting decisions are made to aid the club finances. Refusing to sell Pogba because he's was the player with the most "brand appeal" and because they didn't want to look like a club a big name player would want to leave.

It's all about appearances, but we have no substance.

{Ed025's Note - your spot on shappy mate..


 

 

03 Nov 2021 20:04:25
Quick question - has anyone seen Shappy's credibility? If so, please do return it to him.

I haven't read all the responses to my post, but the one that says Ronaldo is the issue baffles me. The post also goes on to say that Ronaldo has exposed the manager for, essentially, not being good enough. This I agree with whole heartedly, but how that's a bad thing I will never know.

Anyone, with half an ounce of footballing knowledge, can see that Ronaldo is carrying us and scoring goals from half chances. He's getting no service from the dynamic duo that is McFred, but I suppose that is Ronaldo's fault.

Maguire's inability to run, turn, move or even stand in the right spot is also Ronaldo's fault as, if he had pressed, then the ball would never get near Maguire. Ronaldo is also at fault for the weak wrists of De Gea last night as he hogged the dumbbells. Oh, and Ronaldo is also to blame for Ole being a clueless, out of his depth coach whose greatest success is relegating Cardiff.

Fresh!

1.) 03 Nov 2021 20:43:30
Shappy had credibility?


2.) 03 Nov 2021 20:55:24
The posters who were on the side of Ole are still very much on the side of Ole. Adding the obligatory thinly veiled "He's taking us as far as he can" and then blame everyone other than the manager for our problems isn't fooling anyone.

Blaming Ronaldo for our poor form is a ridiculous argument. The facts would be that last year we went to the well many times to rescue results. It was always going to be more difficult with fans back in the stadiums. Adding also to other teams getting better and we've gone backwards. This is self inflicted. The manager has been bought an entire first team and he hasn't a clue what to do with them.

By the time this ordeal is over, I would nearly be in the mindset to take his OLEGEND flag down. He doesn't have the club's best interests at heart.


3.) 03 Nov 2021 23:29:44
I believe Ole’s greatest success is actually winning two championships with a club that had never won the league as well as a national cup, but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good bashing.


4.) 04 Nov 2021 00:29:50
LLV, The Norweigian league is ranked 23rd in terms of quality of all domestic leagues. The Premier League is ranked number 1.

Winning those league titles was currency to get him the Cardiff job. He took over when they were 17th in the league and relegated them. He spent some money that summer and was sacked after a poor run of form.

If you think that's a good enough C. V to manage United, there will be a very long queue of candidates for the job very shortly.


5.) 04 Nov 2021 05:14:06
LLV facts do show he won the 2 league titles with the city or Chelsea equivalent of Norway. But what happened after he left the 1st time? The next manager came in won the league playing better football, getting his team scoring more goals and concede fewer and achieving a much better points total than ole ever did that's a fact too.

Also a fact that in ole's 2nd spell at molde which you conveniently skipped over he won just as many trophies as he is winning at utd, but the moment he left the next manager won the league the very next season.


6.) 04 Nov 2021 07:57:54
Theres a very good manager who won the Indian Soccer League. let's give him the United job next if that's the criteria to manage the biggest club.


7.) 04 Nov 2021 08:16:34
Mumbles, where did I say it was a good enough?

What has the league’s status have to do with winning it, it’s still competitive, just on a différent level. Ole took over when the club had recently dropped down a division, and celebrated the club’s 100th anniversary with their first title. It’s not like he did this with Rosenberg.

Molde are not the City or Chelsea of Norway. That being said, under CSM’s logic Pep doesn’t deserve the praise so many give him because he won the league with City.

Also, I don’t get the shock at relegating Cardiff, that’s akin to Norwich, Fulham or West Brom being relegated and everyone being surprised, it’s not like Cardiff were highly competitive with expectations of a mid-table or Europa qualification finish.

I will stress though, so no assumptions are made, that this is not written in defense of Ole’s tenure at United, merely to point out how dismissive some are of his past achievements, and how a far from shocking relegation, with a team expected to be in the thick of the relegation battle, is used to dismiss those achievements even further.


