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17 May 2017 08:37:27
Haven't been on here that long and I pick up the eds and the posters find a lot of sources as very dubious and not reliable but a couple mentioning bale may like a return to England and would prefer a move to utd over Chelsea, anything in this or twaddle .


{Ed001's Note - according to those that know the lad very well, family, friends and former and current coaches of his, at least the ones I have managed to speak to, they all say he has no interest in leaving Spain and is really happy there. Unless Madrid want rid, which I have not heard of any genuine talk of that being the case just yet, it is highly unlikely he will be moving this summer. Money may talk I guess, but this is his dream, playing for Madrid.}

1.) 17 May 2017 11:21:28
Cheers mate, greizmann it is then hopefully if bale a none starter, damn talk sport building my hopes up.




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19 Sep 2020 22:49:02
33 points behind last season's champions and not a new face in the starting line up.

How do you assess results do you pick a pocket of games that back whatever opinion you have or look at a season as a whole .

Things we may not like to hear, Mike he will give 20 pens a year away when var comes in smalling was maybe the best defender on utds book last season .

Of the other 19 teams in the prem on the first day of a new season how many would swap their right hand side for tfm and james .

Those sort of results are how you end up 30 plus points behind the champions, hopefully we don't see anything that bad again for a long time .

I have to be honest wouldht be gutted to see zaha return.


1.) 19 Sep 2020 23:07:02
Unfortunately we will be seeing results like that. We are still far behind. All other clubs have invested in their squads. Our owners have invested heavily in their own dividends.

2.) 19 Sep 2020 23:42:18
Smalling is not the best defender he is just as poor as all the ither defenders.

Maguire is the best cb we have and that is saying somthing.

Shaw is poor always out of position other than wan bissaka and maguire the other 2 positions are anyones

We need a cb and a full back along with a winger and a striker

But we won't get anyone.

Everyone else has improved except us.

We have spent nothing vdb was bought with money saved from sanches wages technically.

Improvements are needed or we won't finish in the top 4

We are light years away from 1st wnd 2nd.

3.) 19 Sep 2020 23:53:54
Before a ball was even kicked there was already a cauldron of toxicity and negatively surrounding the Club.

In seasons where we've finished 2nd and 3rd a lack of urgency in the transfer market has seen us start the season with a sense of foreboding. If there is a desire to bring the title back to Old Trafford then it is conspicuous by its absence and it's hard to argue that the Clubs ambition lies beyond a top 4 finish.

In seasons when we've finished outside the top 4 we've seen the purse strings loosened and significant investment made in the squad. This has not been the case when money has been needed to push us onto the next level and mount a serious title challenge. The ambition of the Club is clear and unequivocal. Top 4 is panacea and the Club will not risk money chasing glory.

I think to analyse tonight's game is almost redundant and missing the bigger picture. Yes there are questions marks over team selection, substitutions and yet more inept defending by a calamity CB who is clearly not strong or robust enough for the Premier League but this does not strike at the heart of the problem.

As we go to bed this evening we can always console ourselves that despite a disastrous start we are still only 3 points behind the top 4. With the level of consistency demonstrated by Liverpool and City over the past two seasons it's safe to assume that a title challenge has already been surrendered on day 1.

Without significant investment we were never likely to finish above 3rd so in that respect tonight's defeat is merely evidence of yet more inconsistency.

Without ambition the Club will remain rooted in purgatory lying somewhere between corporate conglomerate and sporting institution.

At what point do we all just get with the program and start popping the champagne if we finish in the top 4? Protecting revenue streams and increasing sponsorship opportunities are after all the mission statement of the corporation. Maybe we need to recognise success when we see it and like City proudly boasted of having the tallest floodlights, nicest kits or even Curly Watts as a celebrity fan we can boast of revenue growth and social media followers!



15 Sep 2020 22:37:20
Ronaldo left in 2009 I believe . The right side of attack since then has left a lot to be desired .
Greenwood has made the best fist of it, his style head infield to join the striker and score goals and he's done it well .
Sometimes though we need to retain the width awb is better defending than overlapping and duznt really give us that . An option that provides width and offers guile we lack . Many have tried I won't list them all .
We seem to dither ( disagree with you on the manager stuff but feel your correct on this Redman, sorry for the namechecheck but I am agreeing ) the position has been an issue for a long time, buy a young right winger like sancho and tie down the position for years or refuse the price and target a different one.


