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13 Feb 2020 09:25:13

See talk that we tried to get Corentin Tolisso from Byaern on loan in January, but due to an injury crisis they would'nt let him go .

Any truth in this and are the club interested in follwing up with an offer in the summer?


{Ed002's Note - Corentin Tolisso (CM) An apt time to ask. Bayern Munich have made the player available for sale as they look to a shake up of the team and want to clear some out in the summer - and with Gretzka, Thiago and the up and coming Cuisance all playing in the same central midfield position, Tolisso is seen as surplus. Tolisso also had a serious injury issue last season but apparently all is well now - aside from niggling stuff. His representatives fielded several requests for loans from France and England in January but, like the agents of Thomas Muller and Jerome Boateng, he knew Bayern Munich would not be doing any business over the winter. There has been a discussion with one specific French side about the possibility of a summer move and the lady involved they may just be interested if a suitable price was proposed given the injury history. There has also been a discussion with Napoli as a potential Fabian Ruiz replacement - but they are still sorting themselves out from their problems and have no immediate interest. If the price suits it is expected Arsenal will be approached to see if previous interest remains given the situation with Dani Ceballos - but right now they are heading in a different direction as well. A return to Lyon will no doubt have been discussed with the player but even if they let Houssem Aouar leave this coming summer the addition of the vesatile Bruno Guimaraes will already have covered that.}

1.) 13 Feb 2020 10:45:31
Thanks for that Ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}



07 Aug 2019 19:22:59
Inaki Williams may just be the final straw for this particular transfer window.


1.) 07 Aug 2019 19:34:48
That bang anyone just heard was my head exploding, I hate transfer windows.



22 Aug 2016 14:10:58
Cameron Borthwick Jackson out on loan to Wolves for the season . Jose insists he still remains part of his plans in the long term but I doubt very much he'll be seen in a United shirt again.


1.) 22 Aug 2016 14:51:33
I think we will, he is a player who looks like he has all the tools to become a great player, he just needs to keep his head straight and concentrate on the football.

2.) 22 Aug 2016 16:12:59
I reckon it's more an admission that we're struggling to move Rojo out. With Shaw, Rojo, Darmain and Blind I'd imagine CBJ would struggle for games, and it's best for his development to get regular first team games at a competitive level. He'd be more ready next year when we've thinned the squad players a bit to give him more minutes.

3.) 22 Aug 2016 17:43:25
Yep we're struggling to offload rojo an Darmian because of wages.

4.) 23 Aug 2016 22:15:30
we have a call back clause in his loan.

5.) 29 Aug 2016 15:16:52
Darmian is not on very high wages.



31 Aug 2015 23:21:34
Reports now that the De Gea deal has fallen through




16 Jul 2015 18:42:31
Evans off to Everton for 8m apparently, good luck to him and hopefully we've got someone lined up to come in


1.) 16 Jul 2015 20:19:22
Fair play I've seen him put in top performances for us. Go and get first team football lad. Good luck.

2.) 16 Jul 2015 20:46:43
Nice to see classy responses to one of our players leaving, rather than the usual, 'I'd carry him there myself' comments.

3.) 16 Jul 2015 21:00:50
I wouldn't carry him that would take too long

4.) 16 Jul 2015 21:13:11
He had potential but needed an experienced top class partner. Kept us going at the back one year and scored a couple of goals. Good luck.

5.) 16 Jul 2015 21:37:55
Carrying a dead wet log can be tiring. 😂
To be fair to the lad, he wasn't Man Utd class but always tried whenever asked to. At United, if you try enough, you have my respect. Abilities can vary. The thing I love about our club is we have tried to give chance to everyone all the time even if it has cost us. But you can't continue that if you want to win all the major honors.

6.) 16 Jul 2015 21:54:57
uses can keep him he terrible if we get i will be so annoyed

7.) 16 Jul 2015 21:55:43
Bada dum dum dum . Another one bites the dust. Think the writing was on the wall for evans after last season. Similiar to O Shea , very promising start to careers , but never seemed to improve with time. We are either going into the season with the bare essentials , or Ed has got some aces up his sleeve . That's ed Woodward by the way.

