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17 Jul 2019 17:14:48
I was wondering how easy some of our supporters think it is to complete a transfer? I am no expert and presume that those on frees are simple, you just agree terms with the player and that's it. I can also presume that those that hand in a request are a bit easier, in that you approach the club for permission to talk to the player and if they want to sell they grant it and you agree terms with both the player and selling club. It has to be so hard with a club who don't want to sell, you can approach and make an offer, they can accept or decline your offer, you then have to speak to the player and his bloody agent and agree terms. Most players we are after I think have not handed in requests to leave, so it becomes a long bargaining session to see if you can meet the selling clubs valuation and also agree terms with a player? I think I am right Ed 002 will probably tell me I am mad
{Ed002's Note - it is not like that for those “Frees”
1.) 17 Jul 2019 18:42:23
Thanks, how hard is it for those out of contract and on a "free"? I only ask as some people on here are demanding to know why and when we are signing players without knowing what it actually takes.
{Ed002's Note - Stuff like this needs to happen and plenty of payments need to be made.
(a) Paperwork including obtaining International Clearance and Work Permits if necessary.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League. This eill be based on the assigned value of the transfer fee.
(c) Tax due on the assigned value of the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool spent £44M plus VAT on agent fees (nearly double the next highest) last season alone).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Training Contributions (this can be significant payments paid based on the assigned transfer fee to clubs you may never of heard of).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).}
2.) 17 Jul 2019 19:43:04
Are there any decent football documentaries showing behind the scenes of a transfer. Geeky I know but I would find it fascinating to watch.
{Ed002's Note - Quite frankly, of course not.}
3.) 17 Jul 2019 19:43:49
Thanks Ed002, now some of our supporters may see the reason why we have just not signed a player.
{Ed002's Note - To be fair they are far from the brightest.}
4.) 17 Jul 2019 20:31:11
And some people think you are a journalist 😂.
{Ed002's Note - Many say I am a simple singer songwriter that came out of Laurel Canyon in the early 70s. Others say, I played for Arsenal, Everton and Millwall before a successful career in the Medical Law (specialising in left knees). Some even say it was my fadget design that was used in the patent for tentafere that led to air traffic control over Lake Havasu City being lost for 40 minutes on Christmas Eve 2014. Many finally figured out I am a tubby kid from Bolton.}
5.) 17 Jul 2019 21:43:11
Ed002, if they read this they might shut up about asking about player x and y?
{Ed002's Note - I think Player Y will sign Friday.}
6.) 17 Jul 2019 21:51:32
You‘re asking for trouble there Ed 😂
Thanks a lot for the insight.
7.) 17 Jul 2019 21:56:24
oh, I had player Y as Bale, you sure it's not X?
8.) 17 Jul 2019 22:32:51
I have now worked out the identity of Ed 002 and the truth is stranger than fiction. We are so so lucky. Thanks Ed.
9.) 18 Jul 2019 11:57:57
It's Peter kaye!
10.) 18 Jul 2019 17:01:35
I was wondering how easy some of our supporters think it is to complete a transfer?
not as easy as the fifa players and football manager people think but still slightly alarmed that Barcelona can get Griezmann, Real can get Hazard, militao, Mendy and jovic, West ham can get Haller and we can't get a kid from Newcastle despite the fact he would sell his own nan for a fiver lol
Greenwood and Chong are looking decent though so maybe we don't need lots of new signings.
11.) 18 Jul 2019 21:14:03
When I read Ed02's juicier responses I immediately think of him as a middle aged female librarian on HRT and wondering where her life has gone. 💋💋💋.
{Ed002's Note - Obviously I don’t ride a Vincent HRT. I have a Vincent Black Lightning 1952.}
12.) 18 Jul 2019 21:46:23
I thought that was a marital aid.
{Ed002's Note - Sure great for picking up ginger haired chicks.}
13.) 19 Jul 2019 11:38:40
Looked up Laurel Canyon Ed - sure was a crazy time late 60s/ early 70s! Did you get to hang with Crosby, Stills, Nash, Joplin etc?!
