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27 Jul 2020 10:12:15
Does jack grealish helping villa stay up make it easier or harder for a deal to be done to sign him up?

DSG

{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference.}


 

 

29 Jun 2019 17:16:16
Rashford close to signing a new deal.

Great news.

DSG

1.) 29 Jun 2019 18:07:02
Yeh fantastic.


2.) 29 Jun 2019 18:58:18
Good news he’s committing to a new deal altho if reported figures are true i'm not sure why he would get 250k a week plus at his age where do you go from there. Another massive contract for a young player that needs to prove he's worth half that. I guess i'm just a old f****r and despise the over paid nature of these young lads who have done nothing within the game. Personally if have said score 30+ goals this season we can talk about a wage increase.


3.) 29 Jun 2019 19:12:09
Who knows if that reported figure is true and who cares how we personally feel about how much he earns. The key point is that its all relative.

If sanchez is on what he's reported to be on then rashford has every claim to earn as much as he can. he's done more for this club in the 10 games he played under lvg than sanchez has ever done for us.

Martial and shaw just got new contracts and i assume a pay rise, rashford deserves it more than them.

Most posters on here in the last third of the season becried the lack of players who put the required effort in and have the desire to improve themselves. Rashford has both those qualities as well as technical abilities that few in his age range can match.


4.) 29 Jun 2019 19:34:56
Shouldn’t be on three times what Wan-Bissaka has paid. He’s equally as unproven over a sustained period of time.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 20:03:17
Great news if true he has every chance of being the focal point of this new young team we are building.


6.) 30 Jun 2019 09:59:16
This is clearly nonsense. It’s all gone to his head and he is holding the club to ransom for £300K a week isn’t he?


 

 

08 Jun 2019 12:13:05
A few reports coming out now that united are getting frustrated and are surprised by the fees involved in signing british young players.

Have they been living under a rock for the past 6 or 16 years?

I completely understand that they have certain valuations for players and if they are quoted over that then they should back away in most circumstances and move on to other targets.

But prices for young british homegrown players have always been at a premium whether its rio ferdiand, andy carroll or kyle walker and i would be baffled if this was surprising them.

DSG

1.) 08 Jun 2019 13:07:43
There’s no doubt a Manchester United tax is added to the value of any player we approach.

Daniel James being the perfect example. We are paying twice the fee Leeds were quoted only four months ago.


2.) 09 Jun 2019 02:52:55
Rooney Rio Andy Carroll sterling Walker

The list goes on homegrown cost a hell of a lot more.


3.) 09 Jun 2019 08:28:29
Except Rooney and Rio were worth every penny for our club!


4.) 09 Jun 2019 09:38:35
Very true Eric. As is Sterling for City.

Imagine what Scholes would be worth today 🤔.


5.) 09 Jun 2019 12:36:56
AT Wazza finally someone who really rates Scholes as high as me, if we had a player like Scholes in our current squad our defense wouldn't be as exposed as it has been the past years, he is what i would call MAESTRO. one of those players that don't get recognize in England but are truly hard to find.


6.) 09 Jun 2019 15:22:58
Remanutd he’s exactly the type of player we need. You see Rashford making so many runs but the ball moves sideways.

I remember a game we were losing, playing badly and Scholes was brought on. It was the end of his career. But he collected the ball four times and each time he passed the ball forward. He was so aggressive with his passing, fast and direct.


 

 

01 Apr 2019 13:13:09
So duncan castles reporting that herrera is off to psg.

Does anyone agree to the clubs stance not to fold to his wage demands?

Who does that leave as our second best midfielder at the club? Michael carrick?

DSG

1.) 01 Apr 2019 13:37:08
I agree with this stance but the club also need to stop giving into demands of someone like Sanchez who's on double what Herrera wants.


2.) 01 Apr 2019 14:11:32
Is that his wages freed up to pay DDG what he wants?


3.) 01 Apr 2019 14:33:48
I agree. We need to commit 30m plus for a squad player approaching 30. Nah. Rock on free up the wages for a better player.


4.) 01 Apr 2019 15:03:43
Ken why let herrera go the likely scenario would be we would have to spend minimum of 50m to replace him with inflated fees. Plus wages on top there's plenty on more than him that should be shown the door before him. can't fathom how jones got a new deal and herrera didnt.


5.) 01 Apr 2019 15:12:01
why are we giving the likes of Jones and young new contracts but herrera letting go.

ddg still has another season but still its a joke. you keep your best players.

other than arsenal who have also a reputation to losing players this doesn't happen anywhere else.


6.) 01 Apr 2019 15:32:14
We aren't 'letting him go', this great player who everyone loves and loves the club is holding us to ransom over his wages, he isn't half as good as he thinks he is and could easily be replaced. Thanks for the good times Ander, but you are never going to be in a premier league winning first team.


7.) 01 Apr 2019 16:07:54
so is DDG holding us to ransom?


8.) 01 Apr 2019 16:10:47
I'm in two minds. Its a lot of money for a 30 year old that could be better spent. But then its another signing we'll need to make to replace him which maybe lessons what we can commit on other signings.


9.) 01 Apr 2019 16:29:40
Reports saying Utd won't offer more than £170k pw. Probably £50k too much being offered already for me.


10.) 01 Apr 2019 16:51:19
I agree with the club on this one. 170k a week sounds more than reasonable. If ander wants more that's his perogative.


11.) 01 Apr 2019 17:56:24
Bolger,

Yes, but he’s our best player and we would struggle to replace him with someone of the same quality so he will probably get what he wants, I don’t think anyone is under any illusion that De Gea hasn’t already tried to leave once, he’s just bloody good so we let him off.


12.) 01 Apr 2019 20:23:13
Why would PSG want him Rabiot cannot make there side he’s about 2 levels above Herrera,


13.) 01 Apr 2019 20:31:26
Jamie79
They maybe see something you don't?


14.) 02 Apr 2019 04:32:02
So just out of curiosity, who would you guys replace Herrera with who is an improvement and who also will cost less than 200k a week in wages?


15.) 02 Apr 2019 05:51:26
Personally I would break the bank for Saul Niguez.
He can take the midfield as well as the whole team to next level.
He can pick intricate forward passes like Pogba. Does excellent work off the ball.
And he is just 24. Well worth the investment.

