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09 Mar 2021 11:35:48
Rumours today that cavani will not be extending, any truth in this Ed’s?


{Ed002's Note - Edinson Cavani (S) out of contract and wants to move to Boca Juniors. His agent has a plan to offer, as I have mentioned before, Andre Silva (S) who was recomemnded to several clubs, certainly including Everton and Manchester United, by a very high-end independent scout who used to play in the Premier League. This dates back to last summer before his loan became a permanent move. But his agent may look to figure out a move to Old Trafford if Cavani leaves.}

1.) 09 Mar 2021 12:43:02
Not a good news that Cavani would be looking to leave. With Martial blowing hot and cold, we would definitely need a reliable Centre Forward.

2.) 09 Mar 2021 12:32:42
Ed, if its not too much trouble could you tell us what other forwards we may look at as replacements?

{Ed002's Note - There is not much at this time - if Kane were available at a reasonable price they would be keen. There has been interest in Moussa Dembele (S) whose loan is not going at all well at Atletico Madrid and that may put them off taking up their option to buy the player - would now be seen as risky but Manchester Inited could yet offer an option. Or they could look to the versatility of a Leon Bailey type player.}

3.) 09 Mar 2021 13:12:28
Wow I wasn't expecting that. Such a shame as he's made a positive impact when available. One of those players I wish we'd signed a number of years ago.

It makes signing a centre forward a top priority if Cavani is to leave.

Thanks for the info Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The alternative would be another Falcao, ZI, EC type player at the end of their careers that MU might be able to squeeze a little more out of him.}

4.) 09 Mar 2021 13:32:37
Ed002 Can I ask if there's any interest in Dominic Calvert-Lewin? I couldn't find anything on a search so perhaps not.

{Ed002's Note - No there isn’t.}

5.) 09 Mar 2021 13:51:02
Thank you Ed.

6.) 09 Mar 2021 16:28:36
I don't proclaim to understand all the nuances around contracts but I always thought it was a 1 year deal with the option to extend for a further year and that the club could trigger that extra year.
Apologies if this is wrong and I have missunderstood how this works.
I have always liked Cavani and wished we had got him years ago, beast of a team player.

{Ed077's Note - I have really liked Cavani when he has played; but he has missed too many games and struggled to get an extended run to make a big difference on a consistent basis.

7.) 09 Mar 2021 17:52:43
His dad has pretty much confirmed he’s going to boca in the summer.

8.) 09 Mar 2021 17:54:30
If Utd want to compete they’re going to have to bite the bullet and buy a top striker in the summer. Cavani has been pretty good but he’s too injury prone for another season. We may end up wasting our time on a fruitless pursuit of Haaland.

9.) 09 Mar 2021 18:37:13
Or play Greenwood up top and buy a Sancho type player.

{Ed002's Note - Like Bailey.}

10.) 09 Mar 2021 18:53:02
I think Bailey doesn't have an attitude problem or ego like Sancho has.

11.) 09 Mar 2021 20:44:24
When did martial blow hot this season. been blowing cold and colder.

12.) 09 Mar 2021 22:45:48
Aguero is available on a free 😉.

13.) 10 Mar 2021 08:37:55
Martial had had an average season. However the season before he was excellent. Maybe now he knows Cavani is off has improved his performance and mood.

As per Ed’s comments, I think the club know they’ll not get Haaland, C.V. has stopped them splashing mega millions, so Bailey or similar etc will come and Greenwood will rotate up front with Martial.

Should Pogba stay and extend, we will not need an extra creative midfielder.

Let’s be honest, last season’s front three of Rashford, Martial and Greenwood was awesome. Just lacked strength in depth and options.

Not sure who made the point but goals aren’t the issue it seems - goals against are.

I think a summer of three signings is the absolute maximum we will see/ require - CB, DM, Forward. Maybe a punt on Jovic/ Dembele/ Bailey would be sensible.

{Ed077's Note - really Martial has had an average season in you eyes?

Martial has had one good game this season which was against City last Sunday and has consistently been one of the worst players throughout the season IMO.}

14.) 10 Mar 2021 08:53:27
I think we are too quick to want to offload players Ed77. Yes he’s been below par this season, but last season he was one of our best players. There’s a quality player in there, and it’s up to him, OGS and coaching team to get that player out consistently. Whether it’s because he’s sulking, hates competition, has personal issues or the tactics don’t suit him. I have no idea but I for one would be keen to keep him over spending £50m+ on someone else who we don’t need.

{Ed077's Note - but he has been woeful this season. If managers arent afforded the luxury of having a poor poor season than why is a player who has had 1 good season in 4-5 yrs and a horrible season so far be given the first choice role? Cavani has made himself first choice when fit this season so I dont see your argument in saying signing someone to replace him if he leaves isnt needed.}

15.) 10 Mar 2021 09:15:58
Not arguing he’s been poor Ed - that’s been clear to see. But the coaching staff have to look at why, and also why do they keep playing him if he lacks the talent (which don’t believe is the issue) .

