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21 May 2026 16:41:51
How galling is it that Sancho has now won 3 European trophies while out on loan from us, having played little part in the last 2 of them at least. Do you think looking at his own trophy cabinet convinces him that he's actually not a waste of space?

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21 May 2026 17:42:58
What, you mean he is no good! But, what with all his intricate pass & move football that was going to knit everything together for us... No, surely you don't mean that player!

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21 May 2026 15:48:58
ED001,

What's your thoughts on Stiller as a player, do you think he would be a good signing for Utd?

I've only really seen YouTube clips of him play. He reminds me of Carrick, calm, composed on the ball and can pick out a pass. In some ways, he is quite similar to Mainoo.

I've always like Baleba, but his performances this season haven't been up to to scratch, I think Anderson will join City.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - I really like Stiller and would love to see him in the Premier League. He would be a different kind of replacement for Casemiro, he does have a bit of the ball winning attributes, but he is also a bit of a playmaker too. I think he would be excellent.}

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21 May 2026 16:59:38
Only seen Ltd clips of him, but he looks a bit in the mould of Kroos or Scholes in his style. If he can reach their levels, then that would be exceptional. I'm not convinced that league is the strongest. Lits have come with big reputations and flopped. But you think class would tell over time if he has it.

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21 May 2026 09:26:03.
Delighted to see Southampton speak had been thrown out and they he
Got thrown out of the play offs. Their admired spying on 3 different teams. Absolute tramps.
The EPL and the referees could take a leaf out of the football leagues book.
EPL on city and refs on cheating players.
Imo any deliberate fouls even pull backs on the half way line to stop a breakaway should be an automatic red card.

Holding someone at a corner is premeditated cheating so straight red. Any deliberate attempt to cheater needs stamping out. Its destroying the game imo but on and off the pitch.
You should be held accountable for deliberate premeditated cheating.
So. E think its on to cheat a d just pay a fine. No wonder there is practically zero integrity on the pitch when fans have none off it.

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21 May 2026 10:00:54
Be interesting to see what happens with City, because if watching another team train is seen as acting in bad faith, and therefore warrants expulsion from a competition and a 4-point deduction next season, then God knows what's in store for a club that breaches 115 financial rules over 9 years.

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21 May 2026 10:08:37
Southampton were only caught 3 times, Ken. One of those incidents was against Oxford, who were relegated. If they were spying on Oxford, they were spying on everyone.

The Bielsa defense with Leeds was that everyone done it. I agree wholeheartedly that the swift punishment is exactly what you do to stamp out this sort of behavior.

If another team is thinking or doing something similar, they'll soon think twice.

I have a feeling the City verdict is coming this summer. Havnt the foggiest what the outcome will be, but I think the Premier League will be happy theyre not punishing the champions of England.

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21 May 2026 10:16:41
It's not seen as acting in bad faith; it's seen as cheating and breaking the rules to gain an advantage. It's a 200m prize. I don't think the punishment is harsh; I think it's appropriate.
The EFL have shown the EPL how to deal with cheaters.
Now, let's see the refs and the EPL do the same.


Throw the book at them.
It's cheating, it's sticking 2 fingers up and saying the rules don't apply to them. Disgusting behaviour.
Off-pitch cheating is much more premeditated than on-pitch, when you usually only have a second or 2 to think before you do it. So there should be much stiffer penalties.

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21 May 2026 10:19:02
Also, instant yellow for mouthing off at the referee.

Another one that really irks me is picking the ball up if you are pinged for a foul and walking away with it. Instant yellow.

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21 May 2026 10:44:58
It's one of the charges - failing to act in good faith. My point is, if that's seen as bad, something every team did up until the early 2000s, then hopefully the City punishment is even more excessive.

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21 May 2026 11:14:07
Let's hope so, Sepp.

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21 May 2026 11:57:25
Keefy, some refs deserve more than a mouthing off!

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21 May 2026 15:11:04
Too harsh for me, spying is well over the top. Let's be fair, though, no one needs to spy on us; we do the same every week...

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21 May 2026 16:39:05
Entirely appropriate punishment. Sends a clear message. If they didn't expel Soton from the playoffs, other teams might consider that the trade off is worth the risk of getting caught.

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21 May 2026 17:02:21
It's a big punishment, but not a minor offence.
As Angel said, they should have had the consequences for breaking the rule clearly laid out. So there would be no ambiguity, but they didn't have to. It would have been much easier if they had that in place.

