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02 Nov 2026 13:56:36
I would sell Martinez but not Bruno, hasn't got going at all this season yet. Maybe the contract offer has offended him, don't know what it was or what he wants but maybe he feels his worth more. He just doesn't look happy at present.
1.) 02 Nov 2026 20:07:59
I think they both need to go before next season starts, whether that is January or summer.
I think they don't believe in the project anymore, or they realise it will take longer than they have left at the club.
I liken Bruno Fernandes during his time with us very much in the same mould as Steven Gerrard at Liverpool. He is the man that demands the ball, everything has to go through him, which when he's on form isn't a problem, but the moment his form drops the whole team performances drop. This is because no one else will step up and take responsibility while Bruno is there.
2.) 02 Nov 2026 21:45:27
What project. It's dawned on them there is no project. There has never been a project. wouldn't blame anyone for wanting out. They have been lied to.
3.) 03 Nov 2026 09:33:15
Both need to go. Bruno potentially, coukd bring in some much needed funds, to reinvest back into the squad. The January transfer window seems like a good time to do so, and quickly move on.
4.) 03 Nov 2026 11:43:35
Exactly. What project? We don't believe either.
5.) 03 Nov 2026 12:57:58
Project build a stadium while cutting costs, sillies. Our owners have been clear that they want lean staffing, lean wages, lean transfer windows, and instant success on the pitch. Players can either get with the project, or they'll be sold for a lean profit that will be invested in young hungry player that's the club's fourth choice signing.
31 Oct 2026 15:31:00
First half was very good, working hard, created numerous chances should have been well ahead. Same players and Manager but more effort. Real game of 2 halves, how Maguire gets away with such little criticism is beyond me, he actually steps out of way for their opener to let Rogers a clear run into the box, then has a laugh with Rogers up the other end during our corner. But Martinez obviously was the main culprit, a world cup winner with a serious chip on his shoulder, when he spoke about more signings, he failed to understand that it was him we should be replacing.
He hasn't been the same player since his injury. Could and should be sold in Jan if we get any decent offer. Just put Yoro and Heaven in their, give them a chance, can't get any worse, no clean sheet all season.
1.) 31 Oct 2026 16:01:35
Redcon1,
I agree with you Buddy.
2.) 31 Oct 2026 17:07:17
Yes Redcon, quite right.
I think Martinez has checked out and sees himself at Barcelona next summer. let's see if a deal can be done with Barca in January with maybe one of their player's who is likely to leave, perhaps Balde or a midfielder.
Think Leny Yoro should be playing Centre Back, he has been decent of late and deserves to play his proper position. Whilst he is not electric, he has decent pace and we need to get some in the centre of defence.
3.) 31 Oct 2026 20:02:43
He will pair up with Romero.
4.) 31 Oct 2026 21:00:13
Don't even start me on Maguire. I am a self confessed hater of him as a player and will not be swayed.
He is absolutely pants and not a leader on the park either vocally or by example. Should never have been signed and definitely not for the joke price we paid.
If pointing, cutting needless holes in your socks, claiming offside for nearly every goal conceded, pulling your pants up for corners, adjusting your fringe or being out of position more times than a virgin looking for the G-spot then he is superb!
Seaweed is a perfect name for him. Floats around aimlessly. But in fairness to him there are another 20 players that need to look in a mirror.
SAD SAD DAYS!
5.) 31 Oct 2026 21:49:44
Keefy that's not fair mate, Maguire marks very closely at corners granted it's our players he holds on to but it's easy to get the shirts confused lol.
6.) 31 Oct 2026 23:38:25
I'm with you on that Keefy. He is pants, always has been. Whoever gave him an extension should be fired.
7.) 31 Oct 2026 23:59:21
Yeah fair call Tim. My bad.
8.) 01 Nov 2026 11:14:48
Got to go and get Conte surely? There is nobody else out there right now who can do what he can.
9.) 01 Nov 2026 10:56:22
Martinez has Athletico Madrid all over him. An aggressive team that plays on the brink of bad sportsmanship to win at all costs. That's not a criticism, I think a lot of South American players approach the game in this way. It's a bit of a jump to biting people, but what Louis Suarez said back in the day about being bought up to win at any cost probably rings true with lots of players of a certain culture.
In England it's more about fair play and gentlemanly conduct. Maybe it's gone against us over the years. Then again every single player goes down to get any free kick and rolls around feigning injury to get player's booked so maybe there's a touch of bad sportsmanship in everyone.
10.) 01 Nov 2026 14:42:18
What is really disappointing is that we appeared to make such great strides under Amorim in terms of sorting out the dressing room.
The leaks stopped, the cliques seemed to disappear, the players and the manager were united in what they were doing/aiming for.
We thought (and maybe we were mostly right) that a big part of that was removing certain players from the squad (Sancho, Garnacho, Rashford etc).
However, this season it is right back to where we were before. I've already posted that I don't think Rashford returning has been a good thing at all. Especially as it was his attitude along with his position as a senior player that made his poor choices carry a bigger weight.