Regarding the Cavani love in that’s the point. He’s not been readily available at all due to consistent muscle injuries that have been a part of his career for recent years and he wants out - his Dad made that pretty clear yesterday.

{Ed077's Note - And most are saying if Cavani leaves we need to replace him, because he has effectively been first choice when available. The frustration with Martial isnt because people think he lacks talent, actually its the opposite, he just doesnt do anywhere near what he is capable of, for most people.}

16.) 10 Mar 2021 09:32:37
He is a frustrating player for sure. He’s not a striker though either as we can all see. Cavani has highlighted a need in our team that should be addressed. A No9 who is cunning, aggressive, and occupies defenders allowing Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood, and dare I say Martial to play off them.

{Ed077's Note - Thats too many attackers lol.

Martial was played on the left wing, people said he was more of a No.9. Now he hasnt been much better as a CF so he is a CAM?}

17.) 10 Mar 2021 09:37:19
Wing back next! The truth is watching the whole team is currently frustrating. They’re all hot and cold with the exception of Bruno.

{Ed077's Note - I think someone else said it here but Martial has not been hot this season, he has been cold and colder. I thought last season the penny had finally dropped for Martial but he has gone back to his previous sulky self.}

18.) 10 Mar 2021 09:46:47
Then it’s a mental block rather than an ability one it seems.

{Ed077's Note - he is 25 yrs old already, he wont get over his "mental block" now if he is so weak mentally. For me he doesnt have the fire on his belly to be a top top player.}

19.) 10 Mar 2021 10:36:22
martial has been poor because that is the player he is. no time for players who don't want to work hard,

he is lazy, doesn't make run doesn't stretch players, and other than the ok game against city he has been terrible.

20.) 10 Mar 2021 12:01:00
Never seen anyone so blindly defend martial. He’s piss poor and he’s had more than enough time to showcase his abilities.

21.) 10 Mar 2021 12:39:34
Because interestingly over 250 games for the club both he and Rashford share almost identical goals and assist records and I assume we’ve not yet got started on the Rashford bashing just yet? Nothing blind about my analysis- he’s a highly effective player when in form. Which this season he is not. Yet he is still preferred above other options byvarious managers and coaches. They must see something others don’t.

{Ed077's Note - Jose didn't want to keep him. LVG didn't have many options. OGS is the only manager that you can say has continued with him and even then Martial doesn't play the major games if Cavani is available. Cavani has shown him up, Martial just doesn't do enough to be leading the line for a team that has aspirations to compete at the highest level.

Also were you not around when people wanted Rashford to be dropped and even sold just a few months ago. And Radford offers a lot more to the team than Martial, and he is homegrown and club trained so even if you have to choose between the 2 of them the sensible option is to choose Rashford. Also don't forget Rashford is almost 2 years younger.

22.) 10 Mar 2021 12:53:41
Age is irrelevant as people develop at different rates both mentally and physically.

I was around reading the ridiculous posts about getting rid of Rashford, just as I am now on Martial. You back up my point Ed.

As for Jose - this is the same Jose created an horrendous atmosphere amongst players and fans at our club, that tried to force out Luke Shaw and dropped him for Ashley Young and played Fellaini every week. The same Jose that has Bale and Dele Alli on the bench every week at Spurs? Yeah I remember him and good riddance to him.

Seems to me if there is a problem with Martial, then the criticism should be aimed at the manager, coaches and club for keeping him.

23.) 10 Mar 2021 14:59:33
Eric, Rashford's work rate is incomparable to Martial.
Even in the last match, Rashy chased down 70 yards to stop a City attack.

Will Martial do that?
Work rate and right attitude is the bare minimum expected from any player.

24.) 10 Mar 2021 16:43:38
I’m not criticising either player (especially not Rashford) in any of my posts. I think they’re both valuable players for our team. In fact anybody asking for Rashford to be sold I think is a fool.

I’d love to see the stats though behind this lazy tag on how little Martial works and runs - is this published anywhere? It’s genuinely a really fascinating debate and why I love football as two people can see and interpret the same thing very differently.

{Ed077's Note - but you also seem to think that Martial is a great and has been doing well and people are wrong to criticise him; or thats how your posts portray which in my opinion, MY OPINION is surprising given how poor Martial has been all season.}

25.) 10 Mar 2021 17:58:55
Not at all. Nowhere have I said he’s had a good season. Read what I have said. Although Do I think he’s a good player though? Yes I absolutely do.

To label him as lazy though is an interesting one for me - I’d like to see how much runs compared to the team using stats before I agree or disagree. The perception is he’s lazy due to his style, but not sure whether the facts back that up.

We decided to move him to a 9 - this is his second full full season in that role. l as a professional footballer at elite level. He’s learning it as he goes and was never going to be as good as Cavani at it in that side of time who is a proven craftsman at his trade in that piston albeit a dwindling force now. The fact he’s not massively improved at it, in fact regressed this season, I think is more damning on our manager (an ex striker) and coaches than it is him.