8.) 04 Nov 2021 09:33:46
Fresh, kind of you to wonder where my credibility is. But I think it's just fine. If I had no credibility then my post wouldn't elicit a response. As you simply don't need to respond to something with no credibility.

I do wonder where your common sense is, as only a fool would state they have come to a definitive conclusion while admitting they hadn't read all the facts. To do so at best shows a lack of common sense, at worse shows a deficit of intellectual thought.

Adding a new player changes the dynamic of a side, it can either improve that balance and make everything click as the signing of VvD did at Liverpool, or it can create imbalance and make the side struggle more.

In my opinion, and that of many pundits, the signing of Ronaldo has created an issue that Ole can't seem to find a solution to. He is unable to make the side play in a balanced way with Ronaldo.

Obviously Ronaldo's brilliance is getting him out of jail most the time. Yet as I pointed out yesterday Ronaldo wasn't here last season when other players were bailing us out. So there is a serious question as to whether the addition of Ronaldo has currently elevated the side or just middied the water.


9.) 04 Nov 2021 11:28:08
Shappy for me a CF can't unbalance a team they are required to do the least amount of work of any out field player usually. All we have done is replace Martial with Ronaldo and ronaldo is better in almost every single way does ronaldo work les than martial I don't think so I think ronaldo runs more than martial makeing us slightly better work rate up top?, also you state liverpool signed VvD and everything click which for me your wrong they signed 3 players that made a difference and a decent squad player

Mohamed Salah – Roma – £36.9m
Andrew Robertson – Hull City – £8m
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain – Arsenal – £35m
Virgil van Dijk – Southampton – £75m

I also think it wasn't until Allison was purchased the season after that liverpool really pushed ahead. So cut a long story short the team is playing worse this season because of the manager not the signing of Ronaldo.


10.) 04 Nov 2021 12:05:12
Dio, of course a CF can unbalance a team. He is a personality that engulfs the club.

I'd imagine he has put Pogba's nose out as the new highest earner.

Plus players might look to him rather than do things themselves.


11.) 04 Nov 2021 12:33:45
Shappy if, Ronnaldo has unbalanced the team, then imo he is not the problem-: the problems lies with the others.
Cr7 epitomises what you can gain and achieve with hard work and bloody mindedness and if senior players don't want to be the best they can, they are stealing a living and depriving those that do/ would ie probably the younger members.
Its been mooted theat pp, Aka billy big balls has had his nose put out - well so he should, he has underperformed as much as anyone but the players who put in a shift get blasted because they are maybe less naturally talented. Give me 10 players who try rather than a few superstars that don't bother, but cr7 is both.


12.) 04 Nov 2021 14:05:28
Funky, the issue is that it's a team game. While I agree that if a player like Ronaldo unbalances the squad then the problem is the other players. The reality is that you can't move on 24 players to suit 1.

Ronaldo is a huge player, a genuine superstar. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but our players don't seem quite sure how to react with him. When Bruno scores they all dive on him without question, when Ronaldo scores they run over to him but there is a hesitation about whether they can or should jump on a player many consider the GOAT.

Are our players intimidated or in awe of him? Do they expect him to be able to dig them out. When they have a good chance to shoot or to pass to someone else do they hesitate and look for Ronaldo? If every attacking move is looking for Ronaldo do we become predictable and easy to defend against?

Of course a forward player, especially one with the reputation of Ronaldo can unbalance and alter the natural balance of the squad.

The trick is a great manager would harness that and keep the balance. Ole clearly isn't that man. However, had Ronaldo not joined the club then maybe Ole would still have more balance in his squad. Maybe we would be better off overall.

Ultimately Ole fails because he isn't good enough. However, it's the addition of Ronaldo that has tipped the balance and made it clear. Forcing the issue.