I also think it's very hard for a manager like Carrick to come in and manage players like Shaw and Rashford who used to be his teammates. Especially as both Shaw and Rashford have had their professionalism questioned on several occasions.
If Carrick is unable to discipline them properly when they don't show the right attitude/commitment, then it sets the tone for the rest of the squad.
It's a hard thing to become your friends boss and then not treat them differently to the other employees.
The other issue is that one bad apple can turn the whole fruit bowl rotten. I think we are seeing that in how Martinez is currently acting. Previously his commitment and fighting spirit was there for all to see. He became one of my favourite players in the squad due to his never say die attitude and his willingness to sacrifice himself for the club. Yet that doesn't appear to be the case anymore.
People rarely change, certainly not significantly, what does change is their surroundings and what is influencing them.
Martinez hasn't suddenly become a player/person who isn't a fighter, he just isn't fighting for us anymore. Something seems to have changed that means he is fighting for himself rather than the club. As seen with his comments aimed at Wilcox, and his petulant behaviour yesterday.
Bruno is the same, until recently he'd never thrown the club or a manager under the bus. He could actually in a petulant way on the pitch, but he was a model professional with the media. What has changed to make him act differently.
11.) 02 Nov 2026 05:29:43
Those players who were fighters, don't have a cause to fight for anymore. The upper management have failed them, time and time again.
12.) 05 Nov 2026 15:46:58
Even when Martinez was committed to the cause he was and still is a very poor CB for the EPL.
26 Oct 2026 14:58:08
On the running stats, l think City are well down on other too. It's not about just running its proper team coordinated running. I watched Bruno run around all over the place but its not done with purpose and support. You have to ask, were the players told to push on and close down together, was Bruno deciding this on his own or were some players just lazy to press.
It was well reported that many managers talk to their senior players about game plans and inputs etc. I still think Bruno is pissed at the contract negotiations and the offer made, probably way less that Rashfords.
1.) 27 Oct 2026 18:05:40
By what Bruno said the team were asked not to press in that como game although he broke rank and pressed alone.
I'm sure a lot of players are upset not just with the manager but the direction of the club. I'm sure like the fans they saw the business done in the summer and probably couldn't believe it.
I would imagine all of them were sold a vision on signing or extending theirs stays and like always the board never keep to their words. It must have an effect on them. They are also seeing and hearing a lot more than us.
2.) 28 Oct 2026 10:11:09
I was told the conditioning team focused on strength work over running. They messed up Sesko imo.
26 Oct 2026 11:19:19
We were always in trouble when our defence wasn't addressed in the Summer, Maguire isn't and never was a 70 million player, he maybe a great guy and good with others but he's nowhere near the level required Dalot and Shaw should have been replaced years ago too. We have 2 promising players in Yoro and Heaven and while they make mistakes they have no one guiding them, hopefully a full fit DeLigt will help them.
I really think 2 defenders LB and CB plus cover at CF would transform the squad given the right players and Manager. Just don't see Howe getting the respect from the players, l think Naglesman has managed at the highest level with Bayern and German plus he has a reported good working relationship with Vivell, might just by pass Wilkox completely.
21 Oct 2026 20:32:36
You would wonder why Giggs was at the game, next interim manager???
1.) 21 Oct 2026 22:40:04
Unlikely, ex-players go to lots of games if they can.
2.) 22 Oct 2026 09:09:06
Shappy, you can talk all you like about Vivell and Wilcox and their influence etc., but let's face it big Sir Jim's inability to stay out of the way and let them do their jobs is a big part of the problem. The kind of lad who probably reckons he knows more about football than everyone else.
3.) 22 Oct 2026 12:27:24
Bilko, I don't think Sir Jim is that big of an issue. Yeah, sometimes I wish he would talk a little less, but he is the face of the new ownership model, so he will of course be asked his opinion by the press. Which can place him in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If he refuses to comment then he'll be seen as difficult, uncaring, or aloof. While if he does speak he can accidentally misspeak, or his comments can be taken out of context. This is why clubs have media managers who brief staff before they speak to the press. I do wonder if that includes Sir Jim at United as often the times he's said something that could be considered controversial it hasn't been at a football related press event, but at ones for business.
Either way I think the biggest issue we have behind the scenes could be having too many cooks. Obviously when INEOS took charge of the day to day running they realised that the management structure was a mess and they needed to bring in more football experts, but in doing so, and with the speed in which they did it, I wonder whether they brought in too many people. Dan Ashworth, Jason Wilcox, and Christian Vivell all brought in, and it seemed that their was a lot of overlap with their job roles. So much so that it wasn't long before Ashworth left without a direct replacement. Now it's the job of Wilcox to manage the football "vision" of the team, to take charge of rebuilding the squad to suit that vision. Yet Vivell's job centres around recruitment both into the first team and the academy to bring in players to suit the clubs long term vision.
There have been rumours of disagreements between Wilcox and Vivell, which in itself isn't a major issue, there should be some level of disagreement and challenge in upper management inorder for due diligence and to offer alternative views or options. However, if those disagreements aren't managed correctly then it can create tensions within the management structure. Which can obviously be detrimental to the club. It probably does it help that Wilcox and Barrada have a previous working relationship from their time at City. Which even if Barrada doesn't give Wilcox preferential treatment when managing these disagreements, it could easily be perceived that he is if the reasoning isn't communicated adequately.
