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26 Mar 2024 11:28:56
Morning Ed.
Hojlund looks the real deal and I'm interested to see who the club look to bring in this Summer to provide healthy competition for him.
Who are the club considering in this position?
Thanks as always.
{Ed002's Note - If Greenwood and Rashford go then the club will look to an addition. The problem will be persuading someone to join who may be second choice.
Jonathan David (S/AM) Lille, like many French clubs were hit hard by the loss of broadcast revenue and will need to sell some of their more valuable assets even though they do not want to. Jonathan David is valued by Lille at an unrealistic €50M but moving in to the last year of his contract will need to accept perhaps 30M. Napoli and Spurs no longer see him as a possible addition. Real Madrid have previously declared an interest but their focus has turned away as they wanted to include a player in any deal. He has been recommended to Chelsea by an ex player but they have a preferred targets. The Manchester United coach tried to take him to Ajax and could potentially look to taking him to Manchester United - and I would not discount them even if ten Hag departs. Aston Villa or Milan may offer a viable solution.
Joshua Zirkzee (S) Manchester United had a third-party scout watch him in a game against Roma in December. Milan has declared an interest knowing Giroud is coming to the end of his contract but don't know if Zirkee will match his goal tally. Bayern Munich have an option to buy the player back but will likely not be interested in following up on it. Napoli offer an option when Osimhen moves. Milan will be favourites as they want Sesko and Zirkee. Player will not move to become cover or second choice so would need persuading to join Manchester United.
Victor Osimhen (S) Napoli made it clear to Chelsea who enquired in 2021 that even €100M would not buy the player - but they do maintain an interest and he has been first choice and expect an offer to be made in the summer - they have already assured Napoli that they will pay his release clause in full. Al Hilal may well have offered Napoli the huge fee they were looking for, but that may not suit the player just yet. Real Madrid could look to him as an option but Madrid would want to offer players in exchange. He has signed a new contract and, at the behest of his agent, included a release clause. Arsenal have a preferred option and see the price as too high. PSG have him on a list of potential Mbappe replacements - but perhaps not top. If Manchester City were to lose Haarland, he would be an option. Manchester United may offer a wildcard option but the change of staff could end any interest. There is a suggestion that Liverpool have negotiated directly with the player and his agent and not spoken to Napoli. Given Napoli registered a complaint against Liverpool over another player last year, it would seem unlikely, or particularly stupid. In the players hands next summer - may decide to stay but there will be a return from Michael Emanalo with a very good offer but I understand that Chelsea have already informed Napoli that they will pay his €130M release clause in full in the summer - but they have not had a positive response from the player - perhaps because of the lack of Champions League football. Chelsea are already looking at options but could make a take-it-or-leave-it offer below his release clause with discussions over two other players going on between the clubs.
Benjamin Sesko (S/F) RBL could be offered a quick profit. His agent has not stopped offering the player around since his move to RBL. Described by a well known ex-Premier League player and high-end scout as "raw but improving". Was on the list for Spurs as a potential Kane replacement and Newcastle enquired. Chelsea spoke with his agent but have preferred options. Milan offer an option as a potential Giroud replacement. A wildcard may be either Manchester United or Arsenal. Milan will be favourites as they want Sesko and Zirkee.Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting (F) Manchester United asked for a loan of the player from Bayern Munich in January. I have no idea why.
Viktor Gyokeres (S) After only joining in the summer Sporting have no interest in selling but fear a club could simply pay his €100M buy out clause in full and try to persuade him to move. Sporting fear Chelasea may do that and have avoided the subject during discussions over another player and a separate issue. He has attracted scouts representing Manchester United and Arsenal with Arsenal seeing him as an option to Toney. Sporting are looking to a new contract and an increase in his buy-out clause.
Brian Brobbey (S) Everton interest remains but so does their financial plight. Eric ten Hag has a remaining interest but I doubt that position is supported by the club. Ajax will not want to sell.
Thalys (S) Discussed with Chelsea during negotiations over another player. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Manchester United have all sent scouts with Manchester United and Benfica both declaring an interest with Palmeriras.}
1.) 26 Mar 2024 12:27:57
Ed, a few questions if you don't mind, do you think there is any chance that Greenwood will return to MU? and is there any interest in Rashford?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Anthony Martial (W/F) Has to go but there little clear interest. Juventus had an interest but he would not be first choice now. Out of contract in the Summer with Fenerbahce keen to take a chance, else it will be the Middle East or a new contract.
Mason Greenwood (F) Time to move on - offered to Marseille and Atalanta. Turkey or the Middle East might provide permanent options. Atletico Madrid or Real Sociedad may offer an option but the fee will be too high for Getafe to buy but they will try to find a creative solution or another loan. He is on the list of Michael Emenalo, but that may not suit the player,
Marcus Rashford (LW/F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs, including Juventus and Arsenal about him on behalf of Manchester United,but I am not aware of any serious interest. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.}
2.) 26 Mar 2024 12:51:16
Ed, if you don’t mind do you think we will be able to sell greenwood? Seen a few reports saying clubs are being put off the fee we are demanding.
Obviously it sounded like Ratcliffe was leaving the door slightly open for him to return- but likely to try and protect some value if possible imo.
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are being unrealistic in what they have quoted Getafe for Greenwood. They will need to reduce their demands considerably.}
3.) 26 Mar 2024 13:11:24
Sorry Ed,
Just seen the updated response on Mg.
4.) 26 Mar 2024 13:16:04
Brilliant summary Ed002 thank you for your time.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
5.) 26 Mar 2024 13:39:15
I don't think Hojlund can be considered a clear first choice, nor that anyone who comes in will be merely playing second-fiddle to him. They'd probably end up playing pretty much the same across a season I'd expect, where both will go in and out of form and be injured etc.
6.) 26 Mar 2024 14:18:26
Thanks Ed.
7.) 26 Mar 2024 14:28:58
I know Rashford is not flavour of the month but would be concerned if we sold him leaving only Hojlund and Garnacho as the only players who have shown themselves as having the capability of playing premier league football and that's only been for half a season really lol.
The idea that just because we have new owners, our recruitment of replacements for the current squad is suddenly going to be successful is a huge leap of faith.
8.) 26 Mar 2024 15:15:26
Huge thanks Ed as always.