13.) 04 Nov 2021 14:29:22
More waffle, look at before Ronaldo, we were crap too for past seasons, and what’s Ronaldo got now 9 goals, that’s more then some of our strikers in the whole of last season, your deluded if you think Ronaldo caused the problem this season the problem always been there, not helped by stupid purchases, perhaps it’s the Sancho purchase that caused the problem, no wait he not scored or even made 1 assist yet was purchased at same time as Ronaldo, stupid statement, Shappy, the problem I’d Ole been found out, other teams know how to stop united as they only have one way of playing, it’s simple as that, nothing more nothing less.


14.) 04 Nov 2021 15:34:19
Jens, at this point last season we scored 26 goals in all competitions, this season we have 28.

Ronaldo hasn't added a huge number of extra goals to our side.

He is scoring some goals that last season other players were scoring.

People make this mistake all the time, they think adding a 30 goal a season striker will increase the number of goals the team score by a similar number.

The reality is they take someone else's place in the side and take minutes away from other players.

That's why it's rare for a side to have two or three players all score over 30 goals a season.

If you want us to score more goals it's not the guy putting them in the net that needs to change but the guys who are creating the chances.

If our side has an average of 12 shots a game, with an XG (expected goals) of say 2, then we should be scoring around 2 goals a game. If we have an amazing player who scores low chance of conversion shots then maybe we might push that up to an average of 2.5 goals a game.

However, if we improve chance creation to creating 16 shots a game on average with an XG of 4, then we will likely be scoring around 4 goals game. Even if we under perform our XG then we'll still likely average around 3. Which is still better than simply signing a more clinical player.

If we create more chances and more importantly more high quality chances then we will score more on average than by simply signing a more clinical player.


15.) 04 Nov 2021 15:49:10
Shappy -I hear your points. We don't have to move on the no's you say but I get it. I think like Jens, the players had a diligaf mentallity prior to his arrival and seriously think we have a fair number who should/ could benefit from his mentality.
If we didn't sign him the possible situation we could be in as a team is even more frightening because aside from a few of OGS must have picks the grit and determination isn't enough. We have players but ogs doesn't pick them so yet again he carries the the can.
We are facing a tough run of games and god forbid an injury or suspension because I can't see the positivity if Ogs keeps on picking/ playing as he does.


 

 

03 Nov 2021 08:24:41
How long does this go on for?

If it wasn't for Ronaldo we would be in the bottom half of the table and most likely out of the CL already.

What are the Board seeing with Ole? There's no tactics, no improvement, players regressing under the coaching staff and generally poor decisions.

I'm so disappointed that Spurs have got Conte. They've landed a winner a top 5 manager in the world. Meanwhile, we've stuck with Ole who, frankly isn't even a top 12 manager in terms of ability.

Fresh!

1.) 03 Nov 2021 09:17:50
Or alternatively without Ronaldo in the squad we would have a more balanced team and not be conceding as many goals and maybe be playing better as a team?


2.) 03 Nov 2021 09:40:06
I think this is one of the problems that Ole has in attack. Individually Ronaldo/ Greenwood stats will look really good (and I love both) however I think that Ronaldo needs someone else up top with him or actual wingers that we have not been playing. Greenwood similar, stats wise he might look great on the right but he does not offer the best route for the team as looks to shoot rather than cross too often.
Unfortunately solving the Ronaldo issue leads to issues elsewhere. But, as Fresh said he has certainly saved Ole recently.


3.) 03 Nov 2021 09:48:58
I do think it's a bit of a paradox with Ronaldo. He is of course being seen as saving us in a few games and scoring a few belters along the way, but we are having to play in a certain way to accommodate him at the same time, maybe leaving us more exposed. Hence the new formation which has conceded two in two. The next one is the test of the longevity of this formation but as he has avoided defeat since Liverpool I no longer think the City clash will dictate his fate. Had they lost all 3 I think he'd be gone.


4.) 03 Nov 2021 09:51:17
Are you serious Shappy?

The reason we are conceding goals is our centre forward?

That’s absolute nonsense. The reason we concede goals is because there is no defensive organisation. Ole’s idea of defensive strategy is hold shape and hope for the best.

We have a defence that cost around £200m and they can’t keep a clean sheet. Did we buy poor defenders for massive money or is there problems with the coaching?