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Why I Think Liverpool’s Issues Start With Slot

21 May 2026 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, Why I Think Liverpool’s Issues Start With Slot

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20 May 2026 18:06:42
Usually, I don't have a problem with other teams winning the league, as over the course of 38 games, the best team usually wins. But I really don't think that's the case this season. Ignoring the fact that both Liverpool and City have been well below their usual standards this year (thus allowing Arsenal to stumble over the finish line despite their shaky form as of late), I can't help but feel like the league was handed to them.

In a season where VAR has repeatedly been criticized for a total lack of consistency, the one thing that has consistently happened is that Arsenal have got the rub of the green. They haven't got a single red card despite committing multiple stone-wall red card offenses (I can think of two in the last few weeks alone) and are seldom penalized in either box despite their players manhandling the opposition every chance they get. Without VAR intervention (or if the rules had been applied correctly in the first place), there's no what they win the league this year.

They have some great players (I'm a big fan of Rice and Reyna and am still sick to my stomach that we signed Onana and Mount for around the same price that summer), but their unique brand of anti-football football is horrible to watch and a terrible advertisement for the Premier League. Now that the FA has gifted them their title, we can only hope that they decide to take a look at the rules regarding set pieces ahead of next season.

Congrats to Arsenal, though, I guess. They all count, even the ones that are undeserved.

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20 May 2026 21:55:34
Wow, lime flavored grapes much?

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21 May 2026 03:17:09
I don't think so, no.

As I said above, beyond the initial disappointment of us not winning the title, I've never really had too much of an issue giving the winners their plaudits and recognizing that they deserve their trophy. This year feels different, though. It feels like a loss for football, rather than just a loss for Manchester United.

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21 May 2026 04:39:20
I agree, seven, the football in this league this season has been dire 90% of the time, and Arsenal have contributed to that big time, along with the standard of refereeing and VAR. The EPL has become very poor, and they keep trying to shout best league in world... what they actually mean is most hyped overpaid league in the world, where athletes triumph over skill & talented footballers.



Arsenal have added to this medley of diabolical corner routines that resemble a wrestling match, but I blame the authorities just as much for allowing it to happen... managers get booked for being out of their box; Jose gets reds for being out of his box. Arteta gets the whole length of the pitch, but that's ok.

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21 May 2026 07:09:27
The standard is so bad that three of our teams are in European finals. Villa comfortably won theirs last night; congratulations to them.

What is happening, and has been for a while, is that the traditional middle-of-the-table teams are becoming very good because of all the money in the game. There is no easy game in the Premier League.

Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, and Sunderland have played some outstanding football this season.

If the standard was so bad, there are 19 other teams who could have taken advantage of it, but didn't, so no sour grapes or bitterness, congrats to the team who found a way to win.

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21 May 2026 09:32:41
I think that's harsh, Arsenal struggled over the line, but they have been the best team. They got nervous, so reverted to a pretty basic approach, but they're worthy winners. The grappling happens with many teams. It needs sorting out.



Arteta's antics also need addressing, the running on the touchline and the s***housery we see, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve the title. I expect them to win it again, likely playing with more freedom.

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21 May 2026 09:34:31
Unfortunately, if you wanted to win the league over the last 7 or 8 years, you needed City to be off their game. Taking the aesthetics of "decent" football out of it, winning the league with mid 80 points used to be the norm, City, and for a couple of years Liverpool who chased them, raised the bar to aim for somewhere in the high 90 point region to win a league. Something United only managed a handful of times (90 plus points). Not saying we couldn't/wouldn't have been able to reach those targets with competition pushing us, just that most of the time we never needed to.

You'll see a few teams winning the league with 85 points over the next while as the competition evens out.

As for Arsenal, they found a way for their team to be effective. They've won the league and are in a European final. One thing I've noticed over the years reading football fans' opinions online is that the winners are often belittled.

If you were to read about United in the 90s/00s, we bribed refs, cheated, Fergie timed our way to titles whilst Arsenal revolutionised football.

The facts were that Arsene got Arsenal to be champions with a technically and physically impressive team, but United were simply better and could match and beat them toe to toe.

Arsenal fans shape the narrative that "we play the best football" as a coping mechanism for losing. Every team to finish 2nd has a sob story or takes the moral high ground or creates a comfort blanket to explain the external circumstances to why they can't get over the line. Fact is, every winning team has their detractors. People say City are boring, Liverpool's title wins have a narrative that they had no one challenging them and failed miserably to retain them, etc.

