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18 Jun 2021 18:24:36
Reports that ole is going make a definitive decision on the number 1 spot and has opted for Henderson.

Not an easy call to make and leaves the club in a tough position with DDG.

An alexis type loan deal most likely for him I assume if he wants first team football next season.


1.) 18 Jun 2021 22:23:23
The sensible decision.

2.) 19 Jun 2021 07:32:32
The sensible decision in what way? DDG has been a loyal servant, Henderson has had one good season at Sheff Utd and has more market value. Just because it’s the decision you’d make doesn’t make it sensible Shappy. Think i speak for many on here when I say the sooner you realise that the better.

3.) 19 Jun 2021 07:37:47
What are the loan options, most clubs seem settled in the goalkeeping department, and then there is the matter of his £375k a week wages to cover.

4.) 19 Jun 2021 07:57:45
Thats why its going to have to be an alexis type deal where we pay a fair chunk of the players wages while they play for their loan club.

5.) 19 Jun 2021 09:21:28
Red Whiskey, DDG has continued to decline every year for the past 3 seasons. That is not a blip but a clear pattern of decline.

Currently Henderson and DDG although having different strengths and qualities are probably on par.

So if you have two keepers, on a similar level, but one is declining while the other is improving then surely backing the keeper who is on the up is the sensible thing to do.

DDG has been a loyal servant and he has been paid handsomely for it. He is the highest paid player in the league, yet he isn't even in the top ten best players in the league currently. He has also had a little dig at the club in a post wishing Romero the best. Saying that Romero deserves to be treated well by his next club. He might be 100% right in what he is saying. Yet to publicly back a player leaving the club over the club doesn't look great.

Personally given that it will be hard to sell DDG this summer then loaning him out seems like the best and most sensible decision.

That way both keepers understand their role and it removes the indecision that has impacted both of their performances this season.

Henderson gets a shot at proving himself without the spectre of DDG hanging over his head.

DDG gets a fresh club to play at which might give him the jolt needed to get him back to his best form.

While if Henderson flops then we still have DDG on the books to come back.

6.) 19 Jun 2021 09:30:51

What are you on about? It looks like you have a massive soft spot for DDG. Logically thinking, DDG does not deserve to be first choice gk anymore. He has been horrible for past three years and yet is the highest paid player in the league.

Form loss usually only last for weeks or months. DDG has lost his form for 3 years now which means he is in decline. As much he has done for the club, it is time to say good bye.

It is sad to see many people slating henderson just because he is here to replace their beloved DDG. Henderson is still learning and can only be better. He is better in everthing compared to DDG except shot stopping. To be fair, DDG has never been good at anything except shot stopping and there was no one better than him.

As Shappy said, sensible thing is to go for Henderson as first choice and sell DDG. If he was at low wage then i would understand but he is at incredibly stupid wage which is not healthy for the club.

7.) 19 Jun 2021 10:31:40
Henderson is a perfectly adequate goalkeeper, but is that what we want, adequate.

We all agree that DDG needs to be moved on, ideally he would like to go back to Madrid, but neither club there looks an option at the moment. Heard that he sounded out Barcelona as he is close friends with Aguero, but the money situation is too difficult to overcome.

The more you look at it the madder his contract looks, with three years to run and £60million still due to him. Those are big numbers for loan clubs to consider and even bigger for United for someone who might not be playing for you, dwarfs the cost of sacking Jose which cost us only £20million.

Personally I would prefer if we went for someone like Meslier, who is already ahead of Henderson in ability, yet three years younger.

8.) 19 Jun 2021 10:50:58
Grim, he only has two years left on his contact until June 2023. I fully agree that in hindsight the length and size of his contract seems like a bad decision.

I disagree that Henderson is merely "adequate". I think he is a very talented keeper. I'm also not the only one, with teams such as Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all having had him seriously scouted and interested in signing him (although with PSG signing Donnarumma I expect their interest has gone now) .

Top sides are interested because they see the talent in him. I'd say his current level is greater than that of DDG during his first couple of season's with us.

It would be madness of the club to let him go without giving him a season as first choice to see if he can prove himself at the highest level.

9.) 19 Jun 2021 11:40:05
For me there is no contest between them. If DDG can restore his confidence, which is the problem, then in terms of skill I haven't seen Henderson do anything in the numerous chances he was given last season to suggest he's anywhere near the same level. He's English and has come through our ranks and people like that. But he's not really done a thing as far as I'm concerned other than play well for a lesser side on loan where he was tested far more often.

10.) 19 Jun 2021 11:56:26
Hendo for me all day long. If we lose him we will be searching for a new number 1 in a year or 2 and will struggle to find a keeper as good as him because if he's playing every week he's going to get better.