{Ed001's Note - and he can cover almost every position on the pitch as well. I do not understand why no one has already broken the bank for him. It is not like he has just emerged, I can remember suggesting him as one of the players I would want Liverpool to sign when he was 17. So he has been about and looking top class for a long time.}


16.) 02 Apr 2019 06:36:31
Agree Ed. Not many consistent top quality midfielders around.
There are rumours linking him to City which is a real worry.


17.) 02 Apr 2019 13:34:18
Herrera is one of our better players, and there is no chance we will get a replacement of the same standard on less than 200k wages plus a hefty transfer fee. We can't afford to not give him the contract he wants, as doing so will cost us more than giving it to him.


18.) 02 Apr 2019 13:42:40
There is no point in giving 200k wage for a 29 year old who can pass only side ways. He may not even be a regular in the coming seasons.
And then we have problems with salary cap out.
So overall, it is a huge risk.
If we continue this, Next Smalling will ask for 200k a week contract.


19.) 02 Apr 2019 23:31:43
Who know. people who worry for extra expenses needed to replace him, need to think may be if Rabiot coming our way in free. in our wage budget? None of us know. But if Ole is taking this decision, then he must have calculated this. Now we can expect 2 new CM to come in.


20.) 02 Apr 2019 23:40:58
Completely agreed ed1. The worst decision Ed wayward has made in my view is cancelling the transfer plans in the winter window before LVGs sacking. We were meant to have a meeting with Atleti with regards to Saul. For me Saul is the best all round CM in the world. If not for Kante, Saul would be the best midfielder IMO.


 

 

20 Jan 2019 16:47:59
According to report, we have triggered the year option in darmians contract, he will go to juventus on a lon with an option to buy.

I assume that valencia has enough fitness to see this season out then leave on a free in the summer.

Young will probably get an extension leaving dalot shaw young and fosu mensah as our full back options next season unless we bring someone in.

DSG

1.) 20 Jan 2019 18:02:33
Tfm will not be in our squad next season as a full back option. If ww don't bring a full back in i expect the 4 would be mitchell shaw young and dalot.
Interesting that he cose to play dalot on the left yesterday when shaw fell ill instead of young.
It shows that both young and shaw can play either side adequately.


2.) 20 Jan 2019 21:59:14
Not good enough options in my opinion. Shaw is playing better, I'm happy with him as my first choice atm, with young and depot as cover. We need a top class rb because we have nothing down the right. I like depot but not sure if he's ready to be first choice just yet. We could do with someone who's about 29-30 in their prime for a couple of years till dalot is ready. That and a top centre back and we'd have a good foundation to build from.


3.) 21 Jan 2019 06:06:29
Shaw and young for LB. Dalot and a top right back at peak for RB.


4.) 21 Jan 2019 06:26:16
Wan Bissaka.


5.) 21 Jan 2019 11:38:07
I would like to see us go for Milenkovic to play at RB with Dalot as cover. He's young but can also play central. I would also love us to see if Mbappe can be prised away from PSG given their financial woes. Imagine a front three of Rashford, Martial and Mbappe!


6.) 21 Jan 2019 12:29:49
I woyld rather we brought in a RB and a LB. Mitchell is not good enough - offer money for Kieran Tierney and that's LB sorted, he has the potential to be the best LB in UK. At RB we need someone who is ready to go, Perreira would be my choice but I am sure there are plenty options.


 

 

 

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22 Oct 2020 14:56:51
Troy Deeney on Fred:

"I think Fred, whenever you play against him, we certainly did it, you let him get it [the ball] as he has to take three or four touches, " "He doesn't know how to take one or two touches.

"Anyone who watches his game will notice he gets it [the ball] facing the wrong way, turns, turns, chops and gives you the ball.

"It is the truth. If anyone studies football you will know that. When they are sat in and they are waiting, you know that there is one person is the trigger, and it is him. "

I think deeney is spot on here, Fred is very good without the ball, pressing the ball, covering ground, winning the ball back. It explains why he performs so well when we sit back and play on the counter attack.

Can he learn to control a football properly and play one/ two touch? If so he could solve our missing piece in holding midfield and take over from the ageing matic.

DSG

1.) 22 Oct 2020 15:23:40
Ed001 spotted this problem about Fred and pointed it out almost 2 years ago on this page. Kudos Ed!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I am not surprised he is used as the trigger for a press, I would certainly have recommended that the first time I saw him play.}


2.) 22 Oct 2020 15:55:41
Fred is like a 12 year old in an under 10 team. Can be smart and play the right ball, but knows that he has 10 more seconds against the opposition.


3.) 22 Oct 2020 15:49:47
Could i be greedy and ask for a match review for the PSG United game Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I didn't watch it mate, or I would happily do one. I was busy doing the news review at the time as we were supposed to be recording the podcast later but then the podcast got delayed anyway.}


4.) 22 Oct 2020 21:49:33
Deeney is right but I don’t know why he needs to come out with it while he’s still playing himself.


5.) 23 Oct 2020 00:11:51
fred just needs to say i play in the prem. were are you now and then show him his brazillian.


 

 

09 Oct 2020 18:01:57
Next united game away at newcastle to be on sky sports box office for £15 quid pay per view.

Initially though this was sky and bt being greedy but the money is actually going back into the clubs coffers (not sure what the split) as part of trying claw back some revenue that's been lost from gate receipts.

Thoughts, eds or posters, i don't see this going down well with supporters espically with what are going to be tough economic times and restrictions still in place.

Surprised united didn't think of this sooner, could have afforded the sancho deal if we all chipped in 😂.

DSG

{Ed025's Note - i think its disgusting DSG, we have gone though austerity and now covid has hit the ordinary joe,s coffers, people are being made redundant all over the place and lots of people have had their hours cut, not the time for me to be stinging them for more, a lot are already paying for subscription tv in the form of sly or BT and now they want more, if they made it a fiver then it would still be wrong but i imagine affordable for most mate..


1.) 09 Oct 2020 18:35:37
It’s a joke. The clubs are paying players 100’s of thousands a week yet, fans who are losing jobs or pay have to fork out extra money on top of what we already pay on subscriptions is so out of touch with reality.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely caolan..


