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25 May 2025 14:32:42
Rumour has it that Amorim told Garnacho in front of the other players to find a new team. If Antony can thrive in Spain then I can imagine Garnacho quite possibly developing into a mega star there or elsewhere in Europe.
1.) 25 May 2025 14:45:58
If he has in front of the team it's not something I approve of. By all means if RA wants to show who is in charge do so but you don't descend to Garnachos level but do it face to face in private. Humiliating anybody is not the way to go.
Beyond that unless RA is being really pushed to sell who will he bring in who is better for a lot less than Utd is likely to receive for the sale of Garnacho?
Garnacho is still young. Obviously has a strong desire to succeed and ran his socks off during the last part of season. Even in the Europe League Cup final it was his introduction in the last twenty minutes that saw a more threatening Utd.
I can see him flourishing in a much better team and he will be another who we will regret letting go.
2.) 25 May 2025 16:01:43
Another poor decision from RA if true. You don’t do that to somebody. What are the other players going to think? Hardly going to want anybody to fight for RA going forward and he can’t replace everyone.
Also openly announces to the world he is desperate to get rid of AG. Which will dramatically reduce the price we can get for him.
And with not much of a transfer budget this summer, it’s just another position we will have to replace.
3.) 25 May 2025 16:42:49
Oh seriously, what’s this selective hearing on what part of the press you believe or maybe just looking for another stick to beat RA with….
He certainly won’t become no megastar anywhere but his own head.
4.) 25 May 2025 18:20:20
Lucky for you guys that you weren't born during the Fergie era else you would have burned the man alive for kicking Beckham in the head in front of the team. Garnacho has a lot of talent but the attitude that will put Sancho to shame. Just because you guys don't approve of Amorim doesn't mean you want the worst for the club. Garnacho just needs to go.
5.) 25 May 2025 18:49:52
I have been Garnacho’s biggest advocate on here. I think the lad has talent, pace and a high ceiling of what he can become.
I wouldn’t have sold him, until…. Before the final there was a leak about Yoro playing and frankly it sounded like AG had thrown his toys out of the pram. If they sell him then fine. this is a team game, all in it together. AG may not be.
6.) 25 May 2025 19:51:20
This sort of rumour is always divisive.
Ultimately we don't know if it's true or not, and if it is the context of the situation.
Maybe Garnacho was mouthing off and kicking up a stink, and Amorim laid down the law and told him if he doesn't like it then clear off.
If it happened something like that would it change your opinion of the situation?
The way I see it is that Garnacho seems pretty petulant and immature. He has made numerous questionable social media posts over the past couple of years, he's got into arguments with fans, while there are rumours that he was the source of several dressing room leaks and has had issues with several players behind the scenes. While I can't verify the accuracy of many of these rumors, there's rarely smoke without a fire. The sheer number of rumours would also indicate a certain amount of substance to them.
He is a talented young player, but his attitude keeps being brought into question. If we are to clear out the rot then we cannot ignore a young player with a poor attitude regardless his level of talent or potential.
7.) 25 May 2025 21:45:29
If he did, then good on him!
8.) 25 May 2025 22:09:37
First off it's a different generation to when Fergie was in his pomp and kids nowadays need to be treated differently.
The art of man management is getting the best out of your players and calling them out in front of their peers may work for some and not for others. Garnacho is still a youngster. He has a typically Latin American fiery temperament and that should be taken into account.
I don't condone his behaviour but I do understand it. If possible my choice would be to channel that ambition and desire into a productive end product that benefits him and the team.
9.) 26 May 2025 01:16:42
You make me laugh, you all want Rashford gone because his attitude along with laziness and say he is common link with bad attitude in dressing room, but because RA wants rid of Garnacho because does not want that bad attitude in the dressing room to fester, but it’s ok…. If we are keeping crap attitudes might as well keep Rashford, least he knows where the net is and scores more goals
than Garnacho
Garnacho always been an arsenal, was it 2 seasons ago that Bruno even had to have words with him, and more recently Cass given him a roasting on more than one occasion.
Someone on here said Garnacho will go onto be a Megastar, that’s ridiculous the kid will always do OK and be little above average, that’s all, decent player but no superstar and 100& never Mega….
We either want to build a team and have a team squad and team dressing room or we don’t, these kids are being treated like something they are not, Mainoo if rumours are correct about his demands is another one, done nothing in the game, get your head down and work harder than everyone else on the training pitch, keep mouth shut and learn from real superstars and then you may be a great player, but whatever the riches will follow…. But in 2025 it seems even 17 year olds think the world owes them something…, .
Let’s build a team.
10.) 26 May 2025 10:32:36
Thanks Maize.
11.) 26 May 2025 19:59:29
Garnacho, a good talent but remember people talked about the circus with Pogba.
His brother has been caught out leaking the team, tweeting criticism of players on a personal level. Complaints about being on the right rather than the left.
It feels to me that he’s not got the right people around him and has an ego which is inflated as a result. No one is bigger than the club, doesn’t matter if it’s David beckham or Pete the plumber as Fergie said.
12.) 26 May 2025 23:14:35
I like a good rumour as much as the next guy. But you can't be going taking one and running with it just to suit your opinion, lads.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with German! ?.
