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11 May 2022 12:09:03
Jim Ratcliffe rumours gathering pace. Has he put a late bid in to Chelsea for £4.2bn knowing it would be dismissed just to illustrate he's looking to buy now? Surely £4bn would open even the Glazers eyes to the inevitable. It's that or watching United decline whilst still milking £30-40m a year in dividends. A No Brainer even for them to quadruple their 'investment' with not a penny more outlay?


1.) 11 May 2022 12:34:30
Pipe dream unfortunately…our useless owners aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

2.) 11 May 2022 13:16:23
Unfortunately I can't see it happening. ED002 did say on the Chelsea page, that he would a very good owner.

I think it would cost too much to buy Utd, when you consider the debt, the OT refurb and the training ground refurb costs. The likelihood is that the Glazers would want top dollar for the club.

3.) 11 May 2022 15:05:54
How much is Chelsea fetching? £2.5bn (going to charitable causes? ) + £1.75bn in other commitments? They have a smaller ground that's landlocked but they do have ECL revenues and a far more valuable squad, and no public debt to carry. With its bigger ground United has more potential in the long run even if gate revenue as a % is a much smaller share of total revenue than it used to be. But given the squad rebuild, the £500m debt, and a scheduled £200m OT improvements, I can't see United being worth any more than Chelsea as of today. This generally squares with a market capitalization of $2.2bn. The risk the Glazers have is that EtH cannot turn the ship around, in which case the club could become less valuable.

4.) 11 May 2022 17:06:40
United aren't for sale, Chelsea are. Man Utd are not well run, Chelsea are. The guy is a business man and a very successful one.

The both need investment in the ground.

To buy Man Utd right now you would be having to overpay for the club to prise it from the Glazers, this doesn't make business sense compared to bidding for Chelsea imo.

That's not to say I would not want him too I would love him too. Everything you read about him and his brother makes them sound like they would be good owners.

5.) 11 May 2022 17:23:36
Shawthing- i wrote very similar recently- not about RATCLIFFE-he would be a good owner no doubt -but i think the Chelsea situation flushed buyers out .

Now, United in my opinion if United sold at 4.2 billion -600 mill on ground improvement and expansion 200 mill on players -would be an intial 5billion investment - with no debt going forward and a resonable budget each season for players we would be a very good investment for a lot of those buyers who showed interest in Chelsea seeing as our commercial pulling power is far greater than Chelseas.

{Ed002's Note - You are making all of these numbers up - you are wasting your time.}

6.) 11 May 2022 18:31:06
Nonsense numbers.
Where do get no debt from?
Do you expect a potential new owner to raid their piggy bank and pay cash and write their investment off.
Unbelievable Geoff.
Ignorance is bliss
My oh my.

7.) 11 May 2022 18:34:31
of course i'm making them up, the clubs not for sale apparently and if it were no one knows what the sale price would be.

8.) 11 May 2022 19:15:46
Investment ken? Is that what Newcastle owners have done? If someone buys a club from their personal wealth -or piggy bank as you childishly said - with no loans then a commercial giant like United generates enough wealth to have a profit at the end of each year -so yes there is no debt. Buying as an investment, or proppping up with loans that need to be paid back is something else.

Not sure how many mergers or companies in Europe youve bought in the last 35 years but you might want to wind your neck in before calling folks who have ignorant.

9.) 11 May 2022 20:17:57
3 companies full acquisitions and transitioned 4 or 5 multinational brands.
Off course there is debt silly billy. You think there are no personal loans on the books it would be financial suicide and not tax efficient.
My neck is fine.



30 Aug 2021 14:20:17
Dan James off to Leeds. But a loan deal only, outright transfer or part of a deal for Kalvin Phillips? Know we've looked at Phillips previously but seemingly moved on to other targets?


1.) 30 Aug 2021 14:52:02
A few places suggesting it’s permanent. I’d prefer it that way if it increases our chances of signing a midfielder, but would take a loan. Not sure he’ll ever be United quality, but he’ll improve dramatically under Bielsa. Can see him notching 15 goals/ assists for them this season.