11.) 19 Jun 2021 12:40:00
Option on the additional year Shappy, we usually extend those because we want to get a fee for a player. With the exception of the Dog Walker, have we ever let a player at DDG's level go without asking for money in return?

I agree Henderson is talented, but so is Lingard, at United he is a squad player, not a first team player.

Interesting that Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all looked at Dean. However PSG decided on Donnurumma, Dortmund went with Kobel, Spurs were actually looking at Maignan until he went to Milan, Chelsea considered Donnarumma, but now he has gone to PSG will stick with what they have and Arsenal want Onana.

12.) 19 Jun 2021 13:52:27
The problem is, is that DDG has made mistakes for the past 3 years and until this season wasn't dropped. Romero deserved to be our number 1.

In OGS first season DDG cost us a place in the CL by making some very silly errors, which were partly down to OGS wanting to play out from the back. The club then went on to offer him a huge new contract, which he didn't deserve due to how poor his form was. Even Mourinho said on Sky Sports that is was very surprised that he got a deal like that given how poor he had been.

OGS can't make a decision. He Brough Henderson back, left Romero in the lurch and the only GK who was probably happy was Grant.

I can't wait for the club to offer pogba a new monster deal and watch him play poorly again. He clearly doesn't want to be at the club. During the Euros his comments have made it obvious.

Utd are a poorly managed club, run by amateurs.

13.) 19 Jun 2021 14:08:12
There is no proof that Henderson will only get better and improve and there is no proof that a goalkeeper at 31 will keep declining.
The only real question is if we believe Henderson will become a top top keeper, i personally don't. So we have two options:
1) We believe in him becoming a top keeper and far better than the current ability of De Gea so we keep him.
2)We don't believe in him and believe that it is a risk so we sell him NOW because now his price is higher. After 1-2 average seasons his price will go down. Furthermore between two "average" keepers i would prefer the one with the expiration date (De Gea) . He has two year contract and we have enough time to think about his replacement if we won't renew his contract. He will also be 33 and we will have an easy desicion. With Henderson it will not be an easy desicion because of age and nationality, so if he is half decent stick with him so stick with an average keeper.
So the sensible choice is stick with De Gea and at the same time try to find his replacement after 1-2 seasons.

14.) 19 Jun 2021 14:14:59

You’ve just said OGS can’t make a decision then described the decision he made. I think what you mean is he made a decision you didn’t agree with which is different.

15.) 19 Jun 2021 14:37:30
Id sell them both and go for Oblak. You never know until you ask.

16.) 19 Jun 2021 15:17:47
Is this a new trend over here where players are judged without being given a proper chance to prove themselves? And yet we got Ole in charge.

I agree DeGea is the more experienced and better shot stopper of the two and if possible I would have him as No.1 with Henderson as backup rotating with him and gaining experience in the process.

However, if we have to make a choice then based on the mistakes made by both I would keep Henderson as he is much younger and a better all round keeper and has time on his side to improve upon his weakness. I would give him a season to see if he can step up and if not we can always get someone better.

The problem though is with DeGea's contract right now and we somehow need to handle that.

GrimisnotDead as far as Lingard is concerned he was given more than enough chances in the first team which he failed to take. And other teams haven't come in for Hendo probably because we are not yet ready to let him go.

17.) 19 Jun 2021 16:02:25
It's definetely the riskier of the options. Ole immediately alienated Lukaku upon his arrival in place of the local lad. After numerous options up front the situation will require major attention at the end of this season. Will history repeat itself?

I personally think it's the wrong decision but I hate the idea of rotating GKs. If he's chosen Henderson then so be it.

18.) 19 Jun 2021 21:08:56
LPU, wasn't Lingard only behind Lukaku in the scoring stats in 17/ 18 under Jose, hardly not taking his chance. He then had his dip in form which was due to his well know off field issues. Ole initially refused to let him go on loan, its was only because Jesse forced the issue that Ole buckled, and you have to agree he took his chance at WH.

Teams haven't come in for Hendo because clubs know we aren't ready to let him go? That is not how football works, if a club was truly interested in him they would have already sounded out his agent about the possibility of a move, the fact that the majority have scouted him and moved on says alot.

But that is the beauty of football, we all have opinions, for me Henderson would be perfect for an Everton or West Ham, but not a top four team, which is what we expect to be.

19.) 20 Jun 2021 04:47:01
GrimisnotDead, Lingard played well for a while but he was afforded a lot of chances to make the position his own which he failed to do so. So, effectively he has not taken his chance.

How do you know that other clubs haven't come in for him? And without even giving Henderson a proper chance why are you even judging him to not be good for us? Just give him a chance to prove himself before making a hasty judgement.

20.) 20 Jun 2021 07:53:18
Grim, I don't think Lingard and Henderson's situations are comparable.

Lingard has made 133 appearances for the club over a 7 year period, under three different managers.

