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01 Sep 2020 13:08:22
Rumours of Galatasary interested in Fred, not sure if true but i can see why he would be intersting in a move with Van De Beek coming in and constant rumours of Grealish. I like Fred and think he works well in a hard working role and we saw his best prior to lockdown, however I am not sure that Olly is sold on him so i can see this being a possible exit.
If this does happen I think it is one that could bring in a decent fee that could be used to bring in a replacement (maybe Grealish) that Olly does like and bridges the gap when Pogba/ Fernandes come off.


1.) 01 Sep 2020 13:34:09
I think we can scratch Grealish off the list now. He is overrated.

2.) 01 Sep 2020 13:42:51
I think the offered 2m for a years loan. we won't get a decent fee for fred particularly in the current climate. If we got back a quartet if what we paid we would be doing well.

3.) 01 Sep 2020 13:53:05
I'd rather sell Perrieira, Mata and Lingard before fred.

4.) 01 Sep 2020 16:19:25
Agree with Mad Hatter here, I would rather see Pereira, Lingard and Mata out than Fred.

5.) 01 Sep 2020 17:14:47
I'd be surprised to see Grealish arrive too now although he adds something different to what we have, even with VdB. I do feel Fred is a useful if unspectacular player but one we'd hope to recoup a decent fee for.

6.) 01 Sep 2020 18:38:18
Fred was decent last year, he gives his all every game and covers every blades of grass. He is one of the last players I would want to see leave.

7.) 01 Sep 2020 20:04:49
I hope Fred doesn't end up turning into the next Ander Herrera. Losing another good squad player and keeping the likes of Perreira, Lingard etc.

8.) 01 Sep 2020 21:20:15
Kurtis I agree. I'd keep Fred and loan mcsauce. I like them both but mcsauce given a year on loan at a Newcastle or somewhere alike would come back a much better player. I don't see Fred going to Turkey improving him alot, he'd contribute more here. I'd like him to get more games time than Matic. I'm not saying anything bad about matic, but his legs have clearly gone, we don't want to get to November and him be burnt out with no decent cover.

9.) 02 Sep 2020 00:04:18
Fred is not a player we need to keep. He can't pass, shoot, tackle, control the ball or dribble. Not really sure what he brings to the side that McTominay doesn’t?

Likeable character for sure yes - Utd quality no.

10.) 02 Sep 2020 04:16:06
If we are letting Fred go and basically replacing him with Donny van de Beek we are looking to move forward. Fred and McTom are both squad players. We can have either one of them, and I expect James Garner to step up in a season or 2.

11.) 02 Sep 2020 09:36:45
Fred is better player than McTominay.

Loan out Mctominay over Fred all day long.



17 Jul 2017 11:03:42
So current rumour is that we will move for Kroos as part of the discussions withRM about DDG.
So, if available should we get him, does he offer the best style to complement Pogba/ harera or do we truly need a Matic HM.


1.) 17 Jul 2017 12:11:09
Kroos better player but Matic will suit our system better, plus Moo Moo knows him and will do what he's told. Prem proven.

2.) 17 Jul 2017 12:53:25
Toni Kroos won't come mate. Best chance we had was a few years ago before he moved to Mardid.

3.) 17 Jul 2017 13:23:41

That isn't what we have heard previously from Ed002.

4.) 17 Jul 2017 13:56:56
GDS2 - Sorry, what have I missed and where is it?

5.) 17 Jul 2017 14:13:18
If there was an acceptance ddg was leaving it would be a big call not to take kroos if it shown to be possible, played for some good sides but made them better a serial trophy winner, you'd need a pretty special side not to fit him in, not realy a destroyer though but offers massive control of a game against good sides to imo.

6.) 17 Jul 2017 18:01:24
I'd take Kroos all day long and there's no reason at all a midfield 3 of Kroos, Herrera and Pogba wouldn't work. I get what people are saying about what Matic would bring but there's no need for that if the opposition can't get the ball off us.

