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06 Aug 2017 17:50:53
Read somewhere that United want Sergi Roberto (personally I think it's bull news just made for the sake of selling papers) . But I just love the guy, so much talent and can play a couple of positions. Doesn't get the game time he wants at Barcelona but can't see him getting minutes at United either.

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1.) 07 Aug 2017 00:10:31
He was constantly played out of position at Barcelona is the press are to be believed 40m euros is far too much.


2.) 07 Aug 2017 12:49:53
Sounds like Barcelona trying to use Utd to get him sold.


 

 

31 May 2015 18:48:59
What happened to the young RB we have on loan to Real Madrid B. I think Varela was his name.

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13 Feb 2018 14:53:08
Most of the points have been covered by you guys, so I'm not going to talk about that. But when the season started a lot was said about our team average height and the physicality of the players. I can't remember a single goal we've scored from corners this season (I hope they have scored atleast 1). TBH I'm always concerned when we concede a corner. We've had no proper free kick taker for years. Maybe someone like mata scores once in a season. If my life depended on someone scoring a penalty, I won't pick anyone from United.

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1.) 13 Feb 2018 15:49:19
spot on mate. I think we are ok while attacking set pieces but the service has been poor. Same can't be said about defending set pieces and crosses from open play.

Game against huddersfield we were trying to play through the middle and it was clearly not working as we were slow to create anything which gave them time to organise easily ( this has been the case with most teams ) . in the second half as soon as the first cross came in from open play by mata, lukaku scored.

Not against playing through the middle as it now suits most of our players but having a striker like lukaku upfront its shocking we aren't trying to cross more through the wings.


 

 

08 Feb 2018 14:47:15
I hope Jose stays with us for a while, wins us a few trophies and brings back the winning mentality in the team. But when he goes, who according to you guys should take over and what approach should we have in regards to the managers. Should the club look for a long term manager like SAF or follow Bayern structure of freshening up the things every 2-3 years. For long term I haven't seen any manager like SAF who has stayed and won with the same club. Wenger has been here long but is nowhere near fergie. The pressure of winning is ofcourse too much on the managers these days and I don't see any manager being at helm for long and succeeding in the present scenario so for me changing managers regularly at intervals of 3-4 years and identifying them in advance and having backup plans ( like Bayern does ) . I've been very impressed by Nagelsmann and Tuchel and they have proved themselves in Bundesliga. Instead of going with the old guys I think we should be looking at managers with new ideas and hunger. The game has changed a lot and these younger guys with financial backing might take us to new heights.

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1.) 08 Feb 2018 15:17:44
Personally I think managers like Sir Alex are at best a once in a generation managers. I highly doubt we will see any manager approach anything like the longevity he had. For one thing you have to be continually successful to keep your job, which is very hard. The other issue however is most top managers will look for a new challenge after a few years. Pep for example doesn’t like staying at one club for a prolonged period. He seeks new challenges to test himself, which is why he is arguably the best there is at the moment. The moment he gets too comfortable and decides he isn’t fussed to try a new challenge will be the start of his decline.

I think the trick to having a continually successful club is to have a figurehead who maintains a consistent approach, while allowing fresh ideas to grow and for the club to adapt.

Sir Alex managed this over many years by consistently bringing in a new assistant who had new ideas and he allowed them a certain amount of freedom with the team while he maintained a strong grasp of the club by having the final say. It worked beautifully.

The issue when you keep chopping and changing managers while allowing them freedom to bring in the players they want is that when the leave the next manager is often left with players suited to a different style than they would like.

Case in point only two players Mourinho has signed have been shorter than 6ft, one of those Mkhitaryan has since left the club. Jose values physicality, where as LvG valued technique. Neither are wrong to have those opinions but it's hard to get a team playing the way you want when you don’t have the players suited to that style.

Likewise at a club our size with the sheer amount of off the field commitments and organising that goes on it can be very hard to find a manager up to the task of taking on such a juggernaut. We have a massive history and even bigger expectations from our supporters. As such you need a very thick skin, around 36 hours in a day and maybe a dozen pairs of hands to keep everything running up to standard.

It's a tough job, arguably the toughest in club football. Expectations maybe be as higher or even higher at other clubs, but at no other club are you expected to manage so many aspects of the football club while maintaining those standards and living up to expectation.

I feel the only way to go is to bring in a director of football, someone who can manage all the day to day off field activities, someone who can hire coaches who’s own vision is similar to that of the clubs, someone who understands football and what its like to be in the dressing room, but at the same time has no desire to manage the team and will allow the manager tactical freedom.

