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04 May 2024 14:07:09
I was having a conversation with my son yesterday about refereeing. He is now at the stage where he feels that the standard of refereeing and the inconsistency is making a joke out of the game. VAR might be helping with offside decisions but on the down side it exposes, rather than resolves, the inconsistencies. If you're going to have VAR then surely it should be easier to be consistent on interpreting what is a hand ball or a trip justifying a penalty.

The problem starts with the ruling on the field taking precedence. We have had virtually identical hand ball situations in the last couple of games, one given against us and one not given for us. If the decision is to be reviewed by VAR anyway, it should be possible to increase consistency instead of expose it.

Today I'm watching Arsenal v Bournemouth. It's 100% clear that Havertz drags his foot intentionally over the goalkeeper's foot to win a penalty. The ref was quite reasonably fooled by the ruse, but VAR should be overturning it but failed to even ask him to review his decision.

Okay, so controversy is and always has been part of what makes the game what it is, but if the goal is to reduce or eliminate bad decisions, then the VAR officials have to have a bigger role in ensuring that the rules are applied consistently. It really shouldn't be that difficult: however, week after week the refereeing mistakes continue, only to be exacerbated by inadequate VAR application. You would think that PGMOL would want to improve the situation rather than continue on this path.

04 May 2024 14:58:37
VAR is like the Conservatives. Everyone wanted it at the start because it said it would improve things, but after a while people have realised it's not all it's cracked up to be, so now people want rid.

04 May 2024 15:26:59
Embarrassing dive, absolutely, but I see you forgot to mention the studs up challenge straight into sakas leg that somehow wasnt seemed a red card.

VAR is such a joke that I genuinely wonder if the refs are intentionally messing up to try and get it removed, a child could make better decisions!

04 May 2024 19:24:36
My latest bug bare with referees is the number of players who are blatantly diving for a penalty, the ref says no and plays on, but no booking is given.

That’s a minor point amongst the poor refereeing standards in England but it emphasises that the people making the decisions don’t know the rules, or are too scared to implement them.

The on-field refs have become bottle jobs, sometimes not giving a decision because they have VAR to check and fall back on. But the VARs are their mates who often back up the initial incorrect decision.

The way we use it and the weak mentality of those in charge is a big frustration.

Still the biggest example of our season is that handball by Romero. How that is not a penalty is beyond me. I’m not blaming the refs for our poor season because all clubs have to put up with the same refs, but you have to wonder which way the momentum may have swung if one or two decisions would’ve been given for, or against (Onana v Wolves for example) .

03 May 2024 19:55:13
In-depth interview with Gary Neville and EtH here (29 minutes).

I'm not expecting it to change people's minds on whether he should stay or go. And I don't want to open up another debate, but it gives some good insights into things this season and he comes across really honest and sincere.

I think it's quite clear that he understands the club and what it needs, whether he is given the time or not is up to Ineos.

04 May 2024 07:08:00
Good interview. Comes across very well. Sounds like a man that will be there at the start of next season.

04 May 2024 08:37:21
I thought GR asked some good questions, many of them ones we’ve all been asking. Ie the shots conceded and glaring gaps in midfield.
I think any serious owner, DOF or whoever who has gone in above EtH this season will have seen the issues he’s faced. A few oddities of his own making but mostly out of his control.

04 May 2024 09:15:15
I like EtH,

His first season I thought that we played some really good football.

The turning point was the league cup win against Newcastle. Newcastle really gave Utd a good game androugked a few feathers. This unsettled the players to pont where they appeared to question the teams ability. This was when Utd started to wobble abit.

The real turning point was the Martinez injury against Sevilla. Utd without Martinez are a completely different team. His absence has been sorely missed this season.

The second season, questions have been raised about EtH and rightly so. He has made some questionable substitutions and stuck to playing out of form players, who should have been dropped.

However injuries have blighted the team this season and have shown just how much quality this squad lacks.

Roll on next season!

04 May 2024 10:30:35
Good post MH. I saw this reply from Pilib de Brun today on X. Pretty much sums it up. I think ETH does well with a proper structure and a quality team. Give him time.

