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02 Feb 2025 12:06:03
Dorgu deal complete. £30 million seems reasonable.
What strikes me most is he has scored 5 times in 57 games for a team that is 15th in serie A and have only scored 18 goals this season.
1.) 02 Feb 2025 19:37:53
Remember when we got another leftback in Telles… Porto’s top scorer at the time. What a shower of dross he was. Let’s hope the kid can settle quickly and add some balance to our shape.
2.) 02 Feb 2025 20:02:07
Telles might actually be decent in Amorim’s for action ?.
14 Oct 2024 16:34:28
Hello Ed002, do you know how how much it would cost Utd to buy back Angel Gomes?
I think a midfield of Ugarte, Gomes and Mainoo would be well balanced and could grow nicely together.
{Ed002's Note - Nothing, he is a Free Agent in the summer.}
1.) 14 Oct 2024 19:07:09
Nowhere near good enough.
2.) 14 Oct 2024 20:50:58
Thanks Ed002.
Utd need a passer in midfield. A metronome who keeps the ball and starts the play.
Utd have limited funds
Gomes is young and free. He might not be top tier but he's good enough to play for England and he is only going to get better.
{Ed002's Note - Angel Gomes (CM) Newcastle will push Lille for a January deal before he can leave as a Free Agent in the summer. Spurs and Manchester United may also show an interest.}
14 Oct 2024 16:34:28
Hello Ed002, do you know how how much it would cost Utd to buy back Angel Gomes?
I think a midfield of Ugarte, Gomes and Mainoo would be well balanced and could grow nicely together.
{Ed002's Note - Nothing. He will be a Free Agent in the summer.}
10 Sep 2024 09:06:27
Ed002, if you don't mind please.
Do you know if Utd have a buy back clause for Angel Gomes?
{Ed002's Note - No, but hw is out of contract in the summer.}
1.) 10 Sep 2024 09:33:42
Hi Ed002, is he of interest to United by any chance?
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
2.) 10 Sep 2024 18:28:04
Should be of interest as he is a very talented player and seemingly matured a lot playing abroad.
3.) 11 Sep 2024 04:13:32
Him, Ugarte, Mainoo, great depth for MF.
4.) 11 Sep 2024 09:24:17
Home grown aswell.
5.) 11 Sep 2024 13:35:23
Despite some on here claiming he isn't built for the EPL. I think he would be ideal for us. Would be a great replacement for Eriksen. Another academy graduate too, but that's just a plus. He has to be good enough, which I believe he clearly is.
6.) 11 Sep 2024 13:55:37
Depends on if he's willing to play the eriksen role, i.e cover/ the bench.
7.) 11 Sep 2024 20:16:47
One saw Gomes as am attacking midfielder. Nicky Butt, head of the academy saw him in the pivot, Butt left because he didn't feel he fitted in with the people running the show.
Games left United went to Lille who used him in the role Butt saw for him. Meanwhile United haven't been able to properly solve that position at all in the intervening years.
I haven't seen enough of Gomes to comment with any great authority on how good he eally is but he looks like he is good enough in that position to have been better than some of the players we have had playing their over the last 2 years at least.
Hindsight may well decide United made a mess of this.
8.) 12 Sep 2024 08:14:11
Oakbark, he wasn't ready at the time for any particular role. Going out and playing in a different league, playing himself into the English side was the right thing for him to do at the time.
But now he will be a free transfer. So I think it would make sense to try and re sign him.
9.) 12 Sep 2024 09:29:22
While not on the same level he has grown into a similar player to Luka Modric. Very slight, but uses that to his advantage to make space for himself in tight and congested areas in midfield. Modric needed a little time playing wide in the EPL before he moved back into the heart of midfield as he got into his mid-twenties. Gomes looks like he's needed to take a similar pathway.
He has great technical ability, vision and passing range.
Lots of hype around him atm due to his England call up and performances. Yet as a homegrown player who knows the club, plays in a position we need more depth, and has skills we need, there is a lot to like, especially available on a free transfer.
Definitely one to keep an eye on and I hope he's being scouted. On paper his skills and ability would pair really well with Ugarte in a double pivot. With the Uruguayan adding the steel to Gomes's silk.
It would also free Mainoo to roam higher up the pitch, where he can influence the game in an attacking sense. Which to me looks like the best use of Kobbie's skills. Roaming link player who can defend from the front, play those little bounce passes to release a forward, or skip past a tackle and open up space himself either for a shot or to play the killer ball.
