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07 May 2024 16:27:09
This is beyond a joke.

What was eTh even thinking with that lineup. And granted we have some injuries but we also have some youth players that should be getting a look.

First off, Palace are big and fast up front, so what does he do he puts in Casse and Evans (the only two players in the Premier that I can outrun.

Second let's put Ericksen in with Mainoo, watching on tv I couldn't see him most matches leaving Koobie in the middle to defend for himself.

Third I know they announced and listed Anthony as a starter but I don't remember seeing him at all.

Sorry but this is getting unwatchable for me. ETH has to go. You can see the players aren't putting in any effort for the manager. And the players he has signed and brought in are not very good at all.

07 May 2024 17:10:25
Just out of interest, what team would you have started?

07 May 2024 18:23:53
For me it's not necessarily down the the line up more the setup of them. ETH likes to complain recently there's lots of injuries we're even missing a entire first choice back 4 as he likes to point out, so why aren't you supporting the players your being forced into playing.

You've got a DM at CB the only other "fit" CB is 36 and didn't expect to play much this season, not only that he supposedly failed a fitness test for the game, so naturally you tell your midfield to drop a little deeper and support the defence help.

Not united 2 high 8s 1 cm to cover.

Ok but at least you tell your full backs to sit a bit more don't push them on, don't commit too early, focus on defending first.

Not united push them up high or invert then into midfield.

Ok but you keep your wingers wide give the defence out balls again encourage them to focus on helping the fullbacks and defending.

Nope not with ten hag stay high and come inside.

Wait into that area we've already commited those 2 high 8s? I'm sure there's plenty of space there right? better to leave the full back and winger to our full back. but wait who's that besides you. the midfielder will help. wait he's on the other side. Don't worry we have fast mobile center backs. wait it's Casemiro and evans or maybe at best Maguire.

You can't complain about injuries if you aren't going to change the tactics to cover for those issues. unwillingness to change is what is costing ten hag this season, he refuses to adapt to any issues either in the system or altering it based on injuries to cover shortfalls.

07 May 2024 18:52:29
Ports, you beat me to asking the exact same question. Everyone is an expert after a loss.

07 May 2024 20:06:15
He could not tell you because half the side is pretty much in the physio room. 5 academy players, two goalies and ambrabat and amad on the bench. It picked itself, they were pretty poor across the board with a few exeptions.

07 May 2024 13:51:58
Did anyone really expect anything better last night? We have one semi retired CB. In midfield we have a kid of whom too much is being asked and a player who has been out injured all year and would take time to get back to top form even in a settled team. Up front we have 2 youngsters and an inadequate right winger. Under such circumstances any manager would be struggling to avoid relegation if the situation were to persist for a whole season.

The big question is why are we so beset by injuries, so many of which seem to occur in training. Clearly something is very wrong. Whatever it is ETH is at the heart of it, so even though he really cannot be blamed for failing to win games with the resources he now has at his disposal, I really don't see how he survives. Given that he may as well go now. It won't change the cup final outcome.

07 May 2024 14:14:08
Yes. I expected better tactics. ETH's are beyond fathomable. They never seem to change regardless of opposition, competition, state of the game, or injuries. I don't care who is playing DM. It could be a goalkeeper for all I care. It takes next to nothing to tell whoever it is to protect the back four. Nobody did that last night. We are so open. So wide and stretched vertically. Good teams stay compact and move as a unit around the pitch. They press as one or block deep as one. I have never, ever seen this United side do that. It's football 101. ETH is still on page 23.

07 May 2024 14:21:26
We were crap in the opening games with a full team. Well without Hojlund, but being honest in this system there’s zero point having a striker when we don’t even try and create chances for him.

I expect the manager to change his tactics and play with some form of a structure that’ll help defensively. If he can only play football with Martinez at centre back, then he’s incredibly limited as a manager.

07 May 2024 14:47:04
Yes I expected better with 9 of eth's players starting only 2 players playing out of position.
If we had everyone available there would have been 2 or 3 player changes and 1 positional change.

07 May 2024 15:42:41
Not true tumble.

Fernandes, rashford, shaw, martinez, varane would all start.

Cassemiro would play CDM.

Mainoo would play 8.

07 May 2024 16:00:22
Varane is leaving he would be starting.
I dispute rashford as an automatic. You yourself have said he shouldn't start.
So 3 changes Shaw martinez mount
1 position change casimero to midfield.
Mainoo did not play as a 6 last night.

07 May 2024 16:44:36
He also gave the players an out by using the injuries as an excuse. I don't think utd should ever be hiding behind injuries or any other excuse.

07 May 2024 20:11:44
Side is missing 5 starters and even the next in line in some positions are not healthy. its a hospital pass of a lineup atm.

Shaw, martinez, varrane, fernandes, rashford. malacia, maguire, Mc out too as second options. slim pickings atm. Sad state of affairs when a 36 year old who was not fit had to play.

07 May 2024 07:48:49
I'm not saying he should be sacked but does anyone seriously know how the training is conducted. I mean he wants to play a system but hasn't had players available to him to play it, so what does training look like. Is he training a system with players who can't play it hoping it will click and then the injured slotting back in when available. Its just that his "preferred" players have been out a long time now so how do they train for this system with players that clearly don't get it or can't play it.

07 May 2024 09:52:48
Banjoe it didn't matter whether people want him sacked or not.
Eth will not be here next season. He knows it and he has for some time.