5.) 03 Nov 2021 10:20:33
They all know what the problem is. But it's better to single out individual players, rather than the inept manager and his clueless coaching staff serving up their version of the United Way and DNA. Some are desperately clinging to hope that Ole would suddenly do a 360 and become a good coach. Even going as far as comparing his tenure to that of Sir Alex when he just came in. Wake up people. Ole will never ever ever ever be a good manager no matter how hard he tries or believes he is.


6.) 03 Nov 2021 10:31:30
Yeah shappy it's nothing to do with the borewegian fraud and everything to do with Ronaldo.

Get a grip. Delusional.


7.) 03 Nov 2021 10:32:55
It's hilarious that people are saying it's Ronaldo's fault we are poor.

Maguire is hopeless but he wouldn't be if Ronaldo pressed more? Fred and McTominay struggle to pass forward but if Ronaldo kept running the channels they'd find him for fun?

The reality is Ronaldo is 36 but is still one of the best forwards in the world. Create chances and he will score. He's too good at that to drop regularly so actually figure out how to utilise him and how to build a side to compensate for the drop in pressing from the front and be organised in defence/ midfield. We've been trying to accommodate players like Pogba or Maguire for years because they need someone next to them to do x or y to get the best out of them. Now we have one of the best ever and we're not willing to have a side compensate for him despite him saving results several times already this season. It's mad.


8.) 03 Nov 2021 10:40:37
We've won 3 out of our last 11 games.

I repeat, we've won 3 out of our last 11.

When that happens, you fire the manager. Either his coaching is poor, his tactics are poor, his decisions are poor, or he simply can't get the best out of the players.

So the only answer to all of those issues is.

You guessed it, you fire the manager.

It's quite simple really.


9.) 03 Nov 2021 10:44:42
Our manager has bought an entire backline and had 3 years in charge to organise the defence and they are getting progressively worse.

You can not blame the state of us defensively on Ronlado. We conceded first in nearly 2 dozens games last season. This is solely down to the manager and his incompetence.


10.) 03 Nov 2021 10:46:31
I think Italy away for most teams is a difficult place to go. The way they set up is a lot like we did against spurs and we restricted them to zero shots on goal. They are organised and get men behind the ball and make it difficult.
All this ronaldo rescued us is BS. The media narrative even when we get a good point away from home in Europe. Ronaldo is a goal scorer scoring goals, he does his job and does it better than anyone else.


11.) 03 Nov 2021 10:58:09
Ronaldo rescued us for sure. again.


12.) 03 Nov 2021 11:26:05
Pretty sure we conceded first in a high volume of games last season, our unbeaten away record was built on coming from behind. The issues have been there long before Ronaldo so it’s unfair to say he’s a factor behind it. Clearly it’s coaching and the fact that neither the defence or midfield play, work and move as units. There should be a cohesion between the two and there isn’t, look at some stills of the pitch and the players are dotted randomly all over the place.


13.) 03 Nov 2021 11:27:20
The team we have now, the starting 11 and the main subs we use. would be a dream team to take on as a manager! With the right person in charge, this team would be a team to fear.


14.) 03 Nov 2021 11:32:26
Posters will say the most outlandish things to defend the incompetence of the INEPT ONE.


15.) 03 Nov 2021 11:41:13
So ronaldo is now to blame for us conceding crazy amount of goals every game, ole cultists will really blame anyone but their one true lord.


16.) 03 Nov 2021 11:48:52
Lollllll I thought Shappy couldn't get any funnier but then this happened. Lolllllll.


17.) 03 Nov 2021 11:54:53
No credibility left at all imo Singh.


18.) 03 Nov 2021 12:23:13
I'm not defending Ole, he is where the buck stops.

Merely pointing out that both our performances and our results have nose dived since Ronaldo joined.

There could be many reasons for it, maybe the rest of the squad are working a little less and taking less responsibility because they think Ronaldo will do it.

Certainly most people probably agree that Cavani needs to play in our strongest 11, while we can't not play Ronaldo. That in itself forces us to alter our shape and tactics to fit them both in.