8.) 16 Jul 2015 22:05:09
Had a fantastic season 3 or 4 years back, was probably our most consistent CB that season . it wasn't all Rio and Vidic!

Wasn't great last season and it's the right time for him to move on.

9.) 16 Jul 2015 22:29:26
Never mind, Noucamp. it was good while it lasted.

He was given a chance to step up and as we all know it didn't go well. But his heart was always in it so show him some respect for at least that. I agree with Charlatan about 3 seasons ago and tbh the first shocking game he had, I was shocked to see him play so bad. Maybe if the insatiable ones got behind him rather than on his back it would have ended different, but alas it didn't.

Good luck to the guy.

10.) 16 Jul 2015 22:43:05
You're right monkey its our fault he's garbage

11.) 16 Jul 2015 23:02:46
And take a step forward, the new breed of fan - he was good a couple of seasons ago, but he was poor in an injury-hit season last year, so I want a shiny new plaything, preferably tanned.

Even if he's not now good enough to play at Utd, and LVG will be the ultimate judge of that, not a bunch of spotty, teenage fans, he's still a decent premiership centre half. Any player who leaves our club, providing they weren't cheating the fans with their lack of effort, deserves a bit of respect, rather than the childish, spoilt brat comments that flood sites like this at such times.

12.) 16 Jul 2015 23:05:39
Well we'll never know, whoatealldepays. But in my experience positivity can only breed positivity.

13.) 16 Jul 2015 23:18:30
Good player and good luck to him.

14.) 16 Jul 2015 23:25:55
I know and iv known for 7 years he's always been a liability. Iv been a part of many collective groan when he's been on the team sheet. He is the worst defender in the prem since titus brambles and how he lasted so long is an absolute miracle. Every defender that's gone before him has been a better defender. His distribution is shocking his composure is non existant. I gave an example the other day of when we was knocked out the cup by west ham when they put 4 past us and his performance was the worst defensive display iv ever seen in professional football shortly followed up by his cameo at mk dons. The only logical explanation I can think of that he's donned that red shirt for seven years is that he found a magic lamp. He is the taibi of defenders i'd rank him championship at a push.

15.) 16 Jul 2015 23:28:12
Noucamp stop acting like he was doing us a favour aswel its boring he didn't play for free and he got a lot more out of the situation than we did.

16.) 16 Jul 2015 23:27:41
Noucamp, was that directed at me?

My comment to you meant- I agreed with you, it was nice while the decent posts lasted.

Maybe, in understanding that, you will read my post in the right light.

I agree he was injured a lot but when he came back he was made to step up and it didn't work.

So, if your comment was at me. i'm effing offended. If it wasn' you were, gentlemen.

17.) 17 Jul 2015 00:02:25
You stay classy, mate.

18.) 17 Jul 2015 06:44:48
Not you, monkey. I got you :)

19.) 17 Jul 2015 08:08:28
No monkey it was at me because Noucamp has adopted this self righteousness whereas anybody who wants new players is spoilt. So just so were all clear I would want Evans gone even if a "shiny new" player wasn't brought on board because the thought of him standing in that back line for another season is too much for this 31yr old spotty teenager

20.) 17 Jul 2015 08:28:47
whoatealldepays seems just like JMB, probably just as arrogant and flipant I suppose you are going for the panto villian slot. Banter is one thing ignorance and such a dissmisive attitude is totally another. JE will leave i'm sure he has been a good sevant and has more footballing knowledge and talen in his little finger than you will ever have whoatealldepays.

21.) 17 Jul 2015 08:55:01
Evans is a good defender, but we've known for years that he was unlikely to ever amount to more than a squad player.

On the flip side of that, I often thought that under SAF it was the graft and determination of our "squad" players which did more to make this club great than the dazzling abillities of their more gifted peers. All the big clubs had some exciting stars, but only united had such a dedicated and committed bunch of squad players backing them up.

Good luck Jonny, you earned our eternal respect, even if you weren't good enough to win our love.

22.) 17 Jul 2015 09:04:28

That has got to be the most childish post I have ever seen. that's like saying Audley Harrison is a crap boxer then someone saying well he could knock you out! I am nothing like JMB I gave my opinion and was called spoilt and a spotty teenager so I gave my evaluation of noucamp. My opinions are consistent and just as anybody else has the right to voice there's i too have that right.