Henderson has made 13 appearances, in one year, under one manager, with 8 of them coming in a run of consecutive games.

Teams have come in for Henderson, they have approached his agent and they have approached the club and have been met with a flat out no.

The fact they have moved on when a top club have refused to sell them a player, only says they are well run and not stupid.

21.) 20 Jun 2021 08:12:12
Herrera, while there might not be any definitive proof that a 24 year old goalkeeper will continue to improve. It's pretty well accepted that most players hit their peaks in their late 20's or early 30's. With keepers often hitting their peaks later and sustaining it for longer.

So while there is not proof that Henderson will improve, probably around 90% of keepers at his age will continue to improve.

Is there any definitive proof that DDG will continue to decline? No, but he has shown a steady and continuous decline over the past 3 seasons. That's more than a blip. Poor form lasts week's, maybe months, but not years.

For me the only way I see DDG rediscovering his form is if he moves and has a new challenge. Even then I doubt that will see him return to his absolute best.

For me he is a similar keeper to Casillas. Great shot stopper, average at everything else. Even at his peak DDG was weak in the air, his distribution was average, his command of his area was poor. But he made saves that no one had a right to make. His reactions were freakish.

The issue is as you age your reaction speed declines first. We saw it with Casillas and we are seeing it with DDG. His shot stopping is still way above average, but it's not anywhere near where it was when he was 26. And in my opinion it never will be again.

This has exposed DDG's lack of quality in all other goalkeeping departments. His inability to play out from the back has seen him lose his spot for the national team, first to Kepa now to Simon.

Both decent keepers but not world class.

The reality is that he is likely to continue to decline. Apparently Ole has set him with specific training to try and improve his distribution. Something I wonder why no other managers/ goalkeeping coaches have done. Over the past 8 years he should have been working to improve his weaknesses and make himself a better all round keeper, that would have mitigated his loss in reaction time as he aged and would have kept him near the top.

Currently there are maybe 4 or 5 keepers in the EPL better than him. With some young ones who over the next year or so might overtake him as well. Dean Henderson being one of them.

I expect if you went to all the top sides and offered them DDG or Henderson right now for the same price, say 30m. The majority would pick Henderson. That tells you all you need to know about who should be out No.1.

22.) 20 Jun 2021 08:38:42
I miss van der Sar : (.

23.) 20 Jun 2021 09:39:56
Trololo, I miss VDS, my personal favourite keeper during my lifetime.



04 Jan 2021 20:54:57
Rojo to boca juniors? Not sure if accurate but Would make sense for him to finish his playing back in his natice argentina.




27 Jul 2020 10:12:15
Does jack grealish helping villa stay up make it easier or harder for a deal to be done to sign him up?


{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference.}



29 Jun 2019 17:16:16
Rashford close to signing a new deal.

Great news.


1.) 29 Jun 2019 18:07:02
Yeh fantastic.

2.) 29 Jun 2019 18:58:18
Good news he’s committing to a new deal altho if reported figures are true i'm not sure why he would get 250k a week plus at his age where do you go from there. Another massive contract for a young player that needs to prove he's worth half that. I guess i'm just a old f****r and despise the over paid nature of these young lads who have done nothing within the game. Personally if have said score 30+ goals this season we can talk about a wage increase.

3.) 29 Jun 2019 19:12:09
Who knows if that reported figure is true and who cares how we personally feel about how much he earns. The key point is that its all relative.

If sanchez is on what he's reported to be on then rashford has every claim to earn as much as he can. he's done more for this club in the 10 games he played under lvg than sanchez has ever done for us.

Martial and shaw just got new contracts and i assume a pay rise, rashford deserves it more than them.

Most posters on here in the last third of the season becried the lack of players who put the required effort in and have the desire to improve themselves. Rashford has both those qualities as well as technical abilities that few in his age range can match.

4.) 29 Jun 2019 19:34:56
Shouldn’t be on three times what Wan-Bissaka has paid. He’s equally as unproven over a sustained period of time.

5.) 29 Jun 2019 20:03:17
Great news if true he has every chance of being the focal point of this new young team we are building.

6.) 30 Jun 2019 09:59:16
This is clearly nonsense. It’s all gone to his head and he is holding the club to ransom for £300K a week isn’t he?



08 Jun 2019 12:13:05
A few reports coming out now that united are getting frustrated and are surprised by the fees involved in signing british young players.

Have they been living under a rock for the past 6 or 16 years?

I completely understand that they have certain valuations for players and if they are quoted over that then they should back away in most circumstances and move on to other targets.

But prices for young british homegrown players have always been at a premium whether its rio ferdiand, andy carroll or kyle walker and i would be baffled if this was surprising them.


1.) 08 Jun 2019 13:07:43
There’s no doubt a Manchester United tax is added to the value of any player we approach.