He doesn’t have the pace in the back 4 Sav to play a high press/ a high line, it’s essentially the same back 4 that Solskjaer had (except Ten Hag has no left back for more than half our games this season) . Ole had to play a counter attacking style to for this reason. The problem is, when you play that way you’re forced to invite teams to attack you which will inevitably lead to conceding more shots. Martinez is a massive loss, we have nothing else remotely like him, we lose his leadership, his defensive skills and his ball playing ability. Not having a left back is unforgivable, Wan Bissaka can not play left back, he can’t overlap because he has no left foot which greatly impedes who plays on the left wing and the central striker. When Shaw played at Wolves, Rashford scored centrally after 5 minutes, he also set up Hojlund for a strikers goal that nobody else can provide on the left. The squad is massively unbalanced, he’s got one fit center back, no left back, he’s given more minutes to teenagers than the top 6 combined, he has lost a bunch of fitness and technical staff that he wasn’t allowed to replace, he has a medical department that’s a decade behind and he’s been working for a club who haven’t been trying to win the league for a decade. There’s lots of fair criticism for Ten Hag and he’s not obviously blameless but a fully fit Utd team is basically a top 4 team, the fact he’s had 70+ injuries this season, wasn’t allowed to spend in January, I don’t think it’s capital offense to be sitting in 6th and in his 3rd cup final in 2 years. I genuinely can’t believe how they left the guy without a left back mate, it is shocking sobering ineptitude.

04 May 2024 11:27:55
And one actual striker. Who is 20. Ridiculous.

04 May 2024 11:30:36
He wasn’t great, but what was the story with Reguilón? I could understand him leaving if Brentford purchased him.

04 May 2024 11:53:29
Angel that’s a great point, ETH’s back 4 is Ole’s back 4, only worse because AWB is playing at left back.

The quote mentions AWB doesn’t have a left foot. Well he doesn’t have a right foot either. Never have I seen a player in our red shirt with such poor technical ability. Another where the effort seems to be there but the quality is not.

We’re still playing McTominay who was half of the McFred partnership we all wanted to see the back of, and Casemiro is a crock.

Frankly I think we’ve done well to get to another FA Cup final, considering we all agree that 80% of the squad should be sold and lunatics have been running the asylum behind the scenes.

04 May 2024 11:55:01
It’s interesting that they clearly had a choice of Kane (first choice) then moved onto Hojlund. Two completely different profiles. I assume Kane was more an opportunity because he became available but a younger raw striker was the target.

04 May 2024 12:13:00
I agree with a lot of what you say Angelred, Having most of the back four changing so drastically all season and not having a proper left back has affected us massively.
Wan bissaka for me hasn't got the concentration levels to play at right back never mind left back, constantly slow to move out and playing people onside all the time, I also think that Shaw not playing affects Rashfords game too but that doesn't excuse the massive drop off we have seen from him.
Look at Liverpool when they had all there defence and midfield players out injured for huge chunks of the season it affected the way they played in a big way.

Would we have been in the top four now if we had been able to play our strongest team consistently all season, I do believe we would have been.

I still believe that ETH will be gone in the summer but if he is still here then I will back him and the team as always.

04 May 2024 12:37:58
He doesn’t strike me as someone who’s worried about his job.
Why would this interview go ahead if Ineos were looking to sack him in 3 weeks time?
SJR has also praised Arsenal for sticking with Arteta.
I can see Ten Hag staying and hopefully improving next season.

04 May 2024 16:21:25
He has said before that he was told by the medical team that both Shaw and Malacia would be back to full fitness and playing in Jan. So, he agreed to send Reguilon back only for both to have major setbacks. I think our finances have been a major problem this past 18 months. One young developing striker fit for a club our size is just crazy.

Bottom line is that we are an impatient club and we want to win now. But we are in a mess following years of awful recruiting and it will take time to untangle. We still owe a fortune in transfers, but our squad is nowhere near. Buying older players with no sell on value has been a disaster. Giving players wages that mean no other club would ever take them has been a disaster.