Arsenal have had the rub of the green and next year, if they sort out the corner fiascos, they might struggle, but this year they've amassed more points than anyone, have answered questions under pressure, and deserve to lift the league title.

Someone has to win the league every season.

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21 May 2026 09:39:14
Really good post, Mumbles. Good team Arsenal. Only scored a couple more from corners more than United. 🤣

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21 May 2026 14:56:06
Whoever finishes top of the pile deserves to be champions. It's no fluke. Arsenal deserve it. At times they played attrition football to get to the title, but they also played some really good stuff too when they built the lead that ultimately led to their triumph.



No sour grapes from me.

We need to learn to take defeat gracefully and admit without rancour when a team is better.

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21 May 2026 15:15:06
Yeah, Salford, they played some good stuff too, no doubt about it.
It's no fluke. They were the best team this season.

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20 May 2026 13:12:32
Hi Ed

Welcome your thoughts on Iraola
1) His ability, is his potential going to take him to the elite level?
2) Where you think he will go next?
3) Have United missed the boat by ignoring him from the process?

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - 1. He is already an elite coach imo.

2. Looks like Palace as they want the kids to be educated in Spanish and there are private schools in London that Palace will enrol them in.

3. Not for the long term.}

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20 May 2026 15:01:27
As i understand the situation, it was mainly between Carrick and Iraola. We went for the safest choice, and i mean what our people think its safest, or Iraola rejected us because he wanted London. Ed maybe can help us with this.


As things stands, and if he goes at Palace and not to one of our rivals, that's perfect. Because if Carrick doent work then in 1-2 years we can go for Iraola, if his wife allows it :P

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20 May 2026 18:08:39
There are some excellent Spanish schools also in Manchester.

I'm not convinced we stretched our net very wide at all with Carrick on his winning run.

I also don't buy this "no top coaches/managers out there".

Ineos put themselves in an impossible situation, which seems to be the norm with them, unfortunately.

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20 May 2026 17:52:54
Thanks Ed

Given what he has done at Bournemouth, I don't think Palace is that big a step up.

Out of interest who do think would have been the best choice for United?

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - Iraola would have been I think. I love Iraola, I think he is vastly underappreciated in England.}

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20 May 2026 19:24:35
Amen Ed. And he ays a decent brand of football 👍

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20 May 2026 20:44:14
Ed

Thanks, he was well above Carrick in my list and someone I thought should definitely be considered.

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20 May 2026 23:07:20
Do we know he wasn't considered?
Do we know if he said he wasn't interested?
I too think we should have tried for him but we don't know.
We can all make assumptions but simply don't know.
I don't believe for one second that there were no discussions about other coaches and other names considered.
The only thing we do know is that they have the job to Carrick.
We also know he out performed iraola a lot of our fans would take half the Bournemouth team. So we can't say iraola has worse players in his team. So why has he not done even as well as Carrick this season.
Keepers are pretty equal.
They have a better lb and cbs than ours you could argue. Can't think of their rb but he must be better than dalot
Very good forwards and midfielders that we covet.
But yet he's not done as well as Carrick and was behind us when amorim was in charge too.
Its not a dig at him I too would think he could step up and become a top manager.
But he's not done any better than they guy we've chosen. So that is probably part of their rationale and they must believe that Carrick has as good a chance of stepping up at united as iraola has. The difference Between the 2 as they might see it is that Carrick has proven he can get results.

He's proven he can get them with a poor squad he's proven it at united.
Ill caveat that with its only over half a season but he took over at a time when there was a cloud over the club and he has turned it around.
Redman i'd suggest that this in charge know a lot more about the work Carrick has done around the club than you or I.
He has also turned the press around and TV reports. He has handled everything so impressively off the pitch also which no incumbent since fergie has done.
Ole and eth lvg moyes Jose amorim ranick were all a disaster in that regard. In the case of eth amorim and ole imo they were buffoon with the press. When that happens your done for.
You won't consider any positive about Carrick and generally fail to recognise any positive aspects of his appointment.
Give the guy a chance to prove he can answer the questions going forward and he will find it tough its a steep curve he is on. He has answered pretty much every question asked of him so far.
Just give the guy a chance. i'd say the odds were stacked against him. But i'd say the odds are stacked against any coach coming in and none of them will have proven they can do it at united except for one.

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21 May 2026 04:43:42
Not done any better than Carrick. He steered a small club with 15,000 supporters to within a point or two of Europe. He lost his best players last season, and bought in virtually unknowns. Their wage bill is minuscule compared to ours, their size is minuscule compared to ours, their football is more pleasing on the eye, much, much more than ours.

