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08 Jan 2021 10:47:42
I'm not going to get into the seemingly ever-constant debate around OGS and the capability of this squad, that conversation has been done to death and quite frankly makes for some tiresome reading.

I would however like to talk about two things. Firstly, Donny van de Beek. I, like most others on here, was excited by this signing and was expecting great things. However, looking back I think it was potentially naive to think he was going to walk into the team straight away. He's new to the league, is still young at only 23 (? ) and needs to get used to our players and build relationships to understand how they play and move etc. Furthermore, and I've said this before in a previous post, I believe he was signed as a replacement for Paul Pogba. Whether that was to be an immediate replacement (thinking PP would leave last summer), or whether we actually displayed some foresight and planned to bed him in this season knowing PP was going this coming summer and for DvdB to take his place in the team next season, remains to be seen, though I believe that was the plan for him. I may be wrong. I hope I'm not. Though personally I can see a midfield of Donny, Bruno and a mobile CDM working very well (in fact, on the occasions he's been given a chance, I've liked the way Bruno and Donny work together) . I just think we need to exercise some patience with DvdB and I reckon we'll start to see a bit more of him in the second half of the season.

Secondly, Amad Diallo. He's still a young kid but is clearly very talented. I for one was underwhelmed last summer when we spent a lot of time chasing Sancho and ending up signing Pellistri and Diallo. That being said, I am excited by this signing. Some people have mentioned it before, but it has a feel (and I'd like to stress that word) of a Ronaldo-type signing. I'm not saying for one second I'm putting that pressure on him, but there's just something about him that excites me. I haven't watched him play extensively or at all really, so I can't explain why. Like many others, I assumed he'd come in and spend most of the season in the U23's to bed in and take his time and that maybe we would see him once or twice at the back end of cup games. However after the announcement of his squad number today, I'm not so sure. I think it'll take some time but I reckon he'll feature a bit more than I first expected. I may be completely wrong and it's just my opinion so I'm keen to see what others think? Do you reckon he'll play much this season?

Hope everyone is happy and healthy despite the current circumstances.

UnitedInRed

1.) 08 Jan 2021 13:22:44
Good post UIR.

Sky are already talking about Diablo in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Messi, which is ridiculous.

It may be a couple of seasons before he makes double digit first team starts. We’d be wise to offer the kid some patience.

Ole has his favourites so he will need to work very hard and bring Ole an apple every day if he wants to speed up his progress.


2.) 08 Jan 2021 14:58:52
Ole said Diallo's decision making is really good for his age, so we may see him in action pretty soon.

Since we don't have any real competition at RW, he can make that position his own.


3.) 08 Jan 2021 13:44:59
I agree, Wazza - the Ronaldo and Messi comparisons are ridiculous (despite the fact I did that myself in some way) and any player should have to earn that comparison. My comparison was merely that the excitement around him feels similar.

Personally I would like to see Martial sold this summer, with Mata moved to a coaching role and James either loaned out to another Premier League club or sold. That way we’ll have room for a Sancho-type signing and space for the likes of Pellistri and Diallo feature in the cup games/ off the bench, and allow Greenwood to deputise Cavani in the central role (assuming we don’t sign a Haaland-type) .


4.) 08 Jan 2021 15:28:13
UIR, Eds have repeatedly told us that there is no plan for DVdB and hence he is on the market. But assuming that your premise is true that he needs bedding in, i am sure he won't bed in sitting on the bench.


5.) 08 Jan 2021 16:15:37
Shan - I’ve seen the Ed’s comments on DvdB but I read that as though he’s being offered around by his own agent/ team, as opposed to the club offering him around. That my be me reading it wrong but you’re right to point it out. If it is indeed the club offering him around, it’s certainly a worrying thought.

I agree he won’t bed in from the bench, hence why I theorised we may see more of him in the second half of the season.

I guess only time will tell.


6.) 08 Jan 2021 16:56:25
I agree UIR and hoping that you are right and he is utilised properly in the remaining half of the season. Ole seems adamant in his selections though and doesn't rest his favorites so don't really see how he can get a game. But really don't wish to see him leave because some people are stupid enough to hold pogba hostage.