Daniel James being the perfect example. We are paying twice the fee Leeds were quoted only four months ago.

2.) 09 Jun 2019 02:52:55
Rooney Rio Andy Carroll sterling Walker

The list goes on homegrown cost a hell of a lot more.

3.) 09 Jun 2019 08:28:29
Except Rooney and Rio were worth every penny for our club!

4.) 09 Jun 2019 09:38:35
Very true Eric. As is Sterling for City.

Imagine what Scholes would be worth today 🤔.

5.) 09 Jun 2019 12:36:56
AT Wazza finally someone who really rates Scholes as high as me, if we had a player like Scholes in our current squad our defense wouldn't be as exposed as it has been the past years, he is what i would call MAESTRO. one of those players that don't get recognize in England but are truly hard to find.

6.) 09 Jun 2019 15:22:58
Remanutd he’s exactly the type of player we need. You see Rashford making so many runs but the ball moves sideways.

I remember a game we were losing, playing badly and Scholes was brought on. It was the end of his career. But he collected the ball four times and each time he passed the ball forward. He was so aggressive with his passing, fast and direct.




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07 Jan 2022 10:27:22
Letting Trippier go to Newcastle for a pretty small reported fee make little sense to me.

Hes a clear upgrade on Dalot and AWB and knows the league well so could in theory hit the ground running.

Technique is good, crossing in much better than the aforementioned two and can cover the ground needed from a modern full back.


1.) 07 Jan 2022 10:39:06
He’s 32 this year, we aren’t going to build anything signing players that are going into the twilight of their careers.

2.) 07 Jan 2022 10:49:52
should have kept Williams instead of sending him on loan.

3.) 07 Jan 2022 10:59:08
Yet we are building things with a 35 year old Cavani and 37 year old Ronaldo up top?

On williams, he's not very good.

4.) 07 Jan 2022 11:02:46
Trippier is on a downward slope and turning 32, doesn't make sense. Instead prefer to coach and develop Dalot.

5.) 07 Jan 2022 11:29:06
We also need to sell before we buy.

6.) 07 Jan 2022 11:36:31
He is maybe an upgrade on what we have but every time i see Trippier play something i don't like about him. At 32 with big salary its a no for me. Ralf wouldn't sign a 32 year old right back.

7.) 07 Jan 2022 11:43:42
I wouldn't say we're building things with Cavani or Ron. Cavani will be gone in months and I wouldn't be surprised if CR7 doesn't stick around for his two seasons either.
I think parting with Williams was the right move, hopefully it stays permanent.

8.) 07 Jan 2022 16:11:45
I'd have signed him in the summer but not now only 18 months left in him at the top I feel.

9.) 07 Jan 2022 17:40:00
His coordination's gone, that's for sure.

10.) 07 Jan 2022 18:40:29
Laird is going to be coming through. We have enough there atm with other more pressing issues.

11.) 07 Jan 2022 20:03:18
I really think full back area is a huge problem, arguably now one of the most important position in most top teams and we’re really poor in that area! Especially in how rr wants to play!

12.) 07 Jan 2022 20:21:50
I agree Chris. On both sides of the pitch.

13.) 07 Jan 2022 20:22:45
Among the quagmire of players we're being linked with a fair bit in the past few days is a young LB/ CB Zagadou. Lots of potential but a lot of injury problems so far too.

14.) 07 Jan 2022 20:39:11
Trippier defensively is as good as AWB.
Trippier offensively is comfortably better than Dalot.

Not signing him in the summer was a huge mistake.

15.) 07 Jan 2022 23:25:52
With few words world class Downsie ? Really I don't think he is that good.

16.) 08 Jan 2022 13:53:51
newcastle could well replicate the keegan/ john hall era when they tried to buy but didn't win a single pot, notoriously 96 season -luv it if we beat them " . They have always found it hard to attract top players, coaches and keep anything decent with the exception of shearer, for a decent length of time.

17.) 09 Jan 2022 11:53:26
City don’t have a left back and seem to be doing ok.

18.) 10 Jan 2022 11:08:49
Eric, they do he's just been left back in a prison cell ?.



04 Jan 2022 13:56:30
I see we're back to the usual part of the united post fergie cycle where the players are getting stick for their attitude, work rate, passion and desire which may have its validity.

But i must admit i was disappointed in Ralfs management yesterday for two main reasons:

1.) For someone who professes to want to play a distinct style of football with player playing in their best positions, it was very odd to see us switch to a back 5 with wing backs of sancho and wan bissaka when we had actual wing backs on the bench. Also having cavani play in a wierd number 10 role behind ronaldo made little sense to me.

2.) For someone who professes to prefer working with younger players as they are more mouldable to his methods, it has been odd watching cavani, matic and ronaldo all play 180 mins in the span of 3 days.