2.) 09 Oct 2020 18:52:31
I would like to think if I was a footballer on 100k per week I would be giving up 10% each week to a charity . i'd still keep the Bentley and the topless models but got to give something back. Clubs, agents, players could really earn some brownie points now by publicly stating some of their money was going into the lower leagues, food banks etc etc . if people are at home now 4 games on a weekend costs 60 quid? shooting themselves in the foot, its ripping folk off.


3.) 09 Oct 2020 18:56:08
Is it a game that wouldn't normally of been on TV.


4.) 09 Oct 2020 19:13:59
Yh jred, the 5 games that usually wouldn't have been on tv i think.


5.) 09 Oct 2020 19:17:00
May as well cancel my sly subscription if this is the way forward. Back to streaming I go.


6.) 09 Oct 2020 19:17:02
It’s for the non contracted TV games isn’t it?! Eg Sky don’t show any Saturday 3pm games so you can pay extra for those. Their argument will be that you never had any opportunity to see these games live before (illegal streams apart) and they are offering you that if you wish to pay. The whole tv rights is a joke you’d need a subscription to sky sports, bt sports and Amazon to view all premier league games that’s roughly £50 a month on top of the normal fees, unless on a deal.


7.) 09 Oct 2020 19:22:59
Jred there’s 5 games that they hadn’t put on a tv slot so they’ve started this pay per view rubbish. The claim is the money is to be reinvested. I’m not sure if that’s further down the pyramid, but if they want to do something how about the clubs giving something, or the players coming together.


8.) 09 Oct 2020 19:30:59
Just popped into my head that maybe they will let us pay for the United games in 5 x £2 instalments, with the other £4.95 only payable if we win the league 🤣.


9.) 09 Oct 2020 19:41:03
It’s so out of touch.

Footballers are paid literally hundreds of thousands of pounds per week.

I’ve been considering cancelling Sky recently due to their political underbelly, this could be the nail in the coffin for my subscription.


10.) 09 Oct 2020 19:43:47
If its for games outside the normal TV package, I don't really see the problem .

{Ed025's Note - the problem is jred that people are paying vast sums as it is with sly and BT to watch football mate, its just greed..


11.) 09 Oct 2020 20:09:23
Jred, all games have been televised since lockdown.

This is pure greed.

I pay £80 p/ m to Sky, some people pay over £100.

The do this and say the money goes to clubs is ridiculous.

What they should have done is televised Championship, L1 and L2 for a nominal fee, with all profits going to the clubs that actually need it.

To do it for premier league clubs just shows how out of touch Sky are with their customers.


12.) 09 Oct 2020 20:30:17
The worry is, that it’s a success and Sky, bt etc adopt the same strategy for more and more games moving forward. It wouldn’t shock me if that’s something they did.


13.) 09 Oct 2020 21:04:53
Wazza I pay over 100 for sky myself but I get what I pay for x amount of games a year .
If these are additional games outside the TV deal surely there going to cost money?
Is this not the clubs making money in the absence of match going fans

Ed25 people are paying vast sums but their not getting anything less for what they paid for at the start of the season .

On a different note if you paid a couple of billion for football rights, woukd you be happy if people could then watch a game for free .
Unfortunately I think this is the future can you imagine how much a team like united could make from ppv every game.

{Ed025's Note - and what will they do with the money jred?, pay higher fees for players, give bigger bungs to their agents, or pay the shareholders higher dividends? i think its obscene mate, people are using food banks and choosing whether to heat or eat not to mention all the homeless which will rise significantly, i dont think that in these times of adversity i think its classless..


14.) 09 Oct 2020 21:25:34
Im with Jred.

These games weren't to be shown on live tv and now u atleast get a chance to watch it but the 15 pound per game is taking the piss.

If it was a fiver like someone mentioned then that will be bearable.

Its not like their forcing you to pay 15 quid per game and i think only the stupid/ hardcore or rich fans will do it.


15.) 09 Oct 2020 21:36:07
I'm with the Ed, encouraging people who have been thru a lot financially recently to not only pay for overpriced subscriptions i'm sure many already are, but to also pay more for games on box office, as disgusting as it gets for me. Its a rip off the subscriptions cost as it is tbh but we all put up with it to watch. Tbh I'm rapidly losing interest in watching football in general, Newcastle v Man Utd £15, a joke.


16.) 09 Oct 2020 21:40:32
Ed25 you are absolutely right and I couldn’t put it better myself.

This move is incredibly out of touch. 2020 has been a step back in terms of extreme poverty and here we have billionaires trying to take more money from the working class. Closer to home, the chancellor has just this week told tens of thousands of people, who work in arts and media, to learn a new trade.

You are spot on in saying where the money will end up. The system is designed to keep rich people rich.

And if Premier League clubs are struggling, maybe their employees should help them out by agreeing to a pay cut.

I had to do that myself in 2008 to delay redundancies during a recession, when thousands lost their job. And we don’t earn in years what some footballers earn in one single week.

You can always spot the greedy billionaires in a time of need, because they put their hand out and ask for more.

{Ed025's Note - i wish we were wrong wassa but were not mate, avarice is alive and kicking especially in the world of football and its those at the bottom of the scale who will end up losing out...and they need it the most..


17.) 09 Oct 2020 21:52:13
after what we have seen of united up to yet welsh they should be paying me to watch.

{Ed025's Note - love it daz..


18.) 09 Oct 2020 22:50:54
Simple lads. Just don’t pay it. Job done. Football is so out of touch - pushes me away from the game every week, especially combined with the turgid nonsense we’ve been served in the form of “entertainment” for years as well as the type of human beings who run our club. Almost, very nearly, had a stomach full of this crap. Not that it’ll change anything.


19.) 10 Oct 2020 00:52:21
I have read this thread with interest and whilst I understand the points of view, I reply only to offer a single thought. If you don't like it, don't pay it - it's that simple. This is a package on top of what is already offered and - I guess - aimed at match-goers that want to watch their team live even if they aren't features in one of the games featured for live TV. Some people will lap this up but anyone interested in this has three choices. A. Stump up. B. Miss out. C. Find another way. I am not trying to be a so and so here and don't wish to cause offense. As it happens, I have been in camp C for several years now and like to think that if more of you walk it like you talk it things will change, for no other reason than they have to because the "customer" has made their feelings clear with their wallets. The more people that simply up their monthly subscription to get on board with these sorts of things, the more they will continue and the harder Marcus will have to work for his knighthood to fix poverty. Peace out.