I would give ten hag another 3 year year contract now, and then set about fixing our squad. If a player is being paid more than they would get at any other club, they are on too much! We need players who want to play at utd, which are young and hungry and ready to roll up their sleeves and work hard everyday.

04 May 2024 16:42:06
A few on here will have cardiac arrests reading your suggestion about giving EtH a new 3 year deal Dodgy.
But whether him or someone else, as hard as it is to suggest that we are still in transition after over a decade of decline, that’s all we are. A sleeping giant someone with a plan needs time to untangle.

02 May 2024 15:58:50
Great news everyone. Tony is back in training! Cue a new 5 year deal 😂😂.

02 May 2024 17:31:49
If he makes a squad before any youth players I'll be sick.

02 May 2024 18:18:06
If he gets playing time scores a hattrick and attracts a higher purchase price because of it I will be delighted!

02 May 2024 18:27:34
Think his contract is up Salford?!

I for one cannot wait to see the back of Martial.

02 May 2024 19:09:16
The biggest blagger at the club and that’s saying a lot. Least he’s out of contract so we will finally get rid. Lucky Ed Woodward’s gone because he probably would have given him a new five year deal 😂.

02 May 2024 19:58:31
Ports, “ I for one cannot wait to see the back of Martial. ”
Weed said the same bit for a different reason. 😂.

02 May 2024 20:11:15
Him and Rashford are twins.

02 May 2024 23:48:48
Out of contract, lazy and always injured. £10m please 😂.

03 May 2024 06:24:35
He is here for a farewell match.

03 May 2024 09:59:11
Talented player, and still our best finisher at the club. Sadly riddled with injuries, and seems to lack the mental strength needed to be a top player we needed him to be.

03 May 2024 14:18:19
just got heavier looking year on year from his initial years and injuries Galore. on his day was superb but far and few days like that.

03 May 2024 16:06:23
I think Martial had about two good days. Even less than Pogba.

02 May 2024 13:14:13
Have to remember too that without Martinez and Shaw there are few option to play out from the back, AWB, Maguire can't take the ball from him. With better option in front of him it will improve.

02 May 2024 13:37:05
If your on about onana I've not really been worried about how he distributes the ball. I've been worried about his actual goal keeping, no point being great with your feet if you can't use your hands as a keeper.

02 May 2024 13:46:21
Obviously with our full squad fit the team will play better. But playing out from the back doesn’t explain why there is such a gaping hole in the middle of the pitch.

There are major tactical failings that can’t be explained away by injuries. As much as I’d like ETH to stay another season to give the new directors time to identify the right replacement, the same excuses are wearing very thin.

02 May 2024 14:00:59
Fair post Danny and Brooks.
Whilst I agree you can't make a silk purse from a pigs ear it doesn't have to be a cheap cotton purse full of holes.

02 May 2024 14:14:59
Casemiro was immense last season, something has happened with him, perhaps the intensity of his first season in the premier league took a lot out of him but we weren't to know that or expect it so obviously didn't replace him this season. I certainly don't think we'd win the league but had we had Rice or Rodri for example in there this season I think we'd have got top 4 again because that hole most games wouldn't be there and that is where we get punished most of the time. It's then whether we would have pushed on elsewhere around the pitch.

02 May 2024 22:42:27
Besides which, Ports, he had 3 years left on his contract and was unsaleable except at a loss, even if the coaches knew he had lost a big step. I also think that the fact that he was being pulled up repeatedly on the disciplinary front impacted the way he could play in England. He had already become less impactful in the second half of the season after the suspensions. Perhaps he was used to getting away with more at RM than he could playing for us, or perhaps he just has to foul more now to make up for his reduced speed. Casemiro is one of a long line of players we've acquired at the end of their careers, who have failed to have more than a one season impact, if that.

If there's one thing the new regime will have noted it's that there are no quick fixes, and that acquiring older players past their sell by date only succeeds in kicking the can down the road. We've been doing it since SAF's last few seasons, completely failing to acquire and develop longer term prospects. Wasn't there a time when Tom Cleverley was going to be the new Paul Scholes.

