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24 Dec 2019 06:21:30
Rumours of Haaland to Juve.
1.) 24 Dec 2019 15:37:20
Apart from Haaland, some Juventus fans believe they might also sign Pogba in January.
Typical Raiola.
2.) 24 Dec 2019 21:47:39
Tuttosport rumoured to be running the story now, not checked myslef.
3.) 28 Dec 2019 12:12:12
Apparantly the Haaland rumours were a smokescreen for someone else.
I hope we don't pass up the chance on young talent and end up with an aged player like Mandzukic.
4.) 28 Dec 2019 13:59:15
Haaland agrees to join Zebre ala Juve
At a bargain 27mill.
17 Jul 2019 17:14:48
I was wondering how easy some of our supporters think it is to complete a transfer? I am no expert and presume that those on frees are simple, you just agree terms with the player and that's it. I can also presume that those that hand in a request are a bit easier, in that you approach the club for permission to talk to the player and if they want to sell they grant it and you agree terms with both the player and selling club. It has to be so hard with a club who don't want to sell, you can approach and make an offer, they can accept or decline your offer, you then have to speak to the player and his bloody agent and agree terms. Most players we are after I think have not handed in requests to leave, so it becomes a long bargaining session to see if you can meet the selling clubs valuation and also agree terms with a player? I think I am right Ed 002 will probably tell me I am mad
{Ed002's Note - it is not like that for those “Frees”
1.) 17 Jul 2019 18:42:23
Thanks, how hard is it for those out of contract and on a "free"? I only ask as some people on here are demanding to know why and when we are signing players without knowing what it actually takes.
{Ed002's Note - Stuff like this needs to happen and plenty of payments need to be made.
(a) Paperwork including obtaining International Clearance and Work Permits if necessary.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League. This eill be based on the assigned value of the transfer fee.
(c) Tax due on the assigned value of the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool spent £44M plus VAT on agent fees (nearly double the next highest) last season alone).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Training Contributions (this can be significant payments paid based on the assigned transfer fee to clubs you may never of heard of).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).}
2.) 17 Jul 2019 19:43:04
Are there any decent football documentaries showing behind the scenes of a transfer. Geeky I know but I would find it fascinating to watch.
{Ed002's Note - Quite frankly, of course not.}
3.) 17 Jul 2019 19:43:49
Thanks Ed002, now some of our supporters may see the reason why we have just not signed a player.
{Ed002's Note - To be fair they are far from the brightest.}
4.) 17 Jul 2019 20:31:11
And some people think you are a journalist 😂.
{Ed002's Note - Many say I am a simple singer songwriter that came out of Laurel Canyon in the early 70s. Others say, I played for Arsenal, Everton and Millwall before a successful career in the Medical Law (specialising in left knees). Some even say it was my fadget design that was used in the patent for tentafere that led to air traffic control over Lake Havasu City being lost for 40 minutes on Christmas Eve 2014. Many finally figured out I am a tubby kid from Bolton.}
5.) 17 Jul 2019 21:43:11
Ed002, if they read this they might shut up about asking about player x and y?
{Ed002's Note - I think Player Y will sign Friday.}
6.) 17 Jul 2019 21:51:32
You‘re asking for trouble there Ed 😂
Thanks a lot for the insight.
7.) 17 Jul 2019 21:56:24
oh, I had player Y as Bale, you sure it's not X?
8.) 17 Jul 2019 22:32:51
I have now worked out the identity of Ed 002 and the truth is stranger than fiction. We are so so lucky. Thanks Ed.
9.) 18 Jul 2019 11:57:57
It's Peter kaye!
10.) 18 Jul 2019 17:01:35
I was wondering how easy some of our supporters think it is to complete a transfer?
not as easy as the fifa players and football manager people think but still slightly alarmed that Barcelona can get Griezmann, Real can get Hazard, militao, Mendy and jovic, West ham can get Haller and we can't get a kid from Newcastle despite the fact he would sell his own nan for a fiver lol
Greenwood and Chong are looking decent though so maybe we don't need lots of new signings.
11.) 18 Jul 2019 21:14:03
When I read Ed02's juicier responses I immediately think of him as a middle aged female librarian on HRT and wondering where her life has gone. 💋💋💋.
{Ed002's Note - Obviously I don’t ride a Vincent HRT. I have a Vincent Black Lightning 1952.}
12.) 18 Jul 2019 21:46:23
I thought that was a marital aid.