{Ed077's Note - I didnt say you said he has had a good season. Read what I have said. I dont think anybody likes his body language and application most of the times and it is understandable why it puts some people off specially during his bad runs, which have been more frequent than his good runs.

You seem to miss one very important point in a lot of this discussion; that most of the striker talk has been around the fact that Cavani seems very willing to leave for Boca Juniors and hence needs replacing. Some want to get shot of Martial instead of Cavani but that looks less likely.}

26.) 10 Mar 2021 18:18:43
His body language and style do give the wrong perception Ed for sure. I also think he does run - just makes the wrong type of runs as he’s not been trained as a natural a striker.

Given Cavani almost certainly gone, who’s your pick to replace if we assume Haaland is not an option? Jovic? Silva? Greenwood moved centrally?

{Ed077's Note - DCL maybe, although looks unlikely. Maybe Patson Daka. I am a little bit skeptical about signing attackers from Frankfurt. I am unsure whether the players are so good or if its the system and the manager thats really good. But if the club is convinced about Andre Silva then he will have full support from me.

27.) 10 Mar 2021 18:25:10
DCL would be my choice but he’s going to be too pricey I think.

Silva looking likely. Or keep Martial 😂😂😂😂.

{Ed077's Note - keep Martial but still need to replace Cavani. The academy lads dont look ready just yet either.}

28.) 10 Mar 2021 18:31:00
No I’d agree on that. Few years off yet.

29.) 11 Mar 2021 00:23:30
If I were EW I’d be going all out for Haaland. He hasn’t been able to get a proper run in the side due to injuries and suspension, but Cavani has shown us what a difference a proper CF can do in this side and for my money there isn’t a better one out there than Haaland right now.

Despite our poor relationship with his agent, I do wonder whether we’re well placed to strike a deal due to the Pogba situation. IIrc, were we to sell him this summer the fee would go to Pogba and his agent and so there’s very little incentive for us to do so unless we can strike some sort of deal. If that deal happened to be allowing them to keep all of the fee in exchange for getting a deal for Haaland over the line then I certainly wouldn’t say no. By all accounts, Dortmund need to sell, Haaland isn’t against a move to Manchester and his agent will likely push for whichever deal is going to line his pockets the most. It seems very doable, although will no doubt cost a lot.

I hate football agents and how greedy and influential they’ve become, but sometimes you have to deal with the devil in order to get things done. If we don’t, one of our rivals will.



11 Jan 2021 23:50:46
Moussa dembele joins atletico, seems a simeone striker to me be good to see how he gets on. Looks like caicedo is heading to Brighton then out on loan. TFM to Bayer Leverkusen.


1.) 12 Jan 2021 06:51:11
I wonder why Utd opted against Caicedo?

ED002 I read reports that there were a lot of intermediaries involved in this pote tial transfer, is that true?

{Ed002's Note - It is not uncommon with South American players.}

2.) 12 Jan 2021 11:02:21
Hatter, While I can't speak for the club, personally I was a little surprised by the link to Caicedo in the first place. Obviously a talented player and supposedly available for a very fair price.

Yet what United need is someone ready and able to step in and be that holding midfielder we can build the next side around. I'm not sure a 19 year old coming straight out of South America is the right person for that.

We have some depth in midfield already, with Pogba, Matic, Fred, McTominay and Donny. While we have some excellent young players of a similar age to Caicedo coming through, Garner being the obvious and most highly rated of them.

Personally I think we need that holding shielding player who can control the tempo. Saul would be ideal, Rice could be a good option as well. I think Caicedo looks better in a more box to box role, and at his age and level of experience I don't think he is ready to jump in and be first choice.

3.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:17

Saul would be ideal. It's a shame Pogba wasn't allowed to go in the summer and Saul bought in as a replacement.

4.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:31
Thanks ED002.



30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}



16 Jul 2020 09:24:22
Reports stating we are now possibly looking at Thiago Alcantara. nonsense 002?


{Ed002's Note - Thiago Alcantara (CM/DM) was expected to extend at Bayern Munich but looking at options - Juventus may be interested, and Manchester United might see him as an option. LIverpool have not approached Bayern Munich and has no agreement regardless of what the Fat Kid From Bolton and his invisible friend says. Bayern Munich expected Thiago to extend at Bayern Munich but they do not want to pay more than the €12M a year he is currently on. Bayern Munich have said that they have not been approached by any other side since an enquiry from Juventus and have explicitly stated that Liverpool have not approached them.}

1.) 16 Jul 2020 10:03:29
Thiago's ability to receive the ball from the defence and progress it through midfield would be a brilliant asset to have. We have struggled for years in this regard and while he is a less attack minded player than Grealish, I'd say he would help our attacking play even more.

2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:25:55
Where would he fit in? Would he get into the starting 11? Would he be happy on the bench? I mean. he’s not got the height or physical prowess to replace Matic and I definitely can’t see him starting over Bruno or Pogba.

I also think it doesn’t look good going for a player we chased after years ago, just like Kroos.

3.) 16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.