15 Mar 2024 15:09:54
Good afternoon Ed,
What positions are the club prioritising for recruitment this Summer?
Thanks as always.
{Ed002's Note - RW, CB, DM, G, RB, CM.}
1.) 15 Mar 2024 15:48:09
Thanks Ed. Surprised to see that we may not be going after a striker. I would was expecting a deal with Dortmund with Sancho swapped for Haller and some cash as a possibility.
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United have no interest in Haller. Sanch, cash and a swap for Malen maybe. But I was aked "priorities" - not a full list.}
2.) 16 Mar 2024 06:27:13
Pretty much a whole team required.
3.) 15 Mar 2024 16:01:52
Ed002
Do you have any idea who is on the list for gk and rb positions.
Ta.
{Ed002's Note - Mike Maignan (G) Of interest to Chelsea, but not first choice, and Milan won't look to sell but the player has not yet signed a new contract. Manchester United may be interested if Onana were to move on. Bayern have an interest in taking him to replace Manuel Neuer.
Diogo Costa (G) Manchester United need to make a decision over their goalkeepers moving forward and Costa is a player they have been looking at for some time, but so have Spurs, Chelsea and Roma. Porto will resist a sale unless and offer of €80M plus arrives.
Patrick Schulte (G) Columbus Crew goalkeeper Schulte has attracted scouts from BRL, Arsenal and Manchester United. A Work Permit may prove an issue in moving to England.
Denzel Dumfries (RB) Bayern Munich interest has gone. Inter offered him to Chelsea as a CA replacement - and that may yet be an option but Chelsea opted for another. Arsenal could be interested as they have been playing Ben White out of his natural CB position. Spurs and Manchester United offer options and he may well be first choice for Manchester United .
Devyne Rensch (RB/LB/CB) No interest in joining Manchester United as cover but attracted to them if first choice. Interest in the very versatile Devyne Rensch will leave with ten Hag Inter might make a declaration of interested after having him scouted as a possible Darmian replacement. Arsenal scouted him as a Cedric Soares replacement but whilst using Ben White at RB he would again only be cover. Bayer Leverkusen, potentially as a Frimpong replacement. Liverpool, Spursand Borussia Dortmund have sent scouts - and probably others as well.
Jeremie Frimpong (RB/RWB/RM/LB) Bayer Leverkusen would not be open to offers unless someone is paying well over the odds. Being versatile has made him attractive to Chelsea. 10 years at Manchester City might be against a move to Manchester United, but they have looked.
Odilon Kossounou (CB/RB) With Tapsoba, Tah and Hincapie all attracting attention Bayer Leverkusen will not want to lose Kossounou as well. Versatility to play at both CB and RB as attracted scouts from both Manchester sides and Real Sociedad who may be forced to replace Robin Le Normand.
4.) 15 Mar 2024 17:36:45
I don't disagree ed but that's a lot of priorities going to be a busy summer!
5.) 15 Mar 2024 22:58:43
Thanks Ed. Makes sense. ETH or the new manager may want 8 new first teamers given the way the season has gone.
6.) 16 Mar 2024 09:18:34
Goalkeeper? That's a surprise. ED002, do you know who are Utds targets and will Onana be available to offers from other clubs?
{Ed002's Note - See previous post please.}
7.) 16 Mar 2024 11:28:26
Ed002, is the possibility of Andre Onana leaving something that is coming from the club or the player?
I think after a shaky start he has started to really settle down and has probably been one of our best players since he returned from the AFCON. With a better defence in front of him I think he could be a really good player for us.
{Ed002's Note - Andre Onana (G) Not worked out and will be offered to Michael Emanalo as Manchester United look to upgrade - could stay as second choice as Bayindir wants out and Heaton will be out of contract.}
8.) 16 Mar 2024 13:11:34
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9.) 16 Mar 2024 14:53:23
Ed, not sure if you've answered this before but I've not been on the site much recently and can't see anything recent in the search.
Do we still have Antonio Silva as first choice for CB or has that moved on to the likes of Bremer and Branthwaite?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - He remains of interest but there is now serious interest from elsewhere.}
10.) 16 Mar 2024 17:43:11
Brilliant info as always Ed002 - thank you for the names and positions requiring attention.
Given Luke Shaw’s injury history and Malacia’s long-term injury (and Amass presumably too young) surprised that United not prioritising left back? Maybe bringing Alvaro Fernandez back?
Thanks for any further insights!
{Ed002's Note - A couple of the players mentioned can play at LB.}
11.) 17 Mar 2024 03:05:58
Ed002
RW, is this to move Rashford on, bring GARNACHO back to the left and call it time on the Anthony project? Or is it purely for cover basis?
As always thanks for all the info your provide.
{Ed002's Note - It will be to replace Antony.}
12.) 17 Mar 2024 15:55:32
Wonder if there’s any interest in Antony, either sale or loan. (Loan to Brazil been twittered)
Given his huge amortised cost, can’t imagine United will get anything other than a huge loss on the books.
13.) 18 Mar 2024 07:56:49
We seem quick to move theee players on. Onana is beginning to find his feet after shaky start it feels.
Antony - there is clearly a player in there, but for whatever reason, he’s just not adjusted to the PL.
27 Feb 2024 20:05:53
Hello Ed who are the club thinking could replace EtH in the Summer?
Thank you.
{Ed002's Note - Antonio Conte (C) Milan offer a solution but there is a lot of opposition. Wildcard may be Manchester United and Jim Ratcliffe knows Conte from his time at Chelsea. A serious option for Bayern Munich.
Gareth Southgate (C) May be a safe bet for Manchester United - but a widlcard at best.
Graham Potter (C) A serious option for Manchester United and West Ham United. Has ties to Jim Ratcliffe and was offered the job at Nice.
Hansi Flick (C) A move to England this summer seems very unlikely although Manchester United could turn to him but, again, well down the list. Chelsea and Real Madrid may discuss him based on need. Barcelona has him as an option – and close to the top of the list. Will have strong support from the Barcelona Board. Do not completely rule out a return to Bayern Munich.
Luis Enrique (C) A wildcard for Manchester United. Not the answer
Roberto de Zerbi (C) Brighton would fight to keep him but another who will certainly be discussed by Barcelona, Liverpool and Manchester United with Jim Ratcliff having an interest in him. A significant issue exists in the cost of Brighton releasing him. Deco has de Zerbi as his preferred option which he has shared with Yuste and Laporte but it will not be Deco's decision.