{Ed002's Note - Sure great for picking up ginger haired chicks.}
13.) 19 Jul 2019 11:38:40
Looked up Laurel Canyon Ed - sure was a crazy time late 60s/ early 70s! Did you get to hang with Crosby, Stills, Nash, Joplin etc?!
{Ed002's Note - I was there with my girlfriend for the lost summer of 1974 in the Hollywood Hills with the Source Family and then in Laurel Canyon.}
14.) 19 Jul 2019 13:48:36
Thanks Ed002: I've just read about the Source family, Father Yod, Yahowa 13 - and much more - and, as Seagull alludes to above, that's some life you've experienced so far. We really are lucky to have you on this site; I've no doubt that every minute of your time is precious. Would be intrigued to know how you've ended up being so omniscient about all football matters though - surely the capitalist market forces that fuel the rivers of money involved in the game - plus the instant gratification culture that drives both players and fans - contradict the Source family/ Laurel Canyon beliefs about life? (Please forgive me for this rhetorical question - just really fascinated by all the things I've read! )
{Ed002's Note - The Canyon was very laid back for the few months we were there but a lot of folks were pretty strung out. The Source Family were preparing to head for pastures new and the restaurant was attracting a lot of vagrants (we had nothing to do with the restaurant). There was a lot of music being recorded at the time by the Source Family and Father Yod’s daughter was born when we were there. There were a huge number of tapes recorded but I don’t know what happened to them.}
15.) 19 Jul 2019 15:21:51
Thanks for sharing your fascinating life Ed002. Looks like the Source family headed off to a mixed reception in Hawaii! The restaurant looks like it was the place to be though. The music seems really eclectic and, maybe under another more established name such as Jefferson Airplane, would have gained more commercial success. Shame so much was lost. Thanks again for sharing Ed - much more interesting than surviving the jungle that is comprehensive school everyday here in the UK!
{Ed002's Note - Currently flying over the Med. I originally came to England to do a masters degree in London. I know some of the albums have been re-issued.}
10 Jun 2019 19:36:16
Pogba agreed deal with Juventus? Who pays these Journos?
1.) 10 Jun 2019 21:37:23
You by clicking on their rubbish.
2.) 11 Jun 2019 09:47:03
9 years out of date. lol.
3.) 11 Jun 2019 12:37:59
Is that in seagull years shappy?
15 Dec 2018 14:59:46
Not sure if Barcelona are after Pogba or ever were, but could a swap deal with Dembele be done?
{Ed025's Note - swap deals very seldom happen im afraid CSF,,
1.) 15 Dec 2018 15:35:45
Was the Mina and Gomes swap for Pogba last summer bull?
{Ed025's Note - probably mate, i would imagine agents would frown upon it as they would lose their cut of the transfer fee..
2.) 15 Dec 2018 15:59:41
Given the stories of dembeles attitude why swap one disruptive influence for another?
3.) 15 Dec 2018 23:18:51
Dembele seems like childsplay compared to Pogba. I’d swap the two for toffee.
06 Dec 2018 18:30:37
Any chance we will go for Robben, Ribery and Sneijder in January?
1.) 06 Dec 2018 18:48:55
nah i think they are trying to get Cantona, Pallister and Robson.
2.) 06 Dec 2018 20:14:23
Ronaldinho minimum.
3.) 06 Dec 2018 20:32:58
Charlton is still in the stands, maybe him, Bruce and Yorke would help.
4.) 07 Dec 2018 10:09:58
You spelt Schnyder wrong, mate.
5.) 07 Dec 2018 19:46:38
Same fantastic player however you spell it.
Sign him we'll learn to spell it eventually - I am so excited I getting ready by going to night class.
6.) 07 Dec 2018 20:10:28
Don't forget Gaitan; also on the list.
7.) 08 Dec 2018 07:14:35
All these players are now well into their 30's, which probably means they have now become the first choice targets under our current manager. 😂😂😂.
8.) 08 Dec 2018 20:36:23
Thanks for the clarity Shappy, kinda what i was getting at.
9.) 09 Dec 2018 12:24:43
Who could forget Ezequiel Garay at cb.
10.) 10 Dec 2018 10:08:57
In advanced talks with strootman.
11.) 10 Dec 2018 17:42:02
Gaitans testimonial soon.