{Ed002's Note - I was there with my girlfriend for the lost summer of 1974 in the Hollywood Hills with the Source Family and then in Laurel Canyon.}
14.) 19 Jul 2019 13:48:36
Thanks Ed002: I've just read about the Source family, Father Yod, Yahowa 13 - and much more - and, as Seagull alludes to above, that's some life you've experienced so far. We really are lucky to have you on this site; I've no doubt that every minute of your time is precious. Would be intrigued to know how you've ended up being so omniscient about all football matters though - surely the capitalist market forces that fuel the rivers of money involved in the game - plus the instant gratification culture that drives both players and fans - contradict the Source family/ Laurel Canyon beliefs about life? (Please forgive me for this rhetorical question - just really fascinated by all the things I've read! )
{Ed002's Note - The Canyon was very laid back for the few months we were there but a lot of folks were pretty strung out. The Source Family were preparing to head for pastures new and the restaurant was attracting a lot of vagrants (we had nothing to do with the restaurant). There was a lot of music being recorded at the time by the Source Family and Father Yod’s daughter was born when we were there. There were a huge number of tapes recorded but I don’t know what happened to them.}
15.) 19 Jul 2019 15:21:51
Thanks for sharing your fascinating life Ed002. Looks like the Source family headed off to a mixed reception in Hawaii! The restaurant looks like it was the place to be though. The music seems really eclectic and, maybe under another more established name such as Jefferson Airplane, would have gained more commercial success. Shame so much was lost. Thanks again for sharing Ed - much more interesting than surviving the jungle that is comprehensive school everyday here in the UK!
{Ed002's Note - Currently flying over the Med. I originally came to England to do a masters degree in London. I know some of the albums have been re-issued.}
10 Jun 2019 19:36:16
Pogba agreed deal with Juventus? Who pays these Journos?
1.) 10 Jun 2019 21:37:23
You by clicking on their rubbish.
2.) 11 Jun 2019 09:47:03
9 years out of date. lol.
3.) 11 Jun 2019 12:37:59
Is that in seagull years shappy?
15 Dec 2018 14:59:46
Not sure if Barcelona are after Pogba or ever were, but could a swap deal with Dembele be done?
{Ed025's Note - swap deals very seldom happen im afraid CSF,,
1.) 15 Dec 2018 15:35:45
Was the Mina and Gomes swap for Pogba last summer bull?
{Ed025's Note - probably mate, i would imagine agents would frown upon it as they would lose their cut of the transfer fee..
2.) 15 Dec 2018 15:59:41
Given the stories of dembeles attitude why swap one disruptive influence for another?
3.) 15 Dec 2018 23:18:51
Dembele seems like childsplay compared to Pogba. I’d swap the two for toffee.
06 Dec 2018 18:30:37
Any chance we will go for Robben, Ribery and Sneijder in January?
1.) 06 Dec 2018 18:48:55
nah i think they are trying to get Cantona, Pallister and Robson.
2.) 06 Dec 2018 20:14:23
Ronaldinho minimum.
3.) 06 Dec 2018 20:32:58
Charlton is still in the stands, maybe him, Bruce and Yorke would help.
4.) 07 Dec 2018 10:09:58
You spelt Schnyder wrong, mate.
5.) 07 Dec 2018 19:46:38
Same fantastic player however you spell it.
Sign him we'll learn to spell it eventually - I am so excited I getting ready by going to night class.
6.) 07 Dec 2018 20:10:28
Don't forget Gaitan; also on the list.
7.) 08 Dec 2018 07:14:35
All these players are now well into their 30's, which probably means they have now become the first choice targets under our current manager. 😂😂😂.
8.) 08 Dec 2018 20:36:23
Thanks for the clarity Shappy, kinda what i was getting at.
9.) 09 Dec 2018 12:24:43
Who could forget Ezequiel Garay at cb.
10.) 10 Dec 2018 10:08:57
In advanced talks with strootman.
11.) 10 Dec 2018 17:42:02
Gaitans testimonial soon.
20 Nov 2017 16:47:54
Just read on Manchester United Updates on Facebook that we have an interest in Valencias Carlos SOLER. Any of the Eds know him and know if rumour has any legs?
{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with this several times and on the Sharkopod.}
1.) 20 Nov 2017 17:57:53
There is an interest as CM option, its possible but very expensive, and he is not the first choice, per Ed002.
2.) 21 Nov 2017 00:17:28
First choice being Milinkovic Savic at Lazio, If I recall correctly.
3.) 21 Nov 2017 07:38:40
Can anyone of you describe those two for me? What their playstyle is like etc.? Who would you prefer if you could chose? I have never seen them play. Thanks.