15 Dec 2022 17:24:24
"Asked for an update on the sale of United, he (Glazer) told the outlet, "It's not necessarily a sale, it's a process and we're going forward with the process, so we'll see what happens. "
When he was pushed for further updates about how many interested parties had made themselves known already, he added: "I'm here to really watch the World Cup but I appreciate your interest. That's the update, it's the process and the process is proceeding. "
Loose lips sink ships, eh? Or, no offers yet?
1.) 15 Dec 2022 19:03:26
Shawthing,
The cynic in me think he’s was over there in business. He doesn’t give a damn about football, he wouldn’t be able to tell you the United players left.
2.) 15 Dec 2022 20:31:51
The Glazers have been to something like 6 United games in 17 years. No chance he was in Qatar to watch the world cup. He was there on business.
3.) 18 Dec 2022 08:37:42
They were there to watch Man Utd in the Soccerball World Cup Superbowl Finals.
29 Jan 2019 22:38:42
Frustrating game in many ways, which could have been so different had Rashford scored as he should have done in the first 10 minutes. He did not have a great game and nor did Pereira who looked completely out of his depth against a very aggressive midfield. I really don't think he's good enough for United, or indeed the type of player who will do very well in the EPL.
In this new system Sanchez looks like he could contribute significantly. A forward line of Rashford, Martial and Sanchez seems like it ought to pay dividends.
1.) 30 Jan 2019 05:23:42
Agreed, the interplay of Lukaku near the penalty box is not fluid as between Rash, Martial and Lingard.
2.) 30 Jan 2019 09:31:55
I was sat in the East end at OT. We should have had another penalty.
3.) 30 Jan 2019 14:28:00
To be honest I think Pereira didn't have his best game ever, but Jones throw him a brick, and then he got completely confused in the one-one defending.
I believe Pereira could be better but in an attacking position and no asan "herreras" replacement.
This is the first Ole´s game we start losing and that does not goes as planned, but the squad show commitment and desire. If Rashford scores that 10m goal the game would have been completely different with space and time for counters but rubbish happens. Let's focus on the next games and let's hope we have a great february.
i think it is better for Ole and the team to have lost the winning streak now and no in a game against PSG or Chelsea.
GGMU.
26 Dec 2018 22:43:47
Very good to see United score 8 goals in 2 games even if it was against teams near the bottom against whom we've been having all sorts of trouble. The tempo and the pressing seem to be what's needed. Perhaps Sanchez and Lukaku will benefit from it when they come back into the reckoning. But suffice it to say we have now scored 37 goals this season. If we can double it in the second half it will be our best haul since SAF's last year. If we're going to come 6th then the United way is surely that it's more entertaining to do it with 75 goals for and 55 goals against than with 50 goals for and 30 goals against.
I must say I've been unimpressed by Dalot defensively. He doesn't look like he has the pace and his positioning appears very suspect. I know he's young and there's an adjustment time - Evra didn't settle immediately - but nevertheless he's going to have to improve dramatically to cement that right back position. The other new player who doesn't they seem to have what it takes is Fred. It's hard to believe we were persuaded to spend £52m for him - or perhaps not, given some of our purchases recently. We would have done better spending it on a top center half. Many United fans criticized Liverpool for spending so much on Van Dijk but he seems like a bargain at this juncture.
1.) 26 Dec 2018 23:26:42
Shawthing, speed can be deceptive. Dalot was clocked as being the fastest player on the pitch today. But if the timing of that speed is not right it can be wasted.
He is a raw talent no doubt. We don’t have great options right now.
2.) 26 Dec 2018 23:44:01
Give the young lad Dalot a break. A couple of weeks ago against Fulham he couldn't get enough praise. That he was the answer to our right wing back problem for the next 10 years. Then a weaker game today and you're not sure is he going to make it. Inconsistency is a given for a teenager. Support your own.
3.) 27 Dec 2018 07:15:15
In fairness, that was one of Huddersfield’s tactics, mbenza is very quick, and Anytine they could they tried releasing him. Dalot was on the back foot very quickly after an attack broke down. Great lesson for the Lad.
4.) 27 Dec 2018 07:29:16
Dalot is young, 19 years old and playing only his third game in the EPL. His last performance won him man of the match so I see no reason to be worried about him. He is young and he will be inconsistent, he will make mistakes that is all part of learning. He has the qualities to become a world class full back, we need to give him the time and the chances for him to fulfill that potential.
5.) 27 Dec 2018 10:20:15
Dalot is certainly my Pick over an aging TonyV and Young (who is doing ok too) .
He is our future at right back, so let him play I say.
6.) 27 Dec 2018 11:25:22
He looks more like a future winger to me. He doesn't seem interested in defending.
7.) 27 Dec 2018 15:25:05
We've been defending whole season and still conceding goals. I don't even care whether Dalot comes back to defend or not. It was just nice to see our right back in the opposition box getting a cross from our striker and almost scoring a goal.
8.) 27 Dec 2018 18:07:46
Centre back and we are sorted Imo. we have options everywhere else. I'm really excited by dalot him, Shaw and lindelof could be together for a while along time and build a good understanding.