Angel is certainly a player I'll be trying to watch a bit more over this season for Lille.
10.) 12 Sep 2024 11:19:05
He'd be a brilliant free signing, but one imagines there'll be a very long queue of the top sides in England. We might be among the more appealing with the likes of Eriksen/ Cas likely to depart sooner rather than later.
11.) 12 Sep 2024 11:56:02
We seriously lack a player that can hold onto the ball in that no 6 position. If we can get him on a free, fantastic.
12.) 12 Sep 2024 15:26:41
Shappy,
Great post mate.
13.) 12 Sep 2024 16:31:44
Very good post Shappy, agree with everything you said.
He has said, when asked about returning a while back, OT was his home, mind you, they all say thing's like that.
He is Nani's godson so maybe he will give him some good advice!
14.) 12 Sep 2024 18:24:45
He's actually cousins with or a nephew to Nani I think.
15.) 12 Sep 2024 22:39:07
I agree Angel Red. I think Carrick was the last player utd had of that type and his last game was 6 years ago.
Utd are lacking any control in Midfield so a player who can retain possession, progress the ball and dictate play is desperately needed.
If this allows Mainoo to play further forward and displace Fernandez then Utd will have even more possession and control as a result.
16.) 13 Sep 2024 00:06:09
Unruly, afraid you are wrong, Angel Gomes is the godson of Nani.
17.) 13 Sep 2024 14:59:06
You are right IWOTB. Just saw an article about it.
18.) 16 Sep 2024 13:23:51
Fair one Shappy, I actually read that post ??.
19.) 18 Sep 2024 20:19:03
I like Gomes but the PL is a different proposition than French and international football. I’m not sure he is the answer to the high press and high paced midfields dominating the league right now. I think to be successful now you need a good engine, physically, mobility and technique- Gomes has some of these traits but not all of them. I think he’s this will make replacing Casimero and Eriksen a headache for the United recruitment team.
Does anyone know the people we are targeting for next summer?
21 Aug 2024 15:38:37
Hi ed002, hope you're well.
Anything in the Sancho to Chelsea rumours?
Is it dependent on whether Sterling leaves for Juventus?
{Ed002's Note - Jadon Sancho (W) Borussia Dortmund would take the player back but will not pay more than half of what they sold him for and will step back unless the demands of the player and club are more reasonable, or a further loan is offered. Newcastle may have provided an option but signed an alternative. Agent approached Spurs but they can be discounted. Perhaps a loan to buy for Barcelona or Juventus, but they will not accept an obligation to buy. RBL may be open to a discussion.}
1.) 21 Aug 2024 16:56:12
Thanks for all these updates Ed002, it's been really insightful.
2.) 21 Aug 2024 18:09:51
I suppose sitting around on the bench for the next 2 years while making £15m a year could be appealing, but having already made more money in the last 3 years than most will make in a lifetime, I for one would be more than delighted to renegotiate my pay package for an opportunity to play regularly. IF BD were prepared to pay half of his transfer cost wouldn't that leave a small book profit?
3.) 21 Aug 2024 19:06:25
I saw the links to Chelsea over last few days, its nonsense surely, they wouldn't would they?
They really need to reduce their squad not bring in United's problem child.
4.) 21 Aug 2024 19:53:05
Thanks Ed002
Shawthing, I'm not he's bothered about playing. It didn't look like it even when he was on the pitch.
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18 May 2025 13:12:49
Is Wednesday Utd's biggest game in 14 years?
They've been abysmal all season and ridden their luck in this competition, but then again Spurs have been really poor ss well.
Whichever team wins it will be a bit of a travesty.
I just hope Utds luck can hold one last time .
1.) 18 May 2025 14:25:20
It will be an embarrassment for either of them to be in a league of ‘champions’ next season but we don’t make the rules.
2.) 18 May 2025 15:17:06
Spenno hardly a league of champions
Everyone knows the rules before the start they can’t start moaning now.
3.) 18 May 2025 18:08:41
Very confused by this nonsense around the winner getting CL. It’s happened for 10 years, don’t believe the nonsense from so called experts, everyone knows the rules before they start and it will be far from a travesty if we win it.
4.) 18 May 2025 18:27:21
Why would it be embarrassing? Bone fide qualification. Winning something to qualify is better than finishing 5th or even a distant second.