Clearly better coaching solves the issue, or a stronger manager prepared to bench a player with a big ego and handle that situation.

While Ole wasn't ripping up any trees he was steadily plodding along, the signing of Ronaldo seems to be the catalyst in a dramatic down turn in results and a clear drop off in performances.

Ronaldo wasn't digging Ole out last year as we coasted to 2nd place, yet this year with him we are struggling to stay in the top 6 let alone the top 4.

I'm not blaming Ronaldo, he's a great player and used correctly could be the difference maker between competing and winning.

Yet it is as clear as day that his mere presence is the catalyst in in Ole's downfall. it has highlighted his inability to get the best out of players or handle big egos effectively.


19.) 03 Nov 2021 12:38:34
Haven’t been posting long, but long enough to know this Shappy gentleman doesn’t know what he’s on about.

There are some players in the world that no matter what, when they’re available you accommodate. Ronaldo, Messi, Salah, Lewandowski but to name a few.

Ronaldo signing not only guarantees you goals (remember everyone creaming themselves about Kane or Lukaku who guaranteed you “25-30” a game) . Ronaldo brings in more revenue to the club in addition.

What I want to know is how Sancho feels. Greenwood came on yesterday in the exact place Sancho was signed for. Greenwood is a top player but Sancho needs a run in the team to get confident. VDB look good for the last 5-6 minutes. I fear he’s going to leave in January and go and kill it elsewhere.

I liked Pogba but he slows the play down too much and comes across arrogant but doesn’t back up the arrogance. Let him leave. Drop him and Maguire. Very impressed by Bailly- Ronaldo scored 2 goals but Bailly probably saved more than 2. Varane and Bailly at CD would be interesting pairing.


20.) 03 Nov 2021 12:39:11
Coasting were we shappy? We were in 6th position having 19 points after 10 games last season. May be its just me but i wouldn't call it coasting, only difference is city started slowly, the chelsea ole got found out in December and liverpool had a crazy injury crisis.


21.) 03 Nov 2021 13:01:37
SWYW, I'd imagine Sancho isn't over the moon about it. But honestly based on performances this season for Manchester United who deserves to play more Greenwood or Sancho?

If Sancho was signed for 25m no one would be questioning whether he should be staring more. It's clearly a situation where a players fee is so large it almost feels like it should guarantee them starting.

You force your way into the team with both your performances in training and with the minutes you are afforded in the first team when you get them.


22.) 03 Nov 2021 13:07:12
CSM, I'd say over the course of last season I'd best describe our performances as coasting. At no point did we look like we were giving it our all or performing at our best.

We half arsed it into second place. I don't for one minute believe that we could have finished second had Liverpool and Chelsea played last season in the same form they are playing this one.

Do you think we played last season at the best of our ability? The peak of our potential?

I don't think we got out of 3rd gear more than half a dozen times last season. I think we played at maybe 70% of what our side was capable of. Ergo I think its fair to say we coasted last season.


23.) 03 Nov 2021 13:13:41
Yet again spouting utter rubbish. The fact of the matter is, ole has finally been found out for the fraud he is. He cannot coach, nor can his team around him. We have the most prolific goal scorer ever in our team yet suddenly he's the reason Ole can't get a tune out of this team? He's not gotten a tune out of this team ever, he gets lucky results.

The lengths you will go to deflect blame from Ole is actually embarrassing.


24.) 03 Nov 2021 13:32:42
We can post, talk, shout as much as we want to but it is quite simple that the problem is Ole.


25.) 03 Nov 2021 13:57:23
We finished 2nd last year mainly because of C.V., Bruno and injuries to other teams.

If liverpool had their defenders fit we wouldn't have been 2nd.

Chelsea had a new manager last year as well or they wouldve finished above us.

Man City have a good manager and a hewlthy squad that's why they finished champions and to be fair they wouldn't have been champions either if Liverpool had their defenders fit.

Shappy you talk so much nonsense just to back Ole up it really is astonishing.

