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30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


 

 

16 Jul 2020 09:24:22
Reports stating we are now possibly looking at Thiago Alcantara. nonsense 002?

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{Ed002's Note - Thiago Alcantara (CM/DM) was expected to extend at Bayern Munich but looking at options - Juventus may be interested, and Manchester United might see him as an option. LIverpool have not approached Bayern Munich and has no agreement regardless of what the Fat Kid From Bolton and his invisible friend says. Bayern Munich expected Thiago to extend at Bayern Munich but they do not want to pay more than the €12M a year he is currently on. Bayern Munich have said that they have not been approached by any other side since an enquiry from Juventus and have explicitly stated that Liverpool have not approached them.}


1.) 16 Jul 2020 10:03:29
Thiago's ability to receive the ball from the defence and progress it through midfield would be a brilliant asset to have. We have struggled for years in this regard and while he is a less attack minded player than Grealish, I'd say he would help our attacking play even more.


2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:25:55
Where would he fit in? Would he get into the starting 11? Would he be happy on the bench? I mean. he’s not got the height or physical prowess to replace Matic and I definitely can’t see him starting over Bruno or Pogba.

I also think it doesn’t look good going for a player we chased after years ago, just like Kroos.


3.) 16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.


4.) 16 Jul 2020 10:52:54
Him not starting every game may be an issue, potentially as will a salary of 12m + a year. But at the 40m price mentioned, he will be good value overall. I see him as an excellent option when we get pressed by teams similar to Southampton earlier in the week. He is excellent at receiving the ball and keeping it or playing it behind. Our midfield lacks ball control and creativity beyond pogba and bruno and we do not want to run Bruno / Pogba into the ground and ruin them. He also adds experience and is a serial winner - is pals with DeGea from their spain u21 days and is the right age not to block any youngsters coming into the team.
If the 5 substitutions per game becomes the norm next season, which i expect it to, then thiago will play at least 30 games a season, starting 15-20 of them. This week was the first time we played the same team for 4 games in a row in the last 20 years. We can't do that for 38 games next season!
When Kevin Debruyne can sit on the bench and understand that its a squad game - so can Thiago Alcantara. Moreover, if he wants to come to the premier league, our planned style of play will suit him the well unless he wants to go to city and join Pep.
I hope we go for him, but i doubt it will happen. Fingers crossed though.


5.) 16 Jul 2020 11:10:01
I have always been impressed with Alcantara.
Very good vision and passing ability.
He can dictate play from deep and provide killer balls to our pacey forwards.

Another technically good player with proven pedigree. I think his experience can prove to be valuable for our young squad.


6.) 16 Jul 2020 11:24:51
He would have been great had we got him when he went to munich but at the wages and fees and injuries? No brainer for me -spend the cash on Saul- For other regarded positions: test inters resolve with Skriniar and for the right wing try and get Chiesa instead of Sancho. Would be more than happy with that trio in.


7.) 16 Jul 2020 13:02:01
Cracking player. He is 29 not 39. People talk about him like he is over the hill 😂.


8.) 16 Jul 2020 13:19:11
I'd rip bayern arm off for him, fabulous footballer.


9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:47:12
If he played 30 plus games a season he would be fantastic to have.
Personally I'd be surprised he has a poor injury record and is not the profile of player we are linked with recently.
If pogba stays it gives us some great options.
No harm at all getting a real experienced high class player in if his attitude desire hunger and professionalism is high class too. Proven winner.
Would be a Great option to have imo.


10.) 16 Jul 2020 14:51:19
Fantastic player, but I'm not sure he is the type of player we should be looking at. If Pogba leaves then he would be a great replacement in that deeper creative role.

But I think midfield of Thiago, Pogba and Bruno although aesthetically pleasing might lack enough grit and defensive nous to be successful across a season.

Also I don't think his age, cost and injury record fits the clubs ideal profile for new signings.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


12.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


13.) 16 Jul 2020 15:27:29
Id take him over Grealish all day.


14.) 16 Jul 2020 15:51:18
agree singh but saul would be a) the better profile of playerb) the better value long term and imo the better player out of the 2- can but wish eh?