02 May 2024 06:22:08
Fantastic performance last night from Sancho, the kid was full of confidence and taking the full back on at every opportunity.
Surely a win-win situation for United if he can keep it up for the next few weeks as he may hit it off with a new manager or can put himself in the shop window for other clubs.

02 May 2024 06:51:07
Redpaul

Interesting, one of the observations from the commentators was that up to recently, he had slowed down and was more negative looking to go backwards after his period at Utd, but now is starting to be like he used to be. I watched last night and he was excellent, trying to get behind his fullback, what we the fans wanted him to do here, however, everything Antony doesn’t do. It seems obvious Sancho was given tactical instruction that negated his effectiveness. That does not excuse what he did. Still good to see him have such a good game and MOM.

02 May 2024 08:20:42
Look. If we get a new manager and if both parties want to give it another crack, then he solves a huge problem area in the squad. Young, English player, who we clearly haven’t seen the best of - but who in that squad have we seen the best of under ten Hag? Maybe Dalot?

So many judgmental people in society these days, execution by social media with such binary views. Throw him away, get rid etc. it’s all pretty gross. If it’s Tuchel, the way he plays his wide men at Bayern, Sancho could he a useful addition back to the squad, and could be an exciting option for us.

We are getting a reputation for being the graveyard of footballers, destroying careers. Rehabilitating a reinstated Sancho could be a good shout for our club, and on the pitch too.

Couldn’t care less if he hated ETH, by all accounts he’s a pain in the ass. None of us work well when we don’t like our leaders at work.

02 May 2024 08:31:21
It seems sancho has got his mojo back so it makes you think what potential talent MU have at present in strikers Rashford, Garnacho, Greenwood, Hojlund, Sancho possibly as good as you get in the premier or Europe.
Zero cost to MU in transfer market over the next five plus or more years for strikers if individuals had been managed properly!

02 May 2024 08:50:16
Hopefully they sign him permanently off the back of it.

02 May 2024 08:59:15
Pleased for him. He has gone through a tough time. Nice to see him happy and enjoying his football.
Nice to play with freedom and be allowed express himself.
Brilliant home support too.

02 May 2024 09:25:08
Nice to see a wide player run a full back. Ours seem instructed to pass back and inside, if you don’t you get taken off. Refreshing last night to see forward passing by midfield players, wide players attacking full backs on both sides and forwards attacking the ball. We don’t see it at OT at the moment, it’s not in the process.

02 May 2024 09:41:02
Supposedly the most amount of dribbling (whatever that means) by half-time than in any of his 58 Utd appearances. Maybe a new-found confidence, not that he seemed lacking in that area.
The Chelsea loanee at Lb Maatsen looks decent, could he be an option? He's Dutch so I'm amazed his name hasn't come up.

02 May 2024 09:53:25
The most predictable thing that was going to happen today was people coming on her to praise Sancho and use it as another negative towards ETH. If Sancho can do what he did last night, he's the sort of character I do not want at the club. Hopefully Dortmund will put their hand in their pockets now and stump up for him.

02 May 2024 11:03:18
Or Ports, he’s being instructed to be a winger and okay like a winger again, unlike anybody but Garnacho in our squad.

02 May 2024 11:21:31
If you can’t see the difference in coaching I would be surprised. It won’t be long until taking on the full back is coached out of Garnacho. He will start doing the same as Antony, who has had years of ETH coaching. Then if ETH stays, Garnacho will be off. In two years we will be watching Garnacho run rings round full backs for Real Madrid, pleased for him like we were for Sancho.
Sancho was wrong in what he did, yet it is well known ETH is difficult, but also we can see wide players are passing back, inside across. If you are a forward, a wide player that isn’t football you want to play.
Maybe we can get the Dortmund coach, seems to know how to get a team to play forward.

02 May 2024 11:46:40
OMG - Sancho has a decent game and it's all ETH'S fault.
How fickle are some of the supporters on here.
Absolute joke!