4.) 16 Jul 2020 10:52:54
Him not starting every game may be an issue, potentially as will a salary of 12m + a year. But at the 40m price mentioned, he will be good value overall. I see him as an excellent option when we get pressed by teams similar to Southampton earlier in the week. He is excellent at receiving the ball and keeping it or playing it behind. Our midfield lacks ball control and creativity beyond pogba and bruno and we do not want to run Bruno / Pogba into the ground and ruin them. He also adds experience and is a serial winner - is pals with DeGea from their spain u21 days and is the right age not to block any youngsters coming into the team.
If the 5 substitutions per game becomes the norm next season, which i expect it to, then thiago will play at least 30 games a season, starting 15-20 of them. This week was the first time we played the same team for 4 games in a row in the last 20 years. We can't do that for 38 games next season!
When Kevin Debruyne can sit on the bench and understand that its a squad game - so can Thiago Alcantara. Moreover, if he wants to come to the premier league, our planned style of play will suit him the well unless he wants to go to city and join Pep.
I hope we go for him, but i doubt it will happen. Fingers crossed though.

5.) 16 Jul 2020 11:10:01
I have always been impressed with Alcantara.
Very good vision and passing ability.
He can dictate play from deep and provide killer balls to our pacey forwards.

Another technically good player with proven pedigree. I think his experience can prove to be valuable for our young squad.

6.) 16 Jul 2020 11:24:51
He would have been great had we got him when he went to munich but at the wages and fees and injuries? No brainer for me -spend the cash on Saul- For other regarded positions: test inters resolve with Skriniar and for the right wing try and get Chiesa instead of Sancho. Would be more than happy with that trio in.

7.) 16 Jul 2020 13:02:01
Cracking player. He is 29 not 39. People talk about him like he is over the hill 😂.

8.) 16 Jul 2020 13:19:11
I'd rip bayern arm off for him, fabulous footballer.

9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:47:12
If he played 30 plus games a season he would be fantastic to have.
Personally I'd be surprised he has a poor injury record and is not the profile of player we are linked with recently.
If pogba stays it gives us some great options.
No harm at all getting a real experienced high class player in if his attitude desire hunger and professionalism is high class too. Proven winner.
Would be a Great option to have imo.

10.) 16 Jul 2020 14:51:19
Fantastic player, but I'm not sure he is the type of player we should be looking at. If Pogba leaves then he would be a great replacement in that deeper creative role.

But I think midfield of Thiago, Pogba and Bruno although aesthetically pleasing might lack enough grit and defensive nous to be successful across a season.

Also I don't think his age, cost and injury record fits the clubs ideal profile for new signings.

11.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.

12.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.

13.) 16 Jul 2020 15:27:29
Id take him over Grealish all day.

14.) 16 Jul 2020 15:51:18
agree singh but saul would be a) the better profile of playerb) the better value long term and imo the better player out of the 2- can but wish eh?

15.) 16 Jul 2020 16:16:43
Would add flexibility to the team and certainly could help with rotating Pogba and Bruno. One for the more technically minded but would he fit in with the 4222 that we have heard historically Olly likes.

16.) 16 Jul 2020 16:19:49
Doubt we will get Saul if Pogba stays so it makes sense to get Thiago and wait for a year or two to replace Matic with Saul if he is still available.

17.) 16 Jul 2020 17:49:23
Don't need a another Bastian Schweinstger. Plus at that wrong age now. Sign him for 3 years before performance will drop. Plus he would be a replacement for Pogba. Plus can he hack it on a rainy night down in Stoke. Bundesliga a decent league but the Premier League something else. I rather play McTominay or give James Garner more of a opportunity.

18.) 17 Jul 2020 23:12:13
Thomas Partey would be an awesome signing for us if Pogba stays. Sadly we can't be interested in every player out there.



14 Jul 2020 08:39:15
For 002 if around. Any progress on the search for a right winger? You mentioned trying to sell a move to Manchester to Chiesa, is it a possibility?


{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what I have previously stated as far as I know.}

1.) 14 Jul 2020 10:26:45
I still can't look beyond Willian. I know Ed2 has shut that down on numerous occasions but if he's available he'd be immense for a few seasons. Quality and works his socks off.

2.) 14 Jul 2020 10:52:18
Chiesa is a cracking player, but I do worry about the idea that we need to convince him to leave Italy. Italian players have a very patchy record when they've moved outside of Italy.

If the kid doesn't want to leave Italy then how long will it be before he wants to go back.

I don't think we should be having to convince any player to sign for us. It's not like we are a club they will have never heard of, players know who Manchester United are. History suggests very few players who don't want to sign for a club do and succeed.

3.) 14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.

4.) 14 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Willian, as good as he might be, is not the direction we should be looking in my opinion.

5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:13:17
Willian is not an option as i understand it. He will either renew with Chelsea he wants 3 years. Or he will probably sign for spurs. His family are settled in London and they have other business interests there too.

{Ed002's Note - And Manchester United have shown no interest.}

6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:42:21
Chiesa is a quality player though sounds as though he’s waiting for a bigger Italian club to come in for him?