If Ronaldo wasnt there last night or the previous few nights I am very sure we won't have won any of those games as I don't trust any of the other forwards apart from Cavani who could get injured at any given time.

OLE didn't do anything special last year to get to second its the circumstances of other teams made him achieve 2nd.

This year is different and that's why we will struggle and we are where we are because of that and if it isn't for Ronaldo scoring and De Gea mking world class saves we would be out the champs group and probably around 7th or 8th in the league.

But No Ronaldo is the problemmmm Lollllllllllllll.


26.) 03 Nov 2021 13:58:50
Ken trust me I used to like reading his posts because he used to talk about tactics and stuff like that but now it is just Waffles after waffles to cover the previous waffle.


27.) 03 Nov 2021 14:02:10
RedWhiskey, what's embarrassing is your lack of comprehension.

At no point in my post have I defended Ole, you just think I am based on your preconceived ideas about me and what I post.

Take this first line of my post: "I'm not defending Ole, he is where the buck stops".

In what way does that sound like a deflection of blame from Ole?

I clearly state the buck stops with him, it is his responsibility and his failure.

What about this line: "Clearly better coaching solves the issue, or a stronger manager prepared to bench a player with a big ego and handle that situation. "

Does that sound like a defence or deflection.

There's a saying "when you assume you make an ass out of you and me". Just because you assume you know what I am/ will say that doesn't mean you are right in that assumption.

Many people on this thread I think have fallen foul of that.

Two months ago many people on here said the signing of Ronaldo would be Ole's downfall. Ronaldo wouldn't accept the poor performances, he is a winner, etc etc.

What I am saying here is that maybe people were right, but for the wrong reason. Ronaldo does indeed seem to be the catalyst for Ole's downfall. But rather than lead a revolt in the dressing room against him, he has shown Ole's tactical limitations and his naivety for all to see.

United aren't struggling because Ronaldo isn't good enough, but because Ole isn't able to create a side that gets the best out of him and the other players in his squad. Nor does Ole seem strong enough to drop some big personalities for the good of the team.

What I suggesting is if Ronaldo wasn't signed then maybe these issues wouldn't have been laid bare in such a public way. Maybe the raised level of expectation wouldn't have made more people ask questions of Ole's management. Maybe with one less option to try and squeeze into the line up things would be less complicated for Ole and easier to pick a team that works better as a collective. Maybe without Ronaldo we would have seen Sancho play more and give us a better balance.

If any of those have any truth in them then maybe its true that the signing of Ronaldo has been the undoing of Ole.


28.) 03 Nov 2021 14:18:42
Singh, learn to read without the blinkers on. I have been Ole out for weeks. I'm not trying to defend Ole or make excuses for him, or suggest the club keep him as manager.

Read what is written, not what you expect to read.

Clearly some people are under the delusion that ALL that is wrong with our club is Ole and the moment he leaves everything will be rosy in the garden. We'll win every game 5-0, go unbeaten and win the quadruple.

You're living in a fairy land. Ole is the a big factor in our problems, yet he isn't the only issue.

The poor running of the club, that includes signing players the manager hadn't planned on is a problem and will continue to be after Ole leaves. Players have a responsibility to work hard and play well. While tactics can make things easier or harder for them, they still have to take responsibility for their own mistakes and failings. Maguire won't become Beckenbauer when Ole walks out the door. Fred giving the ball away, Pogba not tracking his runner, Rashford running down a blind alley, Bruno taking a shot when others are in a better position are all individual mistakes that don't happen because the tactics were wrong.

Ole is a problem, he is stopping this side reaching its potential and he needs to be sacked the moment the club have a clear plan and a candidate to replace him.

But we do ourselves no favours if we don't explore every factor at our club and just try to simplify everything down to just one factor being at fault or to blame.


29.) 03 Nov 2021 14:48:18
Maybe Ole didn't really want Ronaldo but it was forced on by Ferguson and Woodward.