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19 Feb 2020 17:51:59
While when VAR is talk of the week, the Liverpool goal against Norwich appeared to be ignored or at least not talked about. MANE clearly pushed the Norwich defender in the back in order to collect and control the ball and score. It seems offside against Chelsea in a United game is more important.
1.) 20 Feb 2020 07:01:14
Well, Pool and runaway title winners while our teams are locked in a battle for CL spots. So our match perhaps did have more importance to it.
And the offside call wasn't even the bad call. He was offside. And while it's a BS implementation of VAR to rule out goals for marginal offside like that, they've been doing it all season so no real complaints there.
The big missed calls wee Maguire's kick at Batshuayi and Azpi being pushed first on Zouma's goal. But not really the offside.
2.) 20 Feb 2020 09:52:55
Jackson,
A BS implementation to rule out goals that are offside? The rule hasn't changed on that, offside is offside, nothing BS about it, VAR just means they get it right.
3.) 20 Feb 2020 10:44:39
GDS, I think Jackson has a point with VAR being used on offsides. The rules for VAR are to be used on clear and obvious errors. Spending 3 minutes reviewing something dozens of time to conclude a player is offside by an inch does not constitute a clear or obvious error.
While the offside rules themselves clearly state that unless totally certain that a player is offside the linesman should give advantage to the attacking player and not flag.
No one can be certain a player is offside by the margin of an inch when the players are running at speeds of up to 20 miles an hour and the linesman themselves are trying to keep up with professional athletes in their prime.
If you can't be certain the player was offside you shouldn't flag, if it takes someone sitting in a room with multiple monitors watching multiple replays from many different angles slowed down still takes several minutes to decide then it shouldn't be under review.
Therefore, I think it's fair to say the use of VAR for offsides is BS. That said they have been doing all season for all sides so it will even itself out over the course. Yet, it is something that needs changing going into next season.
31 Jan 2020 18:02:47
Is either Zlantan or Larsson available? If not what are Yorke and Cole doing?
1.) 31 Jan 2020 18:09:06
Welbeck is poised to answer the call.
2.) 31 Jan 2020 18:23:31
Just get ole to pull a shirt on.
3.) 01 Feb 2020 00:44:53
just get ole to shut his eyes and throw a dart at a list of strikers.
31 Jan 2020 16:42:19
So since Lukaku left we knew we needed a striker, a proper number 9 who could lead the line as Martial is iffy. This has been six months and we now just go for numerous has beens and not good enough strikers. What knob in management has not identified the striker and made the right bid to the selling club?
1.) 31 Jan 2020 16:58:09
Clubs are very reluctant to sell strikers in Jan.
I think Dembele could have been an option, but Depay’s injury means that he isn’t available.
The big mistake was selling Lukaku at the end of the summer window. The player and the manager wanted the transfer but the club dragged things out with Inter to secure an extra few million. That left us with no time to replace him in the summer, and no one to replace him with now.
There’s a reason that we’re looking at Josh King, and it isn’t because he’s a top quality striker.
2.) 31 Jan 2020 17:07:45
It does feel like we've missed out on a gem in Halaand, would have been a great player to have in this squad.
I like the idea of Josh King but for the price being mentioned it seems crazy.
3.) 31 Jan 2020 17:13:57
The usual knobs.
4.) 31 Jan 2020 18:08:29
It was always intended that Martial would be first choice striker, that is why he was given the No.9 shirt and a big new deal.
What the club needed was a reliable back up/ rotation option to Martial. In the summer that’s a hard-enough gig to sell, but during the January window only players who are out of form and not playing will up sticks and move with little chance of their playing time increasing.
We aren’t attempting to sign a genuine top-class player to be first choice, we are looking for a player who is happy being second choice to Martial and who won’t be here long term and block Greenwood.
That was always going to be a short list.
As for keeping Lukaku he wanted to leave, his poor under Ole was poor and he isn't the sort of striker who would have been happy to play second fiddle to Martial.
5.) 31 Jan 2020 19:02:16
Who s responsible for leaving this for the last minute? We already started the season with no replacement for Lukaku. Then we lost Rashford too.
I still think that for a competently managed club there was enough time to look and sign a replacement. not us apparently.
6.) 31 Jan 2020 20:15:51
We shouldn’t be looking for backup to Martial. He isn’t a no.9 who will score 20 + goals a season. We should be recruiting a top quality striker in the summer so that we go into 20/ 21 with healthy competition.
