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20 Aug 2022 10:40:45
Maguire and Mctominay linked with moves away.
Could be a clever way for the club to recoup some relatively decent transfer fees because of the british tax and the perceived “Pashun”value.
1.) 20 Aug 2022 11:35:07
The so called "English tax" has nothing to do with how they play or passion, but everything to do with both having to have a number of "homegrown" players, and the perception that clubs want to have by having players from their own nation playing for their side.
PSG want to have top French players, Italian clubs want the best Italian players, Spanish clubs want the best Spanish players, German clubs want the best German players, and of course English clubs want the the best English players.
There is a premium on English players simply because English clubs are among the wealthiest in the world, and there is a serious lack of top end English players. Simple supply and demand.
2.) 20 Aug 2022 16:33:56
What would seriously be a worthwhile fee for Maguire? Even half what Utd paid would be daylight robbery. I think there are some qualities in there but he is so devoid of confidence right now like many Utd players. I think he’d be a better player without the burden of the red shirt which draws so much press.
3.) 20 Aug 2022 17:20:28
The reality is that Maguire was made to look the business by Jonny Evans - a player deemed not good enough.
Then, with confidence on a high, he translated that form to the England team.
Since at United, he's played mainly alongside Lindelof who is mid-table level with full backs who don't offer decent protection and a midfield that cannot deal with pressure.
Ultimately, if he was surrounded by better defensive players and wasn't so relied upon to organise, he'd perform better.
I still don't think he's at the level we'd like, but he's far from the worst defensive member of the squad and has seen his greater urgency render him, from the outset, more culpable.
Shaw, imo, is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen, just like McTominay - they both, along with Dalot, AWB and Telles, have failed their defensive teammates consistently.
4.) 20 Aug 2022 23:33:53
Woggle I hope you were trying to wiggle in some banter because wtf.
5.) 21 Aug 2022 02:21:43
If the deal for Pulisic does indeed never materialise or is just click bait can we send them Maguire anyway to say sorry?
6.) 21 Aug 2022 08:34:15
Keefy, sending them Maguire as an apology is akin to throwing a brick with a note attached through your neighbors window to apologise for kicking your football into their garden.
7.) 21 Aug 2022 09:28:56
Woggle. Maguire messes even simple passes to GK. He will be found out even if he plays in all time great teams. AWB can do a solid defensive job in right back. He may be very useful as a sub in seeing off tight games after 70 mins or so.
8.) 21 Aug 2022 09:58:28
Would be more pleased to see Luke Shaws name on the list tbh, can’t wait to see the day he leaves.
9.) 21 Aug 2022 11:31:50
Yaz.
Maguire is most certainly not good enough, I basically believe he's made to look even worse by other people.
Maestro.
AWB is a truly awful defender.
Just because he has better lally-flapping ability, it does not make him a decent defender. His reading and positioning are absolutely pathetic - he should be the first guy to go.
FZZ.
Couldn't agree more, Shaw is pish.
Ultimately, United have spent £160m on the aforementioned three and their combined value now would be half of that at best.
United have 7 defenders out of 10 senior options - AWB, Dalot, Williams, Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof and Bailly, who are simply not good enough to be starters. That's the problem, at least one player who isn't good enough will need to start.
Selling Maguire would make me happy, but does it solve our problems defensively?
No, because we'd still have to play Lindelof or Bailly when Varane isn't fit and we'd still be reliant on 3 RB options who are all mid-table level.
As for this consensus that, in light of how poor he is, Maguire must be our worst defensive option - bollards!
AWB is easily the most incompetent defender I've ever seen at United.
We need another RB now, and will need at least one more CB before we can think about selling Maguire who, whilst certainly not good enough, is no worse than Lindelof or Bailly.
10.) 21 Aug 2022 12:23:47
United's squad problem is simple to understand. Imagine there are two boxes. Box one is labelled technical ability and intelligence. While box two is labelled physical ability (pace/ power) .
Now go through the squad list and place each player in the appropriate box based on their best aspect.
Now step back and realise box 2 is overflowing and box 1 has very few players in it, while there are probably only a couple of players who could go in either box.
Any manager who has tried to get these players to play as a team with intelligence, adhering to a tactical plan based on making smart decisions and technical ability rather than playing on instinct trying to outpace or overpower the opposition with physical traits has failed miserably to do so.
This is simply because this group of players lacks the technical quality and intelligence to play that way.
11.) 21 Aug 2022 13:20:45
Realistic transfer fee for Maguire
Half a bag of Hola Hoops and 3 jellybeans. Although I'd feel we we're robbing the other club blind.