30.) 03 Nov 2021 15:00:52
Since anyone who questions you can't read, why don't you and anyone who you think can read explain be the below part

This is what you posted, which i replied to

Ronaldo wasn't digging Ole out last year as we coasted to 2nd place, yet this year with him we are struggling to stay in the top 6 let alone the top 4.

But apparently by coasting you mean without putting in your best effort, do you think we are putting in our best effort this season? otherwise aren't we coasting this season as well and in a similar position with similar points as last season.


31.) 03 Nov 2021 15:03:01
"If any of those have any truth in them then maybe its true that the signing of Ronaldo has been the undoing of Ole" Shappy, Ole was a crap manager before Ronaldo arrived, the only truth is, it doesn't matter who we sign, as long as the fraud that calls himself a coach is at our club, we will fail. The only thing he has is luck on his side.


32.) 03 Nov 2021 17:51:51
CSM, are you always this hyperbolic?

I'm not saying people who question what I say can't read. I'm saying people questioning something I haven't said can't read or comprehend what I'm actually saying. I have even given examples. Of them misquoting/ misunderstanding me based off of them assuming what I'm going to say rather than reading what I've actually said.

Are we giving our all this season? Probably not, we certainly aren't playing to our full potential so it would be fair to say we are coasting this season. Although maybe a better word to use would be drifting as we seem fairly aimless rather than unmotivated.

There are three differences between this season and last season for me.

Firstly, we have less points this season having played teams that are relatively poorer than those we played at the same point last season.

Secondly, this season we are steadily getting worse and things seem to be sliding.

Thirdly, there is supposed to be an improvement each season. You can't add players like Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo to a side and not see any improvement. If Ole can't improve the results with three world class players then he simply never will. He's peaked, this is as good as he can do. That might be enough when other sides are having a poor season, but he can't genuinely compete when other sides are playing well.

I'm not sure there is a lot of genuine comparison between last season and this.


33.) 03 Nov 2021 17:55:26
Inhope, Ole is an average manager who gets average results regardless of whether he has a good, great or average squad.

While Ronaldo signing doesn't either improve or reduce Ole's ability to coach/ manage. What it does do is create a potentially harder situation to manage effectively, especially for an average manager.

I think it's a little more than luck for Ole being able to dig out a result. But it's clear that it is not enough and it's time for the club to sack him and move on.


 

 

01 Nov 2021 10:17:42
Spurs showing a bigger club mentality than United, sad times. They have sacked a manager who isn't getting results and one where there's no clear roadmap forward. Sound familiar?

The indecisiveness of the powers at be now mean that we may lose out on a top 5 global manager who is up for the challenge of winnings things here. To make matters worse, we have a manager who will now play 8 defensive players week in week out, not because that's his preferred system but because he's trying to save his job. That isn't progressive.

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1.) 01 Nov 2021 10:49:41
The difference in mentality is scarey…I read that woody doesn’t want to sack ole as he’s leaving soon (I have my doubts) and he doesn’t want another negative on his CV. too many at the club protecting their own interests and not doing what’s best for the club as a whole.


2.) 01 Nov 2021 10:56:50
Conte replacing Nuno apparently.


3.) 01 Nov 2021 11:03:59
I don't think spurs are showing anything, maybe their preferred option is available so sacking Nuno was a good move, if Utd, s preferred replacement for ole is not available at the moment, what should be do? Knee jerk and appoint Spurs' preference?


4.) 01 Nov 2021 11:05:08
That makes zero sense. You don’t ‘show’ big club mentality by sacking a manager 10 games in. It’s a scapegoat tactic. The decisions go back to Levy on this one - stating from pochetino firing, mourinho appt, nuno appt. And now this. If they actually appoint Conte, who is no way going to be ok with Levy’s transfers, another disaster waiting to happen.

I hope United fans are not envious of the crisis Spurs are in. We have our own but wouldn’t trade places at all.


5.) 01 Nov 2021 11:23:47
Spurs showing they are complete amateurs sacking a Manager as soon as they have appointed him.

Jeez, we all know Ole is on borrowed time and has run out of ideas, but let’s not compare every action other clubs take with our own Board. Spurs are all over the place, Jose was a poor appointment, Nuno was 4th choice, and here they are again looking for another Manager. Yeah, they look a properly run club to me.