20.) 10 Oct 2020 06:52:59
I agree with the notion of don’t pay it, and I won’t be paying for it. It will just push more people to streaming.

It doesn’t stop us having a discussion about it. After all that’s what this site is for.


21.) 09 Oct 2020 23:47:31
what i am seeing at the moment ed25 jose would have been dragged from pillar to post. as regards money for ppv if it went to clubs going under like maccasfield for the price of a couple of prem players weekly wages you might not like it but its better than going into some rich twats pocket i thought that is were grass roots starts.

{Ed025's Note - as in life daz the rich are going to get richer and the poor poorer, the teams like macclesfield will go to the wall and the bottom 2 tiers of english football will eventually become semi professional, it would be nice if the top clubs could sponsor the lower sides and help them out financially but i just cant see it im afraid mate..


22.) 10 Oct 2020 07:03:11
Here in sweden there is a service that costs less than 35 quid a month to stream all epl games. Some may not be live but you get access to them on the day. This service also comes with tv, some films and an array of other sports/ football leagues.

The cost of services in the uk is obscene and completely unjustified. Especially as the numbers in poverty keep growing.

Im afraid that if the ppv is deemed successful, then that's the way tv deals will be structured in the future.


23.) 10 Oct 2020 09:02:12
When the stadiums open it will be more for a ticket than the 15 ppv .
Should people not pay that either?

Of course football is out of touch it has been for years and people where struggling before C.V.
Its obscene what footballers get paid regardless of a 15 ppv game .

{Ed047's Note - and therein lies the answer to this question.

Fans that often cannot get to games pay Sly and or BT to watch football.

Match going fans would pay way more than £15 to physically go to a game so despite the conditions under which we live are they not making this a much cheaper option for those that don’t subscribe, your normally match going supporter.

Is it then those that do subscribe simply saying F you I’m not paying beyond my x amount of money for games I wouldn’t see under my subscription.


24.) 10 Oct 2020 09:33:28
47 yer that pretty much it.

{Ed047's Note - it’s the other side of the coin jred, can’t argue about the money men making themselves richer but for some they will see this as a good deal, to watch the clubs they love for something that would normally cost 5 or 6 times more.


25.) 10 Oct 2020 09:35:30
At a time the government want people not to gather or enter other peoples homes maybe pay per view is not a great idea .

The temptation for people is then gather and split the bill which is the exact opposite of what the government is seeking to achieve .

{Ed047's Note - I’m not a fan of any government Slate but I think who ever was making these decisions would find themselves damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

As I said to jred, I’d like to think there is help in there somewhere, basically for those that don’t subscribe but would normally pay way above and beyond £15 to go to a game and I think they way outnumber those who subscribe.


26.) 10 Oct 2020 09:55:49
You can’t draw comparisons to paying to watch on TV as opposed to the whole match day experience live. Not even close. I still recall the first time I went to watch Utd with my Dad and walking up the steps to see the pitch. The smells, sounds, cold etc. Pure brilliance.


27.) 10 Oct 2020 09:55:12
Ed 47 I just feel the game is between two sides with high C.V. rates in their areas and both areas are having difficulties already making people follow C.V. rules about gathering .

Now there's a financial incentive to gather to pay less money by splitting the fee for the cost of the match, this happens with all the big boxing fights and it's something which although is wrong in current circumstances, it is also inevitable .

{Ed047's Note - I know slate, I’m not disagreeing and everything surrounding COVID has been about the individual following simple guidelines.

Everyone of us knows how to avoid it but so many want to muddy and confuse that and that’s why it’s going nowhere fast mate.


28.) 10 Oct 2020 10:31:14
Supply and demand, basic principle. The games were not going to be broadcast live, so instead of people trying and buying Greek Sky cards or whatever they do these days, they are putting it on PPV. I imagine the 50,000 geordies who aren’t paying for the match ticket and the United away fans may think it’s the best they can do. I guess clubs are not getting match day income and this may be a substitute. I am not against it, but as per my opening words it is supply and demand, you can’t see it live unless you pay for it and they know there will be a demand. My problem is the price. Looks to me like they have gone to the greedy end of the price, £15 and that is the issue. It is also foolish, if it had been reasonably priced far more would have watched. Is it better to sell 1M at £5 or 100,000 at £15? The Broadcasters also could have used it to sell the product, entice more into their packages but no they go for £15. I am torn, don’t really want to shell out £15, but if it’s on it’s tough not to. However, if extra money goes to the owners and not subscribing squeezes them in any way, I won’t watch. The principle is ok, given they are not scheduled for broadcast, the price is a rip off and that is my issue. I won’t pay for the big boxing in the same way.


29.) 10 Oct 2020 10:45:25
What we keep forgetting is this is a business and a profit oriented at that. If fans want to make a statement, they should just boycott sky for some time.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the Government or with Sky or other broadcasters. It was a decision taken by a majority of Premier League clubs and the broadcasters were asked to facilitate it.}


 

 

21 Sep 2020 12:21:52
Two questions:

1.) what are the actual expectations for the season? probably because we only ended the previous season last month and had a non existent pre season this wasnt discussed much.

We came third last season with 66 points, realistically we are not going to get near liverpool and city, so coming third with a higher points total is a realistic mark of improvement.

2.) Is Scott Mctominay actually a holding midfielder? To be honest i have never watched him and thought, yep he's a sitting midfielder. he's always struck me as a box to box midiflelder who is more useful attacking than defending. Not good enough positionally defensively and takes to many touches on the ball to be a dictating sort of midfielder.

DSG

1.) 21 Sep 2020 12:46:47
Get the players in to mount a title challenge or close to top 2 in the final months of the season.
Get to the 1/ 4 finals or better of CL.
Get to Final of FA cup

Any less than this with our expenditure would be a failure.


2.) 21 Sep 2020 12:52:19
Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton, Chelsea have all improved their first X1.

I honestly don't think we have improved our first XI.
Discouraging window so far.

Liverpool beat us by 30 points and have added a top class midfielder and added strength in depth for their attack.

I just don't see a plan or ambition from the club.