07 May 2024 09:54:09
He should get the sack Banjoe. The dross that’s being served up week in week out is indefensible. The players have downed tools, no doubt about that. The injury list is like nothing we’ve seen in a long time but ultimately it comes down to the coaches and how the team is set up.
Up until last night I thought Ten Hag might just escape the boot by the skin of his teeth but last night was the final straw for me.

07 May 2024 10:11:35
Who's told him that ken? How does he know?

07 May 2024 10:16:38
The players haven't downed tools they don't have the tools in the first place.

07 May 2024 10:29:50
They have a tool of a manager🤣.

07 May 2024 10:36:28
Last night was Watford all over again. If INEOS and SJR are serious about getting this club moving forward, I personally feel like they need to come out with a statement on the manager now, he stays or he leaves. Don't see how all the uncertainty is helping.

07 May 2024 10:49:15
Ports they can't at this time. Just need to be patient.

07 May 2024 11:17:16
Why can’t they Ken? Finances?

07 May 2024 11:28:50
Yeah, I’m not sure why they can’t? Bayern did with Tuchel?

07 May 2024 11:30:34
Would they sack a manager before a cup final? If that's the route they go down it will be after the final whistle, van Gaal style.
Anyone else spit their drink out when Carragher suggested bringing in Ole for the final three games?

07 May 2024 11:35:18
Yes Tim that's a large part of the reason I'm sure.
I'm not privy to his contact details but a new financial year starts 1st July they can't take the financial hit on this year's books due to psr.
4 games to go. It's not too long to wait.

07 May 2024 12:05:24
Feels like an eternity. It’s going to a painful 4 games I’m sure.

07 May 2024 18:17:05
Just as I thought ken 😄 😄.

07 May 2024 06:49:09
All of the talk about last nights game will be about how poor casemerio and the rest were etc but feck me onana was just diabolical.

Bet at his near post for the second, the ball literally went into the middle of the goal for their 4th and him diving at full stretch coming for the other side. He looked like a guy on the way home from a night out with a kebab for their shot off the post at the end staggering to his feet

With every passing game I can't for the life of me understand how we got rid of de gea and "upgraded" with onana. He plays out from the back?! . he lumps the ball forward at every opportunity its a complete joke.


Yes de gea had his faults but there is no doubt if we still had him this season we would have got out of our group for the champions league and we would have a few more points on the board in the league.

Whatever happens next season with a new manager or not if we persist with onana as no.1 God help us.

07 May 2024 08:27:42
He’s the worst keeper I’ve seen be the number 1 choice since Tim Howard.

That shot near the end against the post summed him up.

07 May 2024 09:19:55
The pace of the shot took it past him for the first one near post no chance saving that

But let’s face it the defending was shocking

Think the 2nd goal he was unsighted but should have done better

But that defence regardless of missing cbs is awful

The worst defence we have had in my lifetime watching united.

07 May 2024 09:59:44
Awful goalkeeper. Simply awful.
A total clown with banana hands.
Lacking in so many of the fundamentals for this league and level.
47m absolute shambles.
Another of the managers hand picks along with Anthony mount ericksen amrabat.
Dope of a keeper dope of a manager.

07 May 2024 10:43:05
Bolger, shouldn’t near post be one of the hardest places to score? I remember the old saying of you should never be beaten at the near post.

I’m no keeping expert, but to me it seems he gambles on shots before the ball is struck. Teams have spotted what he struggles with.

I appreciate we give him far too much to do, but if we were going to set up this way defensively then we may as well have kept de gea or signed a keeper who’s more of a classic shot stopper.

06 May 2024 23:11:16
Ten Hag: "This is the fourth defeat in this calendar year, so that's not a lot and every time, we had huge problems. "

I'm not sure what to say on that.

07 May 2024 05:06:31
What do you want him to say Tim? We had no centrebacks. appartently evans failed a late fitness test and still played - sacrificing himself. Cas was terrible, but playing at CB. Wan bissska awful, but at leftback.

Onana was woeful tonight, and ten hag pushed for him. He was very good last year, been poor this while season.

If you didn't think we could lose tonight then you haven't paid CP enough respect recently. Check their results against good sides. They can defend well, and very dangerous on the break.

Just need this season to end and hopefully some of theee players leave and fresh ideas and effort shows up next year.

07 May 2024 06:55:30
It's not just CP Dodgy, at this stage any team can really score 4 or more goals against us. We are really this poor.

07 May 2024 07:18:43
I’m not sure Tim, you said yourself that you weren’t expecting anything. That’s sensible given the selection of players available for an away trip to a side playing really well.

My main disappointment is the scoreline, we shouldn’t be shipping 4 regardless of who plays. But when you look at Casemiro you can understand why. He’s gone from hero to zero in 12 months. That flop he did for the first goal was an embarrassment. What was he doing?

Evans shouldn’t get a free pass either for that poor attempt of a tackle on Mateta.

Wan Bissaka. I’ve made my thoughts on him clear enough. Nothing personal against the lad. He is a very poor footballer who can’t play right back let alone left back. He has zero technique and is very poor positionally, constantly playing people onside or getting caught out of position. Another head scratcher from the scouts.

07 May 2024 09:04:49
Wazza, it’s the total lack of desire and commitment that annoys me. Also surely we can set up in some way to at least be competitive?! Injuries are bad but surely there’s more can be done by the coaching staff and especially the players.

07 May 2024 10:52:42
Wazza eth played 9 of his signings / players he promoted last night. We played 2 players out of position. This is eth's team the players he brought in.

07 May 2024 12:37:48
With an injured Evan's and cassemiro at CB, wan Bissaka at LB, Eriksen CM. Not sure why everyone is surprised, that was a tough game with a fit squad.