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19 Aug 2022 17:02:13
Every time we look like making a signing it gets criticised, to old to expensive passed his best won't fit the way we play, desperate, if same player linked to city/ Liverpool he would be a good signing, joke.
Shout out to klopp for calling gabby A out, i except criticism but it's hard from a bang average player who was lucky if he had 3 good seasons in his career.
{Ed001's Note - did autocorrect change games for seasons?}
1.) 19 Aug 2022 17:17:28
??that or Guinness.
27 Nov 2021 18:12:00
Watching Brighton v Leeds, sign lampty b4 someone else does please ?.
1.) 27 Nov 2021 18:18:38
Hell of a player, I think he could be awesome for a top side. So so good going forward, could you imagine him overlapping Sancho.
2.) 27 Nov 2021 18:35:44
I like him, whether they decide to go older ie Trippier or younger as competition to AWB this kid is a great player.
3.) 27 Nov 2021 18:50:22
Tino Livermento at Southampton looks a real player as well. Not as quick and dynamic but silky on the ball.
{Ed001's Note - you lot do know Lamptey is a right midfielder not a full-back don't you??}
4.) 27 Nov 2021 19:48:20
Must be a different RWB called Lamptey I've been watching then.
To be fair I see him as being pretty versatile, a bit like Saka, who has played down the entire flank for Arsenal.
5.) 27 Nov 2021 19:20:23
Ed001, both Lamptey and Livramento spent the majority of their Chelsea academy time playing right along the right hand side, RB, RWB, RM and RW.
Livramento even played a few times on the left.
Both have a fairly well rounded skillset both in defence and attack, although both are better going forward than defending.
This season Livramento is mostly playing at RB, but has played RWB on occasions when Hasenhuttl has deployed that sort of system.
Whereas Lamptey has more often than not played RWB/ RM depending on how you see that role on the right of Potter's often used 352/ 343 formation. Although he did play wide right in a 4231 type shape against Newcastle.
I think both players similar to Saka can play anywhere down the wing.
All exciting players and it will be interesting to watch them develop over the next few years.
{Ed001's Note - Lamptey is not a defender, he can't defend. I know where he has played but he is a midfielder.}
6.) 27 Nov 2021 21:51:37
Ed001, ah right now I get what you mean. Although to be fair who can defend in the modern game?
A large proportion of CB's played in midfield at youth level.
Defending seems to be more about pace and power rather than reading of the game and technical skill and understanding.
Defending is a dying art.
7.) 28 Nov 2021 00:32:58
Ed he's a footballer. Not a bag of crisps. I'm sure he can adapt around the pitch if needed, and well it seems. Crisps are one flavour when you open the bag.
{Ed001's Note - right whatever. Why bother wasting my time telling you that he is not a replacement for Wan-Bissaka as you all know better even though none of you noticed he plays in midfield and knew that Chelsea saw him as a midfielder.}
8.) 28 Nov 2021 00:57:21
Fair enough Ed01 you know much better than me. I concede that. I just thought that a player could be moulded if needs be.
{Ed001's Note - he simply can't defend, that's why they play him in midfield. They tried him at full-back and he got destroyed. They went to a back 3 to give him more attacking license and protect his flank better. Some people just don't understand some things. When he is older and more experienced, he might grow into a full-back, but now he is too rash and wild for the role.}
05 Dec 2020 19:45:08
Gona stop posting, i can only eat so much humble pie 😂😂then again the more i post how bad they are the more they prove me wrong 😜.
04 Dec 2020 14:56:10
What's happened too all the right wingers, when i was a kid in the 60/ 70s every team had a RW, some good some not so good and LWingers were a premium now everyone seems to want to play on the left and cut inside leaving teams very unbalanced.
1.) 04 Dec 2020 15:29:19
They all left football and went into politics which seems far too full of "right wingers" at the moment.
On a serious note I think the reason can be traced back to the idea of playing inverted wingers and overlapping full backs.
To be a top wide player now its more about cutting in and linking the play or finding space to shoot, rather than stay wide, stretch the play and whip in dangerous crosses.
As such if you are a top level wide player you will likely be right footed (around 80-90% of people are right footed), and as such you are more likely to play on the left wing so you can cut in onto your stronger foot and keep the ball on you right hand side giving you a shot selection of the entire goal and the ability to play a quick one two, or slip a player in with a pass around the corner.
This often means that the best right wing players are left footed, of which as discussed is only between 10-20% of people, so statistically you have less options. Also left footers are often more creative players and can often end up playing in a multitude of positions on the pitch depending on where you want a creator.
With these players being rarer there is much more competition for them. There are some excellent RW players about, Messi, Salah, Mbappe, Gnarby, Mahrez, Di Maria, Sancho, Havertz and Dybala often play on the RW. Unfortunately many of them are already at a top club and its difficult to get these players.