7.) 17 Jul 2017 19:28:39
Kroos is one of the best centre mids in the world and played really well under Mourinho. If there is any chance of getting him in the DDG transfer we should go all out for him. Kroos, Herrera and Pogba as a 3 would be scary.

8.) 17 Jul 2017 19:29:38
I said this at the beginning of the summer and got bashed by a few saying he can't play in a 3 man midfield.
For me he's the best in the business, I've watched him pick teams apart for Madrid. If it meant getting Matic too I'd do it. If a truley world class player becomes available to us we should get him in.g

9.) 17 Jul 2017 22:07:26
Kroos was playing in a 3 man midfield all last season with Modric and Casemiro and was brilliant.

10.) 17 Jul 2017 22:36:41
I'd buy both Kroos and Matic then sell Fellaini.

That would be a massive upgrade to the squad.



25 May 2017 19:09:59
Rumours that the three options for CB Lindelof, Keane or Van Djilk. Who do you guys feel would better suite.
For me it would be Van Djilk as I think he is a leader and would be great alongside Bailly. I Like Keane but worry it would be too soon, not seen any of Lindelof to judge.


1.) 25 May 2017 19:50:32
haven't seen lidlof either except on youtube since we have been linked with him. Vdijk looks good, fast, big and strong and seems to get his head on everything both ends of the pitch -out of those 3 he would be first choice. silly money of course.

2.) 25 May 2017 19:53:17
VVD is not worth the price, keane is not good enough to start for us, lindelof isn't much better but he has a high ceiling, would love a double swoop for semedo and lindelof.

3.) 25 May 2017 20:51:52
VVD out of the 3. He's one of the top 3 centre backs in the PL.

{Ed004's Note - It would be between Lindelof and Van Dijk for me. I'm edging towards Van Dijk because of his power in the air, physical attributes and being premiership proven. I think he could form a perfect partnership with Bailly. It would be nice to be a threat from set pieces again}

4.) 25 May 2017 21:58:58
None of the above.

5.) 25 May 2017 22:09:05
I think comes down to value for money. Keane should stay at Burnley for at another 18 months. He certainly has potential. Perhaps cut a deal with Burnley to buy him and then loan him back.
Lindelof is an unknown, just Like Bailly. I've see Youtube clips etc.
VVD looks very good and would compliment Bailly. He is as ED004 says prem proven. Keane isn't quite there yet. However if he plays well in the next two England games then his price will rise.

6.) 25 May 2017 22:02:38
Couldnt agree more ED004, over recent years we seem to have lost the threat of our CBs coming forward for corners ala Vidic, pally, bruce, rio, stam etc etc, fair play to smalling last night for his assist but we used to be a real threat in days gone by with our cbs.

{Ed004's Note - Maybe that's why by reports we seem to be looking at Dier ahead of Fabinho and the links with Van Dijk and Keane. Two of them along with Pogba and Bailly would give us good height}

7.) 25 May 2017 23:54:44
I would love Van Dijk but we may have competition for him, same goes for Fabinho. I don't see Tottenham selling any of their key players this summer, just my opinion.

8.) 26 May 2017 03:08:12
i would like to bring in alderweireld from spurs.

9.) 26 May 2017 05:37:25

When Spurs signed for £7million I thought why the hell didn't we try and buy him. He'd cost £50 million now. Bargain buy for Spurs. Top class CB.

10.) 26 May 2017 09:36:58
Thing is with Spurs, they brought in players like Alder, Alli, Wanyama for little money - but they play them every week. We sign players for 3X-5X that and keep them on the bench or play them sporadically.

We'd pay £25m for Keane and use him in rotation. We need nailed down 100% starters for the money we are going to undoubtedly spend, otherwise it's a Depay/ Martial/ Schneiderlin type waste.

Godin for me.

11.) 26 May 2017 09:44:27
If this is the CB's that we are looking to strengthen with then I am slightly disappointed. Personally, I would have liked to have seen a world class CB come in, someone like Bonucci. I know VVD is being touted as the next big thing, I don't know anything about the Swedish guy, Keane, I am not convinced is good enough either. I was hoping that if there is a deal for DDG to go to Madrid, that they would have had some clout to be able to try and sort out a deal for someone like Varane.