7.) 15 Jul 2020 07:55:46
Big step for anyone to leave their home country shappy. Maybe not simply the case trying to convince him to join United. Maybe an Ed can elaborate on why he needs convincing.

But it's always a tough decision to make, leaving your home, no matter how big a job opportunity is presented.

Could also be the case, that once he gets here and settles, he might be absolutely fine. I think it's unfair to dismiss it at this point without knowing the facts.

{Ed002's Note - It is taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny Italy with the wonderful Mediterranean food and the beautiful girls laughing as they zip around on their Vespas to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets of Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.}

8.) 15 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Thanks ed, I heard that's exactly what his thinking is 😂

I heard he wasn't too keen on watching every episode of Corrie either.

9.) 15 Jul 2020 09:52:31
I don’t think Ed002 has been to Manchester since the 1800s, it gives us more of an idea of his / her age at least!

10.) 15 Jul 2020 12:24:12

I think Manchester is a lovely place. Always enjoy my trips up there. Some beautiful spots for players to live there too. Cheshire has some lovely spots.

Always a culture shock though for any southern European player moving there. Especially if they are young.

I'd imagine it's the sale of moving to the UK rather than the move to United.

11.) 16 Jul 2020 16:53:53
Come on ed002 have you seen Angela's ashes? Manchester is paradise compared to rural Ireland were the kids are still educated in bush schools before a 6 hour shift picking potatoes in the fields😂
Im not sure what it is, obviously a cultural thing but Spanish players seem to travel and settle a lot better than Italian players into England.

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen it Ken. Players from some countries struggle to settle in England.}




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10 Jan 2022 23:16:01
Rashford was shocking again tonight. Anyone see the soft pass from Martinez which trickled past rashford who had he put any effort in would have had made a very important interception in their own box.


1.) 11 Jan 2022 10:19:11
Yea, I was fuming. If that was Cavani he would have bust a gut to get to the ball.



04 Jan 2022 11:21:48
Club is rotten to the core. Far too many chancers at the club and overpaid tosspots. I can't see us challenging until a lot of the dross are shown the door. They believe their own hype and it seems to be the same culprits over and over.

And I'm starting to lean to the opinion that bringing Ronnie back was a mistake too.

Hard not to react to that defeat like this but I fear for our top 4 chances massively now. Yesterday was a great chance to close the gap with a game in hand on top 4. Absolute bottlers.


1.) 04 Jan 2022 13:27:19
Agreed, I was buzzing when he signed but huge mistake! You defend from the front, he doesn’t! A good team could carry him we cannot . Our better players over the last 18 months have gone into their shells, partly because their mentally weak as p. !

2.) 04 Jan 2022 13:47:17
We are not providing service to our strikers.
The midfield is shockingly poor. McTominay gave the ball away twice as much as all Wolves midfielders combined.

The sloppiness on the ball and body language of certain players are just poor.

3.) 04 Jan 2022 14:14:55
TRD - they can't provide the service if there's no movement.
Ronaldo, Cavani, Sancho, and Rashford (when he came on) were all shocking and looked like they had zero interest in the game.
There was no movement, no running off the ball, no running in to channels.

The only player who looked to try and make something happen was Greenwood and the manager hauled him off which i couldn't understand.

There's no quick fix for this, like Red Whiskey said the club is full of overpaid toss pots who could not care less and you can see that in there body language and the way they play.

We have become a laughing stock, it's quite shocking to see just how much we have fallen since Fergie retired.

4.) 04 Jan 2022 14:58:07
blame the player who without his goals would be out of the UCL and further down thew table

site makes me laugh sometimes. what strikers defend from the front his job is to score goals, shame we give him 0 service.

5.) 04 Jan 2022 15:23:41
Sim, our midfield don't have quality to pass forward.
In the last 2 matches Ronaldo made number of runs but the midfield didn't have the quality to pull off the pass.

McT couldn't even pass sideways. Just shocking lethargy.

6.) 04 Jan 2022 15:29:47
Bolger, you like many United fans have a blind spot where Ronaldo is concern.

It is possible for someone to be a great player AND the reason for a team struggling.

Since Ronaldo rejoined the club every single player to a man, bar DDG, has seen at least a 10% drop in application and at least a 20% drop in performance levels.

It's like they don't think they have to work as hard, or that they think Ronaldo will carry them, or maybe they feel they can't play their natural game and have to play for Ronaldo.

Ronaldo is one of my favourite ever players, but the guy is selfish to the teams detriment at times.

The problem with a big personality like Ronaldo in a team full of players who cannot match his mentality is it is easy for the rest of the team to be swallowed up by him.

Maybe our players are playing thinking too much about Ronaldo, maybe they are trying to play for him, or maybe they are trying too hard to prove their own worth in the team alongside him.

Either way his presence in the side has caused a team wide drop in performance levels. He has altered the team dynamic and we are a poorer side for it.

I'm not blaming Ronaldo for that, he is who he is and he isn't likely to change. I'm sure he never intended to have a negative impact.