2.) 30 Aug 2021 15:05:03

I agree with except for the 15goals/ assists.

3.) 30 Aug 2021 15:49:01
To be clear, I meant 15 total (like 7 goals + 8 assists or something) .

4.) 30 Aug 2021 16:27:55

I think MH probably knew that and still didn’t agree. Diogo Dalot has completed more dribbles this season than Dan James, he’s played 1 minute.

5.) 30 Aug 2021 16:40:03

Maybe so, but despite his work ethic being great, he is lacking at the top level. Much of that has been due to poor coaching, since he has joined the club. I don't think he has progressed at all.

6.) 30 Aug 2021 17:17:48
Dan Jamesss is like Walcott. Lots of pace but no end product. Infact i'd say Walcott was better then him.

7.) 30 Aug 2021 17:59:38

I couldn't agree more.

8.) 30 Aug 2021 23:41:59
He didn't even look that quick recently. I know he gets "clocked" as one of the fastest players, but with my eyes I rarely look at him running next to a full back and think WOW he's fast.

9.) 30 Aug 2021 23:55:29
Apparently permanant deal. We'll see, bit glad he'll be off, best for everyone.



11 Nov 2020 17:14:00
Is there any update the Eds / fellow posters could provide re January window or future transfer plans? Given we have Diallo arriving in Jan I cannot see us in for Sancho again. We are still crying out for a CB and in my view a CF in this team but not expecting any movement at all in January.

I appreciate Greenwood is the longer term centre forward option and he will get plenty of opportunities this season in all of the front 3 positions. Current press about his attitude etc is more likely just to sell papers and I am aware he's had a close friend pass away. Greenwood will come good I've no doubt about it though not perhaps ready as first choice just yet?

I would prefer Rashford up top to Martial in all honesty and clearly Cavani was a bit of a panic buy late in the day. Albeit he's been a class player in his time. He like the lesser-spotted Ighalo is the wrong side of 30 though and I do think our team could be transformed with a class centre forward. Martial is just to in and out for me.

I strongly suspect the chequebook will be closed until next season and possibly it be a new manager looking to call the shots then. Ole still on borrowed time for me despite the Everton win. It was after all 'just' winning a must win game. And they are kinda all must-win now.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated as always and hope everyone is enduring Lockdown Part Deux as best they can.


{Ed002's Note - Assuming Diallo arrives he won’t be for the first team.}

1.) 11 Nov 2020 18:33:52
Having spent £25m of our precious coin on Diallo and Pellistri combined (though paper quotes suggest that as high as £40m) I had mistakenly assumed one, Diallo presumably, would have been earmarked to integrate into the first team. I appreciate we, as all teams are doing, are buying up a lot of younger prospects at the moment though.

Does Diallo still have a work permit issue Ed? I am conscious he looks to have had a name change from Traore which doesn't strike me as a good sign!

{Ed002's Note - There is an ongoing investigation due to rule in December.}

2.) 11 Nov 2020 23:06:37
Thanks Ed. Very helpful.



10 Oct 2020 15:00:50
The young Swansea CB Joe Rodon may be heading to Spurs seemingly but I'm conscious he was noted by the Eds as a player we've looked at previously. Is a move to Tottenham a done deal or someone United could yet look to before the 16Oct deadline?


{Ed002's Note - I had said there was no interest.}

1.) 10 Oct 2020 16:47:00
Thanks Ed002. Hope you're having a good weekend.

{Ed002's Note - A very busy weekend. But thanks.}



15 Aug 2020 12:29:08
Eds know if there's been any genuine United interest in Chilwell at Leicester? Or the usual United clickbait? I think he's Chelsea bound.