Im not blaming Ralf for any of this as he's only been here a short period of time but he does need to be braver and start making some tough decisions even if it means burning some bridges.

Contrast this with Spurs under Conte who have a defined system, way of playing and undisputed first 11 of players the manager trust in a similar amount of time. Its time for Ragnick to walk a good game after talking a good game.


1.) 04 Jan 2022 15:50:08
I understand what you say DSG and i agree to some extent. But he can't just burn bridges because he is not our long term manager. I think it's difficult because of that and futhermore because of the reputation and wages some players have. He can't burn bridges with Ronaldo for examples. If he is to leave he will leave at the end of the season rather on good terms.

2.) 04 Jan 2022 17:32:28
I liked that we changed formation in the second half because the first 45 minutes weren't working, but it's a little worrying that we changed out of this system he's trying to implement.

I know the oldies like Matic, CR7 and Cavani hardly fit into his ethos of preferring to work with younger players as they are more likely to take new systems/ tactics onboard - but he can only work with what he has.

I think McT just about edges Fred but I'd personally prefer Metic in there too, and even though we have younger strikers I've been hoping to see Ronaldo and Cavani in the same team. Rashford/ Martial are not playing well enough!

3.) 04 Jan 2022 22:06:56
This is the issue appointing an interim. He’s not going to be our manager next season. He knows this, the club know this-
So he can’t exactly get rid of everyone. I’m sure we’re having conversations behind the scenes securing our next manager - maybe Ed can shed some light on that, but either way Ralf is moving to his consultancy role in the summer.

4.) 04 Jan 2022 22:17:47
I didn't think it was set in stone that Ralf is moving anywhere in six months. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he were to stay on if he were a success, which he alluded to himself. Of course, right now he has some serious work to do to convince anyone.

5.) 05 Jan 2022 18:15:49
Biggest problem with getting rid of players on high wages is who will want them. Presume the club can terminate their contracts, but will the Glazers sanction such moves? Don't think so. We do need a clear out, but I'm not sure our owners have the appetite for this as it could cost them tens of millions.
So, the circus will carry on, new managers will come and go as the players will revolt, and the club will carry on, until new owners and a manager come in with the same vision and ambition.

{Ed025's Note - i think you already have a few players who are revolting AAA.. :)



29 Nov 2021 14:35:11
I know this might sound patently ridiculous but i wouldn't mind the club and Ronaldo agreeing to him having a 3 month winter break on his yacht or private island until the champions league knockouts start.

Does Ronaldo really want to slum it in a top 4 battle? and are we going to learn anything new about ronaldo from the odd brace against the likes of Burnley or Norwich?

We have ballsed up this league campaign and the only salvageable part of the season is developing a team that is able to challenge for the league in upcoming seasons and i would love to see a front 3 of rashford/ sancho/ greenwood which i assume was the intention before city let it be know they were interested in Ronaldo.


1.) 29 Nov 2021 16:46:26
Ronaldo is not the problem. Without him we’d be out of Europe and we’d be ever further down the league.

2.) 29 Nov 2021 17:40:50
Why is Ronaldo all of a sudden a massive problem to us?
The media are putting the same spin on this Ronaldo or Rangnick scenario. I just don’t get it. Every team, regardless of style need a striker to put the ball in the net, we currently have one of the all time greatest, who is still fit and getting goals if anything Rangnick should be rubbing his hands together to be coming in and managing him. I’m not saying Ronaldo is bigger than the club or beyond being dropped if he is not performing but he certainly isn’t going to be a problem to Rangnick when he eventually takes over this squad.

3.) 29 Nov 2021 17:41:24
Caolan, that's a very simplistic way of looking at things.

While his goals have been good, his lack of work for the team has seen us hit our poorest form in 3 years.

His introduction has imbalanced the side.

Personally of all the goals he has scored maybe only one or two of them are goals Cavani maybe wouldn't have scored had he played instead.

However, had the club followed through with signing a CDM instead then defensive we probably wouldn't have conceded half as many goals as we have.

That said he's here now and we ideally need to find a solution that includes him rather than excludes him. Although I now suspect the 3rd year option on his deal is much less likely to be activated now we have some real footballing intelligence helping with the decision processes at the club.

4.) 29 Nov 2021 17:48:10
Pressing isn’t always necessarily just about running. It’s also about intelligence, positioning, cutting off passing lanes and forcing the opposition into areas of the pitch where we can win the ball back successfully. Ronaldo is experienced, he understands the game, others can do his running if he orchestrates the press by positioning himself intelligently.

If the idea is to win the ball back high up the pitch and play it forward quickly who better to finish the chances than Ronaldo. It should be music to his ears.

From what I’ve seen this season our main problems have been a lack of defensive organisation and players making terrible individual mistakes. Sort that out and we’ll improve immediately.