 

 

12 Dec 2020 11:01:41
I'm excited, I'm nervous, but ultimately not sure,
Which United will turn up, will we struggle to score?
Does he play a back four, does he play a back 3,
Will he come up with a way to stop KDB?
Does Ole have any plan at all?
And if he has one, it should be not to play Paul!
The fact I don't know, the fact that I'm hesitant,
Is exactly the issue with United at present.
We're up then we're down but still within distance,
Despite our defence being wildly inconsistent.
Is Ole the right man, or is he a fake?
I just wish he'd play Donny Van de Beek!
Calm on the ball, and intelligent movement,
With him and Fernandes I think we'll see an improvement.
It's my opinion he was Pogba's replacement,
But no other team would be so complacent,
To buy a player who commands such ridiculous wages,
For not doing much and his agent taking up back pages!
Anyway back to Ole, he's done some good things,
But I think it's not long until his final bell rings.
Who comes in next I have no idea,
Who's attainable and brave and leads without fear,
I have some suggestions but now's not the time,
Today shouldn't matter who's on the touch line,
The players should be fired up and ready for war,
I know Bruno will be but will there be any more?
Despite the above, I'll be cheering the side,
Wearing the shirt with passion and pride,
Let's silence the neighbours, let's move 4 points ahead,
The Manchester Derby - COME ON YOU REDS!

UnitedInRed

1.) 12 Dec 2020 11:20:23
Bravo sir.


2.) 12 Dec 2020 12:06:35
well done sir 👏.


3.) 12 Dec 2020 13:29:37
Fine work!


4.) 12 Dec 2020 13:29:41
Fair play! Good effort!


5.) 12 Dec 2020 13:45:01
Like that unitedinred. Very good. 👍👌.


6.) 12 Dec 2020 14:18:14
Wohoo lovin that.


7.) 12 Dec 2020 14:37:14
Good effort! Needs some artistic video to accompany of eric scoring, owen's last gasps winner, THAT Rooney overhead and Kean just hacking away 😁🤣.


8.) 12 Dec 2020 16:24:55
Quality stuff.


9.) 12 Dec 2020 17:11:10
Very good, was a little long though😂.


 

 

12 Dec 2020 00:39:49
I was having a conversation with my mate today and I posed a question to him that turned out to be harder to answer than I first expected.

You can only sign one individual from each of the top 5 leagues (England, Spain, Germany, France and Italy) . You must sign 4 players and employ one manager - who do you go for?

My eventual picks were as follows.

England - Van Dijk
Spain - Valverde
Germany - Haaland
France - Mbappe
Italy - Ralf Rangnick (I'm aware he's currently a free agent but I fudged the system based on his last post)

Always interested to read the differing views of the posters on this page, so intrigued to know who you guys would go for?

UnitedInRed

{Ed0666's Note - super question


1.) 12 Dec 2020 02:19:39
As a Liverpool supporter mate I would take coutinho from Spain and put him in the reserves. Can’t argue with your other choices.


2.) 12 Dec 2020 04:16:00
Italy-Tonali
England-Son
Spain-Pau Torres
France-Mbappe
Germany-Nagelsmann.


3.) 12 Dec 2020 07:53:44
I cheated and went for a player from each of the leagues

Italy- De Vrij
France - Camavinga
Spain - Fati
England - De Bruyne
Germany - Haaland

I didn't chose manager as like most supporters my opinion on them changes from week to week.


4.) 12 Dec 2020 08:02:56
Italy - De Ligt
England - Klopp
Spain - Saul
France - Mbappe
Germany - Haaland.


5.) 12 Dec 2020 08:19:27
Italy - Bastoni
Spain - Saul Niguez
England - Son
France - Luis Campos (DoF most important)
Germany - Nagelsmann.


6.) 12 Dec 2020 08:22:59
England - Hasenhüttl
France - Mbappe
Germany - Haaland
Italy - Brozovic
Spain - Torres.


7.) 12 Dec 2020 10:14:18
Fabinho
Mbappe
Kimmich
Bentancur
Saul

As a manager I’ll take a free agent in poch.


8.) 12 Dec 2020 13:40:30
England Kane
Spain Saul
Germany Alphonso Davies
France Mbappe
Italy Ruiz.


 

 

09 Jul 2020 10:18:20
I don't often post much, but I'll start the way I have my other posts - thank you to the Ed's for the fantastic work and information that goes into this site. Also, while a lot on here seem to have differing views, it's nice to see the spirited debate that breaks out.

Recently, I've been having some thoughts on OGS that I wanted to put to the people here to gauge their opinion.

Before I go on, I'll be honest, I've been on the fence about Ole as a manager. At times he's seemed a tad naive with his in-game management, and has come across as a bit 'soft' for what I believe a manager should be.

