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16 Jan 2018 12:51:26
BBC reporting that neither us or arsenal will agree to the sanchez transfer unless miki goes the other way.

No idea how much truth is in this, especially given how Ed02's previously stated that transfers involving money and an additional player are generally unlikely.

Imo if that's what's needes to get sanchez in I'd be more than happy, but it doesn't fill me with confidence for this transfer to happen.

RedD

1.) 16 Jan 2018 13:11:00
I can’t see it. I think miki will turn them down and it will go tits up.


2.) 16 Jan 2018 13:27:12
That's what in thinking. But then again, he must know now that he's not really wanted, so a move is going to be needed to reignite his career.


3.) 16 Jan 2018 13:28:18
Looks like it's other agents trying to scupper the Sanchez deal. If he comes brilliant . But let's not spend all January chasing a lost cause.


4.) 16 Jan 2018 17:15:59
It's being reported now it would be a straight player swap.


5.) 16 Jan 2018 17:51:52
Mhiki’s agent now stepping into the deal.

Enough said.


6.) 18 Jan 2018 13:22:23
Wenger saying deal is likely.


 

 

11 Jan 2018 12:53:59
Apparently we have put in a bid for Sanchez.

Made my day hearing that.

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11 May 2021 17:10:27
I'm actually quite excited to see this team play.

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20 Apr 2021 16:43:07
This was entertaining for 24 hours but I'm now officially bored of this crap.

Every has been and want to be is using it as an opportunity to get some media attention.

I'm interested in hearing from players and managers, especially those of the supposed big 6, but ex managers, ex-players, every team on the planet making a formal statement, urghh, go away, it's utterly boring.

I resent the supposed big 6 for putting me through this almost as much as for trying to jump ship and close the door behind them.

RedD

1.) 20 Apr 2021 19:42:00
Strength in numbers mate.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 17:01:22
Just seen this on reddit, copied from a Danish broadcaster.

Please, please let this happen. It would be just what they all deserve, and in spite of the hugely negative impact on us, I'd like to see it happen.


I for one plan to support whichever British team Rashford or Bruno play for.


Chairman of Danish FA and member of UEFA executive committee Jesper Møller expects that the 12 clubs will be expelled on friday.

Jesper Møller says that an extraordinary executive committee meeting is being held friday and Jesper Møller expects that the 12 clubs will be expelled.

". Then you must see how you finish the Champions League"

Furthermore UEFA will give the players' the choice of staying at the current club or terminate their contracts.

"I belive that the contracts automatically terminates when the clubs leaves. Then the players are free to chose to play in a club that's part of solidarity and community - our pyramidesystem"


I don't actually expect this, but it created too beautiful an image not to share.

RedD

1.) 19 Apr 2021 19:07:06
It’s all very righteous but not very legal.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 23:50:59
Its actually the fault of all involved in football. Boards Owners Managers Players Fans

As a Utd fan i didn't complain when we paid top dollar for the great players I have seen. I just wanted to see the best players winning trophies for my club playing if possible the Utd way.

All our managers didn't really care what such players cost. They wanted the best players so they could keep winning and keep their own jobs and possibly become a legendary manager.

The players didn't hold their agents back from asking for ever increasing transfer fees and ever increasing wages

The Boards loved the money from Sky Sports BT Sport etc why are we surprised that they want to increase their revenues by taking control of the game and the income generated by streaming games and selectively seeding clubs. They just want to maximise the amount of money it is possible for them to accrue.

Paying match day fans income is increasingly become worth less as a percentage of match day revenue. So misguidedly the fans are deemed of no or little value.


3.) 20 Apr 2021 08:35:55
salford its not just about increasing the revenue they can do that by making changes in other ways

they want to destroy what is the most competitive league in football

where anyone can beat anyone, the teams in 2 or 3 divisions below can beat the big teams, the dreams of playing in big stadiums in the FA CUP.

you don't get that anywhere else. this goes ahead the soul is ripped from English football and football in this country will be dead.


4.) 20 Apr 2021 11:19:22
A common feeling is that is about money-a feeling I share but is not the Champions League and Europa- couple of seasons ago in qualifying and mini league ECL games a ticket was circa £40- Barcelona came to town and £102 minimum- club said UEFA stated the price! The trouble with with football in all leagues revolves around greed from those who have it with apathy towards the lower league clubs who need it to survive- the balance is all wriong as welll as the distribution of wealth. Bolger2 nailed it imo italy had the cream in 90's, then la liga and now EPL - italian football clubs suffered, the big 2 in la liga are haemoriging money and Epl will end up that way.