Ruben Amorin (C) Manchester United may offer an option - a wildcard may be Liverpool, but not first choice. If needs force the situation and given the likely link between the club and Sporting, Chelsea may offer another wildcard option.
Thomas Tuchel (C) On the list of options for Barcelona. Manchester United may provide an option as he knows Jim Ratcliffe well.
Xabi Alonso (C) A popular choice for clubs and having a great season at Bayer Leverkusen, but very inexperienced, although there will be interest in him from Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea and Manchester United. Has made no secret of a desire to follow Ancelotti at Real Madrid - but that won't be until 2026 so they can be discounted at this time although he has the support of Carlo Ancelotti. Klopp has endorsed both Alonso and Nagelsmann for the Liverpool job. Bayern Munich offer a serious option. If he were to win the league this season it would likely make it very difficult for him to leave Leverkusen and there would be significant pressure to stay. There are no clauses in his contract allowing him to leave to join any other club.
Zinedine Zidane (C) I understand an advisor has told Liverpool not to discount Zindane after discussions over another job for him are delayed pending a change of club ownership. However, I think Liverpool a very unlikely option. He would perhaps like to await the Juventus or perhaps the Manchester United job. Wildcard would be Bayern Munich.}
1.) 28 Feb 2024 12:14:01
Great list ed, for me Potter and Amorim may be the best fit for United.
Others will like de zerbi but there's something about him I'm just not sure of.
I would not be keen on Conte, Tuchel, Zidane and especially not Southgate.
2.) 28 Feb 2024 12:49:58
Brilliant info as always Ed002 - thank you very much!
3.) 28 Feb 2024 12:55:21
Excusing any expertise whatsoever in what United need and being, I’d prefer one of Potter, Amorim, Alonso or de Zerbi.
Definitely not Conte, Tuchel, Zidane or Southgate.
Surprised Nagelsman or McKenna not on the list.
4.) 28 Feb 2024 13:15:31
Thanks ed, any interest in Nagelsmann?
{Ed002's Note - From elsewhere.}
5.) 28 Feb 2024 13:32:19
Rio Ferdinand reckons Arteta will take the job if offered. ???.
6.) 28 Feb 2024 13:38:19
I thought Tuchel did a good job at Chelsea and PSG and comes across well in his media appearances so would support him replacing ETH.
7.) 28 Feb 2024 13:38:18
I think Ratcliffe said the style of football will come from the football director (and others in leadership) and the coach will implement that. It's not clear that EtH will be replaced but I'd imagine by the summer we'll have a clearer picture of the aims and that list will whittle down. I'd be surprised if Conte and Tuchel were considered. Neither appear to be suited to a rebuild.
8.) 28 Feb 2024 15:02:46
Ed002, do you think that there is still a chance that they will keep ETH for next season and give him time to work under them?
{Ed002's Note - My opinion is unchanged really. I expect he will be one of the coaches changed after July 1.}
9.) 28 Feb 2024 16:21:47
Ed002. Thanks.
Can I ask the significance of the date July 1st or why do you say after that date?
{Ed002's Note - It takes it in to a new year.}
10.) 28 Feb 2024 16:57:58
Cheers Ed - thanks for the update on potential managers!
Out of the list above:
-Who do you think would be the top 2 or 3 options for MUFC and working with Ashworth?
-Who is looking like the most likely appointment (perhaps there is still too long to go to have frontrunner at the minute) .
No worries if you don't want to get into it further.
Thanks and appreciate you and the other Eds continued contributions!
{Ed002's Note - I suspect Potter might be the most likely.}
11.) 28 Feb 2024 19:16:33
——-youn need to stop posting and sharing your ignorance about things you know nothing about. It is embarrassing and stupid———
12.) 28 Feb 2024 20:26:43
Thanks for all your input Ed002: Potter wouldn’t surprise me either, given his relationship with Ashworth (and that he’s available)
13.) 28 Feb 2024 23:02:13
Yeah I think potter too
But tbh, don't see why ETH doesn't at least get a crack at it with a proper structure.
14.) 29 Feb 2024 06:43:52
I suspect a lot of people will turn their nose up at Potter.
Mostly based on his short time at Chelsea. The irony is that both Potter and EtH have been in charge of horrifically ran clubs which meant they were effectively working with one hand tied behind their back.
I don't think for one second what either achieved with both clubs is indicative of their true ability and what they are capable of.
I'll be honest I'll have a wry smile on my face if Potter does replace EtH when thinking about all those fans who are pushing for the Dutchman to get sacked.
I think their heads might explode ?.
15.) 29 Feb 2024 08:54:17
Surprised not to see Poch’s name on there for when he is inevitably binned by Chelsea in the summer….
As for ten Hag, I suspect a good job back at Ajax or in Germany would await him.
16.) 28 Feb 2024 22:23:44
Who’d be your pick if you were In charge Ed?
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps Ruben Amorim.}
17.) 29 Feb 2024 09:45:33
It’s an interesting comparison you made Shappy.
I remember clearly that a lot of people on here were clambering for Potter while he was at Brighton.
Back then he was at a very well run club on the up. Then at Chelsea he struggled - understandably - in and amongst their circus.
ETH is in the exact same position, only I’d argue that ETH has had a lot more to deal with at Manchester United than Potter at Chelsea, at least it seems that way from the outside.
You could argue that both managers took too big of a jump. Seeing how they got on at a Villa/ Spurs/ Dortmund/ Milan level of club may have been sensible and a more natural stepping stone in their career.
18.) 29 Feb 2024 11:18:39
Ten Hag will make a fine Alonso replacement in Germany.
19.) 29 Feb 2024 13:48:59
I was not in favour of Potter at the time and the fact he has not worked since does not fill me with confidence.
My reservations are irrelevant if that's who they choose them they will have their reasons and I think he would have us better off than we are now or I hope so anyway.
De zerbi would by my choice off that list, I think he would be a good fit from the little I know about him.
Stiff competition and a hefty fee to aquire his services but if they believe he is the right man then he is worth pursuing.
