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15 Dec 2025 20:40:52
Good first half so far but we need to score more. Can't believe Ireola will accept Bournemouths first half performance.


And then they score

So predictable.

15 Dec 2025 20:59:18
Thank goodness Casemeiro scored to reflect our superiority. We really do need to put teams to the sword. Some of the approach play is really good but we need that killer instinct of old to bury teams and give them no sniff of a chance. That said a real pleasure to see them go at it from the off.

15 Dec 2025 22:43:24
Disjointed we didn't win that Salford. I thoroughly enjoyed the game. We battered them for the 1st 35 mins and should have scored a couple more. We could easily have won and in the end could have lost.
Some good fotball played by us great running off the ball and fluffed our finish too often. Mbeumo could hand done better a couple if times.


No midfield is costing us. Bruno does his best in there but not a natural and when cas goes off we have no defence minded player there. A couple of players there would make the world of difference. Hard to be satisfied with the result but great game ro watch unless your a defencive coach.

15 Dec 2025 22:57:48
Thought mainoo played really well in the pockets when he came on.
Cunha was brilliant tonight and mount too mbeumbo was off it I thought.
Again poor defending cost us I thought we looked far better in a 433 though at the end Shaw is still a brilliant left back in a 4 for me.

15 Dec 2025 23:00:26
Agree Ken

Midfield def a priority but don't want a second rate player like Gallagher. Get in a top top player. Also we miss de Ligt.

15 Dec 2025 23:24:44
Yeah cb is a tough spot for young lads in the epl. Shaw was hot and very cold tonight imo. Mainoo did well but jumped in didn't win it and vacated midfield with no bruno there to cover just a lack of experience and defencive instincts and we got caught vacant in midfield.


Cunha great all game delighted to see him get a goal. Great free kick by bruno. We bossed it early and missed great chances.
Great game to watch imo. But disappointed with the result yet happy we didn't lose it. 🤷‍♂️😆.

15 Dec 2025 19:29:29
Ed

The Live chat link takes us to the Chelsea page.

{Ed033's Note - I changed it.

15 Dec 2025 20:00:19
Thanks Ed.

15 Dec 2025 07:39:04
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

14 Dec 2025 20:31:58
Scary to think the club still owe, 1 Billion, hopefully behind the scenes they are getting this sorted. Plenty of great young players coming through and hopefully a new stadium in the pipeline.

14 Dec 2025 21:08:52
Absolute disgrace to still owe £1 billion and I don’t believe the stadium will happen in the next 10 years. Until the Glazers are totally gone and we have no debt I don’t see much progress.

14 Dec 2025 21:46:54
The glazers purchase of our club is the greatest con job, fleecing, daylight robbery, call it what you want! in modern football. There’s no way it would be allowed now, many financial commentators have said so. Just sad that after this long time the club is still severely hamstrung by them and their ownership.

Absolute scum the lot of them. If we didn’t have the name and history we could have gone bust a long time ago. Thankfully that and some clever commercial deal have kept us right, just really angers me and I’m sure many others.

14 Dec 2025 23:07:42
Blackpool,

The club, like most businesses will always have debt, you’re never going to be happy if you think the club will be debt free any time soon. Without the sports washing bank roll it won’t happen. There has never been any suggestion that the club has ever been close to missing a payment on the debt, we can service it pretty easily, so it’s not worth worrying about. Also hearing now we are £1b in debt, we aren’t, we are $1b, so not that much more than we were before, doesn’t make a great story though.

15 Dec 2025 05:58:35
It's scary to think we still owe 1bn on an initial loan of around 550m, after spending nearly 20 years and over 1bn in repayments.

I thought the Glazers were supposed to be savvy investors, but by the looks of it they bought the club with one of those dodgy payday loans.

15 Dec 2025 10:41:38
After United went public the debt was down to £400m. Still high but manageable. The Glazers may be greedy and the LBO should never have been allowed, but the fact that total debt is now >£1bn is as a result of incompetent management since the company went public and not the initial loan. The Glazers main sin was appointing a non-football person to run the club and then failing to rectify the situation when it became clear that, beyond selling the club's image, he had no effing idea what he was doing. If, as a result of the money we've spent on transfers we had been winning trophies every season, most of us would not be complaining about the owners and their greed.

As far as being bad businessmen is concerned, the Glazers have already made £1bn + their dividends having invested virtually nothing. They still own nearly 70% of the club and, if I rumour is correct, they have been buying up land around the stadium and now own maybe 40 acres which will be ripe for development. If the stadium investment takes pace along with the rebuilding of the Trafford Park area they will cash in on a big scale.

43-50 years I used to work in a foundry and engineering business on a part of Trafford Park Road that no longer exists. The development around there since then, including of course the Salford Quays, has been incredible. I could not have imagined going back there and visiting the Lowry to see an art exhibition rather than an industrial wasteland. The Glazers may not know anything about how to run a football club - they now have Ineos and its appointees to do that for them - but as far as investing in property and using debt to their advantage they're no mugs.

15 Dec 2025 13:17:59
As per my previous message the debt is not over £1b but the fact people think that shows they have got what they wanted from the story.

