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15 Jun 2026 22:50:24
If the rumours are to be believed Utd are seriously interested in Lewis Hall.
I have read about the transfer fee being 70m but can't believe Utd would pay such a huge amount.

What do you think he is worth?

16 Jun 2026 06:41:11
They may as well pay a bit extra and go for Tonali at that price.

16 Jun 2026 06:45:59
Cucurella to Madrid set a level at circa £50m, far more experienced. Hall is younger, but didn't make the England squad. It's down to negotiation, but Newcastle will want to max it. Given they sold Gordon for less than £70m, a forward, that figure is unreasonable for a full back.

16 Jun 2026 09:37:08
70mill for someone who will make that position their own for a decade is peanuts.

16 Jun 2026 09:43:03
Part of the issue in price is the sell-on clause Newcastle must give Chelsea 20% of the fee received.
I don't care what anyone says, there is no value in this market. The prices paid for largely unproven players are off the charts.


70m for a full back. 🤣 The world's gone mad.
United trying to string-arm West Ham on Fernandes.
I like the tactic of not just meeting a crazy price.

16 Jun 2026 12:13:08
My guess is that there's a better and less expensive choice than Hall out there, but can United unearth the player from a less expensive source than the EPL, where clubs don't necessarily need or want to sell.

I find it difficult to believe that United don't have a backup plan behind the Lewis Hall headline. For example, maybe Mazraoui moves to LB, where he's been deployed effectively for Morocco, and we end up buying a RB.

16 Jun 2026 12:31:32
Bayern are paying around £55m for the young German left back. Hall is not worth any more than that, in my opinion.

But if the powers that be are insisting on buying prem proven players, then they'll be forced to overpay.

16 Jun 2026 12:51:09
I like Hall, but not sure we need to be sucked into an inflated English player bidding war with Chelsea (the obvious replacement for Cucurella).
Quite like Maxi Araujo at Sporting.

16 Jun 2026 13:05:31
£70m is outrageous for him. A solid full back isn't going to push the dial for us, and Shaw was better last season than him. He's not an immediate priority. Sign a back up to Shaw and save the big money for midfield.

16 Jun 2026 13:31:14
For the fees being thrown about, surely we have an LB in Harry Amass capable of supporting Luke Shaw next season, getting some minutes and experience, ready to take over the following season, who has all the credentials and ability levels to be as good if not better than Hall? We also have Diego Leon to compete with Amass.

I've always felt RB was a more pressing position to focus on ahead of LB, anyway.

16 Jun 2026 14:02:11
Ports,

That's not a bad shout, but I think Amass needs another loan.

16 Jun 2026 14:33:05
Back up to Shaw next season? You are joking, right? Shaw had an unbelievable, injury-free season. You are really expecting the same again... You are being very optimistic.

Who cares if the targets are 70m or 100 mill. Let's just get done what has been identified. Rather pay 70 m than 50m for someone on the back of him doing ok in another league...



The kid everyone is raving about, who had a good game for Morocco the other day, I looked up his last 15 games. In virtually every game, he scored 6 out of 10 and did not even reach a 7 out of 10, and that was in a poorer league. That is clearly the reason no one bought him yet, and a perfect reason why we won't. We're not in the position to take more gambles.

16 Jun 2026 15:03:25
I ain't worried about Hall or the figures, more worried about the latest rumour: Summerville for £50 million.

He simply isn't good enough & am hoping it's just another bulls*** rumour.

16 Jun 2026 15:06:25
Luke Shaw is crap, offers nothing in attack, really, and probably won't be fit as much with no wc to hope for.

16 Jun 2026 15:17:59
Jsu, I don't see Hall as the same type of gamble as that lad. Buying young guys now is a huge gamble, as they go for such big money before they have achieved anything. Buying young, and from abroad, for such huge sums compounds the risk.

16 Jun 2026 19:06:03
I'd much rather Dorgu at LB and buy another LW.

16 Jun 2026 19:29:47
Part of why Utd are targeting Hall and not some overseas LB is the homegrown quota for Europe. There's only 5 HG players in the current squad, with the requirement being 8.
Shaw, Heaven, Maguire, Mainoo, Mount.

I believe Heaven is young enough he wouldn't need to be registered, but either way, at this point, Utd would only be able to register a squad of 22 players instead of 25 for the CL next season.

16 Jun 2026 20:05:42
Hall is better than Shaw at left back. Shaw is basically a CB these days. Agree with Ken that he will be back to the treatment table frequently next season after his miraculous World Cup season.

16 Jun 2026 21:20:28
Fuser, if they promote a few of the youth team into the squad, it should help the quota of home-grown.

For me, Shaw was the best left full-back in the Premier League last season. Maybe I haven't seen enough of Hall to judge him fairly, but 70m is just way too much in my opinion for any full-back.