02 May 2024 11:56:53
It's not about a difference in coaching, it's about energy and effort and coaches aren't there to coach those areas, that's non-negotiable. Whether you agree with the coaches tactics and instructions is one thing but you give 100% at all times. Sancho made a choice every time he put on the United shirt. He didn't perform for Solskjaer, Rangnik and never performed for England when played. He has a massive attitude problem. No one has ever questioned his ability.

02 May 2024 12:14:19
Plenty of differing views which is nice to see.

02 May 2024 12:38:24
Good point Ports, When you consider the number of managers who have had questions about Sancho down the years (this includes Dortmund and outside our club) the issue definitely lies with him.
Should the club, coaches be able to get more from him. yes. Does this make it not his issue. no.

This is another case of it best all round if he moves and both sides get a clean break.

02 May 2024 13:10:16
We all knew he was good at Dortmund and that’s why we paid £75m and awarded him with over £300k per week!

Is it really a surprise he’s returned to Dortmund and is playing better again?

I hope if EtH returns to Ajax and suddenly becomes a good manager again some posters will say the same thing?

By the way it’s ONE decent game!

I almost hadn’t noticed he was poor for Ole and Rangnick, his attitude and temperament questionable by other coaches, let’s just blame EtH for that as well.

Come let’s have some sensible debate please.

02 May 2024 13:11:32
As a fan who grew up in awe of the great wingers Utd have had since the mid eighties this is the position in the team I'm always drawn to, the tricky little guys who excite the crowd and create the chances for the guy in the middle. I appreciate the role has changed a bit in recent years with all the tracking back and energetic pressing but even so, these are the players I love to watch most. He was great last night, dare I say if he wasn't who he was and there isn't a history he'd be a player we'd be crying out for right now. We only have Garnacho who plays like those wingers of old. Hope we can snare another crowd-pleaser in the transfer window. Someone that gets you off your seat like Mitoma or Neto. Looks like Olise is a target, I'd love to see Eze instead but he's more central.

02 May 2024 13:24:10
Are you the self nominated arbitrator for what's sensible?
Best point you've made in ages there dlib
"I hope eth goes back to Ajax"
I'm glad you've seen the right way forward.
Nearly all managers fail at some point.
Can be a load of reasons for that.
Eth has failed at united to meet minimum expectations imo.
This does not mean he won't be a success again elsewhere.
Just like plenty of our players deemed useless and lazy by fans including your good self.
Mata lukaku sanchez herrera blind Di Maria darmian to name a few have all won titles and leagues since they left.
So your right eth will be seen as a decent manager again somewhere else. Let's hope that's as early as next season.

02 May 2024 13:37:41
Sensible debate? When I suggested we shouldn’t sign Sancho on here i got the usual pile on. When I suggested Ousmane Dembele for far less money usual pile on.

Is sensible debate ignoring that our wide players pass back and inside but when Sancho played well we must ignore it to save ETH shortfalls?

Yes one game and I didn’t like Sancho attitude but there is a clear issue with coaching wide players when we watch Antony.

02 May 2024 14:07:30
Not won titles and leagues in England though. Turkey, Italy and France? Not comparable to the Premier League so to use them in your defence of Sancho to support your criticism of ETH (which is what you are trying to do) is not reasonable.

Perhaps acknowledgement that Sancho is not cut out for the Premier League and did himself no favours in trying to be successful in England is a fairer reflection on the player and has zero to do with ETH. And perhaps ETH is not cut out for the Premier League and would go on and be successful for Bayern for example. But are the minimum expectations different at Ajax or Munich to United? So why do you think he will be seen as a decent manager elsewhere to United? What is stopping that happening at United? What stopped Mourinho, serial winner, winning the league? LVG a CV to match some of the best? Why didn't United take of with McKenna as a first team coach? 8 different managers since Sir Alex Ferguson have all failed to meet your expectations it would seem.