Top 4 would be an achievement with this squad.


3.) 21 Sep 2020 12:55:20
Scott is nowhere near good enough as a box to box, so I'm hoping he can learn the dm role as otherwise I don't see him getting much game time.


4.) 21 Sep 2020 13:05:42
Top 4 has to be the realistic expectation we can't achieve a title challenge anytime soon so becoming a consistent champions league club is a must.


5.) 21 Sep 2020 13:34:38
if things stand as they are, then the expectation is to get 70 points - a little more than last season, but that is what this squad of players will get you in the PL. Yes, our form from the back end of last season was good, but it can't be sustained in a shorter campaign with champions league foot ball to boot. The quality of sides around us has also gone up quite a bit.
Hopefully win a cup along the way as well.


6.) 21 Sep 2020 14:00:55
Expectations of this season could change dramatically depending on transfers.

Realistically it is an improvement on last season. 3rd, 66 points and 3 semifinals. I don't see us finishing above either Liverpool or City so third looks the highest we can realistically finish. However, an improvement on the 66 points total and maybe making it to at least one final would be an improvement.

However if we sign Sancho the expectations will unrealistically be elevated.

As for McTominay, he might with a little moulding become a holding midfielder. His best attributes are his stamina, running power and physicality. Which suit a more box to box role favouring a more defensive role. He does pop up with a few goals mind, so a little freedom wouldn't be a terrible idea with him. I think the thing that let's him down is his passing range which is a little limited. I think he could develop into a top player for us, he has the right mentality. It will come down to two factors. Firstly is what tactics are deployed as he doesn't really fit into a niche midfield role. Secondly, will be his ability to develop other areas of his game.


7.) 21 Sep 2020 14:02:59
Plus 20 points on last season
Cl run to 1/ 4 final
Win a cup
No chance of any of these with our current manager imo.


8.) 21 Sep 2020 14:25:31
i know ken he was such a failure last year in the cups, you can't expect ole with the same team to mount any challenge in any cups.


off with his head.


9.) 21 Sep 2020 14:42:33
No need to kill him bolger just fire him.
What cup did he win again?
We were not in the cl he didn't get us there so 1/ 4 in cl is a huge step up from a failed semi in the EL.
So yes nothing like last year big improvements reqired. I don't think he is capable.


10.) 21 Sep 2020 14:58:00
Bolger semi final defeats are failure. Or should we book an open top bus to parade our failed semi final trophies.


11.) 21 Sep 2020 15:33:14
We lost a game its hysterical 🤣 😂.


12.) 21 Sep 2020 15:57:25
1 step closer to the bullet. then we can become hysterical.

{Ed047's Note - you gotta love jred! 🤣


13.) 21 Sep 2020 16:07:28
Its absolutely comedy gold, nothing to do with footy really which is why most the eds and most the established posters are keeping out of it .
But a funny read non the less 😂.

{Ed047's Note - “nothing to do with footy” and “established posters”

Brilliant, right there is your comedy gold! 😂😂😂


14.) 21 Sep 2020 16:43:09
We would improve our first eleven immediately just by dropping Pogba and playing VDB in his place.


15.) 21 Sep 2020 16:54:38
Ed 100% its just ranting and stirring .

{Ed047's Note - where is the actual ranting and stirring jred, they are talking about their expectations, giving an opinion and answer to a genuine question.

You and Bolger then came in and stirred the pot. Because you didn’t like their answers. 🤷‍♂️


16.) 21 Sep 2020 17:16:04
ed47 😂😂of course because you agree with it its not a ranta, and of course your not stirring 😇😇😂😂
My personal favourite is just above, we will never finish in the top 4 with this manager 😂😂. We have just finished 3rd .
Honestly you managed to get rid of Deano yesterday you have more or less got rid of gds .
Who's next? I think you forget that some of these lads supported the site when it was struggling, donated for ed1 when he had issues.

{Ed047's Note - how did I manage to get rid of Deano and GDS, seriously jred you need to give your head a shake.

This is a banter site, if grown up human beings can’t cope with banter on a banter site, or people with a differing opinion about a club they all support, what on earth are they even doing here.

Do you want a separate page for everything is cool and groovy at United 🤷‍♂️

I don’t block or stop their posts, I don’t stop them having an opinion which is what you are trying to point out are rants to dig yourself out of talking yet another load of rubbish. 🤦‍♂️


17.) 21 Sep 2020 17:49:26
That's true bilko.


18.) 21 Sep 2020 17:50:45
Breath of fresh air some of the honesty. 😂😂😂.


19.) 21 Sep 2020 17:58:04
Ed047 don't rise it mate. Honestly not worth it.

At least some of us can actually have conversations about it all.

{Ed047's Note - i know mate, he just makes me laugh 🤦‍♂️🤣


20.) 21 Sep 2020 18:06:05
ed47 you get upset when people call you out,
It is just a banter site but some of these lads put there hands in their pocket to support it .
You give it out then hide behind i haven't done anything .
Your just a fan from another team on the wind up on the united page.

{Ed047's Note - seriously give it up you are now just becoming embarrassing trying to validate yourself because you contributed to the site.

This isn’t the only page on this site, you and a few others aren’t the only posters. 🤦‍♂️


21.) 21 Sep 2020 18:09:00
Think we can all ‘cope with banter’, that’s usually from posters on the site though not from editors who as I’ve said before used to be professional and respectful.

When it’s one person maybe it’s them that can’t take it, when you’re pissing off regular posters every single day perhaps need to have a look at your way of editing the site and have a think. I thought it was just me at first and I was being an idiot but when I read it back I realised what was happening. It’s a shame.

I’d suggest if you want to banter join the site as a poster and get involved, I think people just expect more respect from the editors as that’s what we have always had. I’m not upset or particularly bothered, just makes the experience of the site a bit strange when editors are making you feel stupid.

{Ed047's Note - if you want a page full of yes men and Ed’s that agree with you no matter what they see in plain site then genuinely it’s clearly not for you.

People sadly don’t have the same opinion as you no matter how much you want to give it to them.

When you read it back did you take the blinkers off or keep them firmly strapped on.

I say what I see, I certainly have no concerns whether you like that or not.