It's a very important position, but not as much as centre-back, midfield, or striker. The "English" and "Man Utd" premium that clubs always try to get should be stoutly resisted, unless we are talking about exceptional players.

How much would Keane, Robson, or Rooney be priced at today?

16 Jun 2026 23:06:09
We paid "over the odds" for Keane, Cole, Rooney, Ferdinand. How did that work out?

Not saying which players, the scouts and recruiting team need to do their job and find the best players. Paying a bit over for the right players is what ultimately will bring success. Jumping to midtable players and still playing over the odds is what gets us nowhere.



Hall is like a young Shaw for what it's worth. I don't trust Shaw's ability to stay fit, but also, he has very little attacking contribution. His days of under and overlapping have waned and he is no longer the player he was. Nowhere near the best in the EPL last season.

16 Jun 2026 23:25:19
Amass, Dorgu, Diego Leon?

Why not do some coaching and get the above three ready to take over from Shaw?

17 Jun 2026 02:37:16
Salford, you don't need to include u21's in the list if they've been at the club for 2 years (I believe) or there's a separate list for them. I suppose, look at the other way, you can only register 17 foreign players in a 25 man squad. Whether it's Hall at LB, or Anderson at CM, Utd are going to have to look to sign at least one if not 2 HG players if they want a full squad.



Lammens, Martinez, De Ligt, Yoro, Dorgu, Mazroui, Amad, Dalot, Fernandes, Cunha, Mbuembo, Sesko, Ederson.

That's 13 out of 17 slots taken. With a backup GK, Backup ST, 2 CM's. Anything after that: another forward, RB/LB, they'd both have to be HG.

17 Jun 2026 03:20:44
It's a nice fairytale that these kids come in and play in these positions, but reality is they are not good enough atm... so if who we want and the position we want is 70 mil then so be it.

No good harping back to how much whoever was in yesteryear, it's today's world, over inflated, you either buy or don't buy, end of.



Dorgu is not a great LB, Shaw is much better, but just can't stay fit. So we need another, and if that's Hall at 70m, do it and move on.

17 Jun 2026 09:44:09
Buying Hall allows us to finally rid the club of Luke Shaw next summer. Shaw can leave. Amass can step up after another loan, Leon is floating about, and there is another LB in the youth team.

Why would we bring Dorgu back from what he has established as a preferred position, befitting of his attributes, and have him as a liability again? Seems incredibly illogical.

15 Jun 2026 13:40:19
Our linen just got a whole lot less dirty. at least for Ineos and the Leadership.

We have just signed a deal woth Amazon, the most expensive in documentary history for All or Nothing starting in 5 weeks time. The week before pre season is the go light for filming. Just for clarity, this means the value surpasses the $150m paid to our royal traitor and his psycho gaslighting bird. That's roughly £108m, which wipes out the extra borrowing cost we signed last week.

This does seem to nod to the feeling behind the scenes that all is calm, we have our identity back to the point where they are happy to raise the curtain and show behind the scenes so they clearly fele we are going in the right direction.

I am also cynical that they think we are about to make a proper serious play for the league, amd who knows, maybe that £108m was for a big splash this year to secure all our desired key position upgrades (five I believe, 3 mids, a lb and a lw. Possibly Lewandowski as an educational striker.

I also think the timing may be deliberate to send a clear message to potential acquisitions that we see ourselves as the same poaitjon city and Arsenal were when they signed for theirs, very much upward trajectory.

Why cynical? Well not just for the payday, but imagine if we actually did pull off the league next year, after all, we would have won the title. Coupled with some extra new players (not always a guarantee as Liverpool disastrously showed last year, but more often than not a boost for points, imagine how many PPVs an end of season special or edited directors cut would bring in extra cash. At £20 quid a bob times several million downloads.

Anyway, whatever happens next season ot will be a great watch as a series.

15 Jun 2026 14:27:55
You lost me at royal traitor and gaslighting bird.

15 Jun 2026 14:44:18
I'm not really a fan of those Netflix football documentaries, partly because they always feel a bit too polished and controlled, but also because I think what happens inside a football club should largely remain private. The dressing room, team meetings, disagreements, and day-to-day conversations are meant to stay within the club.



Once cameras are involved, people inevitably become more conscious of how they come across, and it stops being a genuine behind-the-scenes environment. For me, some parts of football are better left behind closed doors rather than turned into entertainment.

15 Jun 2026 14:54:35
Well that's good, Tony, I was never trying to hold your attention anyways.

15 Jun 2026 14:58:21
Ports, I think you're right. I expect anyone who gets in front of a camera puts on a show, and I also wonder about the authenticity of what hits the cutting room floor based on editorial control rights. Will we really see the truth, or just what people want us to see?

