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18 Dec 2018 09:57:21
It has happened!

Ed002, are you as surprised as I am?
And I understand you were more in the Jose Camp then in the Club Camp, but do you know whether there is a plan or whether it was panic?
And if so is the plan going to be beneficial or is it just going to be more of what we have seen since SAF left and Woodward came in?

Thank you for your insight.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - I am not surprised he has gone but in terms of a plan it would not be a surprise to see the club wait until the end of the season before there is a permanent replacement, unless a move for someone like Zidane strikes them as a sensible idea. Zidane would be far more suited to a Director of Football role in mainland Europe. I will see if there is anything in the background that I can find out. Timing wise there are a couple of jobs that might be suitable for Mr Mourinho after a little break.}


1.) 18 Dec 2018 10:28:17
Inter milan would be a good fit for him next season. The club where he probably had his most successful spell and got on with the most.

{Ed002's Note - Right.}


2.) 18 Dec 2018 10:30:05
I wonder if ZZ comes in until the end of the season then they move him to DoF and appoint a new manager then?

{Ed002's Note - Why? His English is poor, he has no Premier League experience and there are better options available.}


3.) 18 Dec 2018 10:38:54
"His English is poor, he has no Premier League experience and there are better options available". Well sounds like the perfect candidate for United bosses.


4.) 18 Dec 2018 10:47:51
Hi ed002.
I tend to agree with you there must be better options available.
Who do you think those better options are?

{Ed002's Note - It is really the same as I have said before, but I would not try and separate it from the Director of Football issue. And the club need to be very clear going forward, they cannot employ someone that they don't completely trust or have confidence in - and that was the case with Mourinho and a couple of people from day one did not want him at the club.

The wildcard but best option for me is Laurent Blanc. Laurent is available, knows the club and has the perfect skill set. There are numerous other coaches who could do the job perfectly well but the club will have to think about availability, cost, desire etc.. They also need to think about the level of risk there would be involved. It is easy to argue that Max Allegri could do a good job, but he is already at Juventus and has been messed around in the past by Manchester United and turning down Real Madrid shows he is not looking to move. Carlo Ancelotti could do a fine job but his has just joined Napoli. Antonio Conte has had repeated success and could do a good job but may not be interested in a return to England and there are others already looking at him and a couple have spoken with Chelsea - but I would certainly not rule him out, and he would bring discipline. Pochettino would be of interest but perhaps not available. Simeone has been taking English lessons for three years and could do the job - but I am pretty sure would not be interested.

I would say putting the likes of Giggs, Butt or Carrick in charge on a full time basis would be a disaster and will end in tears. Perhaps the club would do better simply to put Woodward in charge of the team?}


5.) 18 Dec 2018 10:48:10
I think Ed Woodward told Jose he wanted top 4 by end of the year and Jose then made that statement last month. Jose has wanted out and seemed to have used the same exit plan he did at Chelsea. that's my opinion.


6.) 18 Dec 2018 10:55:19
Ed, you say better options available, is it for the post of the manager or DOF.

Who would you pick, if you had to?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - See above.}


7.) 18 Dec 2018 11:00:41
Don't know why fans would want Zidane, he has quite a defensive style like Mourinho did.


8.) 18 Dec 2018 11:14:23
Thanks ed002. I said in aug i thought jose should have resigned in Aug when the window closed. He was not aligned with the board on too issues.


9.) 18 Dec 2018 11:15:03
ed do you see Blanc as a interim manager or permanent? from what we are being told by the media the club will be going with an interim appointment.

{Ed002's Note - If the club do the sensible thing he would be given the job and the backing full time.}


10.) 18 Dec 2018 11:55:06
But the question is, who has the power to sack Ed Woodward? This has all the hallmarks of Liverpool’s desperation to end the longevity without success and only now 30 years later showing the signs of proper title credentials. Too vague a plan, bad leadership at the top and spending in the wrong areas at the wrong time. The club needs proper direction before any true success will be achieved again. Blanc may aid with some sort of stability, if hovering around 7th to 4th is acceptable, but then it’s a poisoned chalice for whomever takes charge. Good luck guys, your going to need it.