5.) 20 Apr 2021 11:24:45
Agree with Salford, we can all moan about the betrayal and how owners are greedy, but we are funding that greed and are just as culpable as anyone else in the emergence of the EFL.

Incidentally match day revenue in 2018/ 19 was £111 million compared to broadcasting revenue of £268 million and sponsorship of £276 million. I genuinely believe that it won't be Sky or BT that get the rights but it is being lined up for Amazon/ Facebook to take over.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 15:33:06
On the plus side, something we can all agree is a great thing, the utd share price has increased by 8% in early trading.

RedD

1.) 19 Apr 2021 15:37:13
Excellent, the already rich majority shareholders who own the club and are trying to destroy it have just got even richer.

Yes, this is a great thing.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 15:49:25
shame with all the money they have they still haven't paid the debt off.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 09:08:22
When it was originally being discussed, I thought we may be leaving the premier league and hated the idea.

Now that the idea is a little clearer, I don’t think it’s that bad.

Those saying it’s just about greed and money, where have you been for the last few decades, of course it’s just about the money. Football became a business long ago, it’s only us fans that maintain some delusion that it’s about anything more. Money wins football, look at City, Chelsea etc, they didn’t get success because of their love of the game, and neither did we. Money gets better players, better players bring footballing success, which in turn brings more money.

As Ken says below, plenty of people couldn’t care less about the League Cup, some even the FA Cup, and others the Europa League. And let’s not kid ourselves, the vast majority are more interested in Utd vs City, or Utd vs Real Madrid, than they are about Utd vs Stoke.

So sure, we lose some tradition, but that happens, things change. Fifa, EUFA, the FA, the Premier League, we’ve all complained about them being more concerned with their own roles and power than thinking about the good of the game, this is no different, just a different bunch of rich elitists making decisions. I honestly don’t see the difference.

So, the argument about the founding 15, or whatever number it is, not being able to be relegated is a valid one. There’s something unpleasant about that, but everything else just seems to be an extension of what was always there. Those fans threatening a boycott will very quickly be replaced. Football as the highest level hasn’t been a working class man’s sport for a long time anyway. You can get all melancholy and nostalgic if you want, but things change and none of this is a real surprise.

Whilst initially I didn’t like it at all, realistically I’ll just accept it and enjoy watching Arsenal be bottom of the league.

RedD

1.) 19 Apr 2021 09:37:25
Nothing is in stone yet. Uefas statement makes it clear these clubs can be banned from domestic competitions. That includes the Premier League.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 09:47:53
Bang on red D.
Bar the no relegation and automatic qualification for founder members the whole thing looks a runner to me.
Find a way to make it more inclusive and I know I rather be spending my cash on a trip to support the team to Milan or turin than I would Barnsley or Watford.
All the posters that say they don't care about the keague Cup EL and fa Cup this is your doing!


3.) 19 Apr 2021 10:10:43
Football is nothing without fans - Sir Matt Busby

Ironic.


4.) 19 Apr 2021 10:14:04
James, the PL won't allow the big 6 to leave. They couldn't afford it. The big teams have always had the power and tolerated these other institutions standing over them.

It toom a few American bankers to realise that actually, they can weild that power far more efficiently if they show these old, slow and cumbersome institutions that they don't really need them.

The PL are only concerned because they realise they'll no longer be the top dogs.

The FA have become more and more irrelevant and ultimately omly care about maintaining what little relevance and power they still have.

EUFA are scared it's the end for them and all of the fat pay checks they've been receiving.

The top tier of football hasn't cared about the rest of the pyramid for decades, and the rest of them are mostly just there for the money anyway.

Fifa president, £3m salary in 2019. Head of the PL was about £2.5m. EUFA president salary is £1.6m pa (all from Google, probably not that accurate)

You can bet your ass those guys want to put a stop to any change.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool and Manchester United failed in attempt to disrupt the English game to support an expanded Club World Cup on a debenture basis - that was Project Bigfoot in 2020. The FA have tried to work a proposal that would see a smaller Premier League and introduce a Premier League 2 - the idea being with fewer Premier League games the higher-profile sides would be able to compete in any reshaped European competition whilst maintaining a their position in England - this appeals to some clubs (e.g. Chelsea) and allows The FA to keep control. Liverpool and Manchester United were involved in discussions but turned against it wanting more control themselves - and that led Liverpool to say they will form their own breakaway league. Attempts at a compromise solution have now fallen apart. Project Big Foot and is about FSG wanting more money and more control, and that is to some extent what is behind this latest proposal and why JP Morgan have been roped in to the Return of Bigfoot. This has a long way to run yet.}


5.) 19 Apr 2021 10:29:37
They know they will be expelled from these competitions, giving them no choice to but to play the Super League in place of domestic competitions.