12.) 21 Aug 2022 13:23:41
Props to the Shappy, that's the most perfect yet, frustratingly, simple way of explaining why United's squad is so disjointed.
01 Jun 2022 09:52:47
Hi Ed002, you mentioned on the Everton page that Richarlison could be offered to Real Madrid or Man United through his agent.
Do the club have any interest in signing him?
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
1.) 01 Jun 2022 11:37:11
Lets hope. not.
19 May 2022 23:12:00
Dean Henderson to Newcastle?
Makes a little bit of sense as a permanent move if we need to bring in money.
But doesn't make much sense as a loan deal, if were being honest newcastle will potentially be challenging for europe next season, doesn't make sense to strengthen a rival.
1.) 19 May 2022 23:26:24
Think I’d prefer Dubravka….
18 Jun 2021 18:24:36
Reports that ole is going make a definitive decision on the number 1 spot and has opted for Henderson.
Not an easy call to make and leaves the club in a tough position with DDG.
An alexis type loan deal most likely for him I assume if he wants first team football next season.
1.) 18 Jun 2021 22:23:23
The sensible decision.
2.) 19 Jun 2021 07:32:32
The sensible decision in what way? DDG has been a loyal servant, Henderson has had one good season at Sheff Utd and has more market value. Just because it’s the decision you’d make doesn’t make it sensible Shappy. Think i speak for many on here when I say the sooner you realise that the better.
3.) 19 Jun 2021 07:37:47
What are the loan options, most clubs seem settled in the goalkeeping department, and then there is the matter of his £375k a week wages to cover.
4.) 19 Jun 2021 07:57:45
Thats why its going to have to be an alexis type deal where we pay a fair chunk of the players wages while they play for their loan club.
5.) 19 Jun 2021 09:21:28
Red Whiskey, DDG has continued to decline every year for the past 3 seasons. That is not a blip but a clear pattern of decline.
Currently Henderson and DDG although having different strengths and qualities are probably on par.
So if you have two keepers, on a similar level, but one is declining while the other is improving then surely backing the keeper who is on the up is the sensible thing to do.
DDG has been a loyal servant and he has been paid handsomely for it. He is the highest paid player in the league, yet he isn't even in the top ten best players in the league currently. He has also had a little dig at the club in a post wishing Romero the best. Saying that Romero deserves to be treated well by his next club. He might be 100% right in what he is saying. Yet to publicly back a player leaving the club over the club doesn't look great.
Personally given that it will be hard to sell DDG this summer then loaning him out seems like the best and most sensible decision.
That way both keepers understand their role and it removes the indecision that has impacted both of their performances this season.
Henderson gets a shot at proving himself without the spectre of DDG hanging over his head.
DDG gets a fresh club to play at which might give him the jolt needed to get him back to his best form.
While if Henderson flops then we still have DDG on the books to come back.
6.) 19 Jun 2021 09:30:51
RedWhiskey
What are you on about? It looks like you have a massive soft spot for DDG. Logically thinking, DDG does not deserve to be first choice gk anymore. He has been horrible for past three years and yet is the highest paid player in the league.
Form loss usually only last for weeks or months. DDG has lost his form for 3 years now which means he is in decline. As much he has done for the club, it is time to say good bye.
It is sad to see many people slating henderson just because he is here to replace their beloved DDG. Henderson is still learning and can only be better. He is better in everthing compared to DDG except shot stopping. To be fair, DDG has never been good at anything except shot stopping and there was no one better than him.
As Shappy said, sensible thing is to go for Henderson as first choice and sell DDG. If he was at low wage then i would understand but he is at incredibly stupid wage which is not healthy for the club.
7.) 19 Jun 2021 10:31:40
Henderson is a perfectly adequate goalkeeper, but is that what we want, adequate.
We all agree that DDG needs to be moved on, ideally he would like to go back to Madrid, but neither club there looks an option at the moment. Heard that he sounded out Barcelona as he is close friends with Aguero, but the money situation is too difficult to overcome.
The more you look at it the madder his contract looks, with three years to run and £60million still due to him. Those are big numbers for loan clubs to consider and even bigger for United for someone who might not be playing for you, dwarfs the cost of sacking Jose which cost us only £20million.
Personally I would prefer if we went for someone like Meslier, who is already ahead of Henderson in ability, yet three years younger.
8.) 19 Jun 2021 10:50:58
Grim, he only has two years left on his contact until June 2023. I fully agree that in hindsight the length and size of his contract seems like a bad decision.
I disagree that Henderson is merely "adequate". I think he is a very talented keeper. I'm also not the only one, with teams such as Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all having had him seriously scouted and interested in signing him (although with PSG signing Donnarumma I expect their interest has gone now) .