9.) 27 Dec 2018 19:03:50
Also how he plays will depend a lot on who is managing him. He did well defensively in Mourinho's defensive set up.
Ole has said publicly he wants our full backs to push up high and overlap our wingers. So if that is what is being asked of Dalot then it's good to see him following the managers commands.
02 Dec 2018 17:46:30
Assuming the rumours are true, if you believe your £90m transfer is playing with inadequate effort and/ or a poor mentality, a dressing down in the changing room in front of team mates is perfectly reasonable. I bet every one of us who have played sports have at some time or other have heard it from a coach or a colleague. Grow up and knuckle down. Most of the kids who watch you would kill for a chance at 1/ 10th of the benefits your innate talent has brought you.
The fact is Pogba is a disappointment. While he covers a fair amount of ground within a team that consistently covers the least in the EPL, he rarely sprints, neither in offence or defence. This characteristic was visible when he first stepped on the field in a United jersey before he went to Juventus. He looks lackadaisical, and it's probably one of the reasons why Ferguson was not inclined to fight to keep him. The problem is that, while he has talent, he is way to into himself to be a true leader, and that's the key role we need him to fill. A player who leads by example.
We are 5 years into the post-Fergie era and we are worse than ever. We do have some good players to build a team around but it's hard to see anything positive coming from them in the current climate. Given the amount of money we've spent, the only conclusion we can draw is that we are infected by a virus. Whether the source is Pogba, Mourinho or the general club mentality itself is a matter of conjecture. My own sense is that Woodward, Mourinho and Pogba are all symptoms of a deeper problem.
1.) 02 Dec 2018 21:07:06
All 3 of them should go at the end of the season.
We should say thanks Jose but uts not worked ta-ra. Says Pogba but you want to go to Spain so here's the asking price. And Woodward should have the decency to say "it was my decision to appoint Jose so I'll step down. "
2.) 03 Dec 2018 06:49:20
Fergie did want to keep Pogba, it was out of his hands. and while you might think Pogba has been disappointing his season, so has Lukaku, Rashford, Martial (most of the time), Bailly, Fred, Matic. who hasn't been disappointing? People might point to Shaw, but he hasn't gotten back to the 2-way beast he was looking like before his injury either.
I think when that many players aren't performing you have to look at the manager. And it's not like Mourinho's faults have been hard to see. Bizarre team selections and subs, consistently embarrassing behaviour, publicly sledging players all the time and bemoaning a lack of signings.
He's got to go. He's not one of us and he never will be.
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09 Jun 2025 16:57:01
Reports today suggest that Ten Hag tried to block the Antony transfer but the powers that be didn't want to allow him to be acquired by a rival club, namely Arsenal. True or not? Either way it demonstrates managerial ineptitude. Players should not be bought at inflated prices at all but certainly not for the main purpose of preventing other teams from getting the player but because they fit into the system the manager is trying to implement and will improve the team.
1.) 09 Jun 2025 17:24:53
And where was that released from ETH side I would guess, strange that’s come out when he just been employed and don’t want them to think he is incompetent when looking at a player, perhaps they will also make an excuse for every other one of the terrible buys by ETH and try to blame someone else!
2.) 09 Jun 2025 18:08:30
The club at that particular moment was a ? show. If you read Laurie Whitwells fantastic in-depth articles on those transfer dealings around that time, it is incredible.
I lay no blame at the managers door, for he wanted very different things to happen.
{Ed077's Note - don't know about others but Antony was on the club radar before OGS was sacked, ETH wasn't a biggest factor there.
3.) 09 Jun 2025 18:44:32
That may not go down well with certain posters on here Ed ??.
{Ed077's Note - but that was well documented here, by Ed002. Antony was being looked at by the club before ETH was here.
4.) 09 Jun 2025 18:51:41
Woah stop these revelations before the anti ETH posters start listing 100 reasons why when it rains its still his fault.
{Ed077's Note - Utd have made countless terrible transfer decisions, before and during ETH time
5.) 09 Jun 2025 21:21:43
Considering all the many meringues of mess we are all aware of, little would really surprise me tbh - certainly not this Antony/ Ten Hag 'revelation'.
Even now, if it was revealed that Sir Jim had banned all paper/ plastic cups in the office with the expectation of watching staff tightly gripping cup shapes with their hands, I'd not even break stride.
If he rolled out a big batch of shewees for female staff so he can close their toilets, I'd shrug a hmmm and await the next dose of idiocy.
And this is now, when we're meant to be sorting stuff out - by eck, what a shambles.
6.) 09 Jun 2025 21:34:12
Whatever people have to say about eth he does not negotiate contracts and fees. He had a veto on any signings he said so himself but he was not responsible for what we paid.
Anthony was on a lot of clubs radar. He is a better player than he has shown at old Trafford. I hope Beth's can raise the money but if not I think others will Shaw interest.
7.) 09 Jun 2025 21:38:40
Who cares at this point? What's done is done, and whoever it was who ultimately made the decision, well they are gone and no longer here.
I'm more concerned about the decisions of those now running things and how they can get Antony off the books.
