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22 Jan 2017 19:35:13
Hi Guys

It will be interesting to see what the FA does to Arsene Wenger after he put hands on an official, probably nothing. If that was Jose he would probably be given a prison sentence.

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{Ed025's Note - you have to give up on that crap BB, the FA are not out to get united mate..its a persecution complex that is all in your mind..

21 Jan 2017 09:17:01
We not going for Fonte. Imagine the confidence that must be flowing through Jones and Rojo right now. What this also tells us is that Jose is looking towards the future rather than signing Fonte. Lindelof may be?

Must be going big in the summer. If he does succeed and brings in his players, I am scared to think the line up we will have come August.

Next year could be the year when Jose brings United back to the level where we truly belong.

Believable5 1Unbelievable

21 Jan 2017 11:53:26
Maybe he didn't want to pay that amount for someone who is 33? Looking to the future as you said.

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21 Jan 2017 13:08:56
£8 million is rather steep. The way Jones and Rojo have been playing and Bailly at the ACON: and Smalling in the bench then would he really have got much game time?

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21 Jan 2017 13:16:59
I don't think its the 8m that was the problem, it was him wanting a 2.5 year deal. With him 33 already that would mean he would be under contract until he's 36. He is a very very good player, but at his age his legs could go on him at any point, next season could very well be a season too far for him tk play at the highest level.

I think if he was after a 1.5 year contract with an option for another year then maybe we would have gone in for him. Apparently the length of contract was the stumbling block over renewing his contract at Southampton.

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21 Jan 2017 22:21:39
He's no better than what we have. Would have been a very average signing. It's not goals against we are struggling with. It's the profligacy up is the main problem.

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21 Jan 2017 06:48:27
Pep being reported as saying he, rather than his players, might not be good enough. What do others think?
Either way it seems that they have seen reality big Time. They know we have now got them in our sights and are starting to panic.
Is Pep preparing the way to jump ship?

Believable4 1Unbelievable

21 Jan 2017 08:39:53
He's pretty much blamed the players or the EPL after every result, not once holding his hands up to his own lack of understanding of the English game and it can't have done anything for the confidence of the players, so it's long overdue he shoulders some of the blame.

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21 Jan 2017 10:06:37
It was easy to see imo that pep couldn't be considered the best manager in the world until he took a job like city they need a hell of a lot of work to become a Barcelona or a Madrid or united I don't think his acquisition of players in the transfer window was great and maybe his decision to get rid of what could have been one of his biggest allies in Joe Hart was a disastrous one.

Having watched his teams and press conference for many years now he seems like a completely different man over here he looks jumpy and prickly and often befuddled by what's going on .

The look of disbelief on his face when he sees the effort of our so called "small clubs" against his beautiful football makes me chuckle and I for one am glad he didn't get the United job .

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21 Jan 2017 11:43:57
One of the Eds mentioned a year or so ago that Pep's transfer dealings on the whole are poor. Rijkard did the hard yards and pep just polished it at Barce, at Munich he inherited the best team in Europe and didn't really get them to reach that level again. I didn't think he would take the City job because the squad needed a fair bit of work and the players they did/ do have aren't really suited to the style he likes to play.

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21 Jan 2017 11:50:37
I think Pep needs longer for his teams to get to grips than most managers, but that isn't an excuse, it's bad management. He relies on his players being able to play a certain way and many of his current players are not capable, this shows he is a one trick pony. He is making a complete pigs ear of it, just like LVG did with us.

To be called 'World Class' managers is ridiculous to me, if they haven't shown they can deal with difficult situations. If any of us walked into a job and totally destroyed the productivity whilst we waited for it to all click "eventually" we would be sacked rapidly. A World Class manager should be able to 'manage' the transition and make best use of the players they have available as they make the changes for the long term future - knocking a house down and building something new is all well and good, but Man Utd and Man City can't afford to knock their house down, too much competition for that. It took us too long to get rid of LVG and I hope City make the same mistake, although Pep is undoubtedly more likely to get it right eventually much more so than LVG ever was - it's just whether he gets enough time.

Man City are getting their own taste of LVG and I like it. It's not hard to be a manager if you have the worlds best players in your team and they are used to playing a certain way (or can get away with a stark change because competition is minimal) . What's difficult is to juggle short term with medium term and Pep is not showing he is very good at it, he also seems like a spoiled child who is used to everything going his way. I thought he was cleverer than that, but even Joe Kinnear could win things with that Barcelona and Bayern team.

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{Ed001's Note - there are other problems with Pep. His way of playing only manages to work for a short period before the players start to lose their way. Which suggest a man management issue.