23.) 17 Jul 2015 09:28:40
I thought Jonny was fantastic a few years ago, never complained, always worked hard for the team, was never the most technical player but always put a shift in, to say he is the worst defender in the prem since 'Titus Brambles' is just ridiculous, Evans has premier league medals and champions league medals that he would probably wear whilst laughing at you.

Joining this site and arguing with regulars probably isn't the best way to go about it WAAD, even if you do have the best name we have seen on here for a while.

Evans has played 131 games over 7 years, some of them he has been poor but I would say in 131 of those he gave 100% effort, more than can be said for some of the prima donna's that play these days. If Jonny is to leave the sure he does so with a heavy heart and I for one wish him all the luck in the world, especially when he plays against our rivals City, Chelsea and Arsenal.

24.) 17 Jul 2015 09:51:24
We obviously see him in different lights GDS which is completely fine. My main problem is with people making assumptions about me and the driving forces behind my opinions. I also don't conform to hierarchy ie the length of time someone has posted will not affect my decision to either agreen or disagree with them. I think I provided valid points to show Evans poor displays are not limited to last season. i'm sure plenty of poor players have prem medals with utd and other teams around the world in their respective leagues that does not mean they are not poor it means the team was good. Again I am not trying to butt heads with you GDS I am merely giving you my opinions and the reasons behind them.

25.) 17 Jul 2015 10:02:25
i don't think evans has ever been a poor or below average player, he just never really made the step to top quality

26.) 17 Jul 2015 10:13:13
I am totally fine with that, I was just giving some friendly advice, this site can be like a dysfunctional family, we get on and we disagree, me and jred butt heads constantly but there is a mutual respect there (I presume from both sides, maybe he hates me).

You don't need to agree with a regular to conform to hierarchy, every single regular is happy for you to disagree with them and have your own opinion, but then you have to be able to take it when they give it back.

You made valid points to show his poor displays were not just last season, but you also called him the 'Taibi of defenders', 'worst defender in the prem' and 'garbage', which in my opinion is just total nonsense and you haven't backed them points up at all. I think a little respect for him wouldn't go amiss, that's all.

27.) 17 Jul 2015 10:52:59
Point taken mate. I can see how that may be a tad harsh, I am not and have never been a fan so maybe his errors stand out more to me but he has made some contribution to our success over the years so I guess I can give him that.

28.) 17 Jul 2015 11:28:43
To the tune of Kumbaya

She said no Jonny, she said nooooo.
She said no Jonny, she said nooooo.
She said no Jonny, she said nooooo.
Jonny she said nooooo.

Always made me laugh :-)

29.) 17 Jul 2015 22:44:40
Evans awful player never worth top half of the table team injures himself getting off the treatment table




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29 Dec 2021 10:24:06

Every time Ralf is interviewed he's talking about physicality, winning personal duels, winning the second balls etc.

I'm starting to feel like i'm listening to Sean Dyche with a German accent.

On a serious note i'm hoping that he's given some of these players a chance to do what he wants and having seen that some of them can't / won't, he'll make some big calls regarding the team for the Burnley game.


1.) 29 Dec 2021 19:30:48
Bilko you're so off the mark. He's talking about pressing high and winning the one v one high up the park. This is what all the best teams do, watch City, Liverpool, Chelsea and you'll see what he's talking about. He's not saying go and break people's legs, he's talking about ball recovery high up the pitch.
Sadly, it's an alien process to most of our players and most fans haven't seen it in years.

2.) 30 Dec 2021 10:09:55
Park Ji Sung was excellent at closing down opposition players. How I miss the old days, Rio, vidic, Scholes, etc.

3.) 30 Dec 2021 12:17:26
AAA…. He might have got that from a bunch of kids in the German leagues at little clubs but it’s different kind of thing to retrain the brain of seasoned professionals and when it’s only for 6 months anyway they think what’s the point!



26 Oct 2021 14:36:46
Fergie and Martin Edwards at the training ground today, talk about a club stuck in a time warp.

We're surely only days away from fergie coming back as manager, with Ronaldo up top and Scholes being brought out of retirement for a second time to play midfield.