I don’t think Ronaldo will be a problem for Rangnick. In fact I think he’ll flourish in a system which allows us to win the ball higher up the pitch and move it forward quicker. He get more support and more chances.

5.) 29 Nov 2021 18:20:45
Without Ronaldo we would be in relegation battle and in Europa.
He has had few service and still converts half chances.

Our team as a whole don't press, so what's the point?
Does Martial press? Does Greenwood press?
Only one that does press is Cavani but it is of no use since rest of the team don't or aren't coached to do so.

6.) 29 Nov 2021 18:30:41
Shappy - His lack of work for the team? He’s hardly been the only one! To suggest Ronaldo is somehow responsible is ridiculous. Ole has always been a boom and bust manager. He’s nearly been sacked on at least three occasions and this was probably his hardest run of fixtures. It’s not like this hasn’t been coming.

I’d be more concerned about Rashford and Greenwood’s lack of work rate and pressing. Two young academy lads who haven’t won anything yet but with everything to prove. They can have no excuses.

I’m inclined to put it down to a lack of coaching and possibly even tactics. Everyone gets a fresh start but they’ll be expected to work much harder for the team and be more positionally disciplined otherwise they might find themselves both casualties of this new regime.

7.) 29 Nov 2021 18:39:59
Yes his goals have saved us in Europe, hence why i said he should make sure he is primed and ready for the knockouts.

8.) 29 Nov 2021 19:06:02
Shappy the team and ole crumbled under the weight of expectation.

9.) 29 Nov 2021 20:13:27
It's as if some people think we'd have been incredible this season if we hadn't signed Ronaldo.

Saying he is the problem or he doesn't press etc. Good managers will understand that when you sign a player of that calibre, you surely attempt to fit them in? You tweak your plans or you adjust? It's nonsense that he is a problem.

Our defence costing us goals plenty of times this season has nothing to do to with lack of pressing etc, it's just garbage play from massively out of form players and some who aren't good enough.

10.) 29 Nov 2021 21:06:54
Ronaldo is still world class and he certainly is NOT the problem. The problem is that we had a clueless manager who played slow, outdated football with no intention of pressing high up the pitch.
The critical point is that Solskjaer's tactics meant allowing the opposition to get to ourback 4 without any challenge. And that's the irony of it all, solskjaer spent all his time having two defensive midfielders protecting our back 4. The system failed miserably.
Rangnick will attempt to win the ball much higher up the pitch and that will benefit our strikers, but it will benefit our defenders even more, as the defensive line will start with our attackers.

11.) 29 Nov 2021 21:51:26
Imbalanced the team Shappy?
That nicely balanced team from the 20/ 21 season, who we were screaming out for a RW and striker.
We had an injured Rashford, underperforming Martial, Greenwood who’s still learning his trade and Cavani, who is quality when fit and available. Adding Ronaldo and Sancho has balanced up the attack.



18 Oct 2021 16:32:13
Just a couple of points from the leicester game that are not manager related.

1.) All the money we've spent on attackers and rashford/ greenwood who cost nothing are probably our best attackers, Greenwood especially is a fantastic player. Both lads are brave on the ball looking to make things happen, heads never drop and both have great work rate to go with their special ability.

Any future squad/ team building should have them at the forefront over pogba, bruno, sancho and ronaldo etc.

2.) Every time we play leicester, the best centre back on the pitch by a mile is jonny evans, can pass the ball with both feet, composed on the ball, good in the air, knows all the tricks of the trade and knows how to marshal a defence.

In my opinion, our worst transfer decision in terms of outbounds post Ferguson.


1.) 18 Oct 2021 16:44:24
First point is spot on buddy seen posters on here asking for team to be built around Ronaldo? There is no future in that and has no forward thinking.

2.) 18 Oct 2021 16:46:18
Selling Evans to keeping Smalling and Jones and worse to bring in Rojo was a downright travesty. Probably made worse by then spending 80m to bring in his CB partner rather than bringing Evans home.

If given the chance do you think Leicester would take Maguire back at a cut price 40m? No chance if you ask me.

Don't get me wrong I don't think Maguire is an awful player, he just has far too many limitations for an 80m defender. If he was Greek he wouldn't have cost even 25m. Although if he was Greek he'd probably be in prison right now but that's a different subject.

3.) 18 Oct 2021 17:44:09
The team should have been built around Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho, but we’ve now signed Ronaldo so the team will have to play for him. We can’t have Rashford and Greenwood cutting inside and shooting all the time now we’ve got Ronaldo. Ole will have to find away of getting better service to Ronaldo.

That could mean changing to three at the back and using wing backs to put crosses into the box. Ole will have to come up with a solution very quickly or he’ll lose his job. He must find a system where we’re not wide open in midfield and easy to play through whilst getting quality service to Ronaldo.