That being said, I've been really impressed with him for the last 6 months or so, and I'm not talking about the results. I think his conduct, the way he speaks to the media, the way he talks about the club, the players, the way he talks about what it means to be a Manchester United player. I've been really impressed. I for one wasn't convinced by the fact he got the job simply because he 'got' the club - but I can now see why that's been so important. He's bought some players with the right attitude, the right personality and we can see the affect they're having on the team.

I think what's impressed me most though, is his willingness to call out players that aren't pulling their weight, that are coasting. The players that have been taking our club for a ride the last few years. Every interview he does, I start to see a different side of him. A steely side. One that says 'this is Manchester United and if you don't pull your weight, then you can leave'. People on here have said it many times and Sir Alex used to say the same thing - no one is bigger than the club.

Ole knows that and you can see the players are starting to understand that. Our previous managers didn't understand that. Moyes was just all kinds of wrong, LVG and Mourinho made it all about them, but Ole is demonstrating why it's so important to have someone who truly understands the club. Slowly but surely, we are starting to see a shift. The players are happy, they fight for each other and the badge, and more importantly, they're playing for their manager and that's the first time I feel I can honestly say that since Sir Alex left.

Whether he's the man to take us right back to the top remains to be seen, and I think we'll get a good idea once he's added a few more additions and have a stronger squad depth. But one thing is for sure, I'm really starting to enjoy what I see on and off the pitch and I for one am loving it.

Even if Ole isn't here in a years time, I think it's fair to say that he's been the most important manager we've had since Sir Alex left, and will have had a big hand in our future success. If that is the case, it'll be on the board to get the right man in to take that next step, but he's created this sense of positivity around the club and think he deserves the chance to take that next step himself.

UnitedInRed

1.) 09 Jul 2020 10:38:03
Great post UnitedInRed. Looking forward to more of your posts.


2.) 09 Jul 2020 10:59:37
Brilliant post. I think it’s clear Ole will leave this club (whenever that is) in a much better place than He found it.


3.) 09 Jul 2020 11:09:49
Great post. Everyone knows Ole looked a stop gap and being a playing legend he would still be Ole and fairly crucially at that time by Woodward and the board time even if results continued to be poor. Results were unexpectedly fabulous initially then we tailed off after Ole was made permanent.

Woodward has got lucky with Ole in my view. Ole has clearly had his moments and regardless of whether we finish in the Top 4 our points tally for the season will be below par. That said it’s clear that Ole has had a vision for how we want to play: improving an awful defence first, blooding youth, players with pace to burn and the creativity of Bruno. I honestly think we were in for Bruno in the summer but Ole was told we’d have to sell before we buy and there were no takers for our the underperformers in our bloated squad.

With the Bruno his conductor and Pogba and Rashford back from injuries, Martial keeping fit and the emergence of Greenwood we look to have really clicked.

We look to have the creativity to breakdown so called weaker sides who put 10 men behind the ball. And credit where it’s due to Ole he’s took points of the better managers in the league.

Ole clearly has had a plan all along, Woodward to his credit has bought into that, and we have started to see the investment and backing needed to make us a success again.

This summer is still pivotal for us and if the chequebook is closed it means Glazers are happy with Top 4 and the odd cup. If it’s open and we go after players of the quality of Sancho, Van de Beek, Saul, Havertz, Grealish perhaps it’s a very promising sign.

Big summer ahead.


4.) 09 Jul 2020 11:11:39
Good post, I agree eith most of that.


5.) 09 Jul 2020 11:28:25
Top post UnitedInRed. You win the internet for a day.


6.) 09 Jul 2020 11:58:19
I agree, i also was'nt sure about Ole after he signed a permenant deal but he's definetly won me over now. I think he could be harder on the players than we see. It looks like he's showing them how they have to act to be at this club.


7.) 09 Jul 2020 12:25:13
I can't pick any holes in that. Top post. You should post more often.


8.) 09 Jul 2020 12:59:26
Fully agree! Great post!

See Charlie Nicholas predicting 2 2 draw tonight with villa! Never liked him. Never trust a man with a ear ring!


9.) 09 Jul 2020 14:39:54
Leonard you wouldn't have trusted me much when I was younger, I had 10 ear piercings plus a few others.


10.) 09 Jul 2020 17:31:52
Good god shappy u must look like a dart board lol.