8.) 10 Jun 2025 06:39:44
Maybe Antony was on the radar, but I am sure if before he was signed ETH had gone to whoever was buying him and said, look he been a player of mine and known to me for years, he won’t make the transition to the EPL and he only got 1 foot, not got greatest attitude with sulking, is a one trick pony on top of that got accusations in his private life…. even the stupidest person would have had to take notice…. and think oh maybe let’s reevaluate!
{Ed077's Note - private life stuff only came up after what a year or more at United? ETH was new to the PL too so I'm not completely surprised that he didn't quite comprehend the pace and physicality of the league beforehand
9.) 11 Jun 2025 14:34:40
No the private stuff first reared its head a year before he joined…. So would have expected club manager to be aware then.
23 May 2025 21:14:00
McTom and Lukaku scoring as Napoli head for the Serie A title. Would we have been a better team with those two rather than Hojlund and Zirkzee? We would have saved some money too. McTom was an absolute. steal.
1.) 23 May 2025 21:49:58
Napoli have a top manager, don't overlook that, not everyones cup of tea but Conte is a very serious coach.
2.) 23 May 2025 22:05:39
And Anthony has scored for Betis.
3.) 23 May 2025 22:06:10
Darmian and Miki in the Inter squad to come second and be in Champions League final.
4.) 23 May 2025 22:39:39
Let’s not pretend all the above mentioned set the club alight they didn’t.
They have found their level in a team that suits them in teams with much less pressure where they are getting 90 percent less attention by the media because it’s United and everything is blown 10 times worse.
5.) 23 May 2025 23:18:33
Hey Bolger, have they found their level or have they found an environment they can flourish in? There’s a clear pattern forming of players leaving us and playing well elsewhere. Maybe a bit of both.
6.) 24 May 2025 01:02:38
Amz do you remember how bad Lukaku was and how much he was slated on here, everyone wanted him gone.
Mctominay was a tough one personally he would have been a good squad player but I’m glad he’s doing well he’s a top professional although not the best he gave it 100 percent and ran his balls off.
I think they have found there level, look at Antony no one in here can say he’s been hard done by United or wasn’t in a great space he was absolutely terrible and has found his level in a much less physical and demanding league.
Some players cannot adapt to the English game look at Veron for example looked great in Europe but in the prem was awful.
7.) 24 May 2025 01:54:30
Lakaku may have been bad here, but nowhere near as bad as Rasmus…
McT was always a stupid sale, but I have said many times ETH bought in worse than he got rid off.
I can’t agree with your statement about less limelight, that’s narrow vision, having lived in Italy and spain along with Germany the press are every bit as volatile if Madrid lose in a final its front page news and been in a black paper before, Italy is no better, they are absolutely scathing in the press about teams, Germany same with Bayern, don’t for on e minute think it’s the big bad press in UK that just pick on us!
8.) 24 May 2025 07:02:14
Lukaku couldn’t control a ball passed to him, he needed it in front of him to run on to where he could use his pace and strength. However I recall reading an article where the coach, I think Conte got his coaches working on him all summer to improve that. He scored and still scores goals which is something we don’t have. Still I don’t yearn for him.
McT is doing very well but is being played in the correct role not the ones the idiot ETH assigned him to.
Decisions are made to sell but they are only right if we improve our position and under Ole and ETH there were some terrible decisions made.
We lack a keeper, just look what Ole did with Henderson, look the story up, shambles. He just got MOM and the FA Cup. We have a bumbling idiot in goal that cost 47m.
We have made so many mistakes in the last few years, amateur bunch of decision makers and clowns as managers . How we have non scoring forwards and expect to win games has been a classic, clown in goal donkeys up front.
9.) 24 May 2025 08:28:45
Mac should have stayed, sold for Ugarte. but he is happier now and I'm delighted for him.
10.) 24 May 2025 08:42:43
Fair point Bolger. I find it a bit mad that so many are going on to do well for their respective clubs.
11.) 24 May 2025 09:22:01
Yes I can’t make it in my lads school football team but I’m a beast at walking football.
12.) 24 May 2025 09:31:43
Lukaku was a tremendous goal scorer Ole wanted to go with a quicker front line tho for the counter attacking i was gutted when the big man left same with Mctom was a square peg in a round hole isn't a holding midfielder that's what UTD used him as was always a box to box player flourishing now at Napoli same as he does for Scotland playing in his proper position.
13.) 24 May 2025 10:15:40
Red man, you are something else. When you have the bit between your teeth, nothing or no one else is right.
Bruno - Sell him
ETH - Clown
Amorim - Great coach with a vision
Bruno Fernandes to this club in 288 games as a midfielder has scored 98 goals and assisted 86 more. In this season alone, possibly the worst of all time, he has dragged us through games, scoring 19 goals and assisting another 19. Sure he has a poor game the other day, but our coach put him deeper sacrificing Ugarte and he played poorly. But others around him can step up and have a good game, it can't always be on Bruno.
That Clown ETH, actually played McTominay in his correct position, scoring 10 goals that season and his contributions being directly responsible for 15 points. And it is now the position where Conte plays him too, do you even watch Napoli games?