Maybe we all got carried away with Ronaldo and didn’t take the time to full understand and appreciate the ramifications. You can’t have the best player striker in the world and not give him any service. You can’t allow Greenwood to keep cutting inside and shooting at every opportunity or things will unravel very quickly! You can’t continue to play with two attacking wide forwards and leave yourself wide open through the middle of the pitch.

4.) 18 Oct 2021 17:58:21
DLIB, at least one player needs to be the creator/ facilitator in the front three. I agree playing Ronaldo, Rashford and Greenwood is like having three guns and no bullets. We need someone to provide them the ammunition.

I think that is where Sancho and Cavani fit in. Both can do the creative work. They do so in different ways, Cavani with his off the ball movement and ability to hold up and link play, Sancho with his vision, passing and movement. I'd expect to see one of them start with two of Ronaldo, Rashford and Greenwood.

Nothing wrong with have two good options on the bench who could change the game. Where would we have been in 99 if we couldn't bring Solskjaer and Sheringham off the bench?

I think the real question is with those 5 players for 3 positions then where does that leave Martial, Lingard, Mata, Amad, Elanga etc?

5.) 18 Oct 2021 17:58:31
I called it early and it wasn’t a popular view as he’d scored a few goals early on but the problems were pretty clear early on.

6.) 18 Oct 2021 18:51:36
I'm not getting the whole ronaldo will be a problem thing, it looks the same whoever is central striker.

We have lots of the ball and lots in the opponents half but a very little amount in the opponents box . We seem to form a semi circle around the opponents box and the ball is knocked around this semi circle until pogba or bruno try an eye of the needle ball into the box into a heavily marked striker or a wide man cuts in and shoots,

It looks great when any of these come off like greenwood's at the weekend or the lingard goal against Newcastle but much of the time it looks like a training drill for the defense .

Maybe instead of knocking it around the semi circle around the box the wide man could just put it in the box and ronaldo, the opposite wide man, pog and bruno could all get into the box and attack it .

Feels like I've seen ronaldo knocking them in for fun for Portugal recently with service into the box . I'm no coach though so happy to be told I'm not seeing it correctly or something else is happening.

7.) 18 Oct 2021 18:21:00
Tony, Ronaldo returning was always a double edged sword. On one hand he's a proven winner, top player and has the adulation of the fans. On the other he isn't the player he used to be and the team would have to set up to get the best out of him. While his demands and the size of his character could unsettle the dressing room.

It's the classic head vs heart. While I tend to go with the head as the better option, football is for the passion and therefore requires some decisions to be made with the heart. I think Ronaldo can be a success on his return, but we need a better set up to make that work. Is Ole up to that? Probably not, hopefully the next guy is.

8.) 18 Oct 2021 22:12:33
As much as I want a change of manager, Ole has to choose a settled side or change of formation. 352 would be my pick. Back 3 of AWB, Varane, Bailey. Dalot and Shaw as wingbacks. Midfield three of Bruno, Fred and McTominay. And front two of Cavani and Ronaldo. Shappy or any other posters I would value your insights.
I went with that back 3 because I believe we wouldn't have to worry about balls over the top due to their quickness. As Much as we hate McFred as a duo, I believe they would provide the necessary defensive cover to allow Bruno to push up and provide the creativity. Shaw and Dalot providing the width and putting crosses into the box for Cavani and Ronaldo. We would still have enough quality on the bench to effect change if chasing the game or provide rest to players if we're winning comfortably.

9.) 19 Oct 2021 05:09:27
I would never ever ever play AWB as a CB even in a back 3. His skillset just isn't right for it.

He is weak in the air, positionally lax, and too easily bullied physically.

His best defending attitude is tackling 1v1. But it's fine to go to ground in the wide areas as if you give a foul away it's not in the penalty box. Having a player who is keen to stick their foot in playing inside the penalty box is a disaster waiting to happen. Play AWB in a back 3 and he'll give away 5-7 penalties a season.

There's so much more to being a CB than tackling, and AWB has none of those skills.

I'm not against back three systems, I just don't think they would get the best out of the players we have.

With a back 3 system you have to play wingbacks. That leaves no place for AWB.

Bruno is too good to drop which means you either crowbar him into one of the midfield pivot positions. Or you play him in his best position, which forces a front 2.

So then you naturally play with Ronaldo and Cavani.

But where does that leave Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho?

Can Pogba play in the midfield pivot? Maybe, but even with three at the back his lack of tracking players and defensive work means he isn't suited to that role very well. He would need a true No.6 along side him. We only have Matic in that role and his legs have gone.

We have plenty of CB's but are they well suited to playing in a back three? In that system the wider of the CB's need to be mobile and comfortable moving out wide and playing as auxiliary full backs at times. They need to be quick and mobile.