But, oh yeah, he has done no better than our manager. That's delusion given what's available to him and what's available to Carrick.

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21 May 2026 06:20:16
Bournemouth have only lost 7 games all season the only reason there not exactly where we are is because they drew 17 games iraola is head and shoulders above Carrick had he of had a bit better depth in his team a lot of them 17 could of easily been wins.


I'd also argue bournmouths centre backs are quite poor I know ed001 really doesn't rate senesi

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21 May 2026 07:04:13
Tw

I have made my points over Carrick, no point in going over it. Iraola has more to offer, a progressive, exciting style for a start. As per one of our other posts, I have little excitement about next season given the choice the club have made. Whatever will be. Que Sera.

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21 May 2026 08:45:48
What I wonder is, why is he choosing Palace over staying in Bournemouth?

It seems to me that his current club is in a better position at the moment, and both will probably play EL (if Palace win the final).

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21 May 2026 09:15:48
Wow, the 15000 fans play, do they? Is it players that play or their wages?
It's not delusion to say Carrick won more points than him, it's factual.
Remember calling people delusional when we said United will qualify for CL.
When we said Liverpool would finish below United, you called me delusional.
When we said EPL teams would dominate European comps, I was delusional.
I think you're delusional for thinking otherwise.


One of us proven right on those three, so who is the delusional one?
Carrick has done better than Iraola in the same competition. That's just a simple fact.
Drawing 17 games, so what? If he had won them all he would have won the league, but he didn't. If Wolves won more games they wouldn't be relegated
Im sure if he goes to Palace he will do no better, or win no more than Glasner has. Maybe that's delusional too. 🤣🤣

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21 May 2026 09:33:50
I have 1 question about Iraola. Where is the queue of clubs for him?

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21 May 2026 10:37:58
Given that Bournemouth only holds 11,000, he did a good job getting the other 4000 in. The guy is a genius!

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21 May 2026 11:16:33
Ajh, you know, if we had appointed Iraola, the same people would be telling you his cv has gaps.

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21 May 2026 13:46:19
Ajh,
Fair question, but I suspect he already knows where he is going, sorted a while ago. I seem to recall he wanted utter secrecy and no distraction until after the last Bournemouth game and has had that. That's impressive secrecy in today's world, where, for example, the Pep info got out.

May well be Palace, but hard to understand that one. A conspiracy theorist may wonder why United haven't actually announced Carrick, and Iraola hasn't announced his next club. So Palace it is. Que sera as we sang in the 70s, or maybe always look on the bright side of life.

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21 May 2026 14:12:32
I'm not inspired, but I understand the club's point of view when looking in from the outside on this one.

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21 May 2026 15:18:58
Many points there, you're totally wrong about them. You were saying that we would be in CL when RA was in charge!
Secondly, you will see that teams roughly finish where their income and outgoings on wages stand them, so on that alone he did better than Carrick, plus you would also know that 75,000 fans behind you is much, much better than 15k, but of course, if it suits your narrative, then fine as usual.

On the point of where is the queue of clubs after him, I would say it's the same group of clubs that are chasing Carrick! Oh hang on, Carrick has not even got Crystal Palace chasing him, so that's 1 less.

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21 May 2026 17:25:03
One place Iraola may go is Liverpool. That would be interesting.

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20 May 2026 10:27:58
Fair play to Arsenal, they stuck with Arteta when he struggled to get over the line but now they've made it. The first couple of years were tricky but they have been very competitive the last few so their confidence was not misplaced.

Liverpool and Chelsea look messy, and we don't know what impact Pep's departure will have, so it may be Arsenal dominate next year, especially if they sign a top striker.



That also gives us an opportunity to strengthen well and continue to grow. Carrick's points per game so far is title winning form albeit for half a season, but it's still encouraging. The extra games mean we need more depth, the transfer window is critical to us moving forwards.

I'm quite excited about what next season might bring.

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20 May 2026 12:24:59
Yeah, congrats to Arsenal. Massive achievement for them.

Next season, for us, so much hinges on midfield recruitment. Casemiro was huge for us this season, and replacing him is the most important job. We need a player that can defend, dictate play from deep, and chip in with a few goals.

Anderson would be ideal, but I can see him ending up at City. Tonali is a maybe. My issue is that it always feels like he wants to go back to Italy. Tchouameni, I'd be happy with too, but not sure if he'd be willing to come here. Don't think Wharton is good enough, and Baleba isn't ready.