Then it’s no longer about trying to find a manager who can cope with the huge task of managing our club both on the field and off it, while also sharing the club’s ethos and style and having a proven track record. All you need is to find a manager with a similar style and ethos and who has proven themselves somewhat. Bring them in for 3-5 years then find someone fresh with new ideas to reinvigorate the team and to continue take the club forward while maintaining the clubs own identity.


2.) 08 Feb 2018 16:28:56
Managers come and go . Some do better than others.


3.) 08 Feb 2018 17:29:23
We had the long term and identity model with moyes and lvg but made a u-turn once mourinho became available for quick success (epl title)
Happy that mourinho has signed an extension which tells me he wants to win the title with us. However we will have to go through the rebuild phase again when he leaves regardless of if he wins the title or not.
Winning with mourinho will make it a little better and give us more time and patience to rebuild (especially our identity)
If things don't go well with mourinho i would like us to go for diego simeone, i feel his style is similar to mourinho and might be able to adapt to a more attacking style with better players and money.


4.) 08 Feb 2018 17:57:07
Mourinho does tend to favour older players. Matic and Sanchez for example are unlikely to be key players for the next manager if Mourinho sees out his contract.

However, we will still have players such as DDG, Bailly, Jones, Lindelof, Shaw, Pogba, Lingard, Martial, Rashford and Lukaku still in their prime. Plus we have youngsters such as Tuanzebe, TFM, Andreas Pereira, Chong and Gomes who might have made the jump by then to regular first team players. Which is a very good core, and that is before we add any more players this summer and in future transfer windows before Mourinho leaves.
I think on this occasion Mourinho will definitely leave the club in a better position than he found it.


5.) 08 Feb 2018 21:14:08
If we want flair and excitement go for Sarri from
Napoli but the job may be too colossal for him as with a lot of managers. If you just want success the best man is currently in charge.
While Pep is at city Mourinho is the best chance we have to challenge them. It may not be pretty but he’s done it before and the magnitude of Man Utd doesn’t phase him as much as it would a less experienced manager.


 

 

11 Jan 2018 13:52:33
Just now a couple of "journalists" have come out and said we've bid for Alexis. I don't know if it's true or not but do you guys think that some of these guys might be paid by betting agencies to post such rumours. Not all but maybe some of these so that the betting companies can make profit. Food reviewers do this a lot. If you're a mid level reviewer then restaurants call you and invite you for free food or maybe deliver it to you for good reviews. When you get to a higher level they offer you money instead. Same could go with transfers as well. If someone has got a large following on twitter and is usually well aware about these transfers, then these betting sites might be paying them to just throw in a name every now and then. Clubs usually don't deny transfer rumours (just look at the number of players linked with united every season ) so the journo's reputation remains intact.

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1.) 11 Jan 2018 14:01:59
You made some good points. But probably not, Arsenal are probably releasing the info to get a little more £ from Man City.


2.) 11 Jan 2018 14:26:07
sailor,

Betting sites don't need to do it mate, the press make enough stuff up for them to get plenty of money from silly punters.


3.) 11 Jan 2018 14:43:03
Be interested to get Ed02's take on the potential transfer and whether there's any truth to it and liklihood to it happening.

{Ed002's Note - On the basis of something that was discussed this morning, it seems likely that Manchester United are showing an interest in Sanchez but it is unlikely to be a straight cash offer they are putting forward.

As to whether it would happen, wages might be one issue and Sanchez is looking to leave to win championships etc.. Manchester City are better placed to offer a solution to both of those issues.}


4.) 11 Jan 2018 15:16:58
Thanks ed.


5.) 11 Jan 2018 15:58:53
Sailor

The " journalists" u are mentioning include gianluca Di Marzio, the most well connected, known and reliable journalist in Europe. Gives Ed002 a run for his money on inside knowledge.


6.) 11 Jan 2018 16:01:27
It’s all rigged if you ask me. United are in talk with so and so, bookies odds plummet to 1/10, people lump on, and low and behind two days later the odds are back to 10/1 and nothing else is said. I don’t understand how they get away with manipulating the market.


7.) 11 Jan 2018 16:42:58
GDS I believe that newspapers have lost their credibility when it comes to transfers. They are making up connections just to fill up the pages. And everyone realizes that. But when some well known journo makes such comments then everyone takes notice and in this internet age it reaches to you before the papers. I'm just saying there might be a possibility that some of them might be doing that.
Ed thanks for the info.