A disastrous league campaign but despite a crap start we have been the best team in the comp.
Spurs have done well also and whoever wins will fully deserve their cl spot.
Great rewards come with it. So I can't understand anyone's thinking that we would be better off not in it.
5.) 18 May 2025 18:35:59
If he wins this trophy and cracks on, no one will remember the league finish in a couple of years.
6.) 18 May 2025 18:45:07
Tell that to Sevilla.
7.) 18 May 2025 19:04:44
Next season's performance in the Champions League will determine whether it's an embarrassment or not for either team. As for this season, as poor as United and Spurs have been domestically, they have seen off the best of the rest of Europe's qualifiers, including Bilbao, a qualifier for next year's Champions League.
8.) 18 May 2025 19:21:00
I didn’t say I wouldn’t take it lol, we need all the help we can get.
9.) 18 May 2025 19:57:12
I think 9 of the league in el this season will be in champions league next season.
10.) 19 May 2025 07:08:26
It is crap that so many teams get into the “Champions’ League by “back door”. It has diminished the competition immensely. Cup winners from all European leagues should go into the cup winners cup in an old school way and Champions into the Champions league. Reduce the number of games overall.
But if that the rules then so be it. Whilst the doors are open then take advantage where you can. Why wouldn’t you?
Doesn't mean it’s ideal though.
11.) 19 May 2025 07:59:13
Keefy,
Let’s allow pass backs as well and go back to 2 subs on the bench. The game has evolved, European completions have evolved, your suggestion just wouldn’t work in this day and age. Our top teams are power houses because of their forays into Europe, nobody is agreeing to hardly any teams being there again. Maybe teams could win the CL beating Club Brugge in the final again, them were the days.
12.) 19 May 2025 08:28:04
That's fine, GDS, but the Champions League should be renamed then. Bit of a misnomer to say the least.
13.) 19 May 2025 09:52:05
'Top Three or Four League' just doesn't have the same ring to it though.
14.) 19 May 2025 10:21:38
It’s all about money…. But saying that some of the best games this season have been in the champs league, the one we are in and the one Chelsea are in are total crap, so many poor poor teams, you really only have to look at the final to see that, ok one poor team can get to a final, but two shows it’s bit of a joke.
Like people that refer to Rasmus goal last year in Europe all against shockingly bad teams that would struggle to stay in EPL.
15.) 19 May 2025 10:24:15
Think I said if that's the rules then so be it.
Doesn’t mean it’s have to like it.
The fact that two teams in 16th and 17th place are in the “Champions’ League is farcical.
It’s losing its prestige in my very humble and old aged opinion and adds to the number of Ganges that so many complain about.
Evolved? I am not so sure.
16.) 19 May 2025 10:52:15
We didn't win the league the year before we won it last 2 times. Maybe we should scratch them from the record books as we were not champions.
9 of the 32 in el will play cl next season so can't be that bad.
Psg only scraped through the league phase.
17.) 19 May 2025 11:14:22
I guess in it's defence and to shoot down my own criticisms at the top of the thread, it's called the Champions League, not the Champions of the Prem League, so effectively can encompass any team that wins any competition it cares to include. But a bit like the plans to expand the World Cup, it does dilute its stock somewhat IMO.
18.) 19 May 2025 12:35:51
I think the opposite spenno a comp including the best 4 or 5 teams from the stronger league is a better comp than including the likes of Linfield salmon or shamrock rovers because they won their national league.
It doesn't file the comp it makes it stronger.
The intl one is different that does dilute the comp as you are adding inferior sides to the draw not superior ones.
19.) 19 May 2025 13:43:05
Not saying that either. Again if that's the rules then so be it.
Just think it’s becoming a bit diluted and means too many games. But hey ho
Just an opinion.
20.) 19 May 2025 14:31:17
Yes, exactly what I said lol.
21.) 19 May 2025 15:40:36
Keefy both times we won the comp under fergie you think we should have been in it and that we diluted the competition?
22.) 19 May 2025 18:37:56
As much as I loved being in Barcelona in 99, no, we shouldn't have, imo. But as champions many other times, our chances would have been good for a couple of wins anyway, playing just against other champions. Just rename the thing. It's not fooling anybody. It's a European super league in all but name.