15.) 16 Jul 2020 16:16:43
Would add flexibility to the team and certainly could help with rotating Pogba and Bruno. One for the more technically minded but would he fit in with the 4222 that we have heard historically Olly likes.


16.) 16 Jul 2020 16:19:49
Doubt we will get Saul if Pogba stays so it makes sense to get Thiago and wait for a year or two to replace Matic with Saul if he is still available.


17.) 16 Jul 2020 17:49:23
Don't need a another Bastian Schweinstger. Plus at that wrong age now. Sign him for 3 years before performance will drop. Plus he would be a replacement for Pogba. Plus can he hack it on a rainy night down in Stoke. Bundesliga a decent league but the Premier League something else. I rather play McTominay or give James Garner more of a opportunity.


18.) 17 Jul 2020 23:12:13
Thomas Partey would be an awesome signing for us if Pogba stays. Sadly we can't be interested in every player out there.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 08:39:15
For 002 if around. Any progress on the search for a right winger? You mentioned trying to sell a move to Manchester to Chiesa, is it a possibility?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what I have previously stated as far as I know.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 10:26:45
I still can't look beyond Willian. I know Ed2 has shut that down on numerous occasions but if he's available he'd be immense for a few seasons. Quality and works his socks off.


2.) 14 Jul 2020 10:52:18
Chiesa is a cracking player, but I do worry about the idea that we need to convince him to leave Italy. Italian players have a very patchy record when they've moved outside of Italy.

If the kid doesn't want to leave Italy then how long will it be before he wants to go back.

I don't think we should be having to convince any player to sign for us. It's not like we are a club they will have never heard of, players know who Manchester United are. History suggests very few players who don't want to sign for a club do and succeed.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Willian, as good as he might be, is not the direction we should be looking in my opinion.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:13:17
Willian is not an option as i understand it. He will either renew with Chelsea he wants 3 years. Or he will probably sign for spurs. His family are settled in London and they have other business interests there too.

{Ed002's Note - And Manchester United have shown no interest.}


6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:42:21
Chiesa is a quality player though sounds as though he’s waiting for a bigger Italian club to come in for him?


7.) 15 Jul 2020 07:55:46
Big step for anyone to leave their home country shappy. Maybe not simply the case trying to convince him to join United. Maybe an Ed can elaborate on why he needs convincing.

But it's always a tough decision to make, leaving your home, no matter how big a job opportunity is presented.

Could also be the case, that once he gets here and settles, he might be absolutely fine. I think it's unfair to dismiss it at this point without knowing the facts.

{Ed002's Note - It is taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny Italy with the wonderful Mediterranean food and the beautiful girls laughing as they zip around on their Vespas to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets of Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.}


8.) 15 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Thanks ed, I heard that's exactly what his thinking is 😂

I heard he wasn't too keen on watching every episode of Corrie either.


9.) 15 Jul 2020 09:52:31
I don’t think Ed002 has been to Manchester since the 1800s, it gives us more of an idea of his / her age at least!


10.) 15 Jul 2020 12:24:12
😂GDS.

I think Manchester is a lovely place. Always enjoy my trips up there. Some beautiful spots for players to live there too. Cheshire has some lovely spots.

Always a culture shock though for any southern European player moving there. Especially if they are young.

I'd imagine it's the sale of moving to the UK rather than the move to United.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 16:53:53
Come on ed002 have you seen Angela's ashes? Manchester is paradise compared to rural Ireland were the kids are still educated in bush schools before a 6 hour shift picking potatoes in the fields😂
Im not sure what it is, obviously a cultural thing but Spanish players seem to travel and settle a lot better than Italian players into England.

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen it Ken. Players from some countries struggle to settle in England.}


 

 

03 Jul 2020 18:01:55
002, is it true thiago alcantara is available? Seen articles relating to Liverpool interest at a fairly reasonable price of around 30mil.

If we weren’t interested at that then I’d be worried. Give pogba his wish to leave and then bring him in! Probably messed it up when Moyes turned him down like! Yet again an amateur decision.

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United cannot be interested in every player - they have clear targets and a 29 year old Thiago is not one of them. The problem goes away if Pogba stays.}


1.) 03 Jul 2020 19:23:21
Ignore my last comment I've found a post lower down

Thanks.