2.) 04 Dec 2020 16:46:38
Yh there's plenty out there, just look at man city and liverpool, sane, mahrez, b silva, sterling, salah, mane and jota have all played right wing at some point. Of course the likes of sterling and mane have moved to the left but have shown themselves to be more than capable of playing right wing.
The reason why manchester united haven't signed a decent right winger is because we have been deluding ourselves in recent years that we do not need a right winger. Season after season over the past 5 years we persist with juan mata playing right wing or jesse lingard.
3.) 04 Dec 2020 17:35:09
Its a funny one.
One guys opinion of what he wants from a right winner differs from the next man.
Less teams play with the traditional wingers than before.
Its more of a right sided forward now and as shappy said they are often left footed looking to cut in on their stronger foot instead of going outside their man to cross.
So the question is what does ole want for his system? The pursuit of sancho would suggest that he wants the right footer type on the right wing.
4.) 04 Dec 2020 18:11:30
Plenty of them in government mate.
5.) 04 Dec 2020 21:37:18
Oh I wish! Winger gets to byline, whips in a cross, centre forward gambles near post gets ahead of the defender and steers it in or winger stands it up and centre forward meets it with a bullit header.
Proper football, jumpers for goalposts.
6.) 05 Dec 2020 09:14:31
Will soon be moot anyway as heading the ball will be banned soon enough so high crosses will become obsolete.
05 Sep 2020 18:35:18
His stats are fantastic and his reputation in Germany is good but the FEW times I've seen Sancho he's done nothing to impress me and spend over 100mill on him, personally and it's just my opinion I'd go for traorie? from wolves.
1.) 05 Sep 2020 19:26:15
We have seen a few players look fantastic for Dortmund and then not so great when they leave. Kagawa and Mkhitaryan for us, while Gotze and Hummels looked average for Bayern while world class for Dortmund.
Sancho looks a great player in Germany playing for Dortmund. For England not so much. International football is a tough one to judge as players don't get to play with their team mates every week to build up a rapport.
I have reservations about the fee, but if the club can afford it then fine. Personally I'd be looking at other options.
2.) 05 Sep 2020 19:31:13
Grumpy
Traore is very quick but what are his assists and goals like?
3.) 05 Sep 2020 19:52:22
Red man, traore would be a good shout. He must be a nightmare for defenders. He would create a lot of space and opportunity for our other 3 forwards.
Assists can be very misleading. He is instrumental for wolves although he might not always make that final pass.
4.) 05 Sep 2020 20:26:06
Redman, watched him at Middlesbrough and villa and he was poor, just fast, but the wolves manager has improved his end product, sorry don’t know his stats but on his day he’s nearly unplayable, and a lot cheaper, still a good age, just my opinion.
5.) 05 Sep 2020 20:58:22
If he was unplayable he would start more games for them and be winning games on his own, I don’t see that from him. He was absolutely dreadful at Middlesbrough every time I saw him, didn’t he have the record for most games without a goal or assist at one point?
He has improved massively at Wolves and looks like an absolute beast but he’s had one decent season, I wouldn’t call him unplayable.
6.) 05 Sep 2020 21:10:33
He’s had one good season. Not good enough for Utd if we want to win the league.
7.) 05 Sep 2020 21:18:33
How many times did people on here talk about the ability to open up teams using skill. Yet now we want to revert to a power pace player who benefits when playing on the break as Wolves spend more time defending than we do. Forgive me for not jumping on the Traore bandwagon, good, powerful, fast player but I am not sure he adds enough to us. We already have pace, yet some just see pace and power as the answer. We need some finesse as well.
8.) 05 Sep 2020 21:21:16
My Colleague is a lifelong Wolves fan-he would cash in on Traore in a heartbeat- like Aaron Lennon, fast as a train never lifts his head up, might score the odd spectacular goal but would snatch your hand off for anything over 45 mill.
9.) 05 Sep 2020 21:29:51
I would suggest Sancho faces better fullbacks in Germany than he faced tonight, so perhaps the England coaching mentality is different. Clearly he could skin most fullbacks alive but seemed reluctant. Players don’t seem to express themselves with England like we see them do in their day jobs.
10.) 05 Sep 2020 21:50:57
Maybe another good season then and we can talk about it.
Always liked him, progressed nicely over the last couple of seasons and I think he'd be a very good addition.
Klopp likes him and apparently would take him. But what would he know 🤷.
11.) 05 Sep 2020 22:01:40
I’d still take Brooks, quality player IMO.
12.) 05 Sep 2020 22:02:04
If you want to judge by tonight kane was also subbed off because he wasn't great Sterling was poor as well both who would cost more than sancho and are considered as some of the best players in the league. A bit of perspective is needed I think.
On traore his main assets are pace and power and it works brilliantly for a team that loves to play on the counter like wolves but Utd have been actively trying to play a more quick and dynamic style with passing which comes up against a lot of low blocks and traore simply isn't the man for the role.