Devil's advocate, perhaps it may encourage all the right behaviours if they're in the spotlight enough, and it acts in a positive light towards enhancing the culture.



That said, we never needed the right optics when SAF was in charge and Keane led the team. They policed themselves. No cameras needed. Their performances were on the pitch, not off it, so a point well made.

15 Jun 2026 15:16:39
Going to be one hell of a tough watch with Carrick as manager, as he is an impressively boring person in front of the camera.

15 Jun 2026 15:48:03
It's just the way the world has gone. Huge new types of income streams and audiences.
Ports has quite an old school view on it, and I agree with him at heart on this one.
However, if you don't move with the times, you get left behind.
We can't afford to ignore these income streams and the other income streams that will come from the halo effect, and we must reach the widest audience possible to keep up with the competition.
I have very old school and often traditional views on many things until it comes to making money and maximising income.

Then it's a question of what's best for the business going forward, and you can't be singular and hold the business back to remain in the good old days.
I probably won't watch it. I never saw the other clubs' ones, except for odd highlights. I've no interest, really, in the showbiz side of the business, but I understand it needs to exist in order for the football side I am interested in to be competitive.

15 Jun 2026 16:45:29
Think that The Royal Traitor and The Gaslighting Bird is the sequel to The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. But that was on Disney.

15 Jun 2026 11:20:40
Redman, you might get your wish now Madrid have signed a proper lb our ex academy kid might be available. Not up to the job in Madrid. We did well getting what we got for him.

15 Jun 2026 13:19:50
Jose knows you need experienced players when building a team. I know everyone keeps mentioning to keep buying young potential, but you just have to have experience in there first & foremost, then you can afford to sprinkle a few youngsters, and it helps them no end.

Same with our striker, sign an experienced one for him to learn off, along with a very experienced CB with pace, and along with the midfield, hopefully we get them, and we will be in a much better place...

Trent might be up for sale. I would take him. Please, Jose.

15 Jun 2026 13:54:33
TW
We got €6M and maybe a little extra in a sell on. Benfica got what was it €55M. We missed out on the big money. Have Madrid said Alvaro is surplus?

15 Jun 2026 15:56:07
No, but he will be back up 3rd choice now, as he was 2nd choice. He didn't do well, and will probably get sold next summer. Our total income was £16.2m, which was all profit.
He was totally out of his depth in Madrid.
He is a good player, but not up to the EPL physically, either.

The Portuguese league suited him. He might get a good loan deal. He is a good player. I was only pulling your leg. He will find his level, but was completely overhyped coming out of that poor league.

15 Jun 2026 19:27:08
Tw

Maybe. Haven't watched Madrid or him there. Said a few times, at Preston he had a nice left foot, and was ok physically in that league. If we got £16m in total, that's decent, the £50m would have been better. Still think he would have been better than Malacia.

Certainly interested in Hall at Lb.

15 Jun 2026 21:14:00
Yeah, I like Hall Redman. It would be a good signing imo.

14 Jun 2026 13:39:05
6 weeks of summer football instead of 4 weeks. Games every day. Can't be all bad.

But, of course, it's all about maximizing revenues and if you want to do that, the US is the place to do it. Once upon a time we had "e pluribus unum" on the money, then during the red scare of the 50s they changed it to "In God we Trust". The real motto of the US should be the old W C Fields slogan "Never Give a Sucker an Even Break". Ticket scamming is not only perfectly legal, it's built into the system with virtual monopolies often owning both venues and ticket vendors.



Gianni Sycophantino bought off Trump, knowing the latter could easily disrupt the games. The FIFA peace price? Now there's a joke. That's a comment on the abject world in which this tournament is taking place. It's maybe even a step down from a winter cup in Qatar, but, as much as I considered boycotting it, I can't help but watch, although I'm doing it on the Spanish channel, a language I don't understand. This way I don't have to listen to any of the insufferably didactic American sports announcers, and I can escape from all the terrible things going on for a few hours.

14 Jun 2026 01:08:06
First World Cup overreaction.

The wee number 6 for Morocco, Bouaddi looks a tidy wee player.

18, but plays with the composure of a much older player.

Lille do bring through some good young players.

14 Jun 2026 01:45:15
Ronnie is enjoying himself, God Bless his soul.

14 Jun 2026 07:40:35
Utd have been linked with him. If he continues to play like this, his value will go through the roof.

14 Jun 2026 12:39:59
There was a queue of clubs lining up for him already, Stevie. He genuinely looks class. I was thinking of how well he'd work alongside Manioo. Plus, I'm a sucker for a big mop of bouncy curls. It made me nostalgic for Fellaini.