2.) 03 Jul 2020 19:19:31
Fair enough Ed thanks for the insight. As always much appreciated, hope you’re keeping well!


3.) 03 Jul 2020 19:21:21
Ed has there been any approach to offer pogba a new contract

I know it's a pain talking about him bit I have searched and didn't find anything about a new contract.

Have things changed

Tia.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know but it would need to go through his agent and up until not too long ago there was no communication with him.}


 

 

09 Mar 2020 18:32:48
Chong signs.

RedWhiskey

1.) 09 Mar 2020 19:46:48
Think he's a real talent, good he has signed but maybe a loan next year would be good for him. A season at another prem team or even the championship would be great. If united get sancho etc can't see him playing a lot of games.


2.) 09 Mar 2020 22:28:39
Strange that it's only until 2022 tho. Glad he has signed a deal.


3.) 10 Mar 2020 07:41:14
Option for 3rd year, I guess he has two years to prove himself.


4.) 10 Mar 2020 08:19:25
I think from his perspective he won't want to be tied down to a long term deal if he isn't getting the game time he needs to develop.

While for United losing a player on a free, especially a young talented one doesn't look good.

The club does have a one year option on the deal. I would imagine he will be loaned out next year then his situation will be assessed. After a year on loan does he look ready to challenge in the first team or not.


5.) 10 Mar 2020 08:57:11
think your right shappy, that seems like the best option for everyone.


 

 

 

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10 Oct 2020 16:12:57
Pogba running his mouth yet again. Ship the horrible git out ASAP.

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1.) 10 Oct 2020 22:33:56
That interview was ""fake news""🎣🎣.


 

 

03 Oct 2020 16:23:10
Calvert lewin is starting to look like some player. Rodriguez surprising me too. If CL carries on his form I wouldn’t be surprised to see us try sign him next summer.

RedWhiskey

1.) 03 Oct 2020 21:09:39
And people here said Rodriguez is too slow for us, he wouldn't fit in the PL, no need to buy him.


 

 

30 Sep 2020 08:20:42
Club is an absolute joke at the moment. All rivals adding to their squad and spending. We’re sat making joke bids to Dortmund for a player who wouldn’t entertain the idea of joining if other teams were interested. Refusing decent bids for players we have deemed surplus.

Said it yesterday and I’ll say it again we barely scraped 3rd last season. And partly down to the rest having dodgy seasons, I expect more competition this season. Don’t see us up there this season, at all.

It’s alright though Ed Wood wood wood has told us we’ve took too big of a financial hit.

RedWhiskey

{Ed004's Note - Feel likes posts like this should maybe be held off until 6th of October. In the next few days if we end up signing Telles and Sancho/Ousmane (would love both if we could get Ousmane in on some sort of loan) then arguably only Chelsea have had a better window than us.}


1.) 30 Sep 2020 09:52:40
Not sure Ed. The fact that we will be well into the season by then and the new players will need atleast 3 weeks to integrate properly with the squad still makes the handling of this window by United very poor. No escaping from that.

{Ed004's Note - These high level signings take a long time to happen. Madrid chased Ronaldo for over a year, Madrid targeted Hazard every summer and Barca chasing Griezmann was messy etc. Not surprised it is taking this long to get Sancho especially in current economic climate. We also have an international break coming up which will hopefully help to bed in a few players}


2.) 30 Sep 2020 09:59:14
Ed004, At the start of the season we wanted a CB, CDM, RW and LB to strengthen our first X1.
With just 5 days to go, my fear is we shouldn't recruit just for the sake of it.

If we are getting players, it should be someone with Bruno's calibre.

{Ed004's Note - A lot to ask for there especially as the primary RW target costs north of 100 Mill alone. I also think the inability to move players on has restricted us massively}


3.) 30 Sep 2020 10:09:20
I’m a little confused. So the club is a joke for bidding below Dortmund’s asking price and a joke for not entertaining bids for our own players that are below our asking price?

Whilst I agree that this window hasn’t been handled particularly well, I’m not really sure there was an outcome where it could ever have been viewed otherwise.

If the club had put in a €120m bid for Sancho at the start of August they’d have been criticized for spending so much on an unproven player during the middle of a global C.V. Conversely, they’re being slammed both here and on social media for not doing that now.