Secondly, and this is the big thing for me, and very much tied into what you are on about Beastie, with his only one way of playing, his teams only play well if everyone is on it. The minute any one player has an off day, the whole team falls apart. The quick passing has no margin for error built in to cope with players having off days. It then becomes very reliant on having a Messi-type to dig them out of a hole. City do not yet have a Messi to do that.

Thirdly there is his lack of defensive work. Pep does no defensive coaching. His teams are utterly hopeless defensively and rely on keeping the ball as their only method of defence. That is fine when you manage Bayern or Barca in their leagues, as all the smaller sides just roll over for them most of the time. However, in the Prem almost every side gets up for the big clubs and tries harder, if anything. That is something he has no plan to cope with.

I could go on about his tactical limitations etc, but I would end up taking over the whole thread if I did that!}

21 Jan 2017 13:00:17
Thanks everyone. Pretty well reflects my own feelings. I always thought that we dodged the bullet when he went to Citeh. I agree that at other clubs he was the figure head bathing in the kudos rather than than the driving force behind success. No doubt if he went to somewhere like RM he would regain the recently lost status of a top ten manager.
I am enjoying Citeh's discomfort as they discover they have an LVG clone come out of a great disguise!

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21 Jan 2017 13:31:02
I see him in Paris a perfect situation for him.

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21 Jan 2017 12:20:41
I absolutely agree with everything you say ed we are seeing the unravelling of the enigma I never actually believed he would come over and be the messiah like some did you only had to look at Barcelona whose success continued uninterrupted with tito and Luis Enrique it told me that it was the players and not the manager.

I'm a bit guilty to admit I'm really enjoying watching the weird pressers and watching guardiola flit about like a clucking Renton from train spotting 😁

Do managers have to do random drug testing ed?

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{Ed001's Note - hahaha maybe they should do!}

21 Jan 2017 12:42:32
Well put Ed and Beast. Couldn't have put it better myself. It all seems very rosy when you have Messi flanked by the best midfield pairing of the generation playing for you. In Spain there is absolutely no physicality involved. It's all very "technical". Premier League is a different beast where you have the likes of shawcross, Reid, jones bulldozing through the back of your players. His soft silky style is good to watch but not always practical. And it hurts most if a certain Aguero has an off day.

Jose is very adaptable and that's why I believe he is a better coach.

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{Ed001's Note - Iniesta was the difference for me. He is truly world class.}

21 Jan 2017 13:00:14
Totally agreed Ed. It's great to be able to coach when you have 80% possession of the ball with far inferior opposition trying to win it back. He is not used to being punished for losing the ball, players like Stones would be perfectly fine in his Bayern or Barcelona teams, but silly mistakes get punished in our league - too many of their players are not great with the ball and switch off.

As you say, you can't afford passengers and too many City players are coming to the end of their careers or are used to earning big money for doing things a certain (lazier) way. It will be very interesting to see how this goes, because there are a lot of teams with very good managers and a lot more suited to this league than what Pep is trying to do. I personally think he will run out of time and his ideas are too easy to pounce on. Most teams will relish playing City, massive scalp with a simple game plan to combat, just like Utd were under LVG.

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21 Jan 2017 18:34:15
and yet city are above united?

pep has a lot of work to do with city and a new league and team to contend with .
city will be there or there about this year and better next year imo

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21 Jan 2017 21:05:59
Jred,

City had a great start to the season and are gradually getting worse, united had a poor start and are gradually getting better, I think that's the difference.

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21 Jan 2017 21:16:04
Pep sounded almost suicidal after the game today.
I am beginning to think that he does not have the balls to fight back from a difficult situation. In short the premier has found him out

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22 Jan 2017 10:37:23
Sorry I must be mistaken. I thought this was a Manchester United rumoured site. Who gives a fig about Pep and city. We need to concentrate on the fact we are hammering teams in approach play, but can't put the ball in the net. Case in point against Stoke yesterday. These missed chances may be worth a point to us come end of the season, Possibly the one point which may get us back in the champions league

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20 Jan 2017 19:27:02
Concidering how well Andreas Pereira is doing at Granada shouldn't he have a fair chance to get in to the United squad next season?

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20 Jan 2017 21:29:02
With Morgan going I really hope he's givening a chance plus with bastian no doubt on his way out to mayb there's a squad space there I think mourinho will be looking to add at least 1 new central midfielder!

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20 Jan 2017 18:30:20
well so much for fonte made a step down to west ham

Believable3 1Unbelievable

20 Jan 2017 22:14:26
One last pay package before he retires.

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20 Jan 2017 22:45:47
Called it a few weeks ago. Never United quality!

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20 Jan 2017 11:13:23
Multiple press outlets are reporting our interest/ intention to purchase the services of Bernardo Silva.