4.) 21 Nov 2017 08:53:12
Carlos Soler is technically good with very good passing and dribbling ability, able to pick spaces and drive the pass foward and very versatile, he sees and executes the final ball really well and is also a decent scorer. He can play as CM or RW, he prefers CM position.
Segej Milinkovic Savic, like Soler is technically better, physically dominant, can dribble, scores goals and versatile, but his passing ability not good as of Carlos Soler.
5.) 21 Nov 2017 17:02:45
Thanks, kenedyandy.
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07 Aug 2019 14:20:48
Fernando Llorente on a free as he was released by Spurs, is he good enough if Lukaku leaves?
1.) 07 Aug 2019 15:08:13
No.
Especially for the fast attacking style Ole wants to play this season.
2.) 07 Aug 2019 15:13:52
Is this a trick question or is the answer as obvious as hell no?
3.) 07 Aug 2019 15:16:18
Why? We don't want spurs cast offs.
4.) 07 Aug 2019 15:19:52
I'm not asking, I read it.
5.) 07 Aug 2019 15:31:37
Is eriksen not a spurs cast off?
6.) 07 Aug 2019 15:38:04
Reads very much like a question to me.
7.) 07 Aug 2019 15:38:16
He’s not good enough for my Sunday morning side, so no.
8.) 07 Aug 2019 15:50:37
The question mark at the end was the hint.
9.) 07 Aug 2019 16:17:10
Ken, Eriksen is not a Spurs cast off. He's a player who rejected their contract offrr so he could move to a better club.
10.) 07 Aug 2019 16:48:40
Ken. No Erijsen isn't a cast off. Spurs apparently would give him a new contract if they could. He wants to be elsewhere.
11.) 07 Aug 2019 17:34:45
Madrid apparently DW20.
12.) 07 Aug 2019 18:20:44
Hands up, I'm wrong. It was supposed to be a statement. Then question, not one big question.
27 Jul 2019 21:48:51
UNITED FB, Pages reporting Fernades deal is done for €62 million, anyone else seen these in last 10 mins?
1.) 27 Jul 2019 21:57:31
Nope.
2.) 27 Jul 2019 22:29:13
A journalist called Nicolo Schira is saying the deals agreed too let's hope it's true but don't know how reliable he is.
26 Jul 2019 19:26:35
As always I look to the Ed's as guidance, who is the amateur team we send in for negotiations? So we want £75 million plus for Lukaku and Inter offer less. Leicester want £80 million for Maguire and Sporting want £62 million for Fernandes. The club can't hold out for a full fee for Lukaku if they won't pay full fees to other clubs. My prices may be wrong, just what I have gathered from social media.
1.) 26 Jul 2019 22:53:50
Are you saying that in order to stick to your guns about the valuation you put on your own player (Lukaku), the club should pay whatever is the valuation is that the selling club has (Maguire)?
It may be just me that I wouldn’t recommend you to be a part of a negotiation team.
2.) 27 Jul 2019 00:25:33
Or you could look at it the other way. The club are getting flack for not lowering their asking price for Rom and they are getting flack for not paying the full asking price for Maguire. They can’t win. Objectively, RL is a much better player than HM and so expecting to be able to bring in the same amount for Lukaku as we would spend on Maguire seems fair enough to me.
The real issue here is the lack of alternative targets. I feel like SAF would have identified several players for each position allowing us to simply move on when clubs slapped ridiculous valuations on our first choices.
£80m for Maguire is ridiculous. There can’t be too many CBs out there that couldn’t be purchased for that sum and I really don’t see HM as being anywhere near one of the best in the world, neither in terms of ability nor potential. He’d be a step up on what we have at the moment, but for that kind of sum I’d be expecting more.
3.) 27 Jul 2019 03:29:00
CSF as the guys have said that logic can be easily flipped the other way around. If we are expected to pay full whack they why should we expect less for our players?
10 Jul 2019 17:16:33
Was Tielemans an option and we missed him or was he never on the list of the club?
1.) 10 Jul 2019 17:32:16
Either way it doesn't matter. I know this is a banter site but frankly it's getting rather tedious and asking Eds questions which make no difference to what Utd will actually do just annoys them. By all means let's banter amongst ourselves but regarding transfers let's be honest nearly all media reports are guesswork until a move is almost imminent. Suggest we all chill and a have a refreshing glass of whatever is our poison and by Aug 8th we will know where we stand.