RA - Your saviour, the Great coach, the highly Non flexible visionary, with great determination (Finally the club have one, you say, not a clown like ETH, with his 2 trophies in 2 years) no, Amorim, with 6 wins, 6 draws and 14 losses. 4 of those wins against relegated sides. A win percentage of 23% percent, .92 points per game. He has oversaw a campaign where this will be our worst league campaign of all time aside from our relegation of 73/ 74.
You don't half talk some drivel when you think a certain way.
14.) 24 May 2025 10:27:17
I surprisingly agree with all of that redman. Everything we have done in recent past to strengthen the team has weakened it.
15.) 24 May 2025 10:56:07
McTominay used to get dog's abuse on here, but now it was the manager's fault all along?
Lovely lad, great attitude, but I can't remember any campaign on here not to sell him.
Some revisionism goes on here.
16.) 24 May 2025 11:18:27
angel
I express my opinion on here just like everyone else. We don’t agree but hey that’s the way things are in life. Some people must think the Government are great as well. If it’s ok with you I will just sum up my opinion?
It’s time to sell Bruno for £100m, because he is near 31 isn’t a leader and didn’t lead the team in the key game and £100m is a fantastic amount for a 31 year old.
McT didn’t perform as he is now but was not played in the same role here and was sold under ETH. He was not one that I was upset about going but would have been a good squad player.
I get you don’t like RA, fine. I want him to be given time to sort the utter mess.
Oh and I want a benevolent owner to buy the club and pay off the debts
Is it ok if that is my opinion being posted on a banter site?
17.) 24 May 2025 12:14:14
angel
Just on McTominay,
McT himself insisted “he could have been better used by his managers, accusing them of 'misprofiling' him.
Rather than being deployed in the box-to-box role that has brought him success at Napoli, the Scottish star was predominantly used as a defensive midfielder, or No 6, during his time at Manchester United, occasionally even being asked to fill in at centre-back. ”.
18.) 24 May 2025 12:17:58
It's not about liking are not liking Amorim red man.
But when YOU believe in something it's that or nothing else. McT was literally played the same way here in his last season under a so called clown (ETH is far from a clown by the way) and McT plays the same in Serie A. Like I asked, do you not watch Napoli?
With Bruno, you have been on this bandwagon for years yet he is the only top performer at this club, the only real leader despite his poor performance in the final. why couldn't anyone else stand up for once? Forever reliant upon Bruno.
On RA, I like him, he's a fine coach just as Eth was before him. But you ignore the absolute incredibly bad job he has done up to this point and load it with excuses, blaming everyone else but the man in charge of footballing matters.
Have an opinion, but you shove it down everyone else's neck.
19.) 24 May 2025 12:54:13
Redman did he name check ETH in there. Because I'm struggling to remember when Ten Hag ever deployed him at CB.
Again, he scored 10 goals in his last season under ten hag, his goals responsible for 15 points. He didn't do that from CB or a no.6 position where managers prior to ETH had played him.
When he has spoken of ETH, it has been nothing but positive and respectful.
So I'm not really sure the point of your words above other than trying to use them to fit into your narrative? ?.
20.) 24 May 2025 13:03:19
Don’t agree with much you say Angel, but I do the above 100% people getting derogatory because a differing opinion is absolute lunacy…. But hey ho, then have the audacity to say it’s a banter site!
21.) 24 May 2025 17:47:18
Remind you of anyone German?
22.) 24 May 2025 18:40:06
angel
Did ETH sell Mc T and was ETH sacked? Yes, so ETH wasn’t the answer. For me ETH was brought in to replicate the Ajax system but then instead of sticking to his principles tried to just work with what he had. The reason I want to give RA time is that he has stuck to what he believes, he has not been deflected by short term gain, unlike ETH.
As I have for 15 plus years I just express an opinion, agree don’t agree up to you, no agendas, no narrative or games, no shoving it anywhere.
23.) 25 May 2025 15:24:38
ETH didn't work with what he had Red Man the signed half the Ajax squad what you seen was TH ball absolute chaos with no midfield hoping for a counter he didn't abandon principals was a poor coach the Prems to big for him same as it may prove to be for Amo no matter how low you set tge bar for him or excuses made see bu Oct/ Nov i'd say still gash he's sacked 100 per cent.
24.) 26 May 2025 12:04:41
Is Ten Hag not on record as saying he did'nt want McTominay to leave?
22 May 2025 15:33:41
Obviously a lot of comments today about just how bad we are, and whether or not the manager is up to creating a winning team in the EPL. I won't add to those discussions.
Last night summed up the season in a nutshell. Spurs get a lucky goal and then sit back for the rest of the game. When Van Der Ven cleared of the line spectacularly you just knew that we wouldn't ever score. The game was dull. Both sides showed why they languish at the foot of the EPL. It was not a good advertisement for English soccer.
It costs me $500 a year to watch the EPL here in the US. I cancelled my subscription last week and do not plan on renewing it when next season starts. Someone suggested I take that $500 and bet it on United getting relegated next season. 16-1 odds.
1.) 22 May 2025 17:18:51
Worth a punt.
2.) 22 May 2025 18:14:03
It’s 33-1 we win the league ?.
3.) 22 May 2025 18:16:43
How are you paying $500 annual in the US?