Top sides are interested because they see the talent in him. I'd say his current level is greater than that of DDG during his first couple of season's with us.
It would be madness of the club to let him go without giving him a season as first choice to see if he can prove himself at the highest level.
9.) 19 Jun 2021 11:40:05
For me there is no contest between them. If DDG can restore his confidence, which is the problem, then in terms of skill I haven't seen Henderson do anything in the numerous chances he was given last season to suggest he's anywhere near the same level. He's English and has come through our ranks and people like that. But he's not really done a thing as far as I'm concerned other than play well for a lesser side on loan where he was tested far more often.
10.) 19 Jun 2021 11:56:26
Hendo for me all day long. If we lose him we will be searching for a new number 1 in a year or 2 and will struggle to find a keeper as good as him because if he's playing every week he's going to get better.
11.) 19 Jun 2021 12:40:00
Option on the additional year Shappy, we usually extend those because we want to get a fee for a player. With the exception of the Dog Walker, have we ever let a player at DDG's level go without asking for money in return?
I agree Henderson is talented, but so is Lingard, at United he is a squad player, not a first team player.
Interesting that Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all looked at Dean. However PSG decided on Donnurumma, Dortmund went with Kobel, Spurs were actually looking at Maignan until he went to Milan, Chelsea considered Donnarumma, but now he has gone to PSG will stick with what they have and Arsenal want Onana.
12.) 19 Jun 2021 13:52:27
The problem is, is that DDG has made mistakes for the past 3 years and until this season wasn't dropped. Romero deserved to be our number 1.
In OGS first season DDG cost us a place in the CL by making some very silly errors, which were partly down to OGS wanting to play out from the back. The club then went on to offer him a huge new contract, which he didn't deserve due to how poor his form was. Even Mourinho said on Sky Sports that is was very surprised that he got a deal like that given how poor he had been.
OGS can't make a decision. He Brough Henderson back, left Romero in the lurch and the only GK who was probably happy was Grant.
I can't wait for the club to offer pogba a new monster deal and watch him play poorly again. He clearly doesn't want to be at the club. During the Euros his comments have made it obvious.
Utd are a poorly managed club, run by amateurs.
13.) 19 Jun 2021 14:08:12
There is no proof that Henderson will only get better and improve and there is no proof that a goalkeeper at 31 will keep declining.
The only real question is if we believe Henderson will become a top top keeper, i personally don't. So we have two options:
1) We believe in him becoming a top keeper and far better than the current ability of De Gea so we keep him.
2)We don't believe in him and believe that it is a risk so we sell him NOW because now his price is higher. After 1-2 average seasons his price will go down. Furthermore between two "average" keepers i would prefer the one with the expiration date (De Gea) . He has two year contract and we have enough time to think about his replacement if we won't renew his contract. He will also be 33 and we will have an easy desicion. With Henderson it will not be an easy desicion because of age and nationality, so if he is half decent stick with him so stick with an average keeper.
So the sensible choice is stick with De Gea and at the same time try to find his replacement after 1-2 seasons.
14.) 19 Jun 2021 14:14:59
Hatter,
You’ve just said OGS can’t make a decision then described the decision he made. I think what you mean is he made a decision you didn’t agree with which is different.
15.) 19 Jun 2021 14:37:30
Id sell them both and go for Oblak. You never know until you ask.
16.) 19 Jun 2021 15:17:47
Is this a new trend over here where players are judged without being given a proper chance to prove themselves? And yet we got Ole in charge.
I agree DeGea is the more experienced and better shot stopper of the two and if possible I would have him as No.1 with Henderson as backup rotating with him and gaining experience in the process.
However, if we have to make a choice then based on the mistakes made by both I would keep Henderson as he is much younger and a better all round keeper and has time on his side to improve upon his weakness. I would give him a season to see if he can step up and if not we can always get someone better.
The problem though is with DeGea's contract right now and we somehow need to handle that.
GrimisnotDead as far as Lingard is concerned he was given more than enough chances in the first team which he failed to take. And other teams haven't come in for Hendo probably because we are not yet ready to let him go.
17.) 19 Jun 2021 16:02:25
It's definetely the riskier of the options. Ole immediately alienated Lukaku upon his arrival in place of the local lad. After numerous options up front the situation will require major attention at the end of this season. Will history repeat itself?
I personally think it's the wrong decision but I hate the idea of rotating GKs. If he's chosen Henderson then so be it.
18.) 19 Jun 2021 21:08:56
LPU, wasn't Lingard only behind Lukaku in the scoring stats in 17/ 18 under Jose, hardly not taking his chance. He then had his dip in form which was due to his well know off field issues. Ole initially refused to let him go on loan, its was only because Jesse forced the issue that Ole buckled, and you have to agree he took his chance at WH.