1.) 26 Oct 2021 14:49:23
Toe-totally nailed it, I think bringing Scholes back would suck.

2.) 26 Oct 2021 14:56:29
haha good one GDS.



17 Sep 2021 12:09:36
Seems to me every time i listen to OGS that he's basically trying to recreate the Fergie era .

Couple of problems with that

1. Football has moved on
2. He's not Alex Ferguson

Even the signing of Ronaldo seems like some nostalgic attempt to bring back the past, except we did'nt sign 24 year old Ronaldo, we signed soon to be 37 year old Ronaldo.


1.) 17 Sep 2021 12:34:28
2 games 3 goals
Not a bad start.

Ronney and Cavani rotating upfront is electric. Greenwood learning from two of the very best. Not sure what you would see here that is worth doom mongering about.

2.) 17 Sep 2021 13:04:11

The manager looking backwards and not forwards. You learn from the past but use that learning to set the future. It seems Ole just wants to recreate the past. The problem is, that past was built on the genius of SAF, a truly great leader not just a manager. Ole is a championship standard manager with ideas of that level but is not a leader. We have to pack coaches around him because he doesn’t have the expertise on his own. We have to pack the best players yet he still produces Tuesday night. It’s not “doom mongering” to flag the reality that Bilko did, it’s what it is.

3.) 17 Sep 2021 13:51:29
Agree mostly redman but would add its still early in the season and we have a couple of important players to come back.
In saying that, I honestly feel this is the final season for OGS unless we win major silverware:ECL, EPL not the carabao or whatever. He has had the resources, players etc with the probable exception ofa DM with quality and still cannot show tactical awareness and the times to change the team- he kept Fred on after 1/ 2 time on a yellow last season and the same again within other games. Granted he hasn't got great coaching staff in Phelan, (Tosser) and carrick (raw as eggs) and the other guy who was coaching bairns not long back, but he is the manager. Worry is, who do we get to replace him?

4.) 17 Sep 2021 14:06:18
Conte is available, experienced and a winner.

5.) 17 Sep 2021 14:20:32
Pep wants a full stadium each week, he chose the wrong club for that. Come on Pep its a shorter commute for you to Old Trafford than the Eithad.

{Ed014's Note - I think he likes to watch football though, that’s where the problem is ?‍♂️

6.) 17 Sep 2021 14:47:41
He's got the likes of Phelan and Carrick alongside him because that's part of what i mean by trying to go back to the Fergie days.

7.) 17 Sep 2021 15:22:37
On the Pep and City Fans argument, why don't city just buy fans? Like rent the galatasaray/ fenerbache/ dortmund fans for the champions league or the milwall fans for the premier league.

Or they could spend on hologram fans that don't need to be replaced, would be a better investment than a back up left back for £50m.

8.) 17 Sep 2021 16:33:49
I think people tend to forget how much football has moved on. With all of the video and technology available these days, good managers can prepare in the minutest detail, those that are up for it.

We do have a lot to be excited about with all of our attacking talent. But we remain a top-heavy and imbalanced side.

9.) 17 Sep 2021 17:55:05
People forget that fergie also didn't come in and win stuff straight away, it took him time to build a team. I like ole and think his work will beqr fruits. Changing manager again will be detrimental to the work that has been put in since he came in.

10.) 17 Sep 2021 19:58:49
If I hear Ole say 'that's football' in another answer I'm going to throw my TV out the window.
Then cry and buy another one.

11.) 17 Sep 2021 21:10:34

SAF didn’t come in and win stuff straight away but the club was in a far worse mess when SAF took over, than when Ole arrived. SAF had the Aberdeen experience, Ole Cardiff, the difference utterly massive.

12.) 17 Sep 2021 18:14:44
Ed, if Pep wants to watch football he has got a TV for that.

{Ed014's Note - a double bonus! Gets to pick games with teams who play football and avoids having to go near that run down old stadium too.



31 Aug 2021 12:07:45
Going to be interesting with Ronaldo and Pogba in the side, neither of whom will do a tap when the opposition have the ball . Going to mean a lot of work for the other outfield players.