We won the treble with Yorke, Cole, Sheringham and Ole.
We had Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez too.
This talk of bringing in Ighalo, Slimani or King is a joke and shows the small minded mentality of Solskjaer.
7.) 31 Jan 2020 21:37:06
God this is boring. I think it’s sensible from the club whisky we work on long term squad building. This day and age everyone thinks they’re an expert at everything and want instant success. Ridiculous.
8.) 01 Feb 2020 01:41:43
Agree it's getting boring. Like I said earlier if some posters were managing the club it would be bankrupt within a year. Spend 100 million on a striker in January. If he doesn't meet expectations just spend another 100 million in the summer window.
9.) 01 Feb 2020 12:06:20
I’m not saying spend £100m in the jan window. Are you telling me the absolute best we could manage was a 6 month loan for Ighalo who’s been playing in China for the last 3 years.
I sincerely hope I’m eating my words come May.
16 Jan 2020 15:32:29
A friend of mine who works at OT texted me saying he walked past an office and heard a muffled voice say "I want MO Salah this month", and a voice he did not regonise replied "Yes that can be sorted, don't tell OLE yet". He said he burst in to find Luke Shaw and a Chef, seems Shaw was actually asking for No Salad this month.
1.) 16 Jan 2020 16:27:47
Very poor comedian 🙈😂.
2.) 16 Jan 2020 19:22:06
Masala may have been a better word.
3.) 16 Jan 2020 19:50:42
I hope your not here all week 🤯🤯.
05 Jan 2020 09:49:16
Well that gave me a laugh today. Reports we are prepared to offer £45 million and Lingard for Maddison.
1.) 05 Jan 2020 10:17:37
Leicester have made a counter offer, 40m and we keep Lingard 😂.
2.) 05 Jan 2020 10:57:17
So does it mean Lingaard is worth anything in transfer Market? With him in any offer, Leicester will black list us for such Joke in serious matter.
3.) 05 Jan 2020 11:39:33
It would prove how amateurish United are if they try and offer Leicester that deal.
I'd imagine all they would hear at the other end of the phone was laughter.
Seriously, the papers will right anything to get a sale.
If Jones can get a testimonial for the club then Lingard will probably staylong enough to get one.
4.) 05 Jan 2020 13:02:58
I find it incredible in this day an age people buy papers.
5.) 05 Jan 2020 13:33:29
Eric, they're cheaper than loo roll and nothing is quite as satisfying as wiping your arse with either Trumps or Boris's face.
6.) 05 Jan 2020 20:25:24
Stings a bit though surely Shappy?
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06 Feb 2020 20:28:54
I may be wrong, he never gives his maximum in a game unless it suits him. We keep getting rubbish info he will do his best for United and he is injured again. The lad is really unlucky, hope he doesn't run down his contract and suffer a really bad injury the day before he leaves on a free. He had been too good a servant for that bad luck to happen.
31 Jan 2020 21:00:18
Ighalo.
28 Jan 2020 11:53:15
Reading them as well, although one said the United he was in talks with was Sheffield.
14 Jan 2020 17:45:34
Maybe we are trading Lingard for the other £40 million 😁.
10 Jan 2020 20:27:14
Someone reckons Ferdinand has posted about Brunooooo.
{Ed047's Note - and the excitement builds! 🤞
Cantonas seagull friend's banter replies
12 Feb 2020 22:37:00
Jesus Wilbot, have you forgot what goal he scored? He could probably relegate a team like Cardiff and we would still want him. Lucky for us, he managed Molde team that was challenging for the league and Cup in their own league and had a chance in Europe.
05 Feb 2020 18:34:10
Why do so many of you not rate Ighalo? I think he is a good striker, who will do a decent job for us.
28 Jan 2020 21:14:31
I heard its Dave Sextons fault, or maybe Ron Atkinsons. Then again maybe LVG or Moyes? Seems to always be the managera fault when we don't win a trophy. How about its just rubbish happens?
14 Jan 2020 17:43:25
I agree, we seem to miss out on the talented youth across Europe. This could be down to the toxics wanting instant success. Before Daniel James we have to back a good few years to have picked up a relatively unknown player at a bargain fee.
13 Jan 2020 22:27:06
Some of these would have struggled in the days of Rush, Hughes, Lineker etc. The days that defenders were not penalised for breathing on the forward.