1.) 16 Sep 2020 01:07:02
I think people forget how good Valencia was on that right wing for a couple of seasons so that's probably a bit harsh on him.

I would say until he got the 7 shirt he was mint on the right. (plus Ronnie was LW or Middle most of the time)



23 Jul 2020 10:03:05
It's a strange finale to the season ole, Lampard and rodgers may well have all taken the situation they are in if offered before the season started .
If ole knew last summer he wouldn't get bruno till january, pogba, rashford and mctom would miss large parts of the season injured, I think he would have took this situation .
Lampard was under a transfer ban and in his first season managing in the prem, I'd have thought if offered a game to go at home and needing a point he'd have taken that .
Rodgers if offered a one off game at home to qualify for champs league, I think he'd have snapped your hands off .
The weird thing is though that whichever of the 3 who duznt make it is going to feel a pretty big disappointment and a feeling of letting it slip through their fingers, rodgers has had pretty large points buffers, lampard needed a point from 2 games and prior to the Southampton game united looked pretty certain to make it .
People need to keep their powder dry until sunday as none of them have let it slip yet and only one of those scenarios will happen.




22 Dec 2019 20:53:33
I've just seen today's game I can't help but think a year ago when we were going through a bad spell under jose people were probably saying the keeper looking iffy now, pogba only creative midfielder but he wants away, we did next to nothing down the right side and we are a country mile behind in the league, if anyone did say that they could repost the same thing a year later.




22 Sep 2019 23:19:36
Feelings on here seem pretty high and I pick up an undertone of a difference of opinion over why get rid of jose for ole
Jose at first was successfull if a little boring, this was ok aslong as the team were challenging but by the third season we were mid table, signings were awful and fans of any other team asked to describe us would say basically park the bus .
However I do get jose fans point as is this currently any better, things that looked fairly obvious before the season started are playing out, if pogba got injured the midfield looks awful, he's injured and it is, we will struggle down the right hand side of attack as we have added nobody, well yep same players, same result, and where will goals come from as the attack looks light without Lukaku, well again yep it does and now we have players with no record of being prolific and they feed on scraps .
Our exciting more attacking future after jose hasn't played out and it's more of the same, if I was ole I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory than a damp squib .
Lots of us will have seen the stat on tv about the 900 million spent since fergie, looking at the team today that's unbelievable, it's certainly not lac of investment but its shocking what it's been spent on .


1.) 22 Sep 2019 23:34:41
Re the money wasted agree totally.

2.) 22 Sep 2019 23:49:09
The fact that jose was a negative egotistical to put polite douch.

Ole went on a run and the amateurs again made the wrong choice but he needs time.

What should we do sack him and bring somone else in? Who? I would love to know who everyone whose calling for his head to tell me who should be manager.

Pep could take this side over and we would still be piss poor

The fact is we need at least 3 years including this one go sort the mess out

We are going to get more days like this than we are days like the chelsea game

I can't stand watching us but I do because united are my team and as much as I will moan and slate the team I will still watch them.

We need to give ole time and we need to stick buy what he is trying to do.

3.) 23 Sep 2019 01:01:40
Considering the amount spent on your squad since fergie left, and that your players are on the highest wages in world football, the talent in your squad is abysmal. The problem stems much higher than Ole, though keeping him around at this point is just going to result in his public humiliation.
All that and somehow you'll scrape a win over us next week i'm sure.

4.) 23 Sep 2019 07:02:43
It is clear the club should have hired a DoF to oversee the rebuild. 900m is a humongous sum which many clubs can hardly dream, this indicates the people running the show have no clue.

5.) 23 Sep 2019 09:44:40

Mctominay and Fred play well together in midfield. At least Fred has some pace about him. Matic is just slow and past it.

Lingard is hit and miss. Rashford and Martial need to step up.

Pogba is Pogba. Lazy, selfish, sulky and lacks passion. He has never taken the game by the scruff of the neck.

6.) 23 Sep 2019 18:56:55
I keep hearing all of the rave reviews about Scott McNobody but I just can't see it. I really don't get what all of the fuss is about. I don't think he'd get in any other top 10 team in the prem.

As for Jessie "LingZ" Lingard. I really like his advertisement for Lynx. "Less is More". I think he's taking brand responsibility to a new level.