12.) 26 May 2017 09:46:03
Agree with Beast here, a consistent line up breeds success.

13.) 26 May 2017 11:17:23
If Jose is the master at one thing it's picking out defenders. Whoever we buy will fit in well. Perhaps Rojo has convinced him and Blind has looked very able there
too? We need one more to replace Smalling.

Keane or VVD for me please Jose. It's the full back positions where we need the serious investment and another midfielder to replace Carrick. I'll be well chuffed with Greizeman though!

If Keane re-joins, we just need to go back for Welbeck now to show just how clueless LVG was!

14.) 26 May 2017 12:40:49
I'll keep my answer simple enough.

Has to be Van Dijk, he's the best of the three.

15.) 26 May 2017 16:28:43
Agree Harry, before his injury he was the best CB in the prem. Would be a decent partner for Bailly for the next 7-8 years.



04 May 2017 13:32:01
Willian getting another link to us. It shows that we are likely to add an additional attacker as well as a striker. I for one would take him as he will fit straight into Jose system.


1.) 04 May 2017 14:49:54
I think there is a chance of this being true.

2.) 04 May 2017 18:14:13
I would welcome him if it wasnt silly money. Like a lot of fast attacking players he is one of those who can get you off your seat but also frustrate you when he beats 2 players and over hits a cross time and again- but in the main he has improved a lot at Chelsea and on his day is class - then again so was Nani but I've seen us linked with lesser players recently.

3.) 04 May 2017 22:23:11
Always good for a goal, great on set pieces and a player trusts. He was phenomenal last season for Chelsea.

Far better than any right sided option we have. Willian right, Mkhitaryan in the middle and Martial left is very likely behind Rashford or a new striker.

I don't think we will see a Griezmann and Belotti double buy. That's fantasy. Rashford is hugely impressive though right now and is doing all of the right things. You could easily envisage Griezmann playing off of Rashford with Ibra to come back into the fold when fit.

4.) 05 May 2017 16:33:46
I agree fresh. Personally wouldn't touch belotti at the prices quoted.



10 Apr 2017 22:05:43
Looks like Pogba is good mates with Lukaku. could he be using that friendship to bring him in next year?


1.) 11 Apr 2017 07:37:17
It might be the other way round ;)




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21 Apr 2021 08:00:48
What now for the future of the champions League, I imagine that change in some form will happen as whilst the 12 clubs will be condemned surely uefa will not want any form of this rearing up in the future. Also what will be the owner of these 12 clubs at the top table, will it be reduced and those that stayed given greater power or will the fear of losing them at least have them in the same position.
Bayern and PSG certainly look very good now in there decision making.
It feels like the Americans thought Europe would go for American NFL style approach.


1.) 21 Apr 2021 08:12:47
It shines a light on those owners prepared to do anything to make money and those who do it for success. We knew, or many of us knew but denial has been there about the Glazers on here and elsewhere for years.

2.) 21 Apr 2021 09:03:43
So why does everyone think the change of heart came about. On Monday the clubs were quite bullish, Tuesday and it all fell apart, was it purely fan power, the government, the media furore caught them off guard or the threat of expulsion from CL on Friday.

My cynical brain says City and Chelsea panicked about being kicked out of the CL on Friday, especially as both are only two games away from what would be Citys first CL and Chelsea's second win.

{Ed077's Note - Chelsea and City higher ups seemingly weren't fully clued up about the ins and outs of the whole deal and were a bit taken aback by the quick developments. Thus they werent fully onboard from the start and the fan and player outrage and the likelihood of getting kicked out from domestic comps wasn't what they were looking ahead to. So they were quite quick to decide against going through with it IMO.

3.) 21 Apr 2021 09:23:00
Grim there have been claims of misleading info from within clubs. Once the details emerged it was clear that no right thinking football person would want to be part of it.
United and Liverpool were never going to be 1st to leave as they were the main protagonists.
Statement from uefa welcominging the dirty dozen back into the fold. I don't expect sanctions.
I would imagine that the ceo's will need replacing in all the clubs or at least those that sat with the other epl chairs.
4 of the 6 clubs have apologised to their fans players and staff chelsea are preparing their apology and nothing yet from joel and Co.