20.) 29 Feb 2024 19:38:40
There doesn't seem much love-in for Zidane who seems to be on most of these short-lists. Supposedly (not that I know) his English isn't the best but I can barely understand di Zerbi or Emery and they're doing ok. In fact I thought it contributed to his Arsenal demise. Zidane would have a field day with our midfield.
{Ed002's Note - Zidane speaks reasonable, but not perfect, English. Like Harry Redknapp.}
21.) 29 Feb 2024 21:52:47
Interesting Amorim sounds like he would be a positive and an interesting choice from what I read about him.
The key for me is that whoever is appointed is that we get away from demanding 5 years minimum stay to allow the manager to take us in a direction none of us knows will be successful. Appoint a First team coach, give him a direction from above on how the team is to play and if we selected right it should work better. If it doesn't, move on after a period that the DOF or above deems is reasonable, be that 1, 2 years or longer.
22.) 01 Mar 2024 09:11:48
Ed2 I hope you don’t mind me asking, what are your thoughts on Potter as a manager? I know it didn’t work out at Chelsea, but from the outside it looked like there was so much going on it would be one of the hardest jobs in football.
Do you think he could do well for us provided we have the correct structure and environment?
{Ed002's Note - Potter will certainly be a consideration. The circumstances at Chelsea were difficult. The issue is that the infrastructure he had at Brighton was excellent and that has now gone.}
23.) 01 Mar 2024 17:37:02
Potter……. give me strength. We’ve got a bloody good manger who we should stick with, cracked the whip with the cry babies. Eric gets my vote.
24.) 01 Mar 2024 23:33:18
I’d quite to see Erik backed under the correct structure above any of the options above. But clearly not my choice so let’s see what the summer brings.
25.) 02 Mar 2024 08:15:34
Many thanks for the update Ed.
You mentioned a while back that a significant number of players could leave the club this Summer. Is Marcus Rashford someone the club are looking to move on? From an FFP perspective, it would make sense.
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps, but is nothing to do with FFP.
Marcus Rashford (F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs about him but I am not aware of any interest. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.
26.) 02 Mar 2024 12:38:02
The new contract is certainly starting to look like a mistake. It feels like a ‘would suit all parties’ if he were to leave.
Thanks as ever Ed.
27.) 02 Mar 2024 20:13:28
Seriously do not understand why so many are backing Potter like he is an improvement. We've seen what he can do at a big club. Stay well away.
Give ETH one more year then put it to the jury.
28.) 03 Mar 2024 13:53:31
Yea Kurtis as other managers have proved at Chelsea they are a really big club.
29.) 05 Mar 2024 08:39:49
I know this thread is never ending, but have been thinking on the above some more. I just don’t see how anything other than an experienced coach can take this role right now in the summer.
Potter, no doubt a fine coach, feels too raw and slightly too defensive to suit our proposed style of play.
I can’t see beyond someone like Tuchel for the role right now, as patience and time is not something offer to a young coach finding their feet at Utd. Just look how much the tide has turned in the dressing room and out of it for ETH!
30.) 05 Mar 2024 09:16:16
Not familiar with Potter’s management style (can a Brighton fan be kind enough to add info here to enlighten us pls? ) but comes across on the media as a thoughtful coach but lacking the charisma of a Klopp, Ange or Guardiola - a quality I think is essential at a top club.
Though hard to think of younger coaches who have this quality - Nagelsman maybe? Amorim?
31.) 05 Mar 2024 11:38:10
I’d be cautious of taking anybody directly from Brighton, that includes Potter and de Zerbi. The club is so well run and conditions are perfect for a coach to be successful, on the scale of what success looks like for Brighton.
Keep in mind, as good a job as De Zerbi has done, has won 5 out of his last 20 league matches. That’d see him getting sacked at Utd, Chelsea etc.
The club needs someone who has won trophies and knows how to get this done.
28 Nov 2023 12:45:15
Hi Ed,
Have the club approached Ancelotti?
{Ed002's Note - As coach? I would very much doubt it - he has an offer on the table from elsewhere but I suspect he will stay on at Real Madrid for prhaps a year or two more.}
1.) 29 Nov 2023 09:27:28
Will be interesting to see how the new hierachy (including some of the Glazers) view the manager position going forward past this year. Do they want a full clean house and reset with a new manager, do they view EtH position as not being fully supported and given the right structure round him so give him another couple of years.
Personally think the latter should be the case but he must be encouraged to find the identity and be provided the players for that identity.
If they make the change it will be interesting who they look towards, an older head like Ancheloti or a young up and coming manager. Aside from the Liverpool connections Alonso looks good at Leverkusen but I expect him to be a future manager for his old Liverpool/ Real/ Bayern teams.
2.) 29 Nov 2023 10:59:29
Think they’ll aim towards a Nice-style model where DoF looks after main daily duties while manager more of a coach.
3.) 29 Nov 2023 16:56:20
Loads of rumours online that Ratcliffe wants the Don Carlo Ancelloti whether hed come to utd is another matter but wow what a coup if u get him class manager similar level to Fergie.
14 Nov 2023 13:11:43
Afternoon Ed hope all is well with you.
What is the situation with Osimhen? Are United looking to sign the player?
{Ed002's Note - Victor Osimhen (S) Napoli made it clear to Chelsea who enquired in 2021 that even €100M would not buy the player - but they do maintain an interest and he has been first choice and expect an offer to be made. Al Hilal may well offer Napoli the €200M they will look for, but that may not suit the player just yet. PSG and Real Madrid could look to him as an option but Madrid would want to offer players in exchange and have two preferred targets. There is a suggestion that Liverpool have negotiated directly with the player and his agent and not spoken to Napoli. Given Napoli registered a complaint against Liverpool over another player last year, it would seem unlikely, or particularly stupid. Napoli will seek a new contract in the first instance.}
1.) 14 Nov 2023 17:54:01
Osimhen is a good striker, bit not worth anywhere near the fee Napoli would demand for him. Inconsistent touch and a poor injury record create enough doubt to easily decide that anything over 80m is too much.
The club have spent big to bring in Hojlund so I don't see them spending another huge fee on another striker. Obviously we do need another striker, but I'd expect a move for either an older player. Or a move for a good striker whose not quite in the top tier of forwards. Ivan Toney on the face of it would be ideal, 27 years old and entering his prime, EPL proven and would fit the homegrown criteria, also capable of playing wide on occasion. The only downside is that he wouldn't be that much cheaper than Hojlund most likely as he'll be coming from another EPL club. Possibly move for someone like Santiago Gimenez from Feyenoord.