08 May 2025 15:53:42
Re: Garnacho
Out of players under 21, only Lamine Yamal and Desire Doue have more goal contributions this season in Europe's top leagues.
He's adapting to the new manager's style. He's still very aggressive in his running and directness but he's also become more of a team player creating opportunities for others. He's getting fouled a lot which means the other team is wary of his ability. His speed is often uncontrolled resulting in his final action being rushed and inaccurate. If Amorim can coach this out, and give him the confidence to relax into his obvious ability, then I think he could become a very good player for us in the next few years. He and Amad could both be critical to a much needed increase in our goal scoring tally.
1.) 08 May 2025 16:15:33
Those two players you mention are far far more dangerous than Garnacho is, they look like doing something everting they got the ball especially Yamal, Garnacho can’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as Yamal, that’s for sure.
2.) 08 May 2025 16:31:28
Yes he can German, read that first sentence again. A completely legitimate sentence.
3.) 08 May 2025 16:38:12
He just was. In the top 3 goal contributors under 21 category across all major leagues.
4.) 08 May 2025 16:44:12
Like Antony, if Garnacho was playing in another league and with better players around him he would have more time and be more successful. IF he capitalizes on his chances, and continues to improve his final ball, we will be talking about him in the same breath. He'll be contributing to 20-30 a season.
5.) 08 May 2025 16:52:03
I think Garnacho has impressed Amorim with his hard work and it appears like he is developing more into the role he wants. Whether that is enough and Amorim sees a future for him only he knows. It is possible he does not rate him and getting £40/ 50m for him will be seen as good business and we can get an upgrade in.
Another aspect may be where Amorim sees Mainoo (and potentially how much he rates him) . Is he best in the number 10 role, does that make Garnacho more disposable, what does that mean for Mount (lots will say get rid but if fit Amorim seems to like him)
Some of it will come down to finances, if we have enough money to bring players in (we will hopefully be bringing in close to £100m from Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Malacia) then maybe we see what Garnacho can do for another year. If we need money then he is an easily sold asset.
Aside from all of this, what does he want to do. Does he even want to play in the inside forward position or does he want to play as a winger in a 433 by which point he may be pushing for a move and the decision is taken a bit out of the clubs hands.
On the comparisons, he is currently miles off but that does not mean he can not springboard next year.
6.) 08 May 2025 17:14:00
Not a cat in hells chance that Garnacho is anywhere near Yamal, and if anyone thinks he is you seriously need Specsavers and urgently, just take of the red specs they are seriously deceiving you
Plus if your saying oh Garnacho only 21 he will develop well Yamal is 17 and so will he…. and Yamal was tearing grown men apart for Spain at 16.
Anyone who thinks Garnacho is in same league must be using same opticians as Arteta.
7.) 08 May 2025 18:02:36
Slightly misleading that. Garno scoring record is poor this season also yamal put in about 20 deadly crosses in that last game we’ve not seen that many all season from Garnacho. he's missed loads of opportunities to create and seems to go out of his way to not create for our striker. Liam Delap has more than both according to TikTok….
8.) 08 May 2025 18:08:15
Good post Shaw. He's clearly a very good player. His goals and contributions in a very poor united team really stand out. Like you said, with better players around him or even a better performing team as a whole and he can contribute even more.
9.) 08 May 2025 18:46:29
German. Why can’t they both be mentioned in the same sentence? You just mentioned them both in the same sentence ???.
10.) 08 May 2025 19:59:20
Garnacho is still young and has a lot of potential to develop ahead of him, which he will need if he is to reach the top.
For me the problem with him is that he is a player who plays on instinct more than thought, and I think he is trying too hard to be like his idol (Ronaldo) and he just isn't the same kind of player. For a start he doesn't have Ronaldo's physicality, his speed or his ability in the air. Yet he wants to try and get the ball wide and cut in and shoot every single time. Which wouldn't be a problem if he was actually good at shooting. But a quick look at his stats highlights a player who should be looking to create chances not finish them.
While he is in the 98th percentile for shots taken, he is in the 26th percentile for goals scored. Which makes sense when you realise that he only gets 32% of his shots on target which puts him in the 23rd percentile across Europe's top five leagues.
He just isn't a natural finisher, probably because he plays on instinct which leads his to often snatch at shots or take shots from poor positions because he sees sight of the goal.
I've always said that I feel he plays better on the right than the left as it forces him to pass more and think about what he is going to do. He plays more with his head up.
He's got that knack of getting into good positions and instigating attacks, but he needs to learn to keep his head up and look to play others in to better shooting positions far more.
I saw a stat the other day that Garnacho actually starts more attacks in our team than Bruno. The difference is his attacks often go nowhere due to poor decisions he makes. Either running down a blind alley and losing the ball, shooting off target from distance or from a tight angle, or just holding on to the ball for too long allowing the opposition to get back in shape.
I'm on the fence with him as to whether he will develop that side of his game to the degree needed for him to ultimately be a success here.
He has the talent in his feet, it's whether he has what is needed between his ears. There is no place in Amorim's team for a knock-off Temu Ronaldo wannabe. If that is the player Garnacho is determined to be then he won't make it. If he listens to the manager/ coaches and commits to developing into being the best Garnacho then he has every chance.