4.) 21 Apr 2021 11:22:05
Never say yes on a deal without checking the consequences eh Ed.



04 Apr 2021 18:36:38
Not been a bad weekend with results going in our favour, let's hope we make the most of it by beating Brighton tonight.
Hopefully Pogba gets a full run and no Ill effects from international break.




26 Mar 2021 21:46:18
Has anyone watched James Garner whilst on loan at Forrest. Appears to be doing well and getting man of the match in several games.
We have previously compared him on here to Carrick and was thinking about the plan for him next season.

Initially my thoughts were another loan but a PL team who could bring him on further. However, watching Bellingham last night at 17 show such a commanding cameo and that he has performed well for Dortmund made me think we should maybe bring Garner back with a shout of at least being in the midfield rotation.
Class of 92 were given there chance so maybe next year OGS will be brave enough to give youth (Garner/ Dialo/ Greenwood) a real go especially as this seems to be our recruitment drive now as well.


1.) 26 Mar 2021 22:31:31
He is doing well at forest for sure Brad. i'd love to see him get a chance. He has been well regarded for years and is earning his stripes on loan.
Maybe he will get a chance to shine pre season with a few players getting back late from the euros.



14 Feb 2021 20:50:24
Yet another game where you have to question the team selections and substitutions.
West Brom were always likely to not give much room behind so thought the guile of Greenwood or even mata wide might have been a better option than martial/ Radhford to break them Down. I also don't understand why we are not looking more at Telles going forward as an option as our best crosser with Cavani in the middle.
OGS also seems scared to make changes when things are not working and just hopes to pull it out playing the same way (Fernandes distorting a stat that this works) .
One of the back 2 needs to be left out too, at this point I don't care which one. Play Tuanzebe/ Bailly as the second one and see what happens. We know the outcome of this pairing.


1.) 14 Feb 2021 21:30:00
Play Tuanzebe and Bailly. Perhaps they both should play against Sociedad on thursday.



12 Feb 2021 10:56:21
Was having a conversation last night with a few Utd friends about the goalkeeper position next year. It is interesting that there was no real concensus which I suppose highlights the issue currently.
De Gea has improved from last year but still seems fallable and does not command his box, is this partially down to the CB's? Henderson has not exactly shone when he has played but it is difficult to do this when you are just dropped in without getting a run. Much better distributer of the ball than De Gea and does come out for crosses.
The options we discussed for next year was:
1. Keep De Gea and sell Henderson
2. Keep Henderson and sell De Gea (we felt that the value would be similar)
3. Sell Henderson and De Gea and look to bring in Oblak (potential for a swap deal with De Gea going the other way + cash)

Interested to see what your thoughts are.


1.) 12 Feb 2021 11:13:42
Dave the Save has been awesome for the club and I think we have given him the time he deserved following a dip in form post World Cup to bounce back. He hasn't got anywhere near his top form where I believe he was the best in the world.

Sell De Gea in the Summer, bring in Henderson and let him grow into the role. De Gea was at a less developed stage than Henderson is now when he got the No.1 Jersey with Fergie so why can't Henderson progress to similar heights?

I for one would be disappointed to see Henderson leave without being given a full season at No.1 to prove he deserves the spot, and could be with us for the next 10 years!

2.) 12 Feb 2021 11:21:27
Interesting discussion.

Dave has been great for the majority of his time here but he's no longer amongst the best keepers in the world imo.

Our best teams have always had a top class keeper who will save and/ or earn you 10 points per season.

Unfortunately DDG is probably costing us that many this season.

He's on a ridiculous contract until 2023 so it may be a case similar to Maguire, where he needs to be upgraded but the money involved makes it very difficult or impossible.

His Mrs has always wanted to move back to Spain and he may do that eventually but who knows when.

3.) 12 Feb 2021 11:33:33
Interesting post.

DDG has clearly not been as good as he was a few years ago, when he was arguably the best in the world. But does that mean he’s finished?