22.) 21 Sep 2020 18:11:03
I had a look on the arsenal site, ed47 your all about given arteta time waiting and seeing how the transfer window pans .
Then you come on here and just go fishing . You must have something better to do.

{Ed047's Note - because Arteta looks to have a plan and a system, I didn’t give Emery the time of day because he had neither much the same as OGS.

You really are getting desperately embarrassing now fella.


23.) 21 Sep 2020 19:16:17
ed47 not really infact I think your embarrassing your self trying to defend arteta who managed arsenal to was it 8th last season? Why taking every opportunity to call out a manager who finished 3rd .
And why? Because "arteta looks to have a plan"
Arteta has very little managerial experience infact I would say its difficult to make an argument for one over the other in regards to him and ole.
But your such a biased arsenal fan you can't even see that's what your doing .
Your are trying to defend a manager who finished 8th over a manager who finished 3rd .
A lot of what you are saying about ole could be directed at arteta . And yet you are constantly calling other people blinkered 😂
Gds makes a good point imo as did Deano and Singh yesterday, infact Singh summed it up very well. No other ed looks to cause such a toxic atmosphere.

{Ed047's Note - OMG 🤣🤣🤣 I’m sure you’ll be in Aus any day now.


24.) 21 Sep 2020 19:18:51
Ed47

"This isn’t the only page on this site, you and a few others aren’t the only posters"

No its not, and no they aren't but that doesn't change the fact that they put there hands in their pockets . And that's your attitude and your thanks?

{Ed047's Note - jred you have got to stop embarrassing yourself, do you think I myself didn’t contribute.

I don’t want thanks for it or some kind of justification or believe it makes me more credible than anyone else.

If I’ve upset 4 people across this site because I think OGS isn’t good enough for you, that you should go all out to get Nagelsmann, that you should sell Pogba, that Upamecano should be a priority, that spending a fortune on Sancho is a waste, that Shaw is poor or Bruno is great then I that is a decision for you and them fella, I truly don’t care.

But don’t waste my time and yours trying to make your opinion and those others the only credible ones on this site or make lame excuses that I’m an Arsenal fan so I must want pain and misery on you.


25.) 21 Sep 2020 20:00:48
Seems 47 has the hots for jred.

{Ed047's Note - he’s such fun mate and I’m not made of wood! 🤣🤣


26.) 21 Sep 2020 20:30:48
You’re totally missing the point if you think that’s why 4 people are ‘upset’, it’s more the lack of respect and calling people ‘blinkered’ who disagree with your biased opinion, basically if anyone is positive they are wrong and we are stupid for having an opinion but you continuously say we are out of order for not letting other people have an opinion.

God knows how many others have just not bothered because it’s pointless and you’re just made to feel stupid for disagreeing with someone who doesn’t even support the club but types in red.

Some of the things you say I totally agree with by the way, just the way you treat regular posters is unwarranted imo.

{Ed047's Note - GDS2, you are getting upset and calling me out for the exact things the 4 of you do.

You don’t like anyone having a negative opinion of anything to do with the club but that’s life and you have to accept it, that’s how a lot of United fans feel.

It’s also the manner in which you say it yourself, but you don’t see it, you want to point a finger at me because I don’t agree with your opinion.

If you are going to make comments, like you often make, loaded with sarcasm I’m going to repay you with the same and then you’ll moan about it.

I’ve never stopped you Deano or Singh posting unless It was like the time you told me to F Off, then obviously I’m going to give you some of the same.

So don’t try and paint yourselves as all innocent and hurt because you are not.

Ed01 has also put you straight a number of times because of your attitude.


27.) 21 Sep 2020 20:32:37
The first half of last year was really bad. Then when we bought Bruno things changed and improved. We played better football (although not very good for me and clearly not proactive enough) after the "Bruno effect" and the excuse for first half of the season was that we hadnt Bruno from the start and Pogba was injured.
Now we have Bruno, Pogba back and another AM in VDB. So the expectations must be high . Personally i would like to see a clearly good team, dominating games who seems ready to compete the year after. I want a team as good as her players are and even better. that's what a manager has to do.


28.) 21 Sep 2020 22:17:14
Ed,

For the final time, I am not hurt or upset, I am explaining the issue, I appreciate you’re never going to change and have made your mind up that everyone else is wrong about you and you aren’t doing anything wrong, not much anyone can do if that’s the case.

Ed001 put me straight a couple of times about 4 years ago, I get on with and appreciate Ed001 and everything he does for the site, like jred said, that’s why we put money in to save it, we just expect a bit of respect. There is enough negativity and people arguing on twitter and other social media, people come on here to chat to like minded united fans and have banter.

I fully understand how United fans feel, I feel the same as a lot of them, an Arsenal fan coming on here telling us how rubbish we are adds nothing imo. Just my opinion, which I’m allowed as you keep saying.

{Ed047's Note - There are so many things wrong at United but you can’t hack that and as you have done from day one, endeavoured to make out that anyone with that opinion is wrong, we all know it, you know it.

You get on with the select few who have the same opinion as you, the way you’ve spoken to posters was what earned you being chewed out by Ed01 so please don’t paint this poor innocent me crap.

I wasn’t the child that told you to F Off either, was I. All because you didn’t like a dose of what you hand out yourself.


29.) 22 Sep 2020 01:01:52
There's something seriously wrong when one of the most optimistic, civil posters on here, is deemed to have an attitude problem. You're obviously not in the cool gang, GDS.


 

 

14 Sep 2020 16:13:07
Rumoured alternatives for sancho are perisic, bale and douglas costa.

Do any of these player appeal to you or is it more of a none of the above option if you had to choose?

DSG

1.) 14 Sep 2020 16:52:07
None of the above, have Greenwood as a starter and shift Rashford to the right (he was a right winger to begin with) when needed, with James playing left in that case. Then maybe see if we bring in that young Stefanovic as competition to Greenwood for next season. And in this situation, bringing in a back-up forward would be a must, even if it is just Josh King.


2.) 14 Sep 2020 17:25:12
None of them, Let Greenwood be the starter there with James and Rashford as subs on that position when needed.


3.) 14 Sep 2020 17:56:05
I genuinely believe we’d be better off with Bale.
Getting him on loan should also allow us to then sign Reguilon and a CB permanently.