15 Dec 2025 18:31:17
Total debt including monies owed to other clubs for transfers is over £1bn. Bank debt was something over £700m at the end of the first Q.

13 Dec 2025 10:11:51
I was watching a Paul Scholes diatribe about how Ruben Amorim doesn't get Man Utd and its history of entertaining football. Whether or not RA is the man to return us to the glory days remains to be seen, but I disagree with Scholesy. We're on pace to score 65 goals this season. A big improvement. We have the highest xG in the league which suggests it's not the style but the execution. We're also shipping goals so, from a neutral point of view our games have been more entertaining and competitive, even though it's been extremely frustrating for us fans. United at its best in his playing days always conceded chances. We all know, as does Scholes, that we have still not addressed our midfield issues. Amorim has yet to acquire anyone he wants there. It's simply too early to judge. Scholes knows that it took SAF time to succeed fully but he's clearly not prepared to give Amorim the same. What would he prefer? That we continue to chop and change?

I'm not defending Amorim here. He's a young manager who still has a lot to learn. The EPL is a tough league. I just think Scholes the pundit is a very poor shadow of Scholes the player, maybe trying to stay relevant by being controversial. I say give Amorim the midfield he needs. Let's see how the young defenders like Yoro and Heaven mature behind a solid defensive midfield as opposed to one #6 who can no longer play 90 minutes, and who has no one effective to sub for him. Then it will be fair to judge.

13 Dec 2025 13:34:01
I think all the ex United players should just talk a little less about it all starting to get annoying now.
Not one of them has been a good manager but yet every week they comment on something the club doesn't need that type of noise.


Neville is the absolute worst of them all I detest his commentary when he's on.
Only one I respect is Keane because he just says it as it is.

13 Dec 2025 13:34:32
The only thing Scholes is doing right now is damaging his own legacy.

13 Dec 2025 15:42:57
It seems to be the ex Utd players that talk more than any other club.

Amorim can be questioned on things I understand but it ain’t helping the situation.

Funny how he’s criticised every Utd manager but ole….

13 Dec 2025 17:06:25
Have to say most of them in punditry roles are abysmal aswell Neville and caragher are horrendous.
I watched the palace game against us and ally mccoist was brilliant.

13 Dec 2025 19:50:09
Imagine how good we could be with top level wing backs and CM pivot who controlled games and had the high energy he has said is lacking from our team.

If our front 7 players were all action pacey monsters and pressing high up the pitch then we had 3 solid quick centre backs to control the space behind this system can be very effective. But we are several players away from that, and to be honest, RA is already slightly damaged goods so, so we may never see it.

13 Dec 2025 21:15:41
We’ve had two successful managers in our history. Sir Matt and Sir Alex.

The rest have been largely ineffective.

Feels pointless ex United players piling in.

13 Dec 2025 21:35:30
Neither of them hit the ground running either. Same can be said of a lot of managers.

14 Dec 2025 20:39:29
There is nothing wrong with ex players having opinions, we just have to remember that opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one and most of them stink.

Scholes did himself a great service during his playing career by not opening his mouth and letting his football do the talking. Unfortunately he can't do that now.

He was a genius on the pitch, but he comes across far less intelligent when he talks. Like many people I think he tries to make life fit his opinions. He spoke about his friend and former colleague getting United to to play the United way, while Ole spoke well at times, his football was not reminiscent of the United of old.

Of course Amorim doesn't play football like the United of old. But then no one else is likely to be able to get us playing like that while also being successful. Football moves on and evolves, and you can either evolve with it or go extinct.

The United way should be about playing a front foot offensive style of play. It should be about giving youth a chance, and ideally it should be entertaining. However, all of those should also some with caveats. SAF didn't play offensive football in every minute of every game. Sometimes we were on the back foot and had to dig in, sometimes we had to win ugly. He gave youth a chance when they deserved it, he also brought back a 38 year old Scholes out of retirement rather than play academy players who weren't good enough.

Of course I'd like to see more youth players get chances, but they have to earn them, I don't want LvG tokenism, giving a random youth player a debut every other week to try and gain good faith with the fans and keep them off his back.

We have plenty of young players the manager gives chances to, Yoro, Amad, Sesko, Dorgu, and Heaven are all young players the manager trusts and gives regular chances to. He also gave Mainoo plenty of game time last season when he was fit to prove himself, and to be frank he didn't set the world alight. I like Mainoo and I want him to be successful, but like Ken has said on here recently, if he wasn't an academy player there wouldn't be half the fuss made about him not starting as there is. Sometimes players performances are elevated in their absence. Mainoo was great at times in his breakout season, patchy at best last season, and poor when he's had chances this year. He hasn't grabbed his chances or staked a claim. The majority of his claim to start more games is based on his form two years ago. Rather than complain about his lack of game time he needs to get his head down and prove in training and in the minutes he gets that he should be starting.

15 Dec 2025 00:02:19
Scholes is a fan. Just like the rest of us. He's not saying anything about our footballing style and ethos, that we don't all think ourselves.