Dean had a very good season with Sheffield United last season, but does that mean he’s ready?

If it were up to me I’d take the long term approach. We’ve got a lot of players who are yet to peak so going with Dean and letting him grow towards a peak with the likes of Marcus, Mason, etc. is the way I’d go, and hopefully Omit would yield similar results to when Rooney and Ronaldo started to mature together.

The trouble I see is DDG’s wages. Who would pay him what he’s on with us? It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

4.) 12 Feb 2021 11:47:02
Who will pay De Gea’s wages? Or Henderson’s? It would be very difficult to sell either in my opinion unless they were prepared to take a significant pay cut!

5.) 12 Feb 2021 12:26:07
The issue is that while DDG hasn't been terrible, it is clear he is declining.

So the question is how and when do you replace him. If you look to sign an established top level keeper entering their prime with 4-5 years experience at the highest level then you are going to have to throw a lot of money at that keeper to sign them. Jan Oblak is the obvious choice but he would cost upward of 70m. Even then there is no guarantee that he will adapt and be as good in the EPL which in Europe probably gives the least protection to keepers while demanding the most action from them.

Look at Chelsea, they spent 70m to sign Kepa, he looked good for a while but they now look stuck with him not performing and unable to shift him for probably even half of what they paid for him, and historically Chelsea have been pretty good at getting good fees for the players they sell.

So if we aren't going to spend big on a "proven" top level keeper then we will need to look for a project keeper, someone young who can be moulded and developed into a top keeper.

The issue here though is we have one in Henderson, a player who last season was arguably the best English keeper in the EPL, and looked ready for a fresh challenge to keep him developing. Yet this season he hasn't been given the chances he needs to stake a claim, even though DDG has continued to make mistakes costing us points.

So we either have to stick with DDG and sell Henderson (possibly with a buy back clause) or we twist and give Henderson the No.1 shirt.

Chelsea were interested in Henderson last summer before they signed Mendy, so that highlights that other top clubs in England rate him highly.

For me the problem with sticking with DDG for another couple of season's means we lose the future England No.1. Then in 2 years time we will either have to spend 70m on a proven top level keeper, or 30m on a younger one and then let them make the mistakes as they hopefully grow into a top keeper.

That is why I would give Henderson the shirt now, he will probably over the next season or two make as many mistakes as DDG, but at least he will be learning band growing from them hopefully becoming a top class keeper so that in a couple of years time when many of our outfield players are hitting their peaks we will have an established top level keeper behind them ready to push on and win titles.

6.) 12 Feb 2021 14:13:21
Play Henderson at center half, and dump McGuire.

7.) 12 Feb 2021 15:01:23
I must say we never really got into the current wages that they each get and that this would be a hindrence to anyone taking them but I guess this is the problem we are facing with a lot of our players at the minute. Great when we want to entice or keep them, awful when we want to sell.

For what it is worth we seemed to fall on the side of promoting Henderson and with a heavy heart letting De Gea leave (one of us was a very heavy heart as one of the last connections back to Sir Alex! ) . The drop off in the short term would be small if at all but the potential upside would be greater than sticking with De Gea.

Agree that we have issues elsewhere that money needs to be spent on to prevent a big splash on Oblak.




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11 May 2021 10:29:43
Was this straight out of Arsenal Fan TV! Send them Jones as a freebie extra and even give them an extra £5m for taking him.




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16 Apr 2021 10:40:23
In an ideal world Bailley would stay but if we are looking to bring in an additional CB then I think we should sell and generate some revenue. When he plays he offers that additional piece that Maguire lacks, however it appears that OGS does not have enough faith in him so it would be a waste to keep him.
A return to Spain could be a good move for him.
On Jones, another that appears to have had a career ruined by injuries. He never really kicked on from those first few seasons but showed bursts of what he could do (even in the HM role) . If he can get clear of injury a loan season to the championship would be the best considering no one would buy him or likely even loan him in the PL. Should he be able to show he can last a season and perfom we may be in a position like with Lingard where the asset is greater after the loan and could get a buyer then. If not then maybe buy out his contract and free up a space on the books.