4.) 14 Sep 2020 18:43:12
I don’t want us to sign Bale, but if we did it’s possible that he would come to us with a major point to prove which could work in our favour. But that’s me being very optimistic. Can’t see it happening and I think that’s for the better.


5.) 14 Sep 2020 18:51:17
Getting Bale on loan, so that he can rotate with Greenwood is a great idea.

It would free up funds to get Reguilon and a top CB like Upamecano or Giminez.

Go for Sancho next year (Only if the club cannot afford under the current financial climate)


6.) 14 Sep 2020 20:06:59
None of the above, Persic is a left winger, Costa picks up too many injuries, and Bale just hasn't shown any desire to be a footballer in several years.

None are really suitable, and I don't think the club should look at short term options. Signing a player until Sancho is available next season is a terrible way forward. You either go for a different target, be that someone at a similar level or someone with potential and is a little rougher around the edges. Or you promote from within or adjust how the team plays.

I think whatever happens with Sancho we will need another body with class in that position. None of Lingard, Mata or Andreas Pereira are good enough. We can't play the whole season with only Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James as forward options (Ighalo is only here until January) .

We could look to play a midfield diamond shape with a split front two, then those 4 would be sufficient.

However, if Sancho isn't a possibility I think we should look at other options, be that Brooks, Neres, Mbeumo, Stengs or Tsygankov or anyone else. They should be young progressive players who could become a top play.


7.) 14 Sep 2020 20:28:53
Perisic for me.

We do need another wide player. The drop off to James and Mata is too big.


8.) 14 Sep 2020 20:48:29
Bale in a heartbeat.


 

 

07 Sep 2020 13:38:09
Greenwood kicked out of the england squad for breaching C.V. 19 quarantine rules.

What should the club do with him?

Given the furore and hysteria in march and april over project restart and the suggestion that we would have to live with the virus being ridiculed as wanting people to die.

Should he be sacked?

DSG

1.) 07 Sep 2020 13:50:19
Wow, that escalated quickly.


2.) 07 Sep 2020 13:57:52
He has been a silly boy by the looks of it, on his first England call up as well .


3.) 07 Sep 2020 14:00:12
Should clarify that i'm not calling for him to be sacked, but just emphasising the point that the response to this virus was an overreaction and the level of debate was very immature.

Just extending the logic that with this supremely deadly virus still around, should a draconian punishment be handed out to greenwood by the club for potentially endangering peoples lives?


4.) 07 Sep 2020 14:07:53
The response to the virus was an over reaction? How?


5.) 07 Sep 2020 14:10:52
Dont know all the facts yet-but on the face of it he has been a silly lad. More bad publicity. if true.
Take his age into consideration, Grealish didn't get sacked, nor the spurs players, or Man City players. needs his arse kicking by Ole - hopefully someone like Rashford -Matic -Mata can sit him down and try and spell it out to him how he has to conduct himself. -Maguire will get a bit of stick as well from the tabloids again. bad role model etc etc .

{Ed002's Note - They won't be able to sit him down for a couple of weeks.}


6.) 07 Sep 2020 14:14:30
Should we not wait until details emerge?
Doesn't look good either way for him it can't be that difficult to follow the squad rules.
It beggars belief that 2 young lads trying to make their way in the game would be so stupid.


7.) 07 Sep 2020 14:15:46
Not sure what he has actually done, also Phil Foden as well sent home. Talks of sacking totally ridiculous IMO.

Personal opinion is Internationals shouldn't be being played anyway at the present moment.


8.) 07 Sep 2020 14:17:14
Sacked? Seriously?

An 18 year old has made a stupid mistake which he will rightly be punished for by the FA. I would imagine United will fine him because he has brought shame on the club. Sacked, no.

It does not appear the virus is a “supremely deadly one” now, given hospital admissions and deaths but they are in no position to put anyone at risk. Jofra Archer broke the cricket bubble and was fined, I expect they will have the same and will learn from it.


9.) 07 Sep 2020 14:20:38
The kid is just following in the steps of the previous no 11's. Its the utd way dsg, best, giggs, martial and now Greenwood.


10.) 07 Sep 2020 14:36:33
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when our club captain has a talk with him about how he should be representing the club when he's away🤣.


11.) 07 Sep 2020 14:31:01
personally I think....deleted

{Ed047's Note - personally I think you are an absolute bellend! 🤦‍♂️


12.) 07 Sep 2020 14:35:29
He's been a silly boy, and he will have to learn from it. At 18 on his first international call up, the club will talk with him. He will likely miss the first game of the season now. Most young players do something stupid when they start getting fame and money. If this is the worst of it and he learns then it's not the worst thing in the world.


13.) 07 Sep 2020 14:38:23
Scoobydog.

I think the imposition by the uk government of mass lockdowns/ house arrest/ quarantines of both healthy and unhealthy people, considerable economic damage, huge disruption in childrens education, reduction in cancer screenings/ diagnoses and a statistical data querk of there being excess deaths at home coinciding with the governments “stay at home, protect the nhs” slogan was a massive overreaction and completely disproportionate to the real threat that c. v. 19 virus posed.

Again you may think that all of this was necessary to combat the virus, that is certainly a legitimate point of view but by extending that logic surely mason greenwood has been a very naughty boy and endangered peoples lives by breaching c. v. 19 secure protocols and a draconian punishment is in order.


14.) 07 Sep 2020 14:53:17
47,

Hope you aren’t abusing posters again, dear me.

DSG,

I think you’re bringing your opinions on C.V. 19 on to this forum which aren’t really needed, get that enough all over social media, and no, he won’t be sacked.

{Ed047's Note - I don’t imagine you’ll ever grow up son 🤦‍♂️


15.) 07 Sep 2020 14:54:30
All a bit early yet to get a handle on it . Southgate saying they didn't interact with any other squad members. only came too light this morning so not allowed to mix at breakfast, immediate action taken both sent home separately. asked if girls were in hotel Southgate said he hadn't got the facts but seems any contact wasn't around the hotel but outside of it . and he wasn't getting into any of that for now. fair enough.


16.) 07 Sep 2020 15:14:00
I hate all this C.V. 19 bull. We are allowed to sit within 1 meter of each other in a bar or restaurant wear a mask in a ship, walk past each other in the street, not go to stadiums. It's all too confusing.