2.) 14 Nov 2023 23:26:04
Crazy that people think we can't have 2 top strikers to play 1 position fergie had 5 to play 2, hojlund needs someone to challenge him not a 30-40m player to come on as a sub now and than and not really put him under pressure.
I wouldn't touch Toney he's done good for Brentford but his attitude towards his betting was awful didn't think he'd done anything wrong and in my opinion he's lucky to play again.
Giminez I'm pretty sure ed has said on the Chelsea page will cost a ridiculous amount. If we want to get serious we need top players challenging each other in every position not one comfortable player and a clear "back up" like we have at the moment.
For me we need a top striker or another young striker to get them both trying to better each other or maybe form a partnership, playing Rashford and hojlund as a 2 through the middle could be and interesting option also. We need to look to the future and building a squad to compete, all round, there aren't lots of "top" strikers out there bagging loads of goals so we should be looking to younger players like hojlund for it.
Marcos Leonardo is one linked, we were looking at sesko but he's only just moved to Leipzig, we should definitely be looking at Ferguson but he seems to have injury issues atm, I don't know enough about Giminez but I have seen he would be very expensive, Jonathan David is also a name that always pops up.
3.) 15 Nov 2023 08:17:30
Brooks, it's not about not needing/ wanting another top striker, it's about making sensible choices when rebuilding the squad.
At best we might have 200m a season to rebuild the squad. Players like Osimhen or Ferguson will cost over half of the transfer budget, seriously restricting who else we could bring in.
If we are honest we need a CB, a RB, two midfielders, and a RW for the starting first 11.
We also need a second CB, a ST, another wide player and another midfielder or two for the squad to allow rotation without a drop in quality.
A striker is in the second category, not someone needed to start, but someone needed to challenge the starter. It would be madness to spend the bulk of our budget on a player needed for squad depth thus restricting us signing one of the five players we need to actually improve our starting 11.
4.) 15 Nov 2023 08:48:18
agree with your thoughts shappy on what we need with the exception of 2 cb tbh, but i think that is what we need pdq. Factor in the next couple of windows and we could lose, maguire, lindlehof evans, varane,
midfield- eriksen, casemiro possibly even fernandes, donny
up front, martial, sancho, pellestri, antony.
Really think they could be realistic departures and soon due to form, fitting the play and age which leaves even more gaps to fill both first team and squad players.
5.) 15 Nov 2023 06:43:28
Dbrooks
David's first touch is also poor and I would think he is way down the list for us. I think the guy from forrest, Awoniyi is a good striker and maybe not as sexy as some of the guys playing in other European leagues but PL proven and you know what you are getting.
Ed002
Is there any interest in him from United or any other teams.
{Ed002's Note - ten Hag tried to sign him for Ajax butif the price can be resolved he will move to Milan.}
6.) 15 Nov 2023 12:13:53
We have to be sensible but the players your linking are stilly crazy expensive. Brentford have repeatedly said they want near 100m for Toney and he is not near worth that amount.
Marcos Leonardo is supposedly around 25-30m in Jan young and lots of potential could be a good option.
I'm not saying I have the answers but never ever should you sign "back ups" when building a team if your building your saying what you have needs improving so why would you buy someone to keep them first choice?
I agree with what we need not sure on 2 wide players we need 1 Rw with amad and pellistri. Think we definitely need 2 CBS maybe 3 Maguire and varane have to be gone for next year, Maguire's been good but playing him changes the style we play same with mctominay, varane cannot stay fit You probably keep lindelof for a year as a 4th choice so you don't have to spend silly.
7.) 15 Nov 2023 15:38:41
Thanks Ed. So no interest from United?
8.) 15 Nov 2023 16:24:15
Funky, If Martinez fully recovers and gets back to last season's form then I think we only need one starting CB to play along side him. While a second would be needed for squad depth.
If we are looking at our "best" starting 11 if everyone is fit then it'll be something like:
Onana, Dalot, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Eriksen, Antony, Bruno, Rashford, Hojlund.
For me the ones that need replacing are Varane, Casemiro and Eriksen due to their age and the fact they are declining. With Dalot and Antony needing replacing due to them not being good enough to be first choice (maybe decent as squad options) .
Which is why for me it's RB, CB, CM, CM, and RW. Maybe players like Mainoo or Amad make a case for a spot at CB or RW if they can step up.
For me the issues at RB and RW while troublesome are not as impactful as the issues in the heart of the team at CM and CB. It is our soft centre and lack of ability to dominate the middle of the pitch that makes it impossible for us to play well with any sort of consistency.
This is compounded by the fact that the back up options are a massive drop off in quality. Maguire, Lindelof, Evans, McTominay, Donny, and Amrabat are just not good enough.
Maybe Lindelof could stick around as a decent 4th choice CB, but ideally would be replaced. Yet I can't see us signing 3 CB's in one or two summers.
In midfield we have a few youngsters who could step up in Mainoo, Hannibal and Gore. Yet they are the only one's I'd keep. Mason Mount for me is the longer term Bruno replacement and occasional cover deeper in midfield depending on how we set up. However, we need a minimum of two probably three midfielders if we are going to control games and be more tactically flexible.
For me the order of priority would be CDM, CB, CM, RW, RB. Then after those 5 positions are bought I'd look at ST, CB and another CM (although I'd hope Mainoo has lessened the need by this point) .
How quickly we can get these players in will dictate how quickly we start seeing a more consistent style and higher level of performance.
Brooks, I tend to agree that Toney would be too much. I'm not sure what sort of price Gimenez would command. I'd have thought playing in the Netherlands for Feyenoord would mean he'd be at the cheaper end. However, if the Ed's say differently then I'll bow to their superior knowledge.
Either way the point remains the same, we need to find a cheaper back up player, but one with enough quality to be able to make a difference and for us to not see a massive drop off when they play. That is much harder than it seems.
9.) 16 Nov 2023 00:15:19
I agree we need to look to build for me we need to look at having a 1st choice and a young player to go with that position my target age range would be 18-24 no older, younger would be longer term unless it's a crazy special player.