13.) 05 Sep 2020 22:43:52
It was basically a pre season game wouldn't look too much into tonight, on a side note what a stupid time to have international games. A few that have played over the last couple of day have hardly had any rest ahead of the new season next week, I can feel a few injuries coming.
14.) 06 Sep 2020 09:29:24
I reckon Traore could make a brilliant centre, maybe loose forward in rugby league, but he is a very patchy footballer. Unplayable on his day but he has maybe three such days a season. He does always have his head down as well. Wouldn't fare well at United I think. Probably better at The Wire or Saints.
15.) 06 Sep 2020 09:45:57
That's unfair to him IggyBob, he has greatly improved and his distribution is a long way from what it used to be. His stats last year really jumped. Nuno has done really well with him.
16.) 06 Sep 2020 09:49:30
Adama Traore is an interesting player, he was a late developer. He always had the raw pace and power, but now he is learning how to make the most of them.
He still has deficiencies in his game, he isn't great in tight spaces and his movement and spatial awareness needs work. Although these are things that he can work on and improve. However for me due to the sheer cost it would take to get him from Wolves and where he is as a player right now I would look elsewhere.
However, I can understand why from a tactical point of view a player with Traore's skillset might be a good idea. If we decide to play with asymmetrical full backs rather than try and coach AWB to be a more effective attacker then we will need a RW who will stick to the touch line to create space for players like Bruno or DvdB to float into the inside right channel.
In that respect a player like Traore who despite his flaws is so quick and powerful that the opposition have to alter their tactics to account for him. Regularly doubling up with their full back and winger, effectively tying up two of their players meaning an overload can be achieved elsewhere on the pitch. So tactically he could be a good fit depending on what we are hoping to do this season.
That said there are other players I feel who offer a quick and power presence on the right with good ability to cross the ball, while also being better with their movement and spatial awareness.
Someone like Ismailia Sarr would be half the cost of Adama Traore while having a higher ceiling. Or we could just play Dan James on the right, his crossing is good, he is quick he's a very similar player to Traore just not as powerful. Or we could move Dalot to RW, he is probably the best crosser we have, is also rapid, and physically stronger than James.
Ultimately a player like Sancho is the best option, as not only does he have the pace and crossing ability to stay wide, he is clever with his movement, has great spatial awareness and can come inside as well as going outside. That unpredictability makes him so much harder to mark.
If we are just looking for a player like Adama Traore then either sign Sarr or use James or Dalot. They offer the same one dimensional but highly effective tactic, but at less than half the cost.
While if possible we should be looking for that next level then we need a player who can be more tactically flexible.
17.) 06 Sep 2020 10:13:46
Taore's end product is very inconsistent.
Whereas Sancho is excellent in tight spaces.
18.) 06 Sep 2020 10:52:31
Totally agree that Traore has improved, so strong and fast, and imposes himself on any sign of weakness. Don't like the term but he will bully weak opponents. But also strongly agree with True Red/ Shappy, too inconsistent with his end product and a bit one dimensional which can limit a team's tactics. He'd probably get slaughtered on here after half a season. Better player than James or Dalot though in my opinion. Would he improve us as a team? Sorry, no, not in my opinion.
Grumpy old git's rumour replies
04 Oct 2020 12:53:43
I think cavarni deal is a no brainier, 2 year for our present front 3 to learn from a (past) world class striker.
19 Sep 2020 15:48:55
Bolger, have you watched brooks quality and the right age and will get better, we have signed 2 player of the year from Germany and neither reproduced the form even though i loved Kagawa, and, WOODY this is for you, as said before, half the price.
19 Sep 2020 15:37:42
Sorry pressed send, Brookes is quality and would be a great signing.
19 Sep 2020 15:36:03
I mentioned going for Brookes before, I’m from Sheffield and have seen a few times, but got shot down for mentioning ramdom names.
19 Sep 2020 15:24:33
If he’s good enough he’ll get game time, simple.
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19 Aug 2022 17:17:28
??that or Guinness.
09 Apr 2022 18:03:23
Haven’t see game today but sounds like I’ve not missed much.
Watching villa game and don’t know if he’s been mentioned but i matty cash has got to be worth a shout, good going forward, likes a tackle and can defend, could be a leader we need at the back.
19 Apr 2021 20:02:22
Been a Utd fan since early 70s but after events of the last few days i shall be putting my allegiance behind my local club, Sheffield United, will probably still watch man u if they’re on TV but won’t care if they get beat, it’s taken my passion away 😢.
07 Feb 2021 21:12:49
I personally think in Bailey we have a good defender who with some help from a decent defensive coach could do a good job for us, i know he’s rash and prone to errors but that can be coached out of him.
07 Feb 2021 21:03:04
De gea bottled it should have be out at DCL feet to smother it, still doesn’t like the physical side of our game.