I'd be sad if he left, but I'd also understand it.
11.) 08 May 2025 20:50:01
Aot are fixated on the Garnacho of old. Look at the Garnacho of now, he has changed, for the better.
He must stay.
At this point, if I had to choose between Garnacho and Amad being sold, it would be the latter.
12.) 08 May 2025 20:59:23
Blimey. Think Amad is literally the last player I’d sell at this club.
13.) 08 May 2025 22:59:32
Wow jimbob that's ludicrous imo. Garnacho is definitely not in the must stay category.
Really good potential and a good player but no player is a must stay least of all him.
14.) 08 May 2025 23:22:30
I don't think either should be Spenno.
In another year, see where everyone is, that's my opinion, aside from the obvious deadwood, which neither Garnacho or Amad fall into. Also Mainoo. I can't believe any of those names are being mooted for sale even. But that is the discussion.
15.) 09 May 2025 00:42:47
If you all want to sell Amad, can you send him our way? I'd love for him to deputies and eventually replace Salah ;)
But jokes aside, I think Garnacho has impressed me in recent games. His head has deflated and he has gone back to that hardworking player he used to be before his ego got the better of him. If he continues this way, I can see him growing into a great player.
16.) 09 May 2025 07:20:48
Garnacho looked great tonight didn’t he! Such a poor finisher, hopefully he is sold along with Ugarte, no surprise the team got much better when Ugarte out of midfield, and how much difference Amad made, he done more in 2 mins then Garnacho did in 60 mins, Cas looks much better with another beside him, Ugarte just not got the legs the mobility or the passing, I’m actually not sure what he even brings to the team….
17.) 09 May 2025 07:51:28
100% sell Garnacho
100% sell Rasmus
100% sell Ugarte
100% sell Antony
100% sell Rashford
100% sell Martinez
100% sell Deligt
100% sell Onana
No loans just get rid, and replace this lot with proper players, Amad done more in 2 mins then Garnacho in 60
Cas looks much better without Ugarte next to him
Rasmus, championship striker at best in U. K.
Martinez and Deligt too many injuries and not that great anyway
Mainoo replace if good offer comes in, or just keep as squad player, but he clearly thinks he is a starter so may need to be sold.
18.) 09 May 2025 10:18:53
I haven't been Garnacho's biggest fan German but I can see improvement and maturity from him under Amorim. I can also see that last night along with others he looked really tired. He plays nearly every gameand gives his all. He is never injured and is 21 in a struggling team that every single action is examined by the media. It's easy to be critical but you must also give credit at times.
19.) 09 May 2025 11:00:56
German this summer we can't sell martinez he is injured and won't complete any medical.
Ugarte is in his 1st season and warrants a squad place next season imo. He has improved as the season has gone on. He is limited in his passing but has other good attributes. I think we need 2 new midfielder in there who can start and then have ugarte and collyer to compliment them.
The rest of your list i'd agree with.
20.) 09 May 2025 11:09:20
Guess someone's been playing Football Manager again :D
Ugarte going nowhere so soon after joining and I reckon de Ligt is a likely captain if Fernandes goes.
21.) 09 May 2025 12:30:24
Yawn, Ugarte has been superb in bigger games, he's got character too, same as De Ligt. We need characters and leaders in this team of few leaders. Some people have no idea what makes a "team". I wonder how well Yamal would do in the premier league right now? Yes he would be good but he wouldn't get special treatment and it is more physical. And Yamal has great technical players around him. Very clever in that when he plays a pass or shoots he falls over like Bernardo Silva, Diaz and the rest so that he gets a freekick if the pass or shot doesn't come off.
22.) 09 May 2025 12:50:11
Never heard a more delusional fan than German. Wants rid of ugarte martinez and de ligt ?.
23.) 09 May 2025 15:03:37
Why not what one of them is any good then….
Deligt been injured most of his career, when he does play, slow and ponderous
Martinez another injured more then he plays and also a liability
Ugarte can’t pass a ball 10 yards, not mobile or got the legs and RA don’t even fancy him
So all 3 a waste of time, not sure why that’s delusional, if you want these 3 players in the team, then your clearly happy being in bottom half of table!
24.) 09 May 2025 16:28:02
German "RA don't even fancy him"? But starts him in big games? When did you last speak to RA for his opinion? Ugarte can pass, players can have poor games in possession and that's why sometimes they get subbed off. De Ligt would have started if he were fit. He puts his body on the line for the team. He just needs rhythm, your more likely to get injured when you've just come back from an injury. It's conditioning. I'm convinced you are just a troll or you actually just support somone else and you've got too much time on your hands.
You could be Onethirddingle too?
25.) 09 May 2025 17:38:50
De Ligt is quality IMO. Ugarye I'm not yet convinced of but I'd be happy for him to have another season.
Garnacho has shown signs of improvement but just needs to. improve his shooting. He also needs to be played on the right. I'd give him another season.
26.) 10 May 2025 05:29:27
If Yamal played for United and had a bad game he would suddenly be the worst player ever and would be labelled deadwood.