I'm interested to hear other posters opinions of the player.

Believable1 1Unbelievable

20 Jan 2017 12:26:58
I like him, very good little player. Personally he would make more sense than someone like Griezmann.

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20 Jan 2017 12:27:13
Silky left footed player, touch, dribbling and passing in tight angles are all outstanding, though he is slight of frame. May be more suited to La Liga, but many players of his size have proven the doubters wrong in the Premier League.

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20 Jan 2017 13:49:39
Reminds me of David silva but more direct. Normally plays on the right but more left footed. Can't imagine him and greizmann coming in, might be wrong or 1 is 1st choice and the other 2nd choice.

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20 Jan 2017 14:57:20
He looks like a poor mans Stewart Downing

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20 Jan 2017 15:46:01
What would we all do without google (other search engines are available! ) eh? :)

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20 Jan 2017 15:42:02
given you bought depay i think you should keep out of it lvg.

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20 Jan 2017 20:17:44
Ha lvg that made me spit my wine out 😂

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20 Jan 2017 00:18:07
both manchester clubs are very keen on signing Eric Dier? i've heard this from a few people this week. any substance to this? would anyone know more?

Believable1 8Unbelievable

20 Jan 2017 10:29:54
Have a word fella. Why would he leave? Very settled, paid well, part of the project and a regular starter not to mention his partner in crime is also at the club.

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20 Jan 2017 10:53:19
He's not as regular a starter as he would like to be, plus his prefered position is at CB not midfield.

I suspect he would seriously consider a move if it ment playing every week at CB, especially if it comes with a nice big pay rise.

Thats not to say he will move or even if there is any interest in him. But I'm sure he would be prepared to entertain any offers.

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20 Jan 2017 11:21:36
Ok well he's been playing centre back most of the season, played most of the games bar the ones he looked jaded in at the beginning of the season. And to be perfectly honest I don't think he would entertain any offers and I certainly don't believe the club will. He's certainly our next captain in the making

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20 Jan 2017 12:08:28
Let's be serious Chiswick, if Utd were seriously after him, they would probably get him.

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20 Jan 2017 12:41:30
Let's also be honest mate. It doesn't work like that at all. I'm sure ed1 will recall the famous Bale post on YouTube that was quickly removed where he claimed he'd never play for Liverpool or man utd and allegedly said some unpleasant things about both cities. And it's probably why he has allegedly turned down utd twice. And to be fair the way your gaffer is treating rashford I wouldn't be surprised if it's him that may change clubs?

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{Ed001's Note - Bale has turned down Citeh a couple of times as well.}

20 Jan 2017 12:47:46
Is it me or the spurs fans have started speaking Liverpool language all of a sudden. You would notice the word "project" in most of their posts. Probably next year would be your year

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20 Jan 2017 13:11:22
It's good that clubs have projects instead of throwing money for a quick fix?

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20 Jan 2017 14:06:55
The spurs project has been going on for 50 years

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20 Jan 2017 15:48:07
your project will last only until one of chelsea city or utd come with a big offer for kane and one of them will in future, your ceo then is going to dump your project and try and get as much cash as he can for his star player and then spend a little of it one some nobody just like he did with bale, not to mention you manager will jump ship without thinking twice if one of the big boys come calling, just like he did when he was at southampton. So much for the project chiswick.

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20 Jan 2017 21:17:37
Chiswick,

Do you search the rumour pages until someone mentions a Spurs player then pretend you know all about them and that they definitely won't leave. You take it so personally when someone is linked with your player. I wouldn't want Dier as not sure he would improve us, also don't want Danny Rose but both of them you have come on here to tell us we have no chance when actually you have no idea at all. Probably saying the same when we signed carrick or when modric, bale etc left.

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21 Jan 2017 06:30:49
This chiswick fella's a bloody joke, really. Used to come on our site pretending to be a Liverpool fan.
Ed002 eventually called him out.

Frankly naive speaking about projects. Diet, like most footballers, will most certainly have his head turned by a) a massive pay rise and b) a step up. which any of City, United or Chelsea would be. regardless of the past seasons league positions and any "project".

It is a class issue and just the way football is, to be honest.