Teams haven't come in for Hendo because clubs know we aren't ready to let him go? That is not how football works, if a club was truly interested in him they would have already sounded out his agent about the possibility of a move, the fact that the majority have scouted him and moved on says alot.
But that is the beauty of football, we all have opinions, for me Henderson would be perfect for an Everton or West Ham, but not a top four team, which is what we expect to be.
19.) 20 Jun 2021 04:47:01
GrimisnotDead, Lingard played well for a while but he was afforded a lot of chances to make the position his own which he failed to do so. So, effectively he has not taken his chance.
How do you know that other clubs haven't come in for him? And without even giving Henderson a proper chance why are you even judging him to not be good for us? Just give him a chance to prove himself before making a hasty judgement.
20.) 20 Jun 2021 07:53:18
Grim, I don't think Lingard and Henderson's situations are comparable.
Lingard has made 133 appearances for the club over a 7 year period, under three different managers.
Henderson has made 13 appearances, in one year, under one manager, with 8 of them coming in a run of consecutive games.
Teams have come in for Henderson, they have approached his agent and they have approached the club and have been met with a flat out no.
The fact they have moved on when a top club have refused to sell them a player, only says they are well run and not stupid.
21.) 20 Jun 2021 08:12:12
Herrera, while there might not be any definitive proof that a 24 year old goalkeeper will continue to improve. It's pretty well accepted that most players hit their peaks in their late 20's or early 30's. With keepers often hitting their peaks later and sustaining it for longer.
So while there is not proof that Henderson will improve, probably around 90% of keepers at his age will continue to improve.
Is there any definitive proof that DDG will continue to decline? No, but he has shown a steady and continuous decline over the past 3 seasons. That's more than a blip. Poor form lasts week's, maybe months, but not years.
For me the only way I see DDG rediscovering his form is if he moves and has a new challenge. Even then I doubt that will see him return to his absolute best.
For me he is a similar keeper to Casillas. Great shot stopper, average at everything else. Even at his peak DDG was weak in the air, his distribution was average, his command of his area was poor. But he made saves that no one had a right to make. His reactions were freakish.
The issue is as you age your reaction speed declines first. We saw it with Casillas and we are seeing it with DDG. His shot stopping is still way above average, but it's not anywhere near where it was when he was 26. And in my opinion it never will be again.
This has exposed DDG's lack of quality in all other goalkeeping departments. His inability to play out from the back has seen him lose his spot for the national team, first to Kepa now to Simon.
Both decent keepers but not world class.
The reality is that he is likely to continue to decline. Apparently Ole has set him with specific training to try and improve his distribution. Something I wonder why no other managers/ goalkeeping coaches have done. Over the past 8 years he should have been working to improve his weaknesses and make himself a better all round keeper, that would have mitigated his loss in reaction time as he aged and would have kept him near the top.
Currently there are maybe 4 or 5 keepers in the EPL better than him. With some young ones who over the next year or so might overtake him as well. Dean Henderson being one of them.
I expect if you went to all the top sides and offered them DDG or Henderson right now for the same price, say 30m. The majority would pick Henderson. That tells you all you need to know about who should be out No.1.
22.) 20 Jun 2021 08:38:42
I miss van der Sar : (.
23.) 20 Jun 2021 09:39:56
Trololo, I miss VDS, my personal favourite keeper during my lifetime.
04 Jan 2021 20:54:57
Rojo to boca juniors? Not sure if accurate but Would make sense for him to finish his playing back in his natice argentina.
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19 Feb 2026 11:47:15
I know they only have ten points but the few games i have watched Wolves play this season, they haven't looked half bad tbh.
Mane especially looks like a talent, would not be surprised if we were in for him in the summer when they go down.
1.) 19 Feb 2026 12:01:37
DSG, funny you should mention this, I was watching last night and thinking to myself they have a few players you wouldn’t mind taking. I’d take the GK as back up (if he was up for it obvs) J Gomes, Mane and the big fella who came on up front as back up striker.
Think they’ll have their work cut out to keep a lot of their players next season.
2.) 19 Feb 2026 14:48:51
Are they really good enough? We need players that are going to go straight into the first 11 and take us to the next level to challenge Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Liverpool.No doubt, Wolves will also want north of 50 million pounds for each of the players that you have mentioned above.They are nowhere near worth that kind of money.
3.) 19 Feb 2026 23:22:56
I think Andre is the player we need badly even Ed001 said he would be the better of the 2 Wolves players and I totally agree. He always makes himself available for the defence to play out, and he keeps it simple. Better than Gones in my op.