11.) 18 Dec 2018 12:59:48
I think Conte would be a good appointment if he is given full backing. He certainly seems someone who can bring discipline and has a very good track record. He succeeded at Juve and Chelsea, knows the language, the league but does he want to manage in England.

Also ed, does this bring forward the hiring of DoF or pushes it further back (if it is even possible for you to answer) . As an outsider looking in, our club doesn't seem to have the structure to succeed so I don't think any managerial change is going to bring too much long term success, and eventually result in regression only.

{Ed002's Note - Conte would needed to be persuaded back to England and there are two other sides keen, one of which has very recently spoken with Chelsea whilst in Milan. Conte knows this so I would think it less likely for now. It makes no conceptual difference in respect of the DoF - as I have said before it is an important role for the club to fill and he or she needs to bele to work with whichever manager is in charge.}


12.) 18 Dec 2018 15:14:38
But ed2 wouldn't it be better for the club if the DOF chooses/ recruites the permanent manager. Whatever may happen, the fact that the club has been unable to appoint a competent DOF for more than 2 years for whatever reasons might they be means something significant is wrong at our club.
I remember one of the eds (probably ed2) mentioning that the manager role at our club was veiwed as poison chalice by some. Maybe same goes for DoF who knows.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not how it happens.}


 

 

12 Sep 2018 12:19:12
Hi Ed’s and anyone else in the know.
Are we seriously in for the director football from athletico?
Sounds we are looking to appoint a defensiv minded DOF to go along with our last three defensive minded managers.
What’s going on in the club?
Thx an advance.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - Andrea Berta was the Director of Football chosen as the desired choice of Mr Mourinho in 2016. I cannot answer the "seriously in for" aspects of your question but the club are looking for a Director of Football and Berta was one of the two that Mr Mourinho was comfortable with but he has since then been promoted from his position as Technical Director to the co-ordination role of Director of Football which might well suit Woodward but would not address the true problem the club has. If appointed to a similar role at MU it would be another major mistake.}


1.) 12 Sep 2018 12:54:24
Thank you Ed.

What is the major problem at the club?
Wrong people making footballing Decisions? If so who are making the decisions?
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - We have been through this ad nauseum Jonny.}


2.) 12 Sep 2018 13:19:54
I’ll try my luck on the research then.
Thanks for the reply.


3.) 14 Sep 2018 23:11:28
What's so special about Berta?


4.) 17 Sep 2018 09:09:06
My guess is he’s played a very key role in atleticos recent success missingfergie.


 

 

23 Jul 2018 19:08:22
Hey Ed002,

Is there any legs to the rumour that Marquinhos agent approached United whether interest still exists?

Could be the CB for both Jose and the board to agree upon.
Enough seasons under his belt to appeal to Jose, possibly and still young enough for the board to hope for rising value.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - It would be reasonable to assume Bertolucci has after talking to at least two other sides, one English, about the player.}


 

 

30 Apr 2018 12:52:15
Hi Eds,

Any truth in the rumors Buvacs is leaving Liverpool and Klopp in anger?

He would be a great addition to our backroom.

Someone mentioned the idea of getting another assistant for Mourinho, as Fergie did so often, to keep him tactically up to date.

Can’t see it happen for multiple reasons unfortunately.

Thanks in advance.

Jonny8

{Ed001's Note - bit early to say, things might be resolved yet.}


1.) 30 Apr 2018 13:34:23
Apparently Klopp's assistant is off, the plot thickens.


2.) 01 May 2018 16:15:18
Talk that he's Wenger replacement.