11.) 09 Jul 2020 20:06:23
Top post.
I supported ole originally but questioned him getting the permenent role when he did.
Despite the poor end to the season i started this season with the view ole should be judged at the end of the season. But gave up in november and my view was that he should be fired.
Much to his credit since jan he and the team have improved vastly.
It looks so much better over the last 12 games.
If we fail to win a cup or get top 4 i'm not sure he would be kept on.
Yet we could finish 3rd and win 2 cups.


 

 

02 Aug 2018 12:00:15
That is my worry RJ. I have a good feeling Pereira will get a run of games at the start of the season, perform well and then as soon as we have Jose’s ‘reliables’ back then he’ll be dropped.

Having said that, there’s also the possibility of José sticking to a winning formula, as we know he likes to do. So if we start the season well with Pereira, Fred and Herrera in midfield, José may want to stick with them to keep the momentum, though somehow. i think he’s more likely to bring them back in asap.

Either way, as you say jred. it shaping up to be an interesting start to the season.

UnitedInRed

1.) 02 Aug 2018 13:30:39
It's been hard to make any kind of valued assessment on pre season with so many important players missing but I think we can take a few positives away from what we've seen so far.

The undoubted success of pre season has been Sanchez. He looks fit, fresh and perhaps more importantly hungry. Just as I thought Mata was surplus to requirements he appears to have forged an almost telepathic relationship with Sanchez and they've linked up brilliantly together. I've also been impressed with Pereira. He's been very good in possession and always looks forward. I hope he stays and fights for his place he could be a very useful addition to the squad.

Anyway all this got me thinking to how we could implement this next season. I don't think it's any coincidence that Sanchez has performed better higher up the pitch. Sometimes when he plays wide left he drops far too deep in search of the ball. In deeper positions he occupies Pogba's space and often finds himself with only one forward option in Lukaku. He has a tendency to surrender possession by trying to dribble his way out of dangerous, congested areas or plays the ball sideways or backwards as he has no other options.

I don't think Jose will persist with three at the back so surely there is merit in adopting a 4-4-2 diamond formation. A midfield diamond of Matic, Pogba, Fred with Mata or Lingard at 10 and Sanchez partnering Lukaku up front. Ok it might lack width but we don't really play with width anyway. It stops Sanchez from dropping too deep and he can still pull into wide left positions, where he can cut inside and shoot or deliver crosses for Lukaku.

This formation may also benefit Pogba. He has defensive cover in Matic, a No 10 to link with and Sanchez making runs in behind opening up space. Fred will bring an energy and intensity to our midfield. He is also very good in possession and mobile. He'll be able to quickly interchange positions with the likes of Sanchez, Mata or Lingard helping us to be more fluid, dynamic and retain possession in more dangerous areas.

I accept in an ideal world that better options at full back would help provide this formation with more attacking width but Young and Valencia are solid options without being spectacular.

In terms of signings we wouldn't need a RW with possibly a new CB our only real requirement. Whilst I think our existing CB's are adequate all are injury prone and none have really cemented their place as first choice. I think Alderweireld would be a great addition but I wouldn't hold my breath. Having said that if we could move on Darmian, Rojo and maybe even Smalling in the next week or so that might just release the funds to give Spurs what they want. 29 is still relatively sprightly for a CB and if we want the best then we'll have to pay. Surely quality trumps quantity and that would still leave us with Bailly, Lindelof, Jones and Tuanzebee who I think can be a superstar.


2.) 02 Aug 2018 15:08:37
I think in an ideal world we'd all envisage Matic being rested in the 10-12 league games at Old Trafford where teams come with the game of plan of scraping a draw or nicking a goal. This would be perfect for Pereira to further develop in to the deep lying playmaker role.

Sadly only really see Jose doing this if we improve our defence before the deadline.

There is a reputable London and chiefly spurs based journo now saying Toby is likely to leave spurs. So here's hoping.


3.) 02 Aug 2018 15:44:40
Totally agree Nathaniel I'd like to see Pereira given that role whilst Matic is out injured. I certainly don't see any problem with him playing that position especially like you've said against teams that will sit back and concede possession.

I think it was Shappy who posted a few days ago and commented that he'd like to see Pereira learn from Carrick and improve defensively by improving his anticipation and reading of the game. Making interceptions then intelligently moving the ball forward making incisive passes.

You don't have to be overly physical or a good tackler to be a good defensive player. Reading the game, spotting danger, taking up the right positions and cutting out passes can be just as effective. Carrick was brilliant at this. This is hopefully an area that Pereira can improve to supplement his technical ability on the ball.


4.) 02 Aug 2018 15:45:58
If Smalling lraves then Toby will come.