6.) 01 Nov 2021 11:26:55
MDB - They should of sacked Ole last week and replaced him with Conte (a world class manager) .
All this crap about Conte not being a fit for United is rubbish.
The more we leave this fraud in charge the further we fall behind from the likes of City, Liverpool and Chelsea.
I have serous reservations about us even finishing 4th now with West Ham playing great football. Leicester are always a threat and now Spurs having gotten Conte will be a completely different proposition now.
It's sad times, this club from top to bottom are a complete shambles.


7.) 01 Nov 2021 11:43:31
Ajh lots of business make bad appointments it is the height of professionalism to identify admit and fix a mistake because if you don't it can turn into a very big mistake.
Lot of folk on here think its a sign of weak management but its the sign of strong management.
Like Chelsea last year I expect sours to bounce back and get top 4.
I hope they do to reward the good management decision of recognising and admitting their error and having the foresight to rectify it before it becomes like a 3 year problem.


8.) 01 Nov 2021 12:58:41
Good to see we still call Ole a clown and a fraud when it is not his fault he is still employed. Classy lol.


9.) 01 Nov 2021 13:43:55
I don’t disagree ken, my wider point was that Spurs are as badly run as we are right now, players unhappy and wanting to leave, Jose was a bad appointment, as was Nuno, so they move onto another Manager.


 

 

27 Oct 2021 23:44:07
Club legend who scored a winner in a European Cup Final in the 90s has been sacked! Sadly, it's Koeman at Barcelona and not Ole.

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29 Aug 2021 22:40:56
True, he does!

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29 Aug 2021 21:39:25
We should of allowed Lingard to go to West Ham, allow James to go elsewhere and not have offered Mata a new deal. That would of enabled us to sign a midfielder.

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17 Mar 2021 11:51:25
Thanks Ed - I haven't seen enough of Laimer or Leon Bailey to play, can anyone shed some light? I've seen plenty of Ben White and I'm not a huge fan, he's ok but there are better options for (I imagine) cheaper. Andre Silva seems to have come good over in Germany and has a physical presence so could be a sensible move as Haaland is impossible.

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{Ed002's Note - Laimer is very well thought of and RBL are aware that there are clubs looking at Konrad Laimer for next summer and some of the interest is driven by the price of Zakaria which has put interested sides off. Bayern Munich have considered Laimer, as have Borussia Dortmund (as a Weigl replacement) and Manchester United (but not until they have sorted out their midfield problems).

Leon Bailey (LW/RW) A player who has had his mojo drifting away and Bayer Leverkusen are open to him moving on. Spurs are keen but want the price to drop further. Prior interest of Everton and Leeds has drifted away - Everton already being over loaded with players who are predominently LW and Leeds have preferred options. Arsenal or Manchester United may offer an option but Arsenal really need to make some decisions on their squad.}


 

 

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28 Jan 2021 20:04:56
I often think that ‘experience’ is misused. Just because he’s old and his legs have gone doesn’t mean he is any more experienced than Rashford whose player a couple of hundred matches in his early 20s. It’s certainly no reason to keep a player when their quality goes.

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23 Jan 2021 14:07:25
Form is temporary mate.

I could only see Grealish being played off the right or in a very attacking midfield 3 alongside Fernandes and a defensive midfielder. It would be exciting viewing, reminiscent to Xavi and Iniesta.

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04 Nov 2021 08:32:47
Mapperley.

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03 Nov 2021 22:41:26
Welcome - Nottingham here too. Small world!

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03 Nov 2021 21:17:05
I think the reason I don't play for United is my lack of football playing capability mate.

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03 Nov 2021 20:35:40
He only plays his favourites, and the hypocrisy last night when he asked Sancho and Donny to save his job was off the charts. Personally, if I was Donny I'd have scored an own goal just to get rid of the fraud.

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03 Nov 2021 20:06:19
I'm predicting 4-0 City. Maybe 4-1 if Ronaldo can magic up another.

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