8.) 11 Jan 2018 17:00:38
Its probably another woody cockup. Joses said get me that guy from arsenal meaning ozil and woodys bid for Sanchez.


9.) 11 Jan 2018 18:00:27
Love it Mort . You must of read my mind 😆😆.


10.) 11 Jan 2018 18:41:51
I imagine woody going shopping is like a certain sketch by the 2 ronnies.


11.) 11 Jan 2018 20:02:46
I don't get it the ed just said today a few lines above utd have shown an interest, then comments about iffy reporters and betting companies making things up.


 

 

01 Nov 2017 17:29:43
Didn't get to see the match last night. But people who have seen Mctominay play can you guys tell how did he perform. What kind of a player is he? Who is he closer to in style of play, Matic, Herrera or someone else? Jose has been praising him.

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1.) 01 Nov 2017 18:50:50
Sailor. He was very tidy in possession and disciplined positionally. He made good runs into the box and that is something herrera has been missing so far this season.
Looks like a jose type player in nany regards. In style he is i would liken him to a young carrick when he was breaking through at west ham. He can only aspire to be as good as carrick but it would be a good target for him.
His game will develop as he gains experience its great for him at the moment it will be interesting to see if he gets game or bench time when pogba and fellaini return. He is certainly making the most of his chance. He is 20 so to be playing a cl game for man united is a massive vote of confidence by jose.


 

 

29 Oct 2017 22:01:44
I had written a post long back that we might never see the best of Mkhitaryan due to our playing style. This is not a dig at Mourinho. He wants his players working in a particular manner but it has to be his ( his scouts) incompetence that they thought Mkhitaryan would adapt to it. Players like him and Martial are not being given enough freedom and they in turn aren't adapting to his style.
I'm sure if Sterling and Jesus were playing for us they wouldn't be anywhere near the top scorers. Same goes for Martial and Mkhitaryan, if they were somewhere else they would be more dominant. What I think the next step should be is for the board to figure out how long they want Mourinho at the helm. If they want him for the next 4-5 years then it be best to move these guys on (and a few others) and build a team that mourinho wants. If they already have someone in mind to replace him in a couple of season then maybe loan Martial, Shaw out next season if the next manager wants them when he comes.

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1.) 29 Oct 2017 22:34:15
You know Martial scored the winner yesterday? I think he’s fine just where he is.

Sounds like an excuse for Miki to me, he’s been given a lot of freedom, yesterday we played with 3 centre backs and 2 defensive midfielders, how much more freedom does he need?


2.) 29 Oct 2017 22:47:40
Absolute tosh! They each need to knuckle down and play better.

AM has done this and his influence and work rate has increased. He is currently better impacting from the bench than from the start, but he is pushing Rash all the time.

Miki is going through a bad patch, the number of times he is losing the ball is simply unacceptable for the play maker in your team. He is not losing it going for high risk high reward passes, he is doing the simple stuff very badly. I think Pogba and Mata back in the team should help him, but he also needs to put some extra work in on the training ground.


3.) 29 Oct 2017 23:50:36
Sorry sailor disagree with everything you have said. Martial has stepped up considerably this year and is showing glimpses of the huge potential he has. I agreed with neville’s assessment yesterday that he is only playing at 85%. But why get rid when it will cost us £60+ to replace him for someone that may take just as long to settle and adapt to the team and the league? Let’s say for instance we get lemar, whose to say he will not perform more inconsistently than martial. Personally I am quite pleased with the impact and drive Tony has shied this season and he looks settled and ready to really push on because I believe he is up there with Mbappe and ousmane Dembele in terms of ‘potential’.

Onto miki, again very talented by I agree with dodgey that he gives that ball away far too much. Looks like he is struggling to do the basics properly and perhaps needs a spell on the bench. He is still our most creative player when fully firing so I think he will come out this rut and be ok. Throughout a season players drift in and out of form and I think we are experiencing this with several players such as lukaku, miki, mata. But I think once we get pogba back it will be a huge boost. Add Zlatan and Rojo to the mix with Fellaini as well and we should be firing on all cyclinders over a busy Xmas period where the title can be one and lost in the space of 3 games.


4.) 30 Oct 2017 00:15:06
Form or lack of it may be temporary but Mikki is a class act.


5.) 30 Oct 2017 11:45:19
I think you guys didn't get my point. I was saying that for me Martial is on level with Sterling and Jesus currently but still our style of play doesn't allow him to do what he's actually good at. That's why I made the point that Jesus and sterling in our team and style wouldn't be anywhere near top scorers. And I don't see him being utilized in the correct way under Jose. If we have long term plans for Jose then it just might be better for United as well as martial to move on.