However, the reality is if we didn't sign him and bought a midfielder instead then the team would have a better balance and everyone would likely be playing 20% better at least. As a result the team would be performing better and would have likely have got through the UCL group at least as well as they did, maybe better. While they would also likely be 5-8 points better off in the league.

7.) 04 Jan 2022 15:45:05
Bolger you miss my point. Yes he has been crucial in getting goals but perhaps he has upset the harmony. Rashford isn't getting the game time he wants neither is Greenwood. Who's to say they weren't able to get those goals if they were playing? I assume the idea was a front three of rashford cavani and sancho with Greenwood covering across those three. But now with Ronaldo it means less game time for someone.

8.) 04 Jan 2022 16:25:35
Shappy that is nonsense mate., the fact the team levels drop because a winner like ronaldo who demands 110 has come in to help the team win somthing, but its his fault the other can't pass a ball forward, or sprint 20 yards to defend a shot.

a tell you what if ronaldo went to city or to liverpool in the summer do you think they would have dropped there levels? not played the ball forward? stopped being able to do 5 yard passes or move and run,

give me a break mate.

red whiskey you say the idea was a front 3 of cavani rashford and sancho with greenwood rotating now that means 1 misses out because of ronaldo, yet cavani is always injured, rashford is poor and wouldn't be missed if he left.

greenwood has played more than enough but has been average everytime he plays just like sancho.

we needed a striker regardless of ronaldo coming or not.

its laughable ronaldo is the reason we are where we are yet he is the reason we are not further up.

if anyone is to blame its the defence that went over 20 matches without keepeing a clean sheet.

9.) 04 Jan 2022 17:19:12
Bolger there's a bit of brown on your nose mate.

{Ed014's Note - it’s no secret that Ronaldo had his agent sound out City as he wanted the move there.

City weren’t interested, Pep decided to do without a striker rather than lumber himself with Ronaldo, I’d put money on it Klopp wouldn’t have touched him either.

He’d kill the way they play and clearly wouldn’t suit them at all.

United crazily decided it was a good idea instead of building on what you had, albeit it’s still a long way short in terms of quality.

Just seems like taking a another huge step backwards simply to please a fan base and sell a lot of merch!

10.) 04 Jan 2022 19:18:57
We will never know if Ronaldo fit Oles system because we never really had a clear understanding of it! In truth he does not suit what RR wants to play given his philosophy.

That being said the problem isn't Ronaldo it goes far deeper, this team needs dismantling, there are some players RR can work with and who will do well in this system the rest no.

The list of players I would keep;

McTominey (Squad player)

Then there is a bunch of the kids who I would see if they could develop in this system but that's it for me.

I live Bruno but truthfully I don't think he fits RR gegenpress system in the Midfield amd so should go.

{Ed0666's Note - Bruno is a mediocre footballer whose had a purple patch.

11.) 04 Jan 2022 19:59:00
Shaws a crying mess get rid
Greenwood is billy big bolloks doesn't want to get his head down send him to u23
Rashford omg say no more.

this why fans shouldn't give opinions because they are clueless, mctominay? Come on this is supposed to be elite level. Some of these opinions on here give me a bigger breakdown than the teams performance.

12.) 04 Jan 2022 19:57:21
Ed0666, his "purple patch" lasted over 3 years across two clubs. That's one hell of a purple patch.

Lingard's lasted about 6 months both when he had a spell at United under Jose, and at West Ham.

Bruno is a good player, but like all players he needs a certain set up in order to play his best.

Even over the past 12 months when his level has dropped, he is still in the top ten in Europe for shot creating actions.

Personally I think he is burnt out and needs a break. He has carried United for 2 years, played for his country at the Euro's. He played 73 matches in 2021, more than any other player in Europe.

Can he adapt to RR's style? I think he could. He was our top pressing player when he joined, he always looks to play forward quickly, and he shoots on sight.

{Ed0666's Note - BoJo would be the top scorer in Portugal. For me Fernandes is mediocre and put him in City’s or Chelsea’s team and I don’t think he’d be a standout player. He might have a few great games but so did Ross Barkley. Can he adapt to RR’s style? From what I can gather Ragnick doesn't have a style.

13.) 04 Jan 2022 20:02:52
Bolger, you're making me agree with RedWhiskey.

Take Ronaldo down from the pedestal, or as RedWhiskey puts it stop brown nosing him.

Football isn't as simple as plug in a top class player and you make the team better.

A player of Ronaldo's stature and reputation will invariably upset the balance and team dynamic.

I'm not sure what you're suggestion would be. Ronaldo will be here for another 18 months at most. Are you suggesting we buy another 10 players plus tot build the team around a player who turns 37 in a few weeks time?

Ronaldo is not the answer, and he never will be. He has upset the apple cart and in truth when you have 10 players put off by 1 then you replace the 1 player and not the 10.

14.) 04 Jan 2022 18:31:59
100% agree with you 014. I more than anyone was happy to see him come back but it was always about commercial value and not footballing reasons.

{Ed014's Note - I think it was hard for any United fan not to want him back, thinking of the Ronaldo that left and not the one he is now.