 

 

08 Nov 2017 21:28:10
Hi Eds
Is there anything in the Mourinho to PSG rumours?
Or is it just tactic from him to get money out of the board for strengthening in January opposed to having to sell first?
Thank you very much in advance.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - He needs to look at options available and going forward - PSG is an interesting one. I don't want to become embroiled in any discussions but you have to consider that MU is a difficult club to manage both internally and externally.}


1.) 09 Nov 2017 01:41:18
Ed002 i am sorry if i didn't understand (because of my English) but what do you mean by saying he needs to look at options? The club will force him to move so he need that change in his career or is the problems with the place and his family who aren't with him?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that the club are forcing anything.}


2.) 09 Nov 2017 06:44:35
Hi Ed002,
What you say makes sense, however it was only 6 weeks ago or so that’s JM was saying how he hoped to be at United for many many years. Is it really a case of now the title is looking less likely this season, he is reconsidering his future? Of course we all ‘do have a look at the menu even if we are on a diet’, is it just simply a case of this? I had hoped JM would be with us for certainly another few years yet.
Thanks as always.

{Ed002's Note - I would not pay too much attention to what JM says.}


3.) 09 Nov 2017 08:16:28
Ed is the difficulty due to the size and image of the club - which attracts the focus they get form the press / media / fans or is it because of the way the club is run - the board, no tech. director, etc.
One is a consequence of success whereas the other is a much bigger problem.

{Ed002's Note - No. I explained soon after he joined what the issue was.}


4.) 09 Nov 2017 12:50:36
Mourinho hasn't got the backing of the entire board. Ed002 mentioned that there was a split within the club about whether Mourinho was the right man to manage our club.

His recent comments about him needing to be backed are testament to his feeling/ knowledge that he wasn't unanimously wanted by the board.

He wanted us to sign at least four players in the summer, Lindelof, Lukaku and Matic came in. We chased Perisic and Griezmann to no avail.

Maybe Mourinho feels if he had the full backing of the board then maybe he would have an extra new player or two which would make his life much easier. Especially at the moment when we have had a few injuries and some sections of the fans have turned on him a bit due to results and performances.

Jose above everything else has to feel loved, if he doesn't then he has a tendency to sulk, that tends to turn inward and he self destructs ending with him leaving the club.

At this time unless thing change quickly I doubt Jose will be our manger at the start of next season.


5.) 09 Nov 2017 14:44:08
He is quick to throw his toys out the pram. To be fair to him he wants a top centre half, winger, full back, and a new manager coming in tomorrow would want a top centre half, winger and full back- Griezemann was no ones fault, Varane and marquinhos weren't for sale and i don't know about full backs, so the guy has to be realistic on what the club can get, they have backed him well so far -even Ibra got to stay!

Its all subjective but Blind/ Darmian/ smalling/ Rojo/ young/ Shaw/ fellani could have all been moved on in the summer, but you can't sell injured players, and you can't sell players who are covering for injured players (ie blind) so it could all have been different . The guy should man up and get on with it, the club has its problems but it still should be an honour to manage it, to have your name along side Busby, SAF - for all his faults LVG felt that way about the club.


6.) 10 Nov 2017 02:59:08
So Jose expects to be bigger than the club, in a nutshell?!

Every manager at every club in world football could point to their team and say "we could improve here", they all want MOAR! Fact is we don't know exactly what has been discussed behind the scenes. I do know that Jose has been backed with mega money both summers, he is paid mega money himself, he is living in a hotel (STILL), his agent or he is flirting with other clubs, he looks miserable most weeks, we play in a way that reflects the managers outward demeanor.

He hasn't lasted long at any club before there is infighting. I'd let the spoiled kid take his out-dated ball back to his house. How can a club like ours be seen to be treading on eggshells for this guy beggars belief - cut him loose, he's the managerial equivalent of a 'footballers wife', nothing is ever good enough, everyone is to blame but himself if things go South and my God he will bleed you dry financially and emotionally as he spreads his toxicity and leaves you in the lurch!

We wanted Jose of 10 years ago, like we wanted LVG of 20 years ago. It could have worked, it didn't, move on to the next contender until we get it bang on.