6.) 30 Oct 2017 12:23:51
I got your point Sailor. Just disagree. Miki is not playing well. Not because of Jose, not because of Pogba, he is just not performing.

If he was getting no touches on the ball, and was isolated then I could see your point of view. Saturday he had the ball to feet with runners around him and gave it away with lame passes. It is poor form and he needs to address it.

JM is pushing both Martial and Rash by having them compete for one spot in the team. It is working well in my opinion, they are both pushing each other. Martial is doing the work and progressing all the time.


7.) 30 Oct 2017 13:45:38
I think its as simple as Mkhitaryan maybe isn't as good as we hoped. He struggled for much of last season and had a good patch of form in the latter stages of the Europa league, in the EPL he had flashes of brilliance but for the most part was very inconsistent. The difference is when Pogba and co were fit they stepped up to the mark more often than not. Now key players are out we are looking to players like Mkhitaryan to step up and he isn't. I don't think his form has dropped off, we are just noticing his inconsitencies more now.

I like him and I want him to be a success, I was over the moon when we signed him. But I just don't think he will be the player we were hoping he would be for us. He's been at the club for 15 months now, at his age he should be a key player by now.


8.) 30 Oct 2017 14:08:44
Dodgy, he was atrocious against Burnley, when he gets to start he has been disappointing. It's very frustrating as he has huge talent but I'm still seeing it this year. There is the odd flash here and there but nothing gconsistent or sustained. I think it's in his head.


9.) 30 Oct 2017 14:39:56
GDS2

Mhkitaryan has basically been given a “hall pass” by Mourinho.
If my wife did that to me, I’d be all over it ;) .

Maybe drop Mhkitaryan and play Mata. Problem solved. I think ED002 once mentioned that Mhkitaryan sulked from time to time or something to that effect.


10.) 31 Oct 2017 01:10:26
Something is obviously not right with Mikki at the moment but it may just be a case of him needing a long run so he gains confidence.


 

 

 

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13 Jan 2018 16:06:08
Well Ronnie don't mean to be rude but you might have named atleast 200 players by now. It might be difficult for United hierarchy to properly understand which one you want.

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04 Sep 2017 18:56:02
Just because we don't have Griezman doesn't make him better than Mkhi and Mata. We've waited whole of last season for Mkhitaryan to get familiar to the league and it doesn't make sense to shift him to the right for someone who isn't even at the club. Who knows what will happen till next summer. Maybe Monaco produce one more world class player and we go all out for him rather than Griezman.

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29 Aug 2017 13:19:13
It's a nearly done deal to City. All that is holding the transfer is Arsenal's last bit of self respect. Once they come up with how to face the fans, the deal will go through.

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28 Aug 2017 15:28:36
Is this confirmed news booger or just a rumour?

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27 Aug 2017 22:03:22
From what I know mbappe is going to PSG for €180m which has been halted by the UEFA for some reason so now they are trying for a loan with future buying.
So this will rule out move to Real.

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13 Feb 2018 22:01:33
Jred our confidence looks down, and mourinho is adamant on not playing as per the strength of the player and squad. Other teams are getting more gelled in with time as the season is progressing and we look like taking backward steps.

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13 Feb 2018 21:57:00
Was about to post the same thing. Works brilliantly in a 2 man midfield and just glides past players with his control. Never gets bullied off the ball. His only weakness are his through ball and long range passes and ofcourse his injuries.
Spurs today were a delight to watch. When Juve scored the second goal the only thing in my mind was spurs are going to get thrashed today. They put up great performance today and it made me happy as a premier league fan.

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13 Feb 2018 20:46:01
Some united fans point to our league position in every argument. They say we're 2nd and it's a big step forward. But it'll take only a couple of games for all that to change, we may be out of top 4. We already know that there are games against top teams where we will try for a draw. And in the bottom half of table there's some serious fight this year to avoid relegation so every team will be playing like Newcastle did against us.

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03 Feb 2018 22:16:23
Perfectly suits their style of play. And he was actually working today off the ball as well. With us he was just pathetic. With their passing style he is much more comfortable and now they've got Auba to complement him as well. With us he was everytime trying to run with the ball because there was no one for him to pass to. Alexis is much more suited to us, with his low centre of gravity he holds the ball much better and can get a foul from the opposition.

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27 Jan 2018 08:13:36
I thought he couldn't grow a beard. But now it looks like Mata has tough competition.

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