15.) 04 Jan 2022 23:01:15
Ronaldo season was summed up against Villarreal and Atlanta
Both games he walked around as team struggled, he offered no runs no threat, then bang last minute a great header and a scruffy finish in the other and walks off to all the headlines! Perfect example of papering over the cracks! The midfield isn’t great I agree but I’ve seen so many times this season where they get their head up to play forward and not one of the wide men or Ronaldo in particular show any interest in running or moving so they pass sideways or back! Thanks for the memories but get him out the side and let’s build a team ….

16.) 04 Jan 2022 22:58:34
Ed066 what a load of tosh ???.

{Ed0666's Note - I respect your musings mate



03 Dec 2021 00:28:37
Thought dalot played well tonight. Who was saying ronaldo was a mistake?

With cavani out, Greenwood not ready and martial well martial, who exactly would you be playing right now?


1.) 03 Dec 2021 05:24:20
He is the best Center Forward at the club and the world.
Give him half chances and he scores.
The way he anticipates opportunities is something else.

2.) 03 Dec 2021 06:09:10
There are 4-5 right in the world who are elite.
Ronaldo is one of them.
Put a good cross in and he scores.
2-3 times when he was extremely selfish, same with bruno in the end, we could have had 1-2 more goals if we passed more.
I was happy with quite a few performances yesterday.
Even though we were not amazing, we were trying to play football and not OleBall.
Given ronaldo wants to play for club and country I would love to see him not being played each and every game.
Give him a rest once every 3-4 games.

3.) 03 Dec 2021 07:41:41
Fair point on Dalot - he was good. Gaping holes down the left hand side all second half though.

4.) 03 Dec 2021 08:22:12
Old Ronaldo is a right thorn in our side eh RedWhiskey. 801 career goals, unreal.
OT was rocking when the penalty went in.

5.) 03 Dec 2021 08:23:25
i think its fair to say the left side of defence is a problem, Shaw is either up or down with his form, there's no consistency and Telles is decent going forwards but can't defend for toffee. there is a lad in the u23's who looks like he has a lot of potential, Fernandez, but again he's not ready just yet so maybe that will be an area Ralph looks to strengthen with Shaw or Telles maybe moving on.

6.) 03 Dec 2021 09:36:03
Or maybe the new manager will get a better balance to the team, get them to press more as a unit and from the front and inspire them to raise their game. Share last year was really good.

7.) 03 Dec 2021 11:19:44
wiggy -we can add williams back to the squad that could work at right or left hand side.? Early days but the press might not be far off the mark with the quoted 5/ 6 players moving on soon.
Was absolutely buzzing last night but still cannot get away from the puzzle- why pay 73m for a player to play on the right and put him on the left? Again Rashford another frustrating performance.

8.) 03 Dec 2021 12:36:23
I watched the last Norwich game, Williams did very little. Ok, it was 1 game but I think we need an upgrade for both full backs.

9.) 03 Dec 2021 16:54:47
probably tony just saying we have a defender that can play both sides and had a workrate ethic to his game when he was getting minutes. The fullbacks that would be on my wishlist are probably not available tbf.

10.) 03 Dec 2021 17:04:25
Williams is nowhere near good enough for top teams in premier, AWB is nowhere good enough either, Or is Shaw I even said that months ago and got my head bitten of even had someone telling me Shaw is one of the best left backs in the world, strangely enough now lots are seeing it, we need better full backs, can’t keep having moves break down because full backs not good enough and full backs dithering on ball, AWB prime example of that, sadly would never get anywhere near 50m for him we truly had our pants pulled down with that move!

11.) 03 Dec 2021 16:07:01
From what I have read about Ragnick's style of having one FB as more of a forward threat and one as move supporting the defence we could see Dalot play a bit more as that attacking threat down the right. I think we will see some changes and possibly more in game moves as well, if Ragnick wants the team to press it could be that certain players will need to rotate as they are not used to doing that game in game out.
We could also see the best of Fred. maybe!

12.) 03 Dec 2021 16:13:02
Anyone is better then AWB going forward that’s for sure, too much breaks down with him in the side I could not care less if ever see him in a United shirt again.

13.) 03 Dec 2021 22:44:34
Lampety from Brighton is the best up and coming right back. I hope we have plans to go for him.
Agree that both first choice fullbacks are not great. I've never been a Shaw fan.

{Ed002's Note - None.}

14.) 04 Dec 2021 00:34:03
Funky, I don’t specifically think Sancho was purchased specifically to play RW. Maybe his versatility is half the appeal. Anyway I’m glad he’s hit a bit of form, after Ron he’s one of the first on the sheet for me and I took a fair bit of convincing.



29 Nov 2021 16:18:36
Sourness sticking his pad in already I see. He'll take any opportunity to have a pop at United.


1.) 29 Nov 2021 17:31:08
Of course Sourness doesn't "get" why Rangnick is a good appointment.

If you wrote a book about all the things in football Sourness does not understand it would rival War and Peace for length.

The man was a good footballer, but he's a failed manager, who has been left behind and still thinks football is the same as it was in the 1970's.