7.) 10 Nov 2017 21:21:36
It didn't work Beast, didn't we win two cups last year, we are still second in the table despite going through a rough patch since the international break and suddenly you want to ditch him. Who else is out there that can manage us? Sometimes I think you underestimate the task of managing a club like United, have we become as bad Real Madrid where some of the fans want to sack Zidane after back to back Champions League wins just because they are 3rd this year.
Maybe supporting a football team isn't for people like you, maybe you should look for another pastime.


 

 

 

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18 Oct 2020 13:03:20
seeing the start of the season so far, what do you guys the winning points total will be?

City seem to be unstable, I can't see Everton keep this kind of form up all season and even Liverpool (who I was expecting to run away with it as they had a huge summer break and strengthened amazingly) are sketchy and possibly without van Dijk for most of the season.

It seems to be shaping to be an even stranger season then expected.

I'd guess the winning total will be around 85 points, probably still out of reach for us, but it'll definitely be interesting. Maybe another season like Leicester winning it?

Jonny8

1.) 18 Oct 2020 13:43:03
This season was always going to be disjointed. A shortened summer, lack of pre-season, players having to sporadically isolate and there being no fans in stadiums.

This was never going to be an average season.


2.) 18 Oct 2020 13:43:08
If I were a Spurs fan, I would be cautiously get optimistic.


3.) 18 Oct 2020 14:28:09
I would give a possibility at Spurs if they don't have injuries. But they can't be optimistic with Kane and Bale because every year they have injuries. They could be in the mix.


4.) 18 Oct 2020 17:34:34
The year ends in a 1 so I’d imagine spurs fans are optimistic anyway!


 

 

13 Oct 2020 06:56:41
Words of Atalanta‘s president:
“This leads to the growth of the club and enriches the work of everyone, from the general manager, Umberto Marino, to the entire staff. ”
“A few days after the Youth League game against Manchester City, the other Manchester contacted us. They had followed him, the real negotiation started. We went twice to England. ”
“The text of the final agreement is a contractual masterpiece. ”
“The professionals involved in the operation are of a high level. In terms of negotiations, we have learned a lot. And it is above all thanks to Luca’s work that we arrived at the final figures. ”

Finally someone that appreciates Matt Judges work 😂
Too bad it’s from across the table.

Jonny8

1.) 13 Oct 2020 17:40:05
No disrespect to the kid hope he turns out amazing, but we just spent €40m on an 18 year old with 25 minutes of first team experience. It's no surprise they appreciate his work. 😂.


 

 

16 Sep 2020 09:35:57
Dear Ed002, thanks for your input, ..................

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page - this is the Manchester United page.}


 

 

25 Aug 2020 12:16:13
First off thank you very much Ed002 for the information you offered and shame on the idiots spoiling it for everyone for needlessly attacking Ed for it!
Hope it was our very own "fans" and not some rivals

But now I'd like to use the moment to put a spotlight on the clubs behaviour sind the start of the C.V.
We can all argue about us being amateurish or foolish or whatever in the transfer market but I'd like to highlight how the club has acted amid sinking revenues etc.

Having the biggest stadium we have been hit hardest by the shutout and still we have not (please correct me) cut salaries of our employees, haven't put anyone out of their job, haven't furloughed anyone, have refunded the season ticket holders and done the right thing with our departing youth trainers by paying them an extra two months even though their contract have ended in June!
Please take a look around how the other big clubs have acted and recognize the great example we have set.

I take my hat to Ed Woodward and the Glazers and they have won a lot of respect from me for all this.

They could have gone down the same road as the others and tried to cut costs and subsequently loose less of their own money but decided to do right to their staff, even the ones not deemed got enough to stay on after June!

This can't be underestimated in my book and if this has cost us the Sancho transfer then so be it.
I'm proud of the club for acting like this and showing such a big heart amid the current crisis!

Well done and thank you for being a bright example and putting some of our rivals to shame with it

P. S. : thanks Eds for the great effort to put this site together and keep it running and even constantly improving it.

Jonny8

1.) 25 Aug 2020 12:39:59
Great post Jonny.


2.) 25 Aug 2020 12:54:57
Jonny

I wonder if the Glazers will not take dividends next time to enable the money to go towards player purchases?