2.) 10 Jul 2019 17:37:07
He was a potential Pogba replacement but obviously didn’t want to dick Leicester about waiting for us to make an offer.
3.) 10 Jul 2019 17:56:56
Salford, wind it in mate. If I was asking an ED, i would have tried to put the question to them.
4.) 10 Jul 2019 18:16:09
Ed Woodward to Leicester - you give us Maguire, we will step away from Tielemans?
5.) 10 Jul 2019 18:42:16
CSF if you ‘RTFP’ you will find the information you are looking for.
Salford is right though, it doesn’t matter now and asking the same questions that have been answered several times while updates have been thick and fast must be tedious.
6.) 10 Jul 2019 19:08:02
Wazza, search Tielmans on the site, there is very little about him.
7.) 10 Jul 2019 19:09:51
Wazza, take it back. There are a few different spellings of his surname. Maybe why I did not find much on him.
8.) 10 Jul 2019 20:09:23
Fair enough CSF 👍🏼.
9.) 10 Jul 2019 20:42:43
CFS no offence intended at all. Just that frankly the media love to report stuff over and over again and some fans do too without reading prior posts.
Also if Utd are being professional we really should not get a squeak about who they are signing until any deal is done. I know we are the biggest club in this country and possibly worldwide but when eg City but someone there is not normally anywhere near the level of speculation until the deal is sealed or almost agreed.
I would love it if Utd kept totally silent and there were no leaks at all and then suddenly they announced the signing of two or three players. I do appreciate just how difficult it is for clubs to buy and sell players and particularly to Co ordinate things so that the necessary funds can be in place and so that rivals are not given the chance to compete for players. It really cannot be easy to buy and sell withing a relatively limited timespan and there are so many parties involved nowadays that negotiations are bound to be fraught at times.
10.) 10 Jul 2019 23:54:37
Every single thing we do now the media know about. You'd see a lot of surprising signings before with us but not these days. Even an enquiry comes out as if it's big now. Gone are the days of an Hernandez signing or a Larsson which came completely out of nowhere.
03 Jul 2019 20:19:52
Would anyone take Cahill on a free? He knows the league, kept Jones and Smalling out of the England team sometimes, he may be a cheap fix?
1.) 03 Jul 2019 20:33:00
I don't know how to say this in any other way, so erm, NO.
2.) 03 Jul 2019 20:43:26
😂😂😂.
3.) 03 Jul 2019 23:11:04
The answer is No way Jose. It does beg the question though, how do you justify the value for money difference of £70m between Cahill and Maguire?
Cantonas seagull friend's rumour replies
30 Sep 2019 15:58:45
£5000 a week and you can have my 15 year old son. He has 3 goals and 4 assists in 2 games. He plays ACM and has an eye for goal and trys his hardest every game.
14 Aug 2019 21:32:20
Sanchez has the ability to be great, maybe just give him the number 10 role, I think he could pick the holes we need against clubs.
29 Jul 2019 18:33:42
Ken, pretty sure he would prefer a carpenter, just not sure if Karen or Richard?
27 Jul 2019 17:00:40
Can Kanye West play in that position.
17 Jul 2019 21:56:24
oh, I had player Y as Bale, you sure it's not X?
Cantonas seagull friend's banter replies
14 Oct 2019 18:35:26
Wow, what a wage bill. Time for wages to be capped and only topped up with goals, clean sheets and wins.
10 Oct 2019 14:08:02
I live within walking distance of Northampton Town, it is disgusting what their former owners/ directors did in taking the loan from the Council themselves. The stadium is a shed, with a massive stand half built and looking crap. I feel for the lower teams as they can easily go under. United can spend £100 million on one player and certain clubs can't find £10 million to stay afloat.
07 Oct 2019 20:45:09
No Ed, I want owners who get involved in the business, they must bloody know it takes success on the pitch to earn money. Sponsors will come and go depending on the success of the football side of things. It's not hard to understand.
{Ed002's Note - You don’t seem to understand how any of it works.}
07 Oct 2019 20:37:32
How long have they been owners? Why has one of them not got more.
07 Oct 2019 19:52:16
How can the owners of a football club not make football decisions If you own a business you get involved in all aspects.
{Ed002's Note - So you want people who know little about the making transfer policy?}