He has absolutely no relevance in the modern game as a player, as a coach, as a manager or as a pundit.

He keeps getting a mic shoved in his face simply because he'll say something stupid or controversial. Which gives the rags something to write about which sells papers and gets clicks.

Of course he doesn't see anything wrong with the United set up of "jobs for the boys", had Liverpool never gone down that route at the end of their reign at the top in the late 80's/ early 90's then Sourness would never have got the job. He's too thick or his ego is too large for him to accept he failed as a manager at Liverpool so he sees nothing wrong with United making the same mistakes.

His view that United need another quick fix is rudimentary and daft and everything I come to expect from a man who though his career as a pundit has never shown real insight in to management, the dressing room or tactics of modern football clubs. Which makes sense as he hasn't been a player for 30 years and he hasn't managed in 15 years.

If you want to laugh at a quote from a former player then Rio throwing shade on Carragher is worth a chuckle. He said he doesn't listen to him or mutes him the moment he starts talking about "what a club/ player needs to do to win a league". As in Rio's own words "he doesn't know what he's talking about as he's never won a league title".

2.) 29 Nov 2021 23:00:14
Souness is another Keane, whom I loved as a player but his role as an analyst is to say something that gets a reaction. I am waiting for both of them to mention snowflakes every broadcast.

{Ed0666's Note - Souness is one of the best pundits on TV in any country by a country mile. He’s opinionated, says it how he sees it, is a great judge of a player and doesent bow. You should hear some of the studio pundits that are employed to muse on premiership soccer in foreign countries they are abysmal. Steve nicol, Shaka Hislop, Craig Burley, Trevor Howard, Tim Sherwood and there are many others are diabolical.

3.) 29 Nov 2021 23:17:19
Everyday there is some sort of post by Carragher too. It's cringy how he has to have an opinion on all things united every day at the moment. No on cares as it always comes with a bitter tinge. I'm amazed he still has a job albeit he had to be told by S*y to disappear for a few months until things blow over. He's getting more and more wound up each day about Manchester United. Give him enough rope and he'll soon have a major brain fart.

{Ed0666's Note - you could level the same accusation against Neville about LFC

4.) 30 Nov 2021 10:22:49
Like a lot of pundits he spouts off but can't offer any alternative. Ole was rightly sacked surely he can't say that was a bad thing. He can't beleive Carrick is the answer . Its mid season. Clubs won't let managers leave, and there are few top managers available to begin with. Utd reportedly approached PSG for Poch got knocked back. Ten Hag reportedly won't move mid season.

So what's Souness solution- he doesn't have one, he will just knock Ralf and Utd cos that's his real goal - keep bashing UTD.

I remember the story of Van Persie taking his kid to school and bumping into Robbie Savage at the gates-RVP had a go at Savage which almost got physical for criticising the young players at UTD at that time on TV, saying it really affected them and he had gone overboard . Savage said something along the lines of "I know but I have to be controversial and exaggerate to be relevant in the media". Most of them are money grabbers for that very reason.



24 Nov 2021 20:56:20
One thing that has annoyed me about Oles sacking is the retention of the rest of his staff. I mean none of us know who of that staff contributed to the lack of style under ole but I do feel for ole a little having been shown the door and the rest kept on.


1.) 24 Nov 2021 21:10:02
But a new coach usually brings his own backroom staff.
Who else would do any type of training until one is appointed? Maybe Woodward and Fergie are in their trackie bottoms right now.

2.) 24 Nov 2021 21:24:02
I think everyone feels the same but if they all left o Sunday who else is left to put the cones out?




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16 Jan 2022 16:18:05
Think you'll find van der gouw was never touted as a replacement for schmeichel, he was an understudy.




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14 Jan 2022 16:42:28
Haidara most definitely won't be playing as one of the attacking two midfielders if we sign him, where on Earth do you get this stuff from? ?.




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14 Jan 2022 16:39:55
Henderson isn't even the best English keeper around at the moment so he certainly shouldn't be no1 over DDG.




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12 Nov 2021 01:08:23
Chong was showing some worth at Birmingham before his injury. Got motm a few times and played great as wing back and even more so in the centre of the park. Definitely knows how to track back and put in the effort.




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12 Nov 2021 01:06:54
Whilst I don't think mctominay has discipline enough to play dm at a great level, I definitely think he can do a job there. Especially with him experiencing gametime at cb with scotland.

Him with dvb is how I would go for sure. Dvb with matic some games too.





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20 Jan 2022 18:22:32
He's doing great IMO. Put players in their place and seems to have realised the 4222 allowed us to be over run in midfield.




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14 Jan 2022 09:05:07
You're joking right?




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08 Jan 2022 16:33:38
Not defensive there dbrooks90, lad was only pointing out an interview.




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06 Jan 2022 10:47:15
Fergie didn't ship ronaldo out though, he wanted to leave.




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05 Jan 2022 14:47:15
Why is it not believable spenno? I'd be p. ed regardless of who I am and who he is, if he isn't playing well and getting picked still.