4.) 20 Feb 2026 10:39:18
Wolves will go down this season, and when they do there are a plethora of great players that will be hoovered up by other EPL teams.
Jorgen Strand Larsen has already been snapped up by Palace.
You then have the likes of Jose Sa, Mosquera, Hugo Bueno, André, João Gomes, and Mateus Mané.
While Tom Edozie coming on and grabbing a goal against Arsenal on his debut will mean the hipsters will be keeping a close eye on him over the remaining games this season.
For us there are a few players there we could look at in the summer.
Jose Sa at 33 could be a great back up keeper for Lammens, someone with experience who could help the young Belgian though those inevitable sticky patches that will come.
Hugo Bueno is someone I've been quietly impressed with since Aït-Nouri left for City. He's stepped and in while he hasn't got the kind of assists that Aït-Nouri managed he does create some really good chances that just haven't been put away this season. Not the strongest in the air but generally good defensive positioning. However, that is mostly playing as a wingback, personally I'd like to see how he adapts to playing at fullback before making a move for him.
João Gomes could also be an excellent pick up for us, especially as that second/third midfielder we sign. He is basically everything we hoped Ugarte would be. Aggressive, athletic, covers ground and makes generally good decisions when on the ball. He'd pair well with Mainoo, with both of them bringing things the other lacks.
However, Mateus Mané is the one I'd prioritise from Wolves. He really impressed me when they played us. For an 18 year old in his debut season he is stronger than he has any right to be, so hard to knock off the ball. He also has that scrappy nature where he doesn't shy away from rough treatment, in fact he seems to thrive on it. His ball carrying ability and how tough he is to disposses draws opposition players to him as one Vs one he'll have them on toast. That ability to not only force the opposition to double up on you, and still come out with the ball or finding a way to get it to a teammate really opens teams up and creates space for teammates. He's exactly the kind of player you want/need to breakdown low blocks. Young and homegrown, along with him spending a lot of his youth in and around Manchester just further sweetens the deal. He has also shown great tactical flexibility for Wolves this season playing on the left, the right, up front and in midfield. Wherever he has played he has also been impactful, highlighting a real tactical intelligence.
5.) 20 Feb 2026 18:24:30
Yeah Shappy, Mane looks like a guy that will make it to me. Love his attitude, and he has very good ability. I think most of the players you mentioned above will leave. However, Mane will be on less than the average Championship wage. I'd imagine they will see the most expensive 1st and may look to hold on to Mane in order to bounce back up.
If they raise enough from others, I'd be holding on to him if I were Wolves for at least another season if they think he is the real deal. But money talks. Definitely one to watch.
03 Feb 2026 10:31:08
If Kobbie Mainoo was at palace, brighton or forest, how much do you think he would be worth?
1.) 03 Feb 2026 10:52:43
For me he's in the bracket just slightly below Andeson around 65 70 and about the same as what Wharton and Baleba should be 55 to 60 million.
2.) 03 Feb 2026 10:53:02
He's still finding his feet after a lack of game time, but if gets back to his previous level then big bucks. People forget he played for England in a major final and was one of United's best players that year.
It feels like he is currently playing it safe, which is perhaps not surprising given he was ignored for 18 months. If I was Carrick, I would be telling him to be himself and show what he can do.
3.) 03 Feb 2026 11:21:35
I think Mainoo has looked positionally very aware. Whether it's his own observation or Amorim's coaching or simple pointers from Carrick I think he's showing he should have been trusted some time ago. With a more athletic player beside him he'll look even better I expect.
4.) 03 Feb 2026 13:07:05
You’re right AJH, it feels like he’s still finding his feet and working out how to play alongside Cas and Bruno. The most encouraging thing is that he’s starting to link with Bruno. I think that’s the key to our midfield, having someone who can push up to work with Bruno in attack and still has the legs to get back to help Cas defensively.
If he can get that role down, the creativity will come in time.
5.) 03 Feb 2026 13:55:27
He showed in fa cup final that he could link well with bruno.
Was always a myth that the two couldn't play with each other in the same team, they complement each other well.
6.) 03 Feb 2026 14:44:01
He's a very promising young player. Needs to play, but also needs to have competition. I don't like that we are completely reliant on him now. Not good for him and his development. I think he could benefit from a few sub ons at 60 mins when he has the fresh legs and can influence a bit more.
He does well, but also can give away a simple pass- presume it is concentration rather than ability. I do want to see him fitter and stronger, not sure he has finished growing physically yet. Agree that he is being a bit safe, which is understandable. He was key these last few games though.