02 May 2024 14:11:04
Red Man - My apologies I didn’t mean to be offensive or antagonistic.

I just don’t think the coaching has anything to do with it, Sancho had been ineffective at Utd under different managers not just EtH.

Him playing better at Dortmund shouldn’t be a surprise, that’s why we paid all that money for him in the first place.

I understand the frustration with the manager but I don’t think Sancho should be used as another stick to beat him!

02 May 2024 14:23:11
Like you spenno I believe our wingers have always been the backbone of our creativity.
Going back to Hill And Copple olden giggs Sharpe Beckham giggs.
Few dodgy ones through the years In milne poporsky etc.
I accept the game has changed somewhat but when you look at the best teams they still exploit the wide areas better than anybody.
We don't.
Our full backs go into midfield not up the line. Leaving our wingers with options on the inside only more often than not.
It's a clear tactical choice and one that does not sit well with me it's not pleasing on the eye.
Anthony has been coached that way by eth for 4 years.
When garnacho is on the left he does likewise as does rashford and sancho was handcuffed and frustrated by it obviously. Amad can't get a look in as it goes against his nature.
I'm dumbfounded that eth thinks we are one of the most dynamic and attacking teams.
Can anybody honestly say we would score less and concede more under Southgate?
I'm not advocating Southgate BTW.
But the complaint about him is he is too defensive and careful and not adventurous. Well neither is ETH.

02 May 2024 14:29:39
So you think we shouldn't have signed Sancho, presumably because you felt like he wasn't good enough, we did sign him (not ETH) . ETH doesn't give him games, perhaps he to felt he wasn't good enough, questions his effort (despite supporting him for 4 months (I also recall you being very passionate about selling Rashford because he doesn't offer 100%) ) he leaves and plays a good game and now it's ETH shortfall that, that has happened? But to support that you will criticise Antony's performances because he is coached by ETH but completely ignore Garnacho's performances, who ETH promoted to the senior set up? By the way, Garnacho has made less backwards passes than Foden and Saka and only 13 more than Luiz Diaz and 26 more than Salah.

02 May 2024 14:34:17
I agree with Ports think they’ve made some very good points.

02 May 2024 14:35:16
Weed, "Are you the self nominated arbitrator for what's sensible? "
We all thought is your position on here.

02 May 2024 14:51:17
Ports none of those players played under eth. What are you talking about.
Those players that fans have deemed useless before are not useless.
They may have been useless at united like sancho has been but they are still very good players.
I never used them as a stick to beat eth you just have a bee in your bonnet and are jumping to mad hypothesise.
To use them in my defence of sancho🤣🤣 what defence of sancho? Where have I defended him . Really you do need to stop fighting a point that didn't exist. Take a nice deep breath and point out to me where I've defended sancho. Please.

02 May 2024 15:01:18
Ports can you put a little context on those stats please?
As a percentage of total passes how many go backwards?
If foden for example makes twice as many passes as garnacho and they pass a similar number backwards then it would show that its a lot more common for garnacho to do it. That's why stats are not comparable unless you give the same criteria to each set of numbers.
Also how often do each lose possession?
A backwards pass under pep is berated in training (there are many videos of it, worth a watch) if a forward pass is on. The flipside is if the player passes backwards the players who don't give forward options are also singled out and lashed out if it. Its coaching and standards.

02 May 2024 15:12:06
'We all thought' who the bash street kids😅😅
Nah just out on the boat trying hard not to laugh out loud too often. Frightens the fish. Not setting any agendas at all.

02 May 2024 15:14:01
''Nice to play with freedom and be allowed express himself'' If that's not a backhanded jibe at ETH and not defending Sancho I don't know what is?

To be fair, I did misinterpret your post about those players. I assumed you meant Sancho will be successful playing away from United and that you were directly relating that to him not playing for ETH. Apologise.

02 May 2024 15:18:57
Ports moyes I called to be fired.
Lvg I did not as it meant abandoning a succession plan they had in place.
Jose I did not want fired, although I do think he should have resigned the day the window shut and they backed the players over him.
Ole just a complete waste of space.
That's 4 managers 2 fell below expectations
How many of those did you want fired ports?