Likewise, if the club had sold Smalling to Roma for £12m last month they’d have been criticized for letting him go for a fraction of his value. As it happens, it looks like by waiting we’ll get a fee much closer to the £20m asking price, but fans will still criticize the club for holding out.

I really do feel for the decision makers sometimes.


4.) 30 Sep 2020 10:25:16
We will be well into the season by next Monday? Might as well not bother then, only 35 games to go, it’s practically over, on to 21/ 22 😂

I agree we should wait until the end of the window, if we don’t get the signings we need then we still have a decent squad as ken mentioned yesterday, we could do with at least 2 more to help us improve and push on though.


5.) 30 Sep 2020 10:25:18
I think we all have very different expectations and personal desires with our club. Some want a top striker to replace Martial, others maybe only a back up, some are happy to see no one arrive in the striker department. Some see CB as the most important position others RW, some even look at CDM and see a serious need in that area of the pitch.

The point is that we all want different things because we see the game differently and want our team to play in different ways.

So no matter what the club does some will be happy and some won't. As can be seen on these pages when the club wins hardly anything is posted, when the club loses or draws all hell breaks loose. Ultimately because human nature is more likely to complain than praise sadly. During the transfer window those who are unhappy will be the prevailing voice online and on social media.

That doesn't escape the fact though that the club have handled the transfer window very badly. This seems to stem from no clear unifying vision at the club. We don't sell players who aren't wanted, needed and are only a financial drain on the club because the decision is being made by an accountant and the fee needs to match the player asset value on the spreadsheet. A player is worth only what someone will pay for them. If that is 5m then that is their current worth.

In comings have been equally as haphazard, the club needed to work on 3 or 4 clear areas they want to strengthen in, prioritise which positions are most important and have a list of 2 or 3 targets for each position. Realistic, attainable targets, who want to join. They need one team working on out goings and another working on in comings. So as to spread the work load.

With Jadon Sancho it was clear that Dortmund would not be moved from their valuation. As such both Real Madrid and Chelsea walked away from a potential deal early and focused on other targets. Sancho's agent offered to reduce his fee in order to try and tempt both clubs back to the table as they are Jadon's preferred clubs. At this point the club needed to sit down, and ask do we pay it? Can we afford to pay it? If the answer is no then draw a line under it and move on. Make it known publicly so that fans expectations are tempered and sign another right sided player.

This whole dragging it out now means the the entire success of the transfer window for Manchester United hinges on them having their pants pulled down and paying Dortmund the same fee they could have done 6 weeks ago. They have made the club look stupid by their handling of the whole situation.


6.) 30 Sep 2020 13:14:54
ED004,

My main concern is how poor Maguire and lindelof are. Maguires positional awareness is shocking along with his inability to provide cover for Lindelof. Those twonin defence are poor.

It goes to show how a lack of a DOF has affected the club by signing players that aren't really suitable albeit Fernandes.

{Ed004's Note - They did help keep the 3rd best clean sheet record in the league last season so they can't be all bad. However, I do feel we should have signed someone to compliment one of them better. We probably should have moved for a partner beside Maguire who has a bit of athleticism.}


7.) 30 Sep 2020 16:20:34
I am not sure that the 170+ millions of Sanchos deal can go at other transfers. I remember (and correct me if i am wrong) that when Glazers came at our club the budget was 25 millions for transfers generally and 25 millions for a marquee sighning. This year the money for Sanchos deal are from not playing the debt. So maybe we will use that money only if we can attract a marquee sighning.
I don't think our targets were lb, cb or cdm at the start of the window. The clear targets were Sancho and AM to rotate with Bruno-Pogba (Greelish-Vab De Beek) . One more position would be a bonus and would be at mainly at left back because of the injury record of Shaw.
Previous summer the targets were cb and right back mainly which we bought for a lot of money, in midtime we bought an AM in Bruno and this summers DVB and Sancho (? ) . So in one year three defenders for first eleven (Bissaka-Maguire-Telles) , two midfielders one for first eleven and the other will compete for first eleven and an attacker (Sancho) . So that is 5 or 6 players for first eleven in the space of one year.
I am not saying its good or bad because that's not the point. But we could all agree in time (the previous summer) that 3 players for defence, 2 for midfield and one attacker would be excellent return in the space of one year and 3 transfer windows. Yet people move the goalposts and ask for much more. Maybe because they realize that we are not so good and we were third because others were crap or they realize that the players they all (not all but most) wanted like Maguire are not the answer but part of the problem. And the same people wants to take more players to "help" Maguire or even change him with a better one, just like "helping" Pogba when they realised he wasn't that good and we must have bought a new team to carry him. Guys its not working like that. I know i am in minority but i think the club have bought (and will buy) what the manager wanted and what the most of you wanted before you moved the goalpost.