7.) 03 Feb 2026 15:55:39
Love kobbie, he really is a quality player. Has massive potential. It's incredible to think he couldn't get a start given what we have seen from him in the last 3 games.
Hardest part of playing CM, is being able to dictate and control part of the game and he can really do that. Plus he plays the ball forward and awful lot which a lot of CMs don't do.
If he was at any club like palace/forest etc and had played form England at a major tournament and stared, no doubt he would be 80million.
Quality player.
8.) 03 Feb 2026 16:53:18
I think he is a big part of how we played angel. He played a lot of passes forward and out wide right in last game. Something that was clearly a tactic to attack on that side. He seems to be a bit of thinking man's player - can't wait to see what he can do under Carrick and co for rest of season.
9.) 03 Feb 2026 16:54:04
I know Urd are linked with wharton, Anderson and Baleba, but how would they all fit together in midfield?
I suspect Utd will try to sign at least 2 of them. Where do people think Mainoo will play? Will Bruno be sold or kept as a 10 for another season?
10.) 03 Feb 2026 18:52:11
If we were able to get Anderson and Baleba for example, anderson and mainoo would start and baleba would be the third choice in the rotation.
Assuming we get into europe, we should be playing 50-60 games next season so more than enough game time to go around. Mainoo has already had some injury issues in both of the last two seasons tbf.
11.) 03 Feb 2026 19:08:46
Exactly DSG, we need 4 first team ready midfielders. Especially with European football, domestic cups that hopefully go longer than 1 game each and young player like Kobbie included in the 4. This is not much to ask.
Mount and Bruno are not 6/8s. Yes they can do a job, but not in the main 4. Martinez can cover in the event of injury, again not in the 4.
Games are won and lost midfield, we need to have right squad balance. Zirkzee malacia surplus and gaping hole in CM.
12.) 04 Feb 2026 04:24:58
I just can’t see us signing Anderson and Baleba let alone Wharton too think that’s just dreaming and unrealistic pie in the sky, maybe 1 of those 3 and a cheaper alternative is about it in real world or united world anyway.
13.) 04 Feb 2026 09:19:31
About 30 million for me. I Like the boy as he is a academy player but in reality. he doesn't create always passes it safe, he doesn't score, he's not the best defensively. Not the best going forward. Since coming back into the team he has covered a lot of ground but he can go 30 minutes without his name being mentioned. Rarley spreads play or plays a long ball, when he does its usually behind the runner. He is neat and tidy and that's about it so far.
If he wasn't an academy player i'm not sure we would look to sign him. He's limited in his mobility. His best asset is passing 5 yards and being a decent dribbler that he doesn't use enough. For me currently he's a level below anderson, wharton and baleba. Anderson is better all round player, wharton is better on the ball and dictating play, Baleba is better at recovering the ball and mobility. Hopefully he kicks on and excels at something.
14.) 04 Feb 2026 10:35:23
I think that's harsh dio, although he has yet to get back to his previous level.
15.) 04 Feb 2026 11:40:35
Mainoo can run with and move the ball between lines, a very useful attribute. However he can’t control a game or dominate the midfield. That is what his problem has been, to nail a place down the team have to be set up for him to do what he does as a special-ist, almost. He can lose a ball and doesn’t look quick or strong enough to get back. He seems something nearer a 10, not a full 10, he picks the ball up moving through the opposition midfield. To a team wanting the attribute, which floods midfield he would be worth a lot.
Put Anderson in our CM and it gives a lease of life, yet I see Mainoo as the third in a central 3, almost point in a diamond, rather than a straight CM. He is a refined special-ist, moves well but the midfield has to be designed around him and that’s the issue. We desperately need a dominant CM, perhaps 2 and Mainoo would be fighting it out with the other 10’s unless we go 3CM which hasn’t been the United way, although if SAF had done that in the EC finals v Barcelona we would have done better. Mainoo is a conundrum.
16.) 04 Feb 2026 12:54:03
Not sure what you lads are watching Dio or red man. I see a CM that is more than capable of controlling ball when he has it, if you put another Cm capable of the same stuff, we will have a lot more possession.
I mean you're saying that about Mainoo red man and then telling me about Anderson, a CM in a Forest team that is near the relegation zone. He's not dominating or controlling games.
Mainoo, quite easily should be one of the first names down on the team sheet. He plays through lines, a lot of balls around players and driving, something an awful lot of CMs can't even comprehend.
Or do we want a Declan Rice type who is conservative as you get, playing sideways and back passes all the time. Kobbie is a boy that takes risks and plays progressive football. Give me that all day and stick another ball playing CM beside him. When he was starting in major tournaments for England, he showed us all exactly how good he is, at 18, I hasten to add.