17.) 07 Sep 2020 15:22:27
I don’t think the club really need to do anything. Being sent home after your first international call up is a much heftier punishment than anything the club is able to hand out. Hopefully he is able to learn from this.


18.) 07 Sep 2020 15:26:59
DSG I wonder if your opinion would be the same had you lost family members to CV? Given the world was pretty much locked down and some countries even now are increasing restrictions again on the back of rising R numbers doesn’t suggest an over reaction to me. But hey ho, some still believe the earth is flat. Go figure.


19.) 07 Sep 2020 16:06:39
Would love to know what Danno said 😂😂😂.


20.) 07 Sep 2020 16:08:43
47,

Haha there you go again, my post was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Son? 😂😂.

{Ed047's Note - so was mine 🤷‍♂️🤣


21.) 07 Sep 2020 16:10:02
FA have sent both home.
Both the boys should and must learn from the incident.


22.) 07 Sep 2020 15:54:38
Scoobydog, its a fair point but my gran did just pass away last week, she didn't die of CV but i don't agree that her death was any way less significant because it doesn't have CV on her deatb certificate, does that give my argument any more validity?

No because that would be a juvenile way of debating as is conflating the questioning of the severity of the C. V 19 lockdowns with flat earth theory. No one is saying the virus doesn't exist but rather are the restrictions in place proportionate to the threat from the virus.

The fact that countries are increasing restrictions again further emphasises my point that the response to the virus has been out of proportion.


23.) 07 Sep 2020 16:44:01
Like playing chess with a pigeon 🙄
Back to football.


24.) 07 Sep 2020 18:03:43
He's just a young lad, we were all chasing skirt at that age, it's just youthful exuberance, give the young lad a break, the same with Fodden.


25.) 07 Sep 2020 18:25:37
How does that logic work DSG?

Countries who imposed the same restrictions we did are now realising that they didn't go far enough, and you think that proves the initial response was an overreaction?

Logic suggests the opposite, that we underreacted.

{Ed047's Note - maybe DSG could volunteer to spend a week helping out in a COVID-19 ward.

Him and Danno.


26.) 07 Sep 2020 18:29:23
What was an 18 year old lad thinking going to meet up with some Icelandic model in a hotel room.


27.) 07 Sep 2020 19:13:17
Sacked 🤣🤣🤣.


28.) 07 Sep 2020 19:48:48
Thorne

Countries who imposed the same restrictions we did, did so earlier, likely too early and are now experiencing further notable cases.

Perhaps the curve is the curve no matter what you do. Countries went further than us, for example France, yet are experiencing notable cases. Sweden didn’t lock down.

We shouldn’t try to be experts, it’s a Novel virus with no clear answers. However, this is a football page, let’s talk football.


29.) 07 Sep 2020 20:07:25
I PERSONALLY THINK YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE. joy Ed047 lol😁😁😁.

{Ed047's Note - the feelings mutual Scholesy! 🤣😉


30.) 07 Sep 2020 22:39:27
Sweden hasn't done too bad.
Safe cars too.
I'm with DSG.


31.) 08 Sep 2020 00:32:02
magicsy come and tell me that when you have to watch a family member die on video link fighting to breath because you can not be there. like ed47 said go and work on the C.V. hospitals and then tell me your with dsg.


32.) 08 Sep 2020 06:38:18
I'm with dazw.


33.) 08 Sep 2020 07:45:15
What a shame! It's his first call up and it should have been a time for immense pride. I feel sorry for everyone concerned. I did innumerable stupid things when I was young so I'm not going to judge. Hopefully he learns from it and makes better decisions in future.


34.) 08 Sep 2020 08:01:37
He didn’t break the law, just FA rules.


 

 

 

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19 Oct 2020 19:25:53
Who plays centre back then?

Back 3 of awb, lindolf and shaw or

Axel to play his first game back away at psg?

Jones and rojo not included in the squad, which is still a good thing even with hardly any fit centre backs lol.

DSG

 

 

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16 Oct 2020 12:16:03
It worked pretty well last season post lockdown.

I can't think of a single player who has played well in the league for us this season.

DSG

 

 

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16 Oct 2020 11:19:35
“Pauls head is elsewhere, he has wanted to leave for the past 3 summers, didn't see eye to eye with previous manager like a lot of the squad. Paul is not focused on doing his best for us, i'm sure hell excel elsewhere in the next couple of years”.

Probably closer to the truth but ole is hardly gonma say that in his press conference.

DSG

 

 

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14 Oct 2020 19:43:04
Regardless of the footballing side of things, whether it undermines ole or makes it look like were harking back to the past etc it doesn't make sense from a health point of view as he's surely in the high risk category from CV 19 given his age and previous health concern.

DSG

 

 

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22 Sep 2020 13:33:45
Seems like a big risk to have an obligation to buy a player like dembele for such a large amount of money with his injury record.

DSG

 

 

 

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21 Oct 2020 10:43:51
Proper centre back performance although he was helped by the way Ole set up with a back 5, meant he had plenty of cover from AWB and lindelof.

Some of his recovery runs were really good and exactly what were crying out for at centre back.

Bailly seems to be injured again, i think its time to call time on his united career unfortunately as i don't think it will ever work out for him at the club. Maguire and lindelof have their obvious limitations.

If axel can't make it this season, he won't get a better chance.

DSG

 

 

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21 Oct 2020 10:38:36
We looked really good and even more threatening when he came onto the pitch.

Great bit of in game management by Ole, after martials inexplicable own goal i thought PSG could go on to win if we kept sitting back.

Bringing pogba on put PSG under pressure and that eventually told when rashford scored the winner.

Long season ahead, sometimes well go with 3 at the back, 4-2-3-1 and last night showed how well a 4-4-2 diamond can work. Plenty of games for out 6 first team centre mids to play in.

DSG

 

 

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19 Oct 2020 11:51:04
Its been 5 games.

No one doubted that James 'could' have been a good signing but he also 'could not' have been a good signing. For reference, see sanchez, mata, lukaku, mkhitaryan etc.

DSG

 

 

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16 Oct 2020 22:08:38
Totalsportek. com.

DSG

 

 

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15 Oct 2020 20:59:21
I will be watching but i am poor so will be exploring other avenues to view the game.

DSG