 

 

29 Sep 2020 17:54:42
My annoyance with this transfer window is of two points.

1. We finished 3rd by our skin of our teeth. We need more quality to get that again nevermind push for the top 2.

2. I see fans stating the monetary downfall as a result of C.V. the reason as to why we have signed but one player. Really? The general consensus of the ‘top 6’ have strengthened. As have Leicester and wolves. I am very happy with signing vdb but in a world where we need to solidify our shocking defence and needing a right winger for how long. Why haven’t we added? Primary targets haven’t been there. True. But to go in to the league with Maguire and lindelof. No right winger? I can forgive the cb situation with how many we have. But RW no. Greenwood ain’t the one for us there, he’ll product but he’s not a winger.

We had ended the season on a high with a potential to build on it, and we haven’t. We were never going to win the league whatever signings we made but we simply aren’t going forward. Who’s to blame that remains to be seen. It’s just a sad shape of affairs right now for me. I can compare it almost to jose finishing second, champs league is back so the revenue is up. And the manager ain’t backed fully as a result of the bare minimum having been achieved.

The incoming ideas of telles and sarr, telles I don’t see the sense unless dalot actually leaves. Sarr I like the look of but again, it’s been said we’d not be his first choice. What’s happening?

RedWhiskey

1.) 29 Sep 2020 19:36:50
The squad that finished lat season is good enough to finish 3rd third season i don't doubt that 1 bit.
We need better players to catch Liverpool that's for sure.
City have lost 10 of their last 35 games. I think we could catch them too but not Liverpool without better players.
In the meantime we just need to get the best out of what we have.


 

 

04 Sep 2020 15:11:25
Greenwood to wear number 11. Well deserved. Now it’s a toss up between Greenwood 11 or Fernandes 18 for the new home kit!

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1.) 04 Sep 2020 18:35:18
Excellent news and well deserved, he's been a breath of fresh air along with Bruno.

Our current front 3 have so much potential.


2.) 04 Sep 2020 22:19:56
Bruno to 8 when Mata moves?


3.) 05 Sep 2020 01:27:22
Utd road, eventually yes. He has the 8 tattooed on himself after all.


 

 

 

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18 Oct 2020 06:50:00
He wouldn’t excel anywhere dsg he’s a no good drama queen.

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05 Oct 2020 13:50:31
How in was I bashing them? They’re both very young and raw. Simply stating if it’s the clubs way of appeasing fans look we’ve bought wingers then it’s for the wrong reasons. We need someone for the wings right now.

But okay jump head first into trying to call a poster out 😂.

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05 Oct 2020 12:58:00
If we sign him and pellistri in place of a winger who can make an impact I’ll be pretty annoyed.

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03 Oct 2020 17:55:41
Correct ala traore caolan. However the Pellistri has some weight behind it, it’s said there’s a dispute that his club want to keep him for a loan despite the sale but we want him now.

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30 Sep 2020 12:42:27
Wow shappy did you really just spend time calculating all that?

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22 Oct 2020 06:43:01
Fred is more suited to the champs league than epl imo.

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07 Oct 2020 12:12:38
Like meeting erdogan?

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03 Oct 2020 16:22:10
Vdb to start over pogba
Bailly and Maguire
De gea to start. I’d prefer Henderson but he’ll stick with de gea.

Tough game.

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01 Oct 2020 20:23:58
Istanbul have our very own Rafael. Will be nice to see him back at old Trafford shame the fans won’t be there to give him the reception he deserves.

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29 Sep 2020 11:10:12
Going a bit far to say Bruno wouldn’t get into the Liverpool or city team. Might not suit the style of play for Liverpool at the moment that being said.

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