1.) 31 Aug 2021 13:14:56
Who’s going to get penalty bragging rights now? Bruno has an outstanding record but wouldn’t surprise me if Ronaldo gets them.

2.) 31 Aug 2021 13:15:07
ronaldo will play as striker, he shouldn't need to come back and defend

agree with pogba as shown weekend he is useless in cm.



05 Nov 2020 10:57:21
One of the things we were told about Ole was he was getting rid of the deadwood and bringing better players in :
Dan James - way out of his depth
AWB - 50m for a right full who's not great going forward.
Maguire : 80m for a poor man's David May
DVB : Ole doesn't seem to know what to do with him despite phoning him to tell him how he was going to fit in to his plans, to convince him to sign.


1.) 05 Nov 2020 12:57:27
Bilko there is nothing wrong with wan bissaka. I would say the issue is not having anyone in front of him with quality. Every time he gets the ball whoever is on the right in 15/ 20 yards infield.

Agree with the rest, but I doubt the manager will be here for much longer so we will see what comes next.

2.) 05 Nov 2020 13:19:18
AWB is brilliant defensively, stops crosses coming into box.
As Neville pointed out he can focus on being the best defensive fullback.
Maguire was an odd signing considering we want to play high line.
Bruno has been top class, but must be given rest at times.
DJ needs a loan to get more games under his belt.
VDB, I guess is a long time Pogba replacement.

3.) 05 Nov 2020 13:21:50
bilko, awb is the best defender is the league as a full back there is no one better, i agree he lacks any threat going forward, but if we had a right winger in front i think he would improve that side of his game.

agree with the rest.

4.) 05 Nov 2020 15:20:48
In the modern game at a big club, the full backs need to be able to attack, and for 50m you'd kind of expect that .

5.) 05 Nov 2020 15:33:08
Can’t change the player bilko or put the price tag on him. We knew what we were getting. If you had seen much of him at palace you’d not have expected much going forward. I think he’s improving in that aspect, but he’s class at what he does and deserves credit for it.

{Ed025's Note - i like him caolan, it cant be easy having millican and nesbit next to you playing cenrte halves mate..

6.) 05 Nov 2020 18:25:31
Love that 1 Ed millican and nesbitt
Perfect description.

{Ed025's Note - you remember the 70,s as well then GG.. :)




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12 Jan 2022 16:22:44
Bit harsh on Serie A there Ronan.




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31 Dec 2021 10:15:59
Let's hope for his sake the lad gets a move sooner rather than later,
and gets his career back on track.




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24 Nov 2021 15:10:12
And you can't see them giving Carrick a three year contract by the end of the season?

Carrick, Phelan and McKenna were as much part of the problem as OGS,
and yet incredibly they're still there having been given new contacts last month.




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24 Nov 2021 10:20:30
It's hard to see how someone like Valverde comes in as interim without some option in place to get the job if he hits certain targets.




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23 Nov 2021 09:50:52
Is this where we're at now lads . people seriously discussing bringing Steve Bruce in as manager until the end of the season.





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21 Jan 2022 10:27:05
Lad's, why encourage an obvious troll by engaging in debate with them?


{Ed014's Note - for me if your English isn’t great as you are from another country who do you manage to write in somewhat broken English but then say “in my view that will end in tears come May” a typically English saying and big give away for me.

But hey, each to their own!



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20 Jan 2022 11:14:41
In 2003 he was a teenager, now he's in his late thirties and has kids who would'nt carry on like he does sometimes.




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20 Jan 2022 10:49:02
Ronny is 37 in a couple of weeks, someone needs to sit him down and explain there's no way he's going to play every minute of every game, especially with younger legs on the bench to bring on, and then tell him to drop his hissy fits for the cameras and show some respect to his manager and team mates, and if he does'nt like that there's always PSG .




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19 Jan 2022 11:00:50
Mr Bailey could just be making that up but if not I wonder who at the club would have an interest in leaking something like that to undermine Rangnick?




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18 Jan 2022 14:15:53
I worry that Fergie has far too much influence and that's why we have Darren Fletcher as 'technical director', Ronaldo back at the club, Poch probably incoming as manager and talk of signing John McGinn.