23.) 19 May 2025 23:07:37
Again that’s not what I am saying. But go ahead and bang yer drum!
24.) 20 May 2025 08:55:26
If Utd win against spurs they qualify for Champions League. We would qualify by being the CHAMPIONS of the Europa League - which we only qualified for by being CHAMPIONS of the FA Cup. Which happened the year after we were CHAMPIONS of the League Cup.
Not many clubs more worthy in my opinion.
28 Apr 2025 11:05:03
While Utd undoubtedly need a decent centre forward or two, to win things goals need to come from the whole team.
If you look at Liverpools scorers this season, their goals have come from 14 different players. Arsenal are an even better example with numerous midfielders and defenders contributing 5, 6, 7 goals.
Utd create loads of chances but no one in the team seems capable of finishing.
Anorim should have the whole squad spend the whole summer just practising shooting.
1.) 28 Apr 2025 12:06:21
Manc man
They do not create loads of chances. Our stats are padded by stupid shots from 25 yards. Almost every cross is a cutback. We make terrible decisions in that attacking 3rd.
2.) 28 Apr 2025 12:39:41
I agree DB - Just haven't decided if that's down to coaching, discipline, ability, or a combination of the three.
3.) 28 Apr 2025 15:27:07
I think with Liverpool, you have to acknowledge the greatness of Salah. Liverpool have coped without a top class striker because Salah scores so many goals and creates so many chances for others.
Bruno gives us the chance creation, but without Salah’s goal threat. I think Arsenal is the better comparison. They have players that create a lot of chances, but lack scorers to put these chances away.
United are a massive step down from that because they rely on one player to create most of the chances, and have worse players on the end of these chances. Plus, Arsenal’s defence is head and shoulders above ours.
I think that an established goal scorer and a new keeper should be the main priorities this summer. We need a genuine goal threat to occupy defenders, and someone who our own defence can trust not to make clanger after clanger.
4.) 29 Apr 2025 12:54:09
Dodgy, I see Utd players miss plenty of good chances in every game. Mainly through poor shooting.
01 Apr 2025 23:27:25
Is Anorim Portuguese for Allerdyce? Get the big lad up front. Ugh.
1.) 02 Apr 2025 00:48:49
Almost worked didn’t it? They had 5 at the back including 3 centre backs, they used their spoiling tactics faking injuries and taking 2-3 minutes to take every goal kick, they cleared everything, Maguire almost got the equaliser, people complain Amorim only has one way of playing so can’t complain when he tries something different. I can’t believe we lost that game to be honest, had more than enough chances to win 3 games, but sums up both teams this season.
2.) 02 Apr 2025 06:35:02
I honestly thought that’s the best we had played for ages, but having a toothless attack is always going to be a problem.
Ugarte was very poor as was Mazzouri, Dorgu was not great either, but our strikers/ goal scorers are abysmal, anyone who still thinks Garnacho is a work in progress …. well as for Rasmus just as useless
The only one of the above you can cut some slack is Dorgu, being new signing and missed games, the others just get rid, nowhere near good enough.
3.) 02 Apr 2025 06:56:18
Having to put Harry up top is something SAF would also have done, but it’s a damning indictment of our forwards. Zirkzee and Hojland are not goal scoring forwards and it’s ridiculous we were left in this position. A club that once had four top strikers now has none.
I thought we actually played some really nice football and dominated the game. The stats are very one sided. Garnacho was awful until switched to the left, improved but still not good on the night.
I still saw a good structure and hope, but it needs someone to put the ball in the net. Harry looked more likely in ten minutes than H and J have all season.
4.) 02 Apr 2025 07:44:45
Can’t say the writing wasn’t on the wall, a side that struggles to score vs statistically the best defensive unit in the league with most clean sheets. But saying that, one half decent striker and we’d win that three times over.
5.) 02 Apr 2025 09:53:05
We had chances GDS but Garnacho had 6 (0 on target), Dorgu 4 (1 on target), Casimiro 3 and Hoijland 1. Of course Harry had the best chance. But the point is I guess that our strikers had 1 shot on target between them. I'm not sure if the problem is them or the service but it needs to improve.
6.) 02 Apr 2025 11:13:49
Banjos
I won’t excuse Garnacho last night but the two strikers movement and danger in the box is non existent. Seen some good and great strikers down the many years and our present two don’t create danger in the box. It’s poor.