02 May 2024 15:29:18
No apology required ports.
That was not a back handed jibe at eth it was a straight forward jibe.
He does not allow the players that freedom he says so himself.
It was not defending sancho it was praising him.
He played well last night with freedom in a system that allows that.
It's not defending his time here.
Take the bee out of your bonnet wazza and fizzy pops could do the same.
Don't be concerned with my views stick to and defend your own.
I'll debate them all day but some just don't like being disagreed with and get offended.
I've been called worse than a pita by a stranger on the Web if he thinks that, then that's cool with me.

02 May 2024 17:05:25
I didn’t want Moyes in the first place, thought the job was to big at that time. Needed an ego and big personality to replace SAF, arguably the hardest job in football. I always felt Mourinho at United should have been after SAF. Didn’t want LVG sacked. But like you said why Mourinho should have resigned, after that I have backed every manager above the players. Playing for Manchester United should be a privilege, as is managing Manchester United. I see Managers working harder, maybe not getting everything right but working harder in their role than some players in theirs.

As for the pass backwards I have always stated on here stats are nothing without context but I put this stat up on here because people using it as a negative but the top players do it to so unless your prepared to back it up with something, a throwaway pass backwards comment to be critical means nothing. Now for me, there are so many contributing factors to things in football. Often Garnacho is the furthest forward so only direction he can pass is backwards. Could he put more crosses in? But do we get enough players in the box which is why he doesn’t? Foden makes more passes but City keep the ball better. We don’t keep the ball well and control the game so is that what we are trying to achieve? I don’t have the answers and unless a United player comes on here or tv and tells us what exactly goes on we are all making assumptions.

Fernandes is hammered for giving away possession but he trieds those high risk forward passes more than anyone, should he pass backwards more?!

For me, people are now just looking at anything to criticise the manager now and once again, players are absolved of all responsibility and this is my biggest issue with the players and why I will back the manager as I just see the same cycle repeating itself. I hope INEOS can change that, with or without ETH, but I think ETH deserves til Christmas at least to work for them.

02 May 2024 17:43:15
I can't see one reason to keep him at all.

02 May 2024 17:58:31
DLIB
No apologies needed

Ports

I find it hard to believe when watching Antony that anyone cannot see what has been coached. Garnacho will be affected like that as time goes by, if he stays. I posted last week about the pass map for two of our midfield players, sideways, back, almost never forward. I closely watched Antony in the Sheffield Utd game, played everything back, that’s against the worst defensive team in the league. You can see it. As a player do you enjoy that?
I have said that for some time, not just now.

02 May 2024 20:59:52
Seen it all now!
The usual EtH haters using SANCHO as a reason to find an angle to have a go.
Well said Ports! It was as predictable as death and taxes.

Pathetic
Boring
Predictable
🥱🥱🥱.

03 May 2024 12:39:01
Fickle bunch. One game and suddenly he is mbappe that needs to be appreciated. Watch a few bundes liga games I recommend, although the season is almost over.

Glad for him and hope we get decent value from selling him. He is not a united player. At what we are supposedly willing to let him go and how good he suddenly is there must be a line of teams waiting to buy him. let see summer is not too far away.

People have short memories and forget the groans as he played the same way but lost the ball over and over and every 50/ 50 ball, it just happens on one night it came off for him.

Barcola looked worldly vs Barcelona and was terrible vs Dortmund. go figure :)

03 May 2024 13:47:35
ahmad

How does Antony look to you when he passes the ball back and across, never goes at his full back? He doesn’t lose the ball so that must make him a raging success.

04 May 2024 08:34:35
Redman

Sancho has 3 goals and 2 assists since joining dortmund playing pretty much every game. You are so fickle and look for an angle to blame eth for every thing. He had a good night that all.

if he had those numbers at united playing every game since jan, you would be the first to call for eth head for playing him.

Similar numbers to antony btw given games played. Neither good enough for united imo. Never been a fan of antony and was quite vocal about that yonkers ago.