27.) 10 May 2025 07:25:30
I can’t see the Deligt quality bit, he been injured most of his career, he is slow and ponderous and hence why we are looking for a new CB…
Ugarte is woeful in my opinion.
Garnacho needs cashing in on, just not suited to what RA is trying to build, plus you got to take your chances or at least hit the target, he don’t.
28.) 10 May 2025 13:17:38
RA doesn't rate Ugarte but plays him whenever he's fit. I've figured out who Germansuppclub is guys.
It's Eni Aluko. Talks as much nonsense.
29.) 10 May 2025 13:22:39
What's your opinion on Ugarte, German?
13 Apr 2025 20:05:23
Both United and Spurs woeful in defense today, maybe with next Thursday weighing heavily on their respective minds. We gifted 2, Spurs gifted 4.
First half was actually not bad. If the ref had awarded a penalty to us just before they scored their second, I don't think it would have been overturned. Definitely a push in the back. After their goal the team capitulated. Newcastle are on a hot streak and it showed. Men v boys. However It was only a little worse than I expected given the starting midfield and a back 3 of Yoro, Lindelof and Mazraoui. I'd keep Bayandir in on Thursday.
1.) 13 Apr 2025 21:43:45
3 mistakes for 3 of the goals and wrong decision making for the pass for their first goal sums our season up.
But if this lot think they can win the Europa they are dreaming
Was expected to lose with the changes and players being rested for Thursday and the fact Newcastle are a miles better team than us
But the way we get beat annoys me and it’s happened now for over 5 years
We can’t just get beat 1-0 or 2-1 and be like “oh we were unlucky
We haven’t put in a proper performance for 90 minutes for as long as I can remember.
Glad when the season is over but if they cannot get up for Thursday knowing this competitions reward.
But the senior figures need to be as ruthless getting rid of players as they were sacking the people who have lost their jobs
Half the team needs replacing…
And as for the keeper he is just as poor as Onana both absolutely stink.
09 Jun 2025 16:51:20
We're on the hook for his salary and his amortization. ideally he's sold and off our books but that is likely to be impossible. United will be looking for the best loan deal they can muster. If they can cover half of the total cost fr next year they will probably take it.
04 Jun 2025 11:40:00
With Heaven, Maguire, De Ligt, Yoro, Mazrauoi, Martinez and Shaw all being potential back 3 players you would think the priority would be elsewhere. They kept Maguire because doing so would be cheaper in next year's accounts than buying an expensive replacement who may or may not succeed. There may also be academy other players who could be promoted to fill in any shortfall and/ or replace Maguire when he moves on at the end of next season. The priority has to be scoring more goals and the money will be spent with that in mind.
01 Jun 2025 11:40:08
I have it on good authority that those who run Dortmund spend at least 2 hours every day on manunitedrumours. co. uk in order to make sure they do not miss our transfer news/ rumours.
23 May 2025 14:46:08
Doesn't Sancho only have 1 year left on his contract meaning that if his original cost was £73m his book value should now be down to £15m and a £20m sale would yield a small profit?
I wonder whether there will be interest in Antony from any richer clubs than Betis. His book value is reportedly still around £32m. His salary remains an obstacle, but we can only hope. If not maybe he can stay there at Betis. They qualified for the Europa League and could maybe afford to cover all his salary.
Amorim doesn't seem to fancy Mainoo much either but if Bruno goes he maybe has to be kept for another year. Often players have a poor second year after impressing the first. Kobbie was blighted by injuries this season, maybe he'll shine next year. All profit if sold.
Dalot could also be a potential sale. He's been written down to £0 so it would yield all profit.
The commentators on the Europa final were suggesting that a place in the Champions League would be worth > £100m between guarantees, sponsorship etc.
With no European football we should be able to make do with a slightly smaller squad.
26 Feb 2025 15:50:36
They are not taking dividends at the moment. The family were all assuaged by the partial sale of shares to SJR.
07 Jun 2025 11:07:13
That's all true but had they hired competent football management we would not also have wasted £1bn in the transfer market. I've been against the Glazers and the leveraged buyout from day 1, but it is nonetheless the case that it was Woodward and his team that wasted available resources on bang average players, overpaid wages for new players and contract extensions, hired too many people, and failed to update scouting and analytics etc. Had that £1bn been spent well we would not be in the position we are in today despite the debt repayments and dividends. The Glazers biggest failure was their appointment of Woodward to run the club and then sticking with him.
04 Jun 2025 11:50:50
Sure, there may be some personal incentives built into contracts, but bonuses over base must in part be based on the team rather individual success. It's a team game. The base has to be enough to attract the quality needed. It's not the player's fault that our club has been so inept at recruitment and overpaying both initially and on contract renewals when the performance does not justify it. The primary onus is on the club management to do better.
01 Jun 2025 11:43:26
Remember how we got rid of RVN and replaced him with Carrick. Despite fears that we wouldn't be able to score goals the following season, we ended up scoring more and more players got their names on the scoresheet.
28 May 2025 23:32:49
We shouldn't be on tour so soon after the end of the season. The 1st team players need a break.
27 May 2025 06:28:47
According to the pundits (except fr Troy Deeney) 3 at the back doesn't work so, as good as these guys are, they're doomed to fail Amorim style.