Ken, we will end up the Barnsley of the Super League. You won't won't to go and watch United being thumped week in week out will You?

Our owners can't compete domestically with City or Liverpool. Add Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus into that mix and we havnt a hope.


6.) 19 Apr 2021 10:31:02
ken i'm sorry but that's just bs,

the traditions in which football was built, with this super rubbish have took away what the history of football in this country is about.

the idea that the founding **** will be guaranteed a place every season based on what? because it isn't merit.

guaranteed income of 300 million plus.

what about how the fa cup and league cup help the lower clubs? the traditions of what football is in this country are dead if this goes ahead.


they should allow these clubs to join this weekly league but kick them out of all other comps/ leagues if they want to do that

if they want to join this super league then you should be told to forfeit your right to be one of the clubs participating in our countries comps.


7.) 19 Apr 2021 10:31:44
I thought the super league is being proposed to run from August to May, so wouldn't it conflict with the Premier League schedule?


8.) 19 Apr 2021 10:37:59
You have been talking about this for a long time ed. Looks like your crystal ball was right.


How do you see it panning out?

{Ed002's Note - I see it dragging on and the courts becoming involved and discussions between the "elite" clubs group this week (which includes most of the sides involved in this proposal), perhaps follow up counter offers from two other factions, and at some point discussions with UEFA and FIFA. But a letter has already been drafted and sent saying legal action will be taken by SLCo and is already in hand.}


9.) 19 Apr 2021 11:15:44
But what's the point in Leicester or Everton etc trying to win the league? So they might get thrown a bone for a season? Imagine the big 6 don't finish in the top 6 for some reason. All the club's above them don't get European places or play in a 2nd fiddle tournament. It makes mid table clubs have no ambition other than to stay in the league. How is that good for football. It creates a monopoly.


10.) 19 Apr 2021 13:43:40
Isn't the Football Associations' trump card international football?


 

 

 

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30 Apr 2021 13:20:30
Seen that too, and apparently from a reliable source.

Would be great for us if he does stay. Means we can focus on other positions this window and worry about a cf next year if the problem hasn't taken care of itself via greenwood or rashford.

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21 Apr 2021 07:56:34
First to leave? We were the leaders! We never left! It fell apart around us.

But I don't suddenly have more respect Chelsea and City, they were happy enough to go along with it, they didn't take the high road here, they just bottled it.

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20 Jan 2021 19:16:34
Surprised that romero couldn't be a starter for a Premier league club. I think he's done well for us and clubs could do a lot worse.

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07 Oct 2020 20:45:22
I really don't understand the profiteering thing.

I assume it means that the club can't extend the contract by the additional year just so they can sell the player and make a profit.

But if we did extend it and an offer came it, I assume we could still accept it.

Ed02, can you explain the concept in a bit more detail or perhaps point to another source worth reading?

RedD

{Ed002's Note - The concept is that you cannot extend to make money but if the player is sold the profit, or a negotiated profit, would go to him.}


 

 

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03 Oct 2020 20:22:04
Ed02 I have literally no idea what you're talking about.

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{Ed002's Note - That is good - you won’t find out from me.}


 

 

 

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21 Apr 2021 07:53:26
Klopp and Pep only spoke out because they were forced to do press conferences and had no choice. Can't really blame Ole for the fact that his chance hadn't come up yet. I expect he would have shown a similar perspective at his press conference had the whole thing bit died on its ass before he had the chance.

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20 Apr 2021 20:53:26
There was a Glazier name stamped all over this.

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20 Apr 2021 20:08:01
Juve president resigned too.

I'm sure I'm not alone in enjoying this.

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20 Apr 2021 19:17:44
DLIB our integrity was sold long ago, as was Chelsea's and City's.

This was a step top far though it would seem.

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20 Apr 2021 19:16:23
Ed002, care to expand for us dummies?

RedD

{Ed002's Note - The proposal was misrepresented to Chelsea - they did not suddenly make a decision because of the fans at the ground. They listened to the fans and will be open with the discussion at the “elite” clubs meeting tomorrow.}