14 Jun 2026 12:50:27
He played well last night. All over the pitch, always available, good tekkers.
Very young too.
I'd like to see a lot more of him play.
EPL is very different, of course, but he looked very tidy indeed on last night's showing.

14 Jun 2026 16:03:10
It seems Arsenal are in contact with Lille and are discussing a transfer. Liverpool are seemingly also interested, PSG as well, and we have been linked with him.

A lot of love for him, a good tournament, and a big move will certainly follow.

He needs to go and buy a wheelbarrow for himself, to carry away all the money coming his way.

14 Jun 2026 17:45:14
Let's wait & see. One swallow doesn't make a summer. It's one game, like one game for Casemiro, who had a stinker. Let's judge after half a dozen games before we start crying out for every player.

Yes, he played well, but let's see what happens.

There were lots of cries for Sancho, Antony and Onana, the list goes on. Let's see how it goes.

14 Jun 2026 19:24:38
Je Suis...... Sensible comment..... Far too early to judge him, and how many great-looking World Cup players flop when in the Premier League.
Stoke on a wet winter night, anyone?

14 Jun 2026 21:52:43
Je Suis and Salford, this isn't really about one WC game. There's a reason that he's one of the most sought after young players in Europe, and seeing him command the midfield against Brazil in his first WC match shows that the hype is warranted. Particularly when you consider that he has only been part of the Moroccan team for less than two months.



This is a young lad that has been a key first team player since he turned 16, and really looks the part on the biggest stage. I suspect that every big club in Europe is looking at him.

14 Jun 2026 22:11:06
It's nothing to do with one game, his form over all of last season and his obvious high standards of technical ability are the reasons he is a player interesting many of the major clubs.

The stage he appeared on yesterday may well of brought him to the attention of many for the first time jsu, just because you know nothing of him you should not assume the same applies to others. Silly thing to say.

I would take far more notice of his performance against Brazil than against Stoke, those type of games are no more.

14 Jun 2026 23:44:09
I don't watch as much football as I used to, and I've stopped playing Fm, so I'm not as up to date on the 'wonderkids' as I used to be. Unlike the rest of you, I'd honestly never heard of him.

It was my young lad who told me to watch out for him.

He knows a lot more about football now than I do.

Danny, I'm the same mate. Fellaini, Chong, Zirkzee. It's about time someone with lovely bouncy curls came along that's actually a decent player as well. 😁

14 Jun 2026 23:52:45
Don't you dare bad mouth my Felli.

He had it all. Left foot, right foot, two arms with hands on the ends, and big old head with bouncy curls on top. Every single appendage required for the game of football on a single body!

15 Jun 2026 04:23:13
About more than one game, where? In what league? How many games? Bit like the overreaction to Baleba, who had half a good season, and many wanted to pay 100 million for him last season.
Yes, the kid may be good, may even be great, but to want to buy every player who looks good in the first match of a tournament is an overreach by anyone's standards. You say all of EU is looking at him; that may be so, but it's also the case that none of those clubs have signed him up yet, so I would say they want to see more too.

If you're that great, like you seem to say he is, I am 109% confident he would be at one of those clubs already before he got the chance to shine and the price went up at a WC.
Like I say, he may even turn out to be great. Hopefully for him, he does.

15 Jun 2026 11:19:45
The French League.
60-plus games in 2 seasons.
For the team that finished 3rd.

It's why the team that won the league and the last 2 Champions Leagues is currently trying to sign him.

It's why a World Cup semi-finalist promised him that he'd start for them if he changed national allegiance.

The more accurate comparison is Rooney. A young lad who got into his first team at a very young age.

He took his opportunity, cemented his position in the team, and showed that he could compete against anyone. Then, after two seasons, he got poached by the best team in the league.

It's not down to one game. He had a queue of top clubs looking to sign him this summer before he even declared for Morocco.

15 Jun 2026 13:34:19
Nice... but no one signed him yet.

We are nowhere near the position to be signing more potential and gambles. We currently need players who are tried & tested and walk straight into our starting 11.
Garnacho was going to be a world beater, and at 16-17 looked on course.


Janazui, another.
Yoro was supposed to be a great CB in France, but has not looked that great to me.

Taking that gamble is great if you've got a great, stable team and you can gamble and bed them in. We certainly have not got that luxury.

15 Jun 2026 14:34:00
Of course no one has signed him yet, the PL transfer window has only opened today, it is 1st July for European Leagues. You seem to be exceeding even your normal standards for saying idiotic things.

Also he is a little busy at the moment playing some rather important games, and with the number of clubs talking to his representatives and Lille it will certainly not be happening in the short term.

What is with this endless talk of Januzaj, that is of no relevance, it is by no means a fair comparison. If you want to make a comparison then use a player of similar quality.