7.) 02 Apr 2025 12:11:53
If we had Harry Kane up front he would have scored 20 goals this season, the service isn’t great but the movement and finishing is horrific so they never look like scoring.
8.) 02 Apr 2025 12:48:25
I hate that I'm even asking this but should Maguire play up front for the rest of the season?
He can't be any less effective.
9.) 02 Apr 2025 13:44:56
Haha mancman I was laughing with the lads on the way home from Nottingham last night saying it would be funny if we started the derby with Maguire up top.
10.) 02 Apr 2025 13:51:47
Guys it’s basic maths, Hoijland‘s shot accuracy is good, it’s greater than 50%, in his first season his shot conversion % stats were the best in the league. He gets approx 1 shot per game, which is terrible. We had 24 shots on goal yesterday most of which were outside the box. We do not have a striker issue, we have a chance creation issue. Salah and Haaland get over 3.5 shots per game, go and look at the French league the two highest scorers, Dembele and Greenwood have the highest shots per game at around 3.5.
Let’s look at Amourims striker at sporting, Gyökeres, 4 shots per game. Trincoa is the next highest in the league on 3 HOWEVER he also has the top assist stats in the league with 11.
We have greedy players who shoot from distance rather than look to play the attacker in. A shot from distance is a very low probability shot. You could put prime Brazilian Ranaldo up front, he’s getting 1 shot a game and will score chuff all, its basic maths.
This isn’t new, we’ve had this for years, literally probably 10 years of the wide players cutting in and shooting outside the box, Bruno shooting outside the box.
Defensively we look much better, Dorgu looks like a player, considering he’s new that’s some achievement. We need to get more penetration on the right, which Amad did a great job of. Changing the two 10 positions to players that look to play in rather than shoot will transform this team.
11.) 02 Apr 2025 14:48:24
Not sure how Yates didn't even get a booking last night, acting a complete c**t the whole game. Pushing Bruno then falling over as if he'd been hit, taking out Bruno on a counter, why does he not get booked? It would have been looked at.
The keeper who took an age everytime was able to just continue doing the same, small steps. place the ball down, pick it up again, put it down . Some of the throw ins, freekicks were mind boggling for those given and those not given. The referee as I see more often just submits or plays up to the crowd.
12.) 02 Apr 2025 15:40:32
Rewz
Why does Hojland only get one shot? Look at his presence, his movement, his positioning in the box, not good enough. I watched more action from the young Obi to get himself away from defenders in our sub appearance than a season of Hojland.
Try getting to the game early and watch Hojland warm up. Unless improved from last season, it was not impressive.
Maybe he is young and inexperienced but he isn’t getting himself into positions, forcing errors. He isn’t showing he is good enough as yet.
13.) 02 Apr 2025 16:24:21
That's an interesting take on things Rewz and I don't disagree.
Utd have spent £73 million on Hojlund so I'm not sure he can or should be easily discarded.
It's true that he needs more opportunities to score. He needs more coaching to make sure he makes the right runs and he definitely needs more supply from the players around him.
I think Hojlund deserves some credit for keeping going when he must be frustrated and his confidence must be shot.
In my view Fernandez shouldn't be playing at 10 and I'm running out of patience with Garnacho. He's great at getting himself into good positions with the ball but his shooting is terrible and his decision making is poor. I don't know if improvements in those areas can be coached into him. If a decent offer comes for him I say Utd should sell.
14.) 02 Apr 2025 16:35:59
Today's interesting fact doing the rounds, that had it appeared yesterday one would assume was an April Fool: Harry Maguire accumulated more xG in added time against Nottingham Forest than Rasmus Hojlund has in his last 15 appearances.
15.) 03 Apr 2025 23:19:47
Although I don't necessarily disagree that Garnacho needs to look up more, I'm not convinced greed is the sole cause of the players more often than than not opting for a long shot. They don't have the eye for the clever pass, and they don't trust the option waiting for them if they do find someone. I'd probably take a punt myself if I looked up and Hojlund was unmarked in the 6 yard box!
23 Mar 2025 03:45:16
I feel like I've seen it all now.
Newspaper headline "Rashford could be more important to Tuchel’s England than Palmer or Saka"
It's a weird choice of player for Tuchel. Mainly because Rashford isn't very good and hasn't set the world alive at Villa.
Either Tuchel or Amorim is wrong about Rashford. My feeling is it's Tuchel who will drop him in a few matches.