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05 Sep 2020 17:15:23
I'm guessing then shappy that if the 120 million you quote was spent on say 4 other players youd be just as against it what with the financial uncertainty and people losing jobs and other things you mention otherwise your simply saying youd spend it differently .




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04 Sep 2020 23:17:26
Why do people feel sancho will be cheaper in a years time, it's a genuine question .
I've always rated bale but that ship surely has sailed . I'd have liked him 3 year ago not now . He seems Madrids answer to sanchez, large wages no takers if a fee is involved or he duznt have a rethink on wages but if you were him would you.




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14 Dec 2018 09:50:52
I agree Ken we don't have a squad good enough to win the league however why is that.
We have bought 11 players under the manager that's an entire new team. Currently he inherited a great GK has bought his own players for 3 of the back 4 positions, an entire new 3 man midfield, a striker and a wideman .
Many players people feel maybe aren't good enough are still go to players and if they are given new deals it's hard to blame the tools he was left .




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12 Nov 2018 20:54:51
You make very articulate points about structure, outlay and ownership redman and I enjoy reading yr posts without always agreeing. There may be many issues at the club but we have been 19 and 23 points adrift and are currently 12 points behind but in all likelihood heading for twenty odd behind and we are currently in November behind Watford and Bournemouth .

Our football is often awful and our team for the money spent on it should be way better. We looked a bit out of our depth against city and maybe it's because they have spent more but by that logic we should be better than most if not all other teams in the world bar city. I think people can find it hard to hear about all areas where things aren't going to well but very little said about the obvious to some main thing, the managers results, style and transfer record.

i'm not sure what evidence there is that refutes every player we have bought was run past and agreed with Jose. To on the whole not mention Jose much but point out all the other things wrong with the club to me is like someone holding yr head underwater in the bath and pointing out the tap is running too fast and the waters too deep but then not really mentioning the hand holding year head underwater.




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06 May 2018 21:09:25
I think the whole do you blame players or the manager thing needs consistency if you feel it's not the managers fault when players performance or attitude are poor as he's not out on the pitch and can't be held accountable when they cross the line that's fine but why praise him when performance and attitude is good when you feel it was nothing to do with him when it wasn't.
To me the buck stops with the manager good or bad . I don't like the way he has us playing most of the time but we are second and in a cup final and as I say buck stops with the manager so to me that's worthy of another chance to make a title challenge . I may like others suspect we are as likely to slip back as keep going forward but that hasn't happened yet . If we do well next year IL praise the manager if we don't IL hold him accountable what I won't do is say he's great when we win but it's the players fault when we lose and nothing to do with him .





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27 Sep 2020 13:27:29
Id still be chasing a right winger, I thought the right hand side was non existent . Greenwood drifts inside constantly and awb struggles to provide any width .




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27 Sep 2020 13:27:29
Id still be chasing a right winger, I thought the right hand side was non existent . Greenwood drifts inside constantly and awb struggles to provide any width .




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26 Sep 2020 00:40:51
Maybe define what's good and what's not so good before we start . There are clearly two teams with better players and better managers than us, we are in a bunch of other teams decent but behind those two .
Does that mean finishing third is a success, yes and no .
Yes if we put up a good show fight, entertain and push them hard, no if come the end of november it's obvious we are pretty much out of it and haven't really challenged them at all again .
Accepting there are teams better who are likely to finish above isn't the same as accepting they are ahead by a landslide and not laying a glove on them.




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13 Sep 2020 21:33:39
Stand . I'm aware pogba hant maybe hit the heights he's capable of, midfield / attack requires many different skill sets but I think pogba is a fair bit better than atleast 6 other options matic, mctom, fred, mata, lingard and piereria.




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13 Sep 2020 20:06:05
Pogba getting a rough ride on here at the minute . I have to be honest I always think we are a better watch and more likely to win when he's playing compared to when he's not .
I don't know too much about van de beek or saul as I never watch dutch football and since the spanish football isn't on sky anymore I never see a spanish game . But they both seem highly rated by people on here so il bow to their judgement .
To me kevin de bruyne is the midfielder / attacker that I find streets ahead of anyone .
Maybe I like pogba because before bruno he had way more creation in him than fred, mctom or matic, I'd happily admit there are a fair few players better than him but I find him better than the players i just mentioned.