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22 Mar 2021 10:30:27
Neto would be a quality addition for the future especially at the prices being quoted. My issue with this is that RW will probably be down the order for summer purchases considering our needs and the amount of money available. With Greenwood (unless he is moved to a striker role) and Diallo (progressing) I think we have that covered for this summer and could look in 2022 dependent on hpw these 2 do.




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09 Mar 2021 16:28:36
I don't proclaim to understand all the nuances around contracts but I always thought it was a 1 year deal with the option to extend for a further year and that the club could trigger that extra year.
Apologies if this is wrong and I have missunderstood how this works.
I have always liked Cavani and wished we had got him years ago, beast of a team player.


{Ed077's Note - I have really liked Cavani when he has played; but he has missed too many games and struggled to get an extended run to make a big difference on a consistent basis.



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11 Feb 2021 15:43:38
Great insight as always Ed002.
Ramos for me would be a disaster, I am not convinced that his antics and play away from Spain/ Real Madrid will work quite so well. He will miss certain games due to the amount of red cards he gets. Icon and great player for RM but i feel we need to pass.
Verane I would be interested in if he can stay fit, crazy to think he is only 27 as seems like he has been around forever. Whilst a right footer I believe he can play on the left side of the CB's which is the side we need to prioritise. Maybe a swap deal with Pogba as both are entering the end of their deals.
Of the other ones mentioned I think that Torres, Konate or Upamecano (probably headed to RM/ Bayern) should be where we look as a strong leader who could make the difference to the other CB that plays with them. Diaz and Van Dyke made such a huge difference to the whole unit and this is the type that we should be looking at.


{Ed002's Note - As I said, I am not aware of any interest in Ramos.}




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11 May 2021 10:37:49
I feel that Sancho is who OGS/ the club want and continue to want from last year, we seem to always be a year removed signing players from when we go in for them.
If we do get Sancho it will be interesting to see what then happens with Greenwood/ Diallo/ Martial, it could be that we are strong in depth and could rotate much more than we did this year. ALso, will depend on formation we move to (433 switching to 1 HM rather than the double pivot)




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11 May 2021 10:34:08
It is the perfect and sensible move especially when we have other holes to fill. It allows for Greenwood to develop another year and see how he is after another year learning from Cavani whilst we also have a top striker (all be it in the twilight of his career) .
We should know at the end of next year whether we have to go big on a striker of if Greenwood is the real deal, hopefully by then we will have plugged the other positions of need (CB/ HM/ RW) to allow next summer a big move if needed.




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08 May 2021 16:23:17
Imagine those 4 plsyers Ed014, if memory serves we were repeatedly looking at Fabhinho and Diaz so could be half way there already!


{Ed014's Note - well you’ve certainly had the money, just been let down by the recruiting, as all those players have been available.

Your first team, had they spent wisely, could and should have been something very special mate.



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06 May 2021 19:26:33
As much as I can't stand City I don't think there is any doubt that they have been the best and most consistent team this year.
They have skill and tough players across the pitch. Foden is starting to look a real quality player.




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26 Apr 2021 16:16:37
Ken, I can put my hand up as someone who has defended OGS due to the progression I could see (unfortunately the longer we go on the more I see this as more hope than what is actually happening from a playing perspective) .
One of the biggest issues I have is how pragmatically he has us set up, this comes from the double pivot to support the defence and also the lack of support for the attack from the full backs.
Secondly is his reluctance to make substitutions, the amount of games that they either don't come or come so late they appear to be just to waste time. He appears to have little faith in the bench (ironic when you consider he made a carear as the super sub) or fear that changes he makes will have a negative impact rather than positive.
I don't believe the club will make any changes at the end of the season and we can only hope that we can bring in some players that may change some of the mentality, DM that will allow us to play more aggressive and CB to comand the back line. On the statement about trophies, I think this is actual crap from him and a statement used to deflect to give him time. I believe that ultimately he does want to win trophies but the pragmatism he has will not put it out there for people to beat him with it.