Talking of leftbacks one of our ex scouts apparently made not one, not two, but forty reports on a certain Alphonso Davies with a strong recommendation to sign him. Maybe our scouts aren't as crap as what we think. Their info just isn't acted on.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by MU.}

1.) 15 Aug 2020 14:23:23
Only appeared in the news a couple of days ago. get the feeling it’s just one of those stories to set up ‘chilwell chooses Chelsea over united’ headlines.

2.) 15 Aug 2020 18:27:50
Cheers Ed. Suspected it was the usual press BS.




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25 May 2022 17:52:27
Nunez, De Jong, Torres and Timber look to be the 4 coming in. I'd be happy with that. 9 or 10 heading out most likely but given budget available and need to invest in quality think 4 players was always going to be the max we could bring in. Appreciate Van de Beek and Garner will be classed as new midfielders essentially and clearly we'd all have hopes that other youth prospects will be given first team chances.

No specific DM would be an obvious worry though possibility of longer game being played out for Rice?

Ten Hag has already said that getting back into Champions League is immediate target. He has to get a tune out of a number of players who've abjectly failed this season in order to do that. At last we know we have a manager who's well respected and a proper coach who'll get us playing attacking football again. City and Liverpool will remain lightyears ahead of us next 2 seasons but fight for Top4 will be a battle royale I think next year between ourselves, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and possibly Newcastle.


1.) 25 May 2022 18:30:58
Where you getting this info from halesini?

2.) 25 May 2022 18:31:19
Can’t see us getting both Torres AND Timber.

Also don’t think Nunez will sign considering the amount of clubs after him.

3.) 25 May 2022 19:20:54
I think two mids is more likely than two CBs, and although CL isn't a necessity for lots of players I think Nunez will be looking for it. But far more than any player we've been linked with I would love to see de Jong come in. This orchestra needs a conductor. At the minute it's a litter tray with 11 turds floating around inside it.

4.) 25 May 2022 19:29:13
There’s zero chance of all four of them coming in.

5.) 25 May 2022 21:36:29
Timber as RB Pau as LCB.

6.) 25 May 2022 21:50:28
I’d be shocked if we signed De Jong or Nunez.

We’re a clear step down for De Jong, and Nunez will have much better options.

I think supporters need to start recognising that Man Utd are no longer a top club and won’t be unless we rebuild via intelligent recruitment instead of throwing money at players who would prefer to be elsewhere.

7.) 25 May 2022 22:04:35
I’d be surprised if we get any of them 4, why are you posting this as if it’s August and it’s happened?

8.) 25 May 2022 23:52:39
One of them is on the verge GDS2. Apparently.

9.) 26 May 2022 00:31:47
Spenno the key word there is apparently.

Yet to see anything from anyone I would trust suggesting any deal is imminent.

10.) 26 May 2022 01:30:19
Good one halesini, you'll notice this was posted on banter and not rumours ?

Be astonished if those 4 come in. But if we get close, like that Liverpool fan should of, take the CASH OUT option ?.

11.) 26 May 2022 05:26:09
I doubt any of those 4 are coming, I have doubts Torres is robust enough anyway. As others have mentioned we do have pulling power and pay big wages but Chelsea seem sorted now, Spurs getting at least 150 mill, even Newcastle will ruffle a few feathers -so we have to accept we are a top 6 team now, not even a good cup team - there is a price to pay for that drop in standards.

12.) 26 May 2022 08:07:15
Agree will be happy if we get two of them.
We were lucky to finish 6th so potential players do not see MU as a step up at present with spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, MC are seen a better option.
We are in the mix for players with the likes of Arsenal, Newcastle, Aston Villa and even West Ham .
Once new manager and coaching staff have proved improvement on the pitch coupled with behind scenes positive changes expect our status to attract will improve next summer .
The good news is that players that do come want to actually play for MU and not mercenaries.

13.) 26 May 2022 09:10:26
Timber is nailed on apparently. Only time will tell if he’s good enough though. Can’t be any worse than slab though…….

14.) 26 May 2022 10:04:58
Once we sign Timber i expect us to go for Chris Wood.



03 May 2022 19:09:36
Darwin Nunez