But red man, you do know your CMs, i mean give me your take on Bruno ? he would've been sold by now, given your footballing opinion on how he plays.
17.) 04 Feb 2026 14:55:05
I see what dio is saying and agree to a large extent. Mainoo has a way to go to get back to where he was and to push on. He couldn't have a much better player to emulate than Carrick, that's for sure.
18.) 04 Feb 2026 16:13:52
Mainoo is a decent player, not a great player…. looks better when Cass is in there too next to him.
Would we buy him or want him if he were at another team. I don’t think so.
Yes he got in England team but then so do lots of others never to be seen again and why is getting in an England team that’s won nothing a benchmark anyway!
Yes he does a job, should he be first on team sheet or build a team around…not a chance.
19.) 04 Feb 2026 17:52:02
Maze, I love the fact you complain about all our players being rubbish, but then claim we can't buy better players anyway. What's the point, then?
20.) 04 Feb 2026 17:55:46
Agree, Angel. Kobe's been one of the only midfielders we've had since our heyday who can take a pass on the turn and look to move it forward.
He hasn't been at his best recently, but he's young and still finding his feet again after not getting much game time. I've no worries about him, especially with Carrick and his team there to guide him.
21.) 04 Feb 2026 21:06:50
AJH it may have come across has harsh but that's what I see. A player with potential but i'm unsure what he excels in. He's okay at most things but not the best at anything a center mid does. Still improving and is young so he can develop i just think if he was playing for anyone else would we all be scrambling to sign him.
I'm not so sure. I think personally we could buy 2 better cms than him and we won't and it will cost us later on. I'd prefer him to be back up to 2 truly great cms and see if he can play his way into the side.
22.) 04 Feb 2026 22:43:10
angel
Yes been watching CMs since the 60’s. Do you now think Bruno is a CM?
At some point reality has to dawn to you on a 31 year old whose position has been updated by MBueno and Cunha, he only has so long. When, in summer, he asks for £400k a week to stay, the emotional fans will beg for the club to give it him. It’s why the club keeps getting in a mess, too many emotional decisions.
Lastly angel, you mention Anderson in the Forrest team, were you around when we bought Keane from them, is my memory going or were they relegated that season? Anderson may not be Keane but your dismissal of him to me shows your lack of appreciation of CM players.
23.) 05 Feb 2026 08:25:51
Good post, Red Man.
24.) 05 Feb 2026 08:52:52
It's the double standards, looking to Anderson as the answer whilst appreciating the genuine talent that we have in Kobbie. I'm just trying to make a point. It's in no way a dismissal of Anderson, I really think he is going to be a top player and would love to see him here along with Wharton.
It's your dismissal of Kobbie that is baffling, you say one thing about him and another about Anderson, the double standards. Kobbie is 19, and he has stood head and shoulders above players within games yet you think he's a conundrum ?
And your dismissal of Bruno even more so. You've been banging on the Bruno drum for about 2 years now, whatever your agenda is with him. The fact he gets paid lots of money? Is he holding anyone back? Is he not contributing to the team? If we sell him, like you want? (A reminder that you said sell him in January by the way. ) Who do we get?
His position has been updated by Cunha and Mbuemo? Are we watching the same games?
You can tell me you've been watching football for 20 years more than me Red Man, but that doesn't make you more knowledgeable on the subject of CMs.
25.) 05 Feb 2026 09:00:04
Sorry Kobbie is 20.
It's mad, people on here have drunk the Ruben Amorim Kool-Aid and formed an opinion that Mainoos a conundrum, maybe a 10, a decent player etc.
Kobbie is a top boy, hadn't started since August, then has 3 starts V City, Arsenal and Fulham, 9 points. Was crucial with some of his defensive contributions and assisted Dorgu, all be it a worldie.
20 years of age! Keane was just 22 signing for United, Elliot Anderson is 23. Kobbie has already started a major European final for England at 19.
Put down the Amorim Kool-Aid lads, he's gone.
26.) 05 Feb 2026 10:36:09
So, substitute 32% with Amorim Kool-Aid as the go-to.
Speshull. ?.
27.) 05 Feb 2026 11:02:32
There he is, not engaging ???.
26 Jan 2026 20:13:22
Does anyone (posters or eds) know if we have a buy back clause for James Garner?
Hes really come into his own this season and some of his metrics are up there with elliot anderson who is going to be a lot of teams first choice target in summer.
Especially losing Casemiro and potentially Ugarte, we could be in need of 2/3 midfielders in the summer.
1.) 26 Jan 2026 20:57:04
He has just agreed a new contract at Everton.
18 Jan 2026 10:27:18
Best premier league performance I've seen since we beat Tottenham under ETH in 22/23 season.