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20 May 2026 12:54:09
Wharton is a very forward thinking and passing player, but I don't think he is really a deep lying midfielder.

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20 May 2026 18:23:45
Ajh

I feel a little ambivalent about next season, not excited but not one of doom either. I guess a middle of the road feeling, with a lack of vibrancy expected. Watching the non-selection of Heaven made me wonder about commitment to younger players, especially on Sunday, where the result wasn't important.

Heaven came in and did really well when it mattered, yet was disregarded. I really didn't like that.
I don't have the excitement that the lift and buzz of an exciting coach would bring. Maybe an exciting signing or two may help, but the overall feeling I have is: right, let's see what happens. Bring on summer.

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20 May 2026 19:02:37
I think a lot of us feel that way, Red Man.
I'm hopeful but not expectant.

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20 May 2026 19:26:06
I will put the bet on that we will win the league, but I am more confident I'm throwing my money out the window.

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20 May 2026 23:09:27
Give it to charity, Jim, and tell them you want it back if United win the league. 🤣

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Aston Villa v Liverpool - A Not So Quick Liverpool Perspective

20 May 2026 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Aston Villa v Liverpool - A Not So Quick Liverpool Perspective

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19 May 2026 21:26:14
Well done to Arsenal, Mal will be happy. Not great football but whoever wins the league deserves it.

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19 May 2026 21:45:41
Congrats, Mal.

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20 May 2026 07:37:34
Meehh.

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20 May 2026 13:49:26
Fizz
Stopped City winning.

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20 May 2026 15:32:12
They don't give trophies out for beautiful football, only winning football. Congratulations to Arsenal, toughest league to win.

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20 May 2026 19:04:15
Really pleased for them. Great win. Delighted for Arteta. Hope they go on to win the CL. PSG play great stuff, so they are up against it.
Hopefully Villa win the EL tonight and Palace the Conf League.

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19 May 2026 20:10:06
Junior Kroupi, is he the forward we should consider this season?

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19 May 2026 20:44:03
Yes, and Rayan, and Truffert, and Scott, and Hill, and Iraola.

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19 May 2026 21:02:53
Iraola's side plays some really good football. No point in me making any further comment on the manager position.
Kroupi looks interesting, a live wire, and we need another forward.
Truffert has impressed as well.

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19 May 2026 22:48:18
Re Kroupi, I think it fair to say we have been, and are, looking at him.

They would want very big money for him (£80m figure being mentioned), and indeed want him to sign a new contract.

Some very big clubs have also been monitoring him, and he is very highly regarded.



Although he is French, he could represent Portugal internationally, and they have approached him about joining their WC squad. He declined their offer, wanting to play for France.

He most certainly would not be an under-the-radar, bargain-fee player.

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20 May 2026 06:34:40
Bowen rumours have resurfaced again. He would be a good addition to the squad. He works his socks off, scores goals, is a great squad player, can play across the front line, and, at 29, doesn't impact the strong youth players' chances long term.

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https://manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/imgs/red2.png avatar{Ed077's Note - he is primarily a left footed RW, something we have enough of ( Mbuemo, AMAD and Lacey ). Unless Mbuemo or AMAD make way, I think the funds could be used up better elsewhere

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20 May 2026 08:50:54
Feels like a good Man United signing of old though Ed. That being said, to your point, we are stocked well, so he won't want to move to a bit part role anywhere I'm guessing.

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https://manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/imgs/red2.png avatar{Ed077's Note - do you mean the Woodward era signing? Signing for the sake of signing? Because they just had a bit of name value? 🤷 Unless 1 of Mbuemo or AMAD leaves, it'd be a big waste of money in my view

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20 May 2026 13:17:12
I would take Bowen in a heartbeat and let Amad go out on loan. He can play right wing or more centrally. Always puts in a good shift, scores goals and defends. Is mature now. Price though will likely be a big deterrence.

If West Ham are relegated, take him on a year's loan and they gave an option to get him back if they are promoted. Otherwise, if I were Liverpool, I would be going all out to get him to replace Salah.

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20 May 2026 15:34:24
Cannot see Bowen leaving West Ham, even if they get relegated. Danny Dyer would ban him from leaving.

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20 May 2026 18:11:59
Bowen to replace Salah? You are joking, right? Bowen is not fit to lace Salah's boots, and I don't even like Salah as a person, but to think Bowen could be a replacement is laughable.

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