 

 

 

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11 Jan 2018 16:04:55
Okay Ed, no worries! Thanks for the info.

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11 Jan 2018 15:40:38
Thanks for the info Ed. Sorry for asking but I don’t suppose you could elaborate on what was discussed this morning could you? I appreciate you’re probably sick of answering Sanchez related questions but will be interesting to see what’s changed. Many thanks as always!

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08 Jan 2021 16:15:37
Shan - I’ve seen the Ed’s comments on DvdB but I read that as though he’s being offered around by his own agent/ team, as opposed to the club offering him around. That my be me reading it wrong but you’re right to point it out. If it is indeed the club offering him around, it’s certainly a worrying thought.

I agree he won’t bed in from the bench, hence why I theorised we may see more of him in the second half of the season.

I guess only time will tell.

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08 Jan 2021 13:44:59
I agree, Wazza - the Ronaldo and Messi comparisons are ridiculous (despite the fact I did that myself in some way) and any player should have to earn that comparison. My comparison was merely that the excitement around him feels similar.

Personally I would like to see Martial sold this summer, with Mata moved to a coaching role and James either loaned out to another Premier League club or sold. That way we’ll have room for a Sancho-type signing and space for the likes of Pellistri and Diallo feature in the cup games/ off the bench, and allow Greenwood to deputise Cavani in the central role (assuming we don’t sign a Haaland-type) .

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12 Dec 2020 10:07:26
Today is a tough call. City are looking a little more solid at the back but I think we can still hurt them on the counter.

It will be interesting to see how the team reacts today following the midweek disappointment. If we see a reaction, then I think it buys Ole some time. But if they walk all over us and we play like we did against Leipzig then I think serious questions will be asked as to whether these players are playing for Ole.

I’m cautiously optimistic and like you say, this is the type of game Ole and the team have pulled out a result in recent history. I’m going for a 2-1 home win, but I (unfortunately) can also seeing it be a big score line the other way with our defence currently.

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08 May 2020 00:25:44
I don’t post on here very much, but this one peaked my interest (no doubt the drinks that prefaced this helped as well) .
I hope everyone is well and, as always, thank you to the Ed’s for the expert insight. Not a day goes past I don’t read the site.

First off, I’ll admit that I wasn’t enthralled when Ole was given the job full time. While being a club legend and someone who clearly understands the club and it’s ethos, I was skeptical of his (lack of) managerial experience and felt it was a mistake to give him the post on a long term basis and the whole thing stank of a knee-jerk reaction to some media pressure from some club legends.

I’m a fan of Pochettino. I like the way his teams play and I’ve been impressed by the work he’s done with the squads he’s been given. ‘Given’ being the operative word in that sentence. People can hound his record all they want, and point to his lack of silverware until the cows come home, but we have yet to see the man given an opportunity to invest properly in a squad. So if he were to get the Newcastle job, it would be interesting to see the outcome as I believe we’ll truly see what he can do when given the freedom to build his squad on his terms.

Personally, if I HAD to replace Ole with anyone, right now my pick would be Ten Hag from Ajax. I have loved watching the football he plays and he’s got experience of winning titles and the players seem to love playing for him.

All that being said. why are we worrying or even talking about what’s going on over at Newcastle? The takeover may go through, it may not but ultimately, who cares? And why?!

To focus on the situation over there seems an extremely reactionary attitude and not a healthy one at that. Yes, you may point towards the fact that they have an opportunity to invest well and build themselves back up to a force in football once again, but why is that any of our concern? We can only have an impact of what goes on at Manchester United and so I feel the club’s best recourse would be to identify our weaknesses, invest in those areas to make US a better TEAM.

Last time the club made a knee-jerk decision based on what what other clubs were doing, we ended up with Alexis Sanchez.

Sorry, this is turning into the essay I hoping to avoid. I just believe that as a club we need to spend more time looking at our own situation and addressing the issues we have in order to make us into title challengers again, as opposed to looking at what others are doing.

Especially a team fighting relegation.

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20 Jul 2018 08:29:56
If I had to pick of what’s most likely available right now, it would be Bale at the moment as he seems the more attainable. But if I had to choose my dream signing, it would most likely be Mbappe. Pulisic looks a very good players and wouldn’t be upset if we signed him at all, but Mbappe Just looks special to me.

That’s a good point zidaniel. While he seems to have the skill and passing range, he does seem to lack some of that arrogance we often see in other cm’s. But does that come from game time? Or is he just more suited to somewhere like La Liga where he has more time in the ball?

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