We won the game on both expected goals and more importantly actual goals.
Important context is having the Afcon duo back (Amad and Bryan) which was a huge blow for Ruben and having two experienced centre backs (especially Martinez which was a huge blow for ETH) .
01 Jan 2026 14:24:54
Enzo Maresca sacked by Chelsea, Berrada and Wilcox both worked with him at city and they like bringing in staff that previously worked with them at City.
Could be a go as a politically safe way of letting Amorim go for Berrada and Wilcox without them looking incompetent.
1.) 01 Jan 2026 15:19:16
Out of the frying pan into the fire springs to mind.
2.) 01 Jan 2026 16:20:49
Amorim is going nowhere, whether that’s good or bad depends on who you’re talking too.
3.) 01 Jan 2026 17:18:26
Maresca should be nowhere Utd. Ask most Chelsea fans and they are baffled by his tactics. They have got some top players and he constantly misuses them.
I want RA to succeed but if he is to be replaced get the Palace manager.
4.) 01 Jan 2026 18:15:50
Salford, that might very well be what happens.
5.) 02 Jan 2026 08:48:18
Are we looking for a new manager?
6.) 02 Jan 2026 09:07:17
Lets all be realistic maresca or glasner aren't the solution to our problems both are poor managers I know many on here won't agree but it's the truth.
7.) 02 Jan 2026 10:45:51
John,
What exactly are you seeing that makes Glasner a ‘poor manager’? He won the FA cup with Crystal Palace, he’s done an absolutely brilliant job there improving a number of players.
8.) 02 Jan 2026 11:09:21
I just don't see the hype gds2 his palace team have never impressed me maybe that's just me. I'd love to hear ed001 thoughts on glasner because I think he had reservations too.
{Ed001's Note - not a fan at all. Even putting aside him as a person and constantly having to jump ship as he burns bridges behind him, as a coach he plays awful football. He is a new Moyes.}
9.) 02 Jan 2026 12:47:59
I would take Mr Tumble over Amorim.
10.) 02 Jan 2026 17:13:15
Similar to Tuchel, Ed?
{Ed001's Note - yes.}
11.) 02 Jan 2026 17:32:36
I certainly wasn’t saying I want him, we have a manager that I’m happy to keep, but he’s clearly doing a good job at Palace. That might be his level I guess, but a poor manager doesn’t win the FA cup with Crystal Palace.
12.) 02 Jan 2026 17:48:22
I’d esather keep Amorim.
13 Mar 2026 09:08:58
Considering our best CM is leaving in the summer, bringing anyone in so that Ugarte doesn't play would add something to the team.
03 Mar 2026 09:37:09
Would be the ideal choice to replace Casemiro. Have checked his stats and, for a midfield player, he's got a fair few goals and assists for Newcastle and is a real leader for them.
I just can't see them selling their captain, and if they need money, I would assume players like Tonali/Gordon would be above Bruno G in the list to raise funds.
12 Feb 2026 10:08:30
Would like to see Di Zerbi and Frank back in the premier league soon as their Brighton and Brentford sides were excellent performers for their respective budgets.
For the Dyche, the championship beckons if he wants to get back into work.
09 Feb 2026 13:19:04
We should if he is available but think he wants to return back to Italy.
05 Jan 2026 13:38:50
Can only imagine that would go down swell with the rest of Ingerland if Tuchel took some time off preparing for the world cup to take charge of Manchester United on an interim basis lol.
20 Mar 2026 08:05:37
I mean, because Casemiro is leaving, we need someone who can come in and hit the ground running. We cant afford to have someone take 6 months to settle and get going, by that time we could be knocked out of the Champions League (assuming we get in).
So for the primary midfield signing, I dont think age, especially 28/29, is an issue.
Then, the backups for that signing and mainoo, then yes, more room for a younger signing with potential and time to settle in.
18 Mar 2026 20:44:32
If you offered me that squad to start next season I would take it just about.
18 Mar 2026 07:21:00
Brahim Diaz for Ballon d'Or!
Make them play again, I say.
13 Mar 2026 09:08:08
I mean, apart from his first season with us, Martinez has missed more games than he has played. Obviously a quality player, but relying on him over a full season is foolish.
You only have to go back two seasons, and Jonny Evans was our starting centre back.
He was originally brought back in to train with the team and spend more time with his wife. That is not how a top football club should be run, imo.
12 Mar 2026 11:31:22
Rightly so, Mount is not even part of the discussion.
What an absolute shower of a signing it has been. Overpaid, never fit, and the enormous opportunity cost of not signing an actual centre mid that summer puts it down as one of the worst signings in the club's history, imo.