GK onana and bayindir with a youth player or someone like Heaton that's pretty much sorted
RB I agree dalot probably needs to be let go and improved on AWB can be very useful to see games out or for a specific man marking job
CB needs a clear out only one to keep is Martinez maybe lindelof gets a year for the budget
LB for now it's ok I've always had concerns over Shaw his tracking back isn't great and he doesn't stop crosses at all malacia is a back up you may let him go to keep Fernandez around
DM casemiro was too much and too expensive needs to go, amrabat just doesn't look good enough
CM mount needs time, McT needs to go, eriksen and casemiro were bad signings for the money/ wage/ age they provide no energy to the team, as you say mainoo Hannibal and gore offer depth options we need 1st choice I think 2 with mount and those 3 would be enough
RW Antony probably needs to be moved on and same for Sancho leaves you with pellistri/ amad you probably want a first choice or you sell pellistri use amad to back up Bruno play mount here and buy a youngster bargdhi?
AM Bruno all day every day, amad/ mount can offer back up if their other positions are correctly filled
LW Rashford and Garnacho this spot is sorted for a while
St hojlund and the new Phil Jones Anthony martial needs someone to actually challenge hojlund for his spot push him to be better.
So sell:
Dalot
Maguire
Varane
Lindelof (maybe keep 1 more year)
Malacia (maybe 1 more year)
Casemiro
Eriksen
Mctominay
Antony
Sancho
Pellistri (? )
Martial
Buy
RB
2x CBs
2xCm (maybe 3 depending on mount and rw)
1x rw (young or first team depending on mount)
ST just a top quality challenger for hojlund
With the youth in midfield you maybe get 1 slightly older midfielder but is say aged between 22-26, striker could go either way but again wouldn't go older than 26.
We have to build which means the players have to be around for a couple of years, buying younger should also help those players keep their value of they don't work out.
10.) 16 Nov 2023 10:53:08
Brooks, I think we are pretty much on the same page. The only slight difference is that I'd be considering a third midfielder depending on how the youngsters do rather Mount. I think we need 4 really good options for the deeper midfield positions (No.6 and No.8).
At the moment the only one I'm fairly convinced has a future there in our squad if Mainoo. Gore will need more time and probably a loan, and while Hannibal has the talent it's yet to be seen if he has the temperament. He needs to learn to control his emotions and channel his frustration. Otherwise the manager will have to keep subbing him off to avoid going down to 10 men. You can't be successful at the top of the game when you are a liability.
I don't think either Casemiro or Eriksen were bad signings. Both played a big role in our successes last season. We overpaid for Casemiro, but that seems pretty standard for our club. Eriksen was probably the best free agent available when we signed him. I also think both add qualities to the dressing room that this squad lacked. The only downside to both of them is that they were 5 years older than would have been ideal. They were only ever short term options. The short-term solution to not being able to sign FdJ.
I actually wouldn't be against Casemiro staying next season as an experienced squad option alongside a youthful Mainoo to act as the back up to two new signings. With a view to maybe one of Gore or Hannibal taking his place the following year or if they aren't going to be good enough sign someone else then. However, that very much depends on whether Casemiro wants to stick around that long playing more of a bit part role. If a big offer comes in from Saudi Arabia then I can see him wanting to head there for a big final pay day. I actually think the decline in Casemiro is being slightly over egged. I think the issues that are exposing him more this season are more tactical in nature as opposed to him not being fit enough or losing some pace. The defence has dropped 10 yards deeper due to having to play players like Maguire, Lindelof and Evans who all lack pace and could be exposed by a higher line. This coupled with the forward players being asked to press high has meant the midfield has to cover a much larger area of the pitch. When you ask a two man midfield to cover that much space they will struggle, especially when they are often outnumbered. That's made it look like Casemiro has declined as it looks like he's chasing shadows, as he's effectively playing Rondos every game in midfield. Unfortunately due to the imbalance of the squad it's a tactical issue without any real solutions until players return from injury. But with the right players in the squad I think Casemiro would still be a very good player for us.
I tend to agree with the age profile your suggesting. I'd probably say we should be looking at players between 21-25, this rebuild will take 2-3 season's so you want your team to be hitting their peaks around that time. There is little to be gained from adding older players to this squad. They would only eat away at the budget and become another player who needs replacing before the team is ready to challenge. While signing players under 21 means they come with very little experience and while they might be an asset in 3 years time, they can't be relied on to perform right now. We still need players to be able to perform over the next couple of seasons, to be able to play most games in order to grow as part of the team. So I'd steer clear of players with less than 2 full seasons of top level football under their belt, as a minimum.
I'm on the fence between Dalot and AWB. One needs to go and create space for a genuine first choice option. With the other staying as back up. On one hand I can see the advantage of having a more defensive option like AWB as back up. On the other hand do you really want you back up player to be at the opposite extreme to your first choice option. That means having to make fundemental changes to how your team plays when you have to play AWB. Is being a good defensive option a little to niche?
Dalot on the other hand while not specialising in any particular area is much more technically sound and tactically flexible. He can play as a third CB, a fullback, a wingback and as an inverted fullback, as well as being able to cover both right and left hand sides.
Purely as a back up/ squad player Dalot is the much better option. He'd be able to fill in any role to a decent standard, which is what you need from your squad players. For example he'd enable us to have just one fullback on the bench as he can cover both sides. Meaning the manager could put another option on the bench to allow for greater flexibility and more tactical options to influence the game. Typically your bench is made up of only two types of players, the ones needed to act as cover in case of injuries of sending offs, and the ones who you want to be able to put on to change/ influence the game. Back up keeper and defenders tend to be in the first category, forwards or midfielders with a different profile to their on pitch counterparts tend to be in the second category.
If it were me I'd be far more inclined to keep Dalot over AWB even though currently I think AWB is performing better than Dalot. I just think for the role as a backup/ squad player Dalot offers more. Also typically a defence doesn't change how they play. Defending is far more dependent on consistency and reliability. I'm not sure the niche tactical option of a player like AWB will really be of any huge benefit to us.
You have a question mark over Pellistri, I haven't. Sell him. Talented enough young player but a little too lightweight and one dimensional to be anything more than a sub at the top end of the EPL. He also needs to be playing 90 minutes every week to develop any further, he won't get that at United.