1.) 23 Mar 2025 08:21:29
Mancman
In terms of what you posted, that’s not what I read. 'We hope for more impact in these positions, ' Tuchel said after the match about wide players. 'More dribbling and more aggressive runs towards the box. In general, that was missing. The chances come from the little runs behind the line. They were not as decisive as they can be. It was a little bit too much passing, not enough dribbling, not aggressive enough towards goal. '
That was aimed apparently at Foden and Rashford. It depends on where you read it, don’t forget Rashford seems to have a PR department.
I still hope we get good money for Rashford in summer.
2.) 23 Mar 2025 10:19:28
I think Rashford has the potential to be an important impact player for England.
England are blessed with a lot of attacking midfielders/ wide players who want to ball to feet. Saka, Foden, Grealish, Palmer, Gordon, Bellingham, Rodgers, Eze, Bowen etc all want the ball to feet.
Rashford along with Sterling are one of only a few who are happy to have the ball played in front of them for them to run onto. Making Rashford a fairly unique profile of player available to the England manager.
This is exasperated further when you think about the striker options as well, Kane and Watkins are players who prefer to drop deep and link play rather than play on the shoulder of the last man and look to run in behind.
Rashford is nowhere near England's best player, but due to his fairly unique profile amongst the England squad he could be one of the most important players as simply there just aren't many other options to offer the team what he offers.
As United fans I feel we are all jaded with Rashford, but he is a far better player than he has shown at United for the past 18 months. If he can get back to somewhere close to his best he is a top player, and certainly someone who can offer something important at international level.
{Ed077's Note - but first he needs to start playing well, find form and stay fit
3.) 23 Mar 2025 10:38:38
I don’t understand how anyone would play him ahead of Gordon. Rashford is talented, but even at his best, Gordon offers more.
4.) 23 Mar 2025 12:30:25
Redman, the article was by Jonathan Wilson in the Guardian. It makes pretty much the same argument as Shappy.
Regardless of how Rashford plays football, the fact remains that he is largely ineffectual as a player. Like you say Shappy, we've seen this at Utd over many games.
Tuchel. has already critised Rashford (and Foden) and that's just after one game.
The concept of having a runner into space is sound, but it needs to be a decent player which Rashford has proved not be be.
Also, if you're saying that Rashford will prove to be a good pick for England, then you're also saying that Anorim got him all wrong and should have managed him better.
5.) 23 Mar 2025 12:35:23
Poor first touch. Not good when in a tight corner. Often wasteful in his passing. How defense is quite poor. He's a player who needs wide open spaces. Even then he's lost a step compared to many of the modern defenders.
6.) 23 Mar 2025 18:10:26
Mancman
Ah the Guardian, say no more.
No thought I was very clear. I don’t think Rashford will suddenly prove to be a good pick for United or England. Lost his way. Needs space to run into with a team pushed up.
7.) 24 Mar 2025 08:25:01
His 0 goals in 9 games for Villa have somehow made the press think he’s ‘back’, the amount he must pay his PR team must be crazy.
8.) 24 Mar 2025 08:30:37
What’s wrong with the Guardian?
9.) 24 Mar 2025 10:29:23
Jesus, Rashford really rattles people on here ?.
10.) 24 Mar 2025 11:43:06
Angel, I'm not rattled about Rashford. I'm just surprised Tuchel has selected him for England given how Anorim went out of his way to get rid of him.
11.) 24 Mar 2025 13:47:41
Yesterday's man thankfully. Not playing for us so he is irrelevant imo. Some he is gone the better.
The hype surrounding him for a guy who produces pretty poor results is not justified.
Hope to never see him at OT again. But I wish him well like the vast majority of our ex employees when he is eventually sold this summer.
12.) 25 Mar 2025 13:17:46
I loved rashford, but I've seen much better players leave the club than him.
Couldn't care less what's being said about him tbh.
13.) 25 Mar 2025 14:58:02
The king is dead long live the new king deano.
If he doesn't play for us I couldn't give a damn what he is up to elsewhere.
15 Feb 2025 21:22:28
I've just read that Utd are making big cuts to their scouting network.
For a club that now needs to be extra good at scouting that sounds like a pretty stupid move.
1.) 15 Feb 2025 22:03:34
To be fair, our recent scouting outcomes haven’t exactly proved successful ?.