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19 Jan 2017 16:23:34
Hi Ed002.
With both morgan and it looks like Memphis leaving in jan do you see any other players departing this month.
We look a bit light in midfield should any of pogba Carrick or herrera pick up injuries as only fellaini and bastian there as back up midfielders and one of those has only played a couple of minutes so far this season.
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Firstly, I think that Scheiderlin and Depay were fringe players at best so they do not directly need replacing. With different timing and if replacements could have been found then Matteo Darmian,
Marcus Rojo and Bastian Schweinsteiger could well have left this month. However, the three full backs considered were not options and the centre back situation remains unresolved although they will still look to bring one in. Schweinsteiger does not need replacing but will ceetainly be on his way as soon as all parties find a solution.}

19 Jan 2017 17:18:54
Thanks ed. Appreciate the response. When you say the 3 full backs considered were not an option do you mean for this window or are they not an option in the summer either? Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Certainly not for this window and since enquiring one has signed a new contract and another would not likely be viable in the summer.}

20 Jan 2017 09:41:39
I don't think Fellaini is the only cover in the MF, we have Timothy Fosu Mensah and Blind has played there before as well.

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mbd              

20 Jan 2017 11:30:59
Mbd,

There's also Rooney, Mata and Lingard who can play in midfield. I think we're ok there, even if Schweinsteiger goes. On a positive note TFM might get more game time as well. February looks to be a busy month, with Europa league back on.

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20 Jan 2017 14:16:04
Blind mata Tfm and lingard have probably less than 20 games between then in the epl in midfield and if we need to rely on rooney to play in midfield then we can kiss top 4 goodbye just like we did last year and just like England failed in the euros. Not suggesting rooney playing in midfield was the only reasons for those failures but it was a major contributory factor. He is useless in there for a sustained period he has proven that.

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20 Jan 2017 08:38:25
Hi Ed002. You mentioned 2 fullbacks in your sharkopod (fabinho and semedo) can you please let us know who the 3rd was?

many thanks

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{Ed002's Note - David Alaba.}

19 Jan 2017 10:02:26
"I am angry with these reports suggesting Luke Shaw will leave Manchester United in the summer, "
"I am angry at the irresponsible journalism.

"Luke Shaw is happy at Manchester United and also, Manchester United are happy with him. "
luke shaws agent .

Believable5 4Unbelievable

19 Jan 2017 10:37:22
Somebody would want to tell mourinho!

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19 Jan 2017 10:48:21
somebody should tell the agent that a newspaper has run a different story, there always right

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19 Jan 2017 13:04:33
Wouldn't look at any rag when it comes to rumours. I'd be more inclined to watch mourinho's selection and of course listen to ed002 :)

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19 Jan 2017 13:22:03
The tabloid press is complete bollix I don't even buy papers anymore I read these pages instead at least 100% more reliable.

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19 Jan 2017 13:40:00
angle
you should read what ed02 has said about shaw down the page then

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19 Jan 2017 15:51:39
About him possibly being added to the list of outs for the summer? Yep saw that.

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19 Jan 2017 17:06:54
about him not being sold this winter pal and on the list at the moment .

dont why some fans are so desperate to sell players . in this case a young lad coming back from a awful injury .
just about signing superstars for some fans

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19 Jan 2017 17:12:33
Who said I wanted him sold?

The debate is whether or not mourinho does. Ed002 said he might be on the selling list in the summer? So I think there's a probability he might be sold.

I don't want him sold, I think he could be a fantastic LB.

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19 Jan 2017 17:36:12
i would say a lot of players could be on the list, that's life at a top team like united .
perform or move on, that's the pressure all players are under.
but in shaw case he has time on his side and to be fair i'd still on the comeback from injury

dont really get your op to be honest

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19 Jan 2017 21:22:17
Well mourinho has slated him public, and hasn't played him for quite a number of weeks. Self explanatory really.

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20 Jan 2017 15:00:19
Unfortunately it looks like Shaw is finished as a top quality player. I did wonder if he would ever come back to consistently be the player he was before his injury. Such a shame as the kid could have been the best Lb in the world for years.

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20 Jan 2017 18:31:55
injured self explanatory really

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18 Jan 2017 23:15:38
Hello everyone, few things for you to hear:

1. Mourinho is lining up Jack Butland as a replacement for De Gea (should he go to Madrid) . Apparently he still wants to move there eventually.
2. Luke Shaw is being offered to Spurs as part of a summer cash + player deal to bring in Danny Rose and Kyle Walker.
3. The last one is a departure from the club. It's looking more likely that Martial is off this summer with PSG waiting in the wings.

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19 Jan 2017 00:00:12
As crazy as that might seem. I wouldn't discount any of it.

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19 Jan 2017 01:07:45
I don't see any of these things happening.

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19 Jan 2017 10:22:12
You have absolutely no hope with our full backs

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19 Jan 2017 10:40:16
Chiswick,

Thank god for that, Rose is a horrible little sh*t and wouldn't want him anywhere near our club.

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19 Jan 2017 11:56:03
I'd prefer trippier to walker and rose is would be far from my 1st choice

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