Sell him and let him develop. I also think Hannibal might end up needing to leave to develop. Although it's his temperament that holds him back. Both are talented players, but maybe lacking a little something needed to play at the highest level, especially at their ages. And if they don't play regularly then they won't develop. Both might need to leave to have any chance of reaching their potential.
Very few players under the age of 21 have the talent, physical and mental resilience to play regularly for a top side. It's easy to think of the exceptions, but literally every other player probably didn't have what it took to play at those clubs at that age.
Some players at 18 have the talent and mentality, but haven't grown into their man's body yet. Others might have the physique and the mentality but not the level of talent, while the ones that always leave us most disappointed are the ones who have the talent and physique but lack the mentality. That's are the ones who tend to get a shot, they get chances and look like they might become future stars only for it to fizzle out due to them not being mentally ready. Either they get crushed by the expectations or they get an inflated ego and stop doing the work that is needed.
That's why I wouldn't sign a young player without at least two full seasons of experience under their belt. That normally means they have proven they have all three.
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30 Mar 2024 10:40:29
Happy Easter, Eds and all.
Mark Ogden has reported that United are interested in bringing Gary O'Neil into the coaching setup at United.
Any truth in this?
1.) 30 Mar 2024 11:53:11
Scholesy, look on the wolves page, ed002 has answered your question there.
2.) 30 Mar 2024 12:05:47
O'Neill has come out and said himself there is no truth in the rumours.
Sly Sports have also recently reported that ETH is now in Ineos summer plans.
Topic has been covered to death but I'm sure Ed002 would update us if things changed. He's the only source I trust.
10 Aug 2023 10:51:09
Ed is there any chance we will match Bayerns bid for Kane? Even if we used players in part exchange?
{Ed002's Note - Done to death - read the posts.}
1.) 10 Aug 2023 11:06:42
Sadly not. Despite our desperate need for a proven goal scorer, we seem destined to start the season with Martial and Hoijlund as our only recognized strikers.
2.) 10 Aug 2023 11:20:05
Kane is not happening and that ship sailed a long time ago.
If martial stays healthy he has a lot of goals in him and his link up play with rash is excellent.
Maybe a good thing for Hoilund too as the British press will be licking their lips and have a filed day with him if he struggles settling in. there are so many players in our team capable of scoring so I am less concerned than most here.
I can see Richard Keys who hates United and ETH dreaming about this.
BBC has a prediction out by all these pundits, we are picked to finish 4th by a massive majority. Most of these guys has us finishing 5th or 6th last year so that's a good omen:)
2nd at worst imo and we should run a prediction once the window closes.
3.) 10 Aug 2023 11:29:33
I get everyone wanting to go for Kane, but for all of his impressive finishing abilities, for the money involved, his age and suitability to play the way that ETH wants I just don’t feel he is the way to go.
He is available as he wants out and Spurs can’t lose him for nothing next year, so If ETH had wanted him badly enough then I feel we would have gone for him. Levy is difficult but with Kane really wanting out, if ETH had really pushed then I believe something could have been done.
However he has decided to go a different way, one which suits the style of play that he wants, along with the signings of Onana and Mount, which I believe in time will reap the rewards we want.
Personally I would rather not go the short term fix route and miss out on a player who could be very very good for many years, we definitely can’t afford both. We have been garbage for years anyway so a little more patience to get everything in order isn’t the end of the world. We will improve on last year no doubt about that and then it depends on how well City and Arsenal do this year. We may be challenging anyway or it may take another year, either way it feels much better now than it has in well over a decade.
4.) 10 Aug 2023 11:33:07
Rashford?
I still think we will get another forward player in of Greenwood is not going to be played.
5.) 10 Aug 2023 12:01:06
When did Martial last have a good game? I can't remember. Ever since Samchez signed he has been pants, I don't know whether it is injuries or something else but his time had run out.
6.) 10 Aug 2023 12:42:05
Kane is off to Bayern, deal now agreed with Spurs. Kane to agree personal terms which I doubt will be an issue.
7.) 10 Aug 2023 13:00:29
I’m with you here AJH. I do wonder what I’m missing with Martial, when I hear fans say he can be a good player for us.
His personality is who he is, and that’s the reason we will never be a good player for us, nor likely for anyone else.
He’s had chance after chance, is mentally weak at best, and is way too lazy to play for ETH.
8.) 10 Aug 2023 13:54:25
To be fair, Martial still had my support until about half way through last season, but enough is enough. He’s far too fragile both mentally and physically to play for a top club and is stealing a living at United. It’s our own fault, but he is not the answer to our goal scoring problem and starting the season with just him and Hoijlund as our only out and out strikers scares the crap out of me - especially with both being out injured for the foreseeable future.
9.) 10 Aug 2023 14:58:39
Brendan, Kane was ETHS first choice was he not? So I think that tells us what we need to know about whether ETH saw him fitting in.
10.) 10 Aug 2023 15:37:44
Did eth say that. don't recall him ever saying this.
Media reports many things on behalf of people with a lot of it completely off the mark.
The Korean guy from napoli was suppose to be our first signing in early July once his so called release clause became effective. Everyone needs to move on kane is gone to Bayern.
Starting to sound like Liverpool supporters who think everyone from mbappe to Bellingham should be playing for them.
Good window so far with a possibility of being a great window. Looking forward to watching chelsea vs liverpool this weekend.
11.) 10 Aug 2023 16:55:59
I don't get it - Bayern quite publicly have been going back and forth with Spurs for almost a month, and finally when a price is agreed he most likely doesn't even want to go there? Reminds me a bit of the de Jong saga. Why not say so at the beginning lol?
12.) 10 Aug 2023 16:56:57
SSN reporting that Kane is unlikely to go to Bayern, which would seemingly suggest that this whole ordeal was about getting Spurs to agree a few so that somebody else (presumably an English club who Spurs wouldn’t have otherwise have been willing to negotiate with) could match it. If it’s not us, I can only assume that it’s Chelsea, as they’re the only big English club other than us who really needs a striker.
Either that, or Kane plans to break the scoring record this season and then claim a big signing on fee somewhere else next season. Not sure why he’d waste Bayern’s time though if that were the case, unless he was just curious to see how much he was worth.
13.) 10 Aug 2023 17:01:28
Angelred when did he say that? According to the media he seems to have had about 8 first choice striker targets. We have no idea if he actually wanted him, although maybe if he was available cheap but that was never going to happen. He just doesn’t fit the ETH playing style, so paying £100m was never going to happen in my opinion.