As such Maguire could only play as the main central CB, Varane on as the RCB but then who plays LCB?

None of Bailly, Jones or Lindelof are comfortable there. In the past when we have played a back three we played Shaw as a LCB as he is most suited to it. We could do that with Telles at LWB. But it leaves us stretched and an injury to either of them away from either having to change shape or crowbar square players into round holes.

I know three at the back systems are quite in vouge currently, and at a cursory glance our large number of CB's give the impression that we could be a good candidate for that system.

Yet the reality is that we would probably need to line up something like DDG, Dalot, Varane, Maguire, Shaw, Telles, McTominay, Fred, Bruno, Cavani and Ronaldo to play that system.

We would still struggling with creativity in the midfield.

We would be an injury to either wingback of Shaw away from having to scrap the system as there is no adequate cover for any of them.

While it leaves no place for Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho. Two 75m+ signings and our two best academy graduates.



04 Oct 2021 18:16:23
Two points:

1.) Can we now add Watford to the list of teams with a better manager than us?

2.) Scott Mctominay can't even get into Scotlands first team in central midfield and has to be shoehorned in as an auxiliary centre half but starts for us every week.


1.) 04 Oct 2021 18:58:29
DSG McTominay is a good player. However I said something similar about Fred… when him and mctominay are squad players, starting maybe 20 games in all comps max then you’ll know we will have a very strong midfield. Whilst they’re first choice, we won’t compete with the absolute best.

2.) 04 Oct 2021 19:00:38
You can add the Scotland manager to the list too dsg. And Big sam and Tony pulis.

3.) 05 Oct 2021 10:34:47

McTominay playing CB for Scotland has less to do with him being shoehorned in and more to do with Scotland's lack of decent options at CB at that time. He's first choice for Scotland and more often than not plays midfield now.




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19 Jan 2022 10:18:24
Considering our "Brazilian" CM can't control the football, the Scottish CM hides from the football, the Serbian CM moves slower than Prince Phillip in his current state and the Dutch CM is being bullied in the workplace, the least of our problems is Paul Pogba over the next 6 months.

Moonwalks back into the team on one leg at the moment.




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12 Jan 2022 13:06:49
2nd best defender after Varane, has been fit all season, should have gotten more game time instead of the Fridge.




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03 Jan 2022 09:46:07
Id argue with our midfield options of Matic and McFred, even getting our 4th or 5th choice would be an upgrade in that position.

Even a loan deal stop gap signing would be worth pursuing in January to get someone with a half decent first touch and not scared of passing the ball. Even someone like jonjo shelvey would be an upgrade on our current midfield options in terms of passing certainly.




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31 Dec 2021 10:22:31
He should have been allowed to leave in the summer when he wanted to, seems like a decent lad who just wants to play first team football.

Also he is out of the Holland squad atm and needs to be playing regularly to get in that for Qatar 2022 so should push for a move in January even if that means kicking up a fuss.

Ballpark figures are that he cost £40m and i assume he's on at least £80-100K a week, imagine if we actually spent that on a cdm in summer of 2020 to gradually phase Matic out and not rely on Mcfred. We would actually look like we know what we are doing in terms of building a squad.




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18 Dec 2021 08:52:21
Yes he's had a bust up with Ronaldo and is going to move to Arsenal in January in exchange for Aubameyang.





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16 Jan 2022 09:13:39
For me the key is signing players who are technically secure in posession. Too many of our players can't even control the ball properly and make basic 5 yard passes (cough Fred cough) .

2-0 up yesterday if we had players who could just keep the ball and monopolise posession we would have won comfortably and City/ Liverpool would have done that.




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13 Jan 2022 13:35:12
Our current captain isn't playing like a captain tbf.

Also the biggest achievement on his club football CV is a relegation with Hull and the only silverware he has touched have been Greek handcuffs.

So Ronaldo as captain isn't that bad a shout.




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10 Jan 2022 10:06:16
It was an unnecessary nostalgia trip at the time and many people on here questioned the wisdom of the transfer so its not revisionism.

It also shows how much Pep and city have rattled us as a club and how much we are in awe of them and what they have achieved in the premier league that as soon as they are linked with a player we get scared and try to pip them without any thought of how we would actually integrate those players into our own team.

Maguire, Fred, Alexis and now a 37 year old Ronaldo. City have pulled our pants down in the transfer market four times now and set the club back years.




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07 Jan 2022 10:59:08
Yet we are building things with a 35 year old Cavani and 37 year old Ronaldo up top?

On williams, he's not very good.




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06 Jan 2022 10:41:07
What AJH said plus we are not getting as many lucky penalties as last season.

Also last season in between hoofing the ball and giving it away for fun Bruno was actually productive. This season he's just hoofing it and giving it away for fun.