Ultimately the removal of Ashworth worked in Wilcox's benefit, it was Wilcox who pushed for Amorim, and who choose to make Carrick's appointment permanent. There have also been rumours of him maybe overstepping his role with managers/head coaches when it comes to the tactical decisions for specific matches (his coaching background can be both a benefit and potentially as challenge).
It's all starting to paint a picture of a man who doesn't seem to play well with others and seems to need to have greater control than his role should probably dictate. He doesn't like having a recruitment expert challenge his views when it comes to hiring players, he didn't get along well with Ashworth. He hires managers and then tries to dictate to them how to do their job. You could even question whether the ability to influence a manager is something that comes into his thinking when hiring a manager. Did he hire Carrick as he was the best manager for the job, or because he was a manager who he felt he could assert his control over.
If the two managers he has directly chosen have both lasted less than 12 months, then you have to start questioning him more so than the managers. Maybe we will see Wilcox follow Carrick out the door, it's starting to look like that might be what is best for the club. Which probably leaves the door open for Vivell to take charge as DoF, unless they want a clean slate and move him on as well and bring in a single replacement for both guys.
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04 Nov 2026 14:19:23
Whike delighted with the result, let's not be silly, we were shocking and seemed all over the place in the first half. Hopefully DeLight can get back soon with Heaven at CB Though Tielemans really increased our seed of play when he came on and got things going, Lacey even got the crowd up even more. Still issue with Bruno and he demeanor, hopefully the goal will wake him up.
1.) 04 Nov 2026 18:54:30
I'm just happy to win.
Villa at the weekend will be a different proposition altogether.
Hopefully they will carry some confidence and momentum into that game.
2.) 04 Nov 2026 19:06:33
Watched a bit of villa on the side last night and they will be a handful very dangerous on the break so with our hap hazard defending it could be a long day.
3.) 04 Nov 2026 20:35:26
Just enjoy it fellas. Was a quality European night at OT and great entertainment.
01 Nov 2026 18:42:43
As bad as the players have been, we bossed the first half and should have scored 3 or 4. Not sure it was lack of fitness in the second half or Chelsea upping the their efforts.
But it showed this squad can compete, Chelsea are 4th and not great. The right manager can get so much more with the right 11 on the pitch playing the right system.
1.) 01 Nov 2026 18:51:10
Yh the first half was the sort of performance you could build on if you had a half decent start to the season. But with 2 wins in 4 months, its just another chapter in the negative doom spiral this season has been.
I did like the santos baleba midfield, stick Mainoo in there and we could have a promising midfield 3.
2.) 02 Nov 2026 12:38:50
I think it's a combination of the players giving a little more effort as the fans have made it clear they blame the players not the manager. Along with the way Chelsea play under Alonso. They have this odd style where they seem to totally lack control of the game with it becoming very open in midfield and quite end to end in style.
That suited us in the first half and we were able to carve open a few good chances, but when the results and performances have been poor, players tend to lack confidence and that showed with our finishing. Then in the second half Chelsea seemed to come out a little more determined, and we looked more nervous. Maybe the players saw the missed chances in the first half and started to think "this isn't going to be our day". Then Martinez had a complete brain fart moment and the writing was on the wall.
3.) 02 Nov 2026 19:43:19
A game is 90mins.
You can play well for 89mins and have one momentary brain fart and lose the game.
We lack discipline and fitness. We have zero cohesion.
31 Oct 2026 22:02:44
Wembley of the North will have no fans in there at this rate. Don't even think Chelsea are good to be honest after watching them today, but tbry are top four ?.
31 Oct 2026 13:21:49
Like a different team in the first half should be 2 or 3 ahead.
1.) 31 Oct 2026 13:35:17
Absolutely, impressive performance but Amad should have scored 2, it concerns me missing so many clear opportunities.
2.) 31 Oct 2026 14:01:56
Amad was not good last season. Should have been sold. We should have bought another CF.
3.) 31 Oct 2026 14:02:00
Shows you have to take your chances when they come along.
Though now if there's one player Carrick can come out and hang out to dry to show some ruthlessness after a game he's got it on a plate.
31 Oct 2026 10:26:03
Just want to see passion, urgency and fight today. If the players have that the result will take care of itself.
1.) 31 Oct 2026 10:38:21
Draw at best.
05 Aug 2025 19:55:34
Disaster sell him for any price, he's usless, 33 and on 190 grand a week, no brainer!
25 Aug 2024 20:47:38
Than you.
10 Aug 2026 19:39:28
Should be a great atmosphere, 82,500 sellout.
02 Jul 2026 16:53:02
I am thinking the same thing.
23 Jun 2026 17:57:44
Sorry.
11 May 2026 10:47:11
Very true. Not to mention all the goals Arsenal themselves were given for doing this very thing from corners, long throws, and free kicks. Complete joke.
16 Apr 2026 11:29:06
100% agree. The tempo of the game, the work rate of all the players, top class.