I am just going off my own feelings though and not media reports, which we can all take with a pinch of salt.
14.) 10 Aug 2023 23:07:41
I think the sensible thing for Kane to do is see out this season and then watch the massive offers come rolling in. If its about money the Saudis will trow massive amounts.
If Madrid are afzer Haaland that door opens. Chelsea may be in the market, and United if Hojound doesn't work out. Either way with no transfer fee involved he will make massive money and who knows who could be in the running. I imagine a lot of big Euro teams will be as well as a couple of EPL big boys.
15.) 11 Aug 2023 02:08:03
I hope kane sits in and sees out his deal. Levi has been controlling him all this time, be fun to sit back and watch kane stick it to him and take back control of his career.
Watch Levi try to make Kane out as the bad guy for seeing out the terms of his contract, just like PSG are doing to Mbappe.
16.) 11 Aug 2023 07:38:17
oakbark
Madrid want mbappe and kind of worst kept secret and he wants to go there as well. I still think Kane goes as it sounds odd and not Bayern like to have bid multiple times not having the player on board with the idea. Bayern and Madrid generally get the players they want and have the finances to do it.
17.) 11 Aug 2023 14:21:11
Its also been very well reported that Madrid want Haaland as well maybe in 24 when the reported clause kicks in.
I also didn't say he will or won't go to Bayern i said if i were him i would see my contract down and see what's offered from all these clubs and pick m.
08 Aug 2023 17:38:36
Ed do you have any info on Hojlund's back injury? Is it serious?
{Ed002's Note - No sorry.}
1.) 08 Aug 2023 18:58:03
Thanks anyway Ed.
2.) 08 Aug 2023 19:00:10
Not great, he's put his back out and he's only been carrying out attack for a few days?.
3.) 08 Aug 2023 19:12:53
Club saying it’s something that needs managed, some suggestions he won’t be able to play for a few weeks.
4.) 08 Aug 2023 19:23:14
We needed 2 strikers anyway but this news makes it even more important. Probably not as bad as some are making out but we need him available for most games so to have him and martial as our only options and both not fit isn’t good.
5.) 08 Aug 2023 20:03:58
Apparently it’s not too serious just requires some rest and eased in.
6.) 08 Aug 2023 21:45:53
Deadline day push for Kane?
If we sell all these players and Hojlund isn’t ready for the start of the season, who knows?!
Would genuinely make us title contenders.
7.) 08 Aug 2023 22:37:54
Greenwood. Day by day there’s more reports he’s coming back.
8.) 08 Aug 2023 22:55:06
It’s not particularly serious, just needs a period of rest and might not be able to play 2 games a week for a little bit, fortunately we don’t play 2 games a week regularly until the end of September.
9.) 08 Aug 2023 22:59:50
what injury is everyone referring to?
01 Aug 2023 21:13:50
Ed - the club isn't getting sold, is it?
{Ed002's Note - The owners are hoping to sell.}
1.) 01 Aug 2023 23:42:26
The price they are wanting is probably going to be too high so I can’t see them going anywhere. Apparently they think the club is only going to become more valuable over the next few years and they’re disappointed with the current offers. If that’s true then we are stuck with them unfortunately.
2.) 02 Aug 2023 07:06:12
Tim, if that is the case then it shows how deluded they are.
You don't sell an asset based on what ifs or what it might be worth years down the line. You sell it for broadly what it's worth at the time of selling it.
If you are buying a house which is worth 250k based on other similar houses in the same area you wouldn't agree to buy it for 600k because the current owner believes it will be worth 600k 10 years down the line.
While Manchester United aren't a ready to move into house. They are a fixer upper, the roof leaks (literally), it needs decorating top to bottom, maybe part of it needs knocking down and rebuilding, or at least a large extension to be built. It requires significant investment to realise its true value.
If the Glazers seriously expect someone to come in and pay well over the odds for an asset that requires significant investment due to their poor management and a lack of maintenance during their ownership then they really are as thick a pigs s**t.
3.) 02 Aug 2023 07:51:51
There’s been lots of rumours flying round and who knows if this article has any truth. Thing is that it wouldn’t be a huge shock if it is true.
4.) 02 Aug 2023 09:01:35
We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. The Glazers/ Raine group are saying nothing, Ratcliffe/ Sheikh Jassim can't say anything due to confidentiality agreements (some leaks maybe but take those with a pinch of salt) .
The sale unfortunately for us was never going to be a quick deal with both sides wanting to get the best price, needing to do their due dilligence etc. We have been told multiple times that the transfer window would not be massively effected by the sale due to FFP so as much as we want the big new signing for the owner not sure if that was ever realistic.
It will happen when it happens and it could be closer or further than we realise. I expect that one day we will just get the announcement out of the blue to say that it is either sold or the Glazers are going a different route and sale is off.
20 Jul 2023 12:28:03
Hi Ed hope all is well with you.
Do you think the club will be sold in 2023? I appreciate your point regarding the sale taking as long is it will take etc but how much longer are we looking at having the Glazers as owners of our club?
{Ed002's Note - Probably.}
1.) 21 Jul 2023 00:05:01
I appreciate your need for information re the sale but how can you possibly expect that question to be answered?
22 Apr 2024 20:34:42
Thanks Ed. I think I’m in the minority but given the options, I’m hoping for Potter.
22 Apr 2024 15:32:05
Ed, do you think Tuchel will end up being the United manager or do you think Potter is more likely at this stage?
{Ed002's Note - Southgate or Potter would be favourites still.}
14 Apr 2024 08:18:42
Nagelsmann makes little sense unless he is going to leave the German national side before the Euros get underway.
Ed has stated that Potter and Southgate lead the charge should EtH be relieved of his duties and personally, I can’t see Southgate either due to similar reasons to Nagelsmann.
Potter the most likely IMO. He’s been waiting for something….
07 Apr 2024 16:22:21
Or is this an indication that EtH could be given a further year?
26 Mar 2024 15:15:26
Huge thanks Ed as always.
08 Aug 2023 18:58:03
Thanks anyway Ed.
16 May 2023 22:52:53
Literally laughing in the faces of all the above sarcasm; karma can be a funny thing….