2.) 15 Feb 2025 22:40:00
Lots of stories of scouts recommending world class players and the club deciding not to go for them.
3.) 16 Feb 2025 02:25:00
Apparently we had 200! Do we really need so many? Does anyone on this site know how many other top clubs employ?
4.) 16 Feb 2025 10:26:11
Salford
No mate, we apparently have an 80-strong scouting network, the figure of 200 applies to the maximum total of the next redundancies phase which will certainly include a good chunk of the scouting group.
I believe, from what I've read, that the strategy is to focus the domestic youth scouting on more data-driven principles while doing away with many of the 'lesser' scouts who seem not to be meeting the targets.
While not a comprehensive gauge, Transfermarkt has us as having a principle contingent of 41 scouts, whereas Liverpool have 24, City have 25, Arsenal have 24, Chelsea have 30, and Spurs have 9?
I would conclude that this might suggest the other 'Top 6' clubs are focusing less on the traditional, in-person, core principle of scouting and using the available technology better with perhaps better data people looking at it.
The suggestion is that there's too many cooks in the kitchen and the decent cooks might need better equipment.
SJR isn't getting everything right, but I think our scouting network has let us down badly on many occasions over the last decade and, imo, it's very much time to trim the fat.
5.) 16 Feb 2025 10:51:03
Salford,
No of course they don’t but don’t let that get in the way of the bad press and complaining about everything. People hated the way the Glazers were running the club, wasting money all over the place, yes someone has come in to try and run it differently and more sustainably and people are complaining about that too.
6.) 16 Feb 2025 11:31:33
By all accounts the scouts themselves haven’t been to blame - there have been a few instances where they highlighted potential gems (Caicedo springs to mind) but were ignored. It’s the decision making above them that needs to change. But yeah, 80 scouts or whatever it is sounds pretty OTT tbf.
7.) 16 Feb 2025 14:08:39
Spenno
Agreed but, since the executive incompetents have been replaced, it's now time to look at those not performing further down.
Vivell's would be the head to roll if the scouting network doesn't step up, but I think the capture of Diego Leon via the work conducted by Guiseppe Antonaccio suggests that, at least somewhere in the structure, improvements have been found.
8.) 16 Feb 2025 15:09:51
Let’s revisit that when we see how good Leon is :D
But yeah, there definitely seems to have been a shift in terms of the recent youths coming in. Looking forward to seeing the latest ‘fledglings’!
19 May 2025 21:20:47
I'd like to see an experienced keeper like Martinez for a couple of years, especially with the inexperienced defenders we have; Heaven and Yoro.
Apparently there are some young keepers at Utd with real potential, who could maybe step up as the no 2? Or have I got that wrong?
01 May 2025 12:38:23
Sure, sell Gore.
I actually quite like Ugarte and Bruno as a midfield pairing. I think it gets the best out of Bruno.
I'd rather Utd buy a pair of 10s or a 10 and a RWB depending on where Amad plays.
Collyer did well and needs more games. Kone is coming through. Let's see what happens.
Up front and GK are the priorities. Midfield can wait another year
The only issue will be if Bruno leaves and TBH I wouldn't blame him. Then Utd really are in trouble.
02 Feb 2025 11:58:37
Who cares where he goes. £365k a week off the wages.
Ta ra Marcus.
31 Jan 2025 07:41:54
Fair enough GDS2. it is a rumour though and this is a rumour site.
Now I'm wondering what other gossip is being held back ?.
30 Jan 2025 15:36:26
Bloody brilliant rumour by the way. Just what this site was created for. Can't believe you didn't share it GDS2 if you heard it before.
20 May 2025 14:57:27
I don't understand you're problem with DeLigt.
I think he is quality.
19 May 2025 14:09:56
Always nice to see a gracious winner. Thanks for the good wishes.
19 May 2025 09:52:05
'Top Three or Four League' just doesn't have the same ring to it though.
17 May 2025 09:29:57
I agree; there's no point in playing him. Waste of a shirt.
I'd go with either Amad up top running in behind or (can't believe i'm saying this) Maguire who will at least provide a presence and occupy their centre backs.
16 May 2025 10:02:29
Utd need a passing central midfielder. A metronome who can dictate the game.
I don't know if Gomes is good enough to fulfil this role in the Premier League, but Utd need someone to control the midfield. They've not had anyone since Carrick.