3.) 25 Aug 2020 13:22:00
Jonny what a refreshing post.


4.) 25 Aug 2020 14:25:54
Stop being so upbeat Jonny. That’s not allowed here.


 

 

07 Jul 2020 11:33:51
Hey Ed,

Is Alaba of interest to us?
Would we be of interest to him on current form and after the Schweinsteiger debacle?

Could be the perfect partner for Maguire in the back.

What does everyone think of him?

Thanks.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

 

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18 Oct 2020 12:48:37
why not be proactive for once and offer Pogba to Real in exchange for Rafael Varane in January or next summer. Both at the same age and the same contract length, should be a decent offer from our side.

We could cut some 30 million quid from our annual budget (13 million wages plus at least 19 million amortization from the fee paid to Juventus, not even accounting for agent fees etc. as I don't know whether they are deducted over the contracting period or as a one off) and thus make room for new signings.

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05 Oct 2020 20:35:59
😂 Maybe we can send our coaches.

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05 Oct 2020 20:05:05
So was United desperate or Cavani then, TRD?

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29 Sep 2020 20:11:36
Figured so already.
There was a glimmer of hope when I read the jovic fir pogba rumour.
Thanks for waking me so gently 😂.

Jonny8

 

 

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29 Sep 2020 16:54:46
Hey Ed.
Any truth in the rumours of a Late push for Pogba from Real Madrid?

Could we turn to a part exchange with Jovic and then sign Saul?

A lot of negotiations to be done in a week though.

Thanks for your input.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - No Jonny. You have drifted in to some fantasy world.}


 

 

 

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28 Oct 2020 14:34:21
It will be interesting in watching a club with a plan.

And even more intriguing is the fact that Ralf Rangnick, the architect of the whole Red Bull football globe, is free to be hired at the moment.

He would transform our club, but it’s a no-go as he would only sign after being given a free hand on all things football related.

But just imagine what he could do with our financial clout 🤯.

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27 Oct 2020 11:19:09
I feel we have a recruitment dilemma here, once more.

I can see Donny play the Mata role to great effect, linking with Bruno and arriving in the box to complement Martial/ Cavani.

Unfortunately we only have competent wingers on the left flank, an attacking left back while we have a strong defensive right back.
It would be best to have an attacking fullback behind Donny/ Mata to provide width whenever they move infield or up to link play or try to finish the move.

So having a strong defensive left back and an attacking right back would go great with Donny/ Mata on the right and Rashford on the left.

Or having Telles on the left behind Donny (even better as he’s right footed) and a strong winger on the right to provide width there, while Aaron holds the back together with our CBs would be a fine attacking system in my eyes.

Unfortunately we only have strong attackers on the left hand side, so it doesn’t add up.

Possibly I simply don’t have a clue and the recruitment actually had a plan as it is and I simply don’t see it.

Jonny8

{Ed002's Note - Mata has played the majority of his games for MU as a RW and can also play as an AM - but that is the role of Fernandes. DvdB is a very, very capable CM player and that is where he should be played. The problem is that the club needed to move Pogba on but they didn't. They should have added a more versatile player for the left - Grealish was on interest but the amateurs spent the summer stumbling around making fools of themselves. There needs to be some significant changes - but playing DvdB out of position is not a solution. The club should be building around him and looking to bring players through.}


 

 

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23 Oct 2020 20:29:04
Issue with all of this is width.
All of your formations are narrow by nature.
And Old Trafford is a massive pitch.

So it sounds good on paper and might make sense with the players we have, but it certainly isn’t making use of our pitch 🤕.

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23 Oct 2020 07:08:31
We have an open spot for a strong and mobile DM at the moment, could actually have given Jones another shot at It.
Guess that shipped has sailed now though.

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19 Oct 2020 11:48:37
I see James as a player comparable to Mata, and we already have Mata.

And we wouldn't be able to give him the platform he has at Everton, our defensive midfield simply isn't as stable as Evertons.

I think Everton had a great transfer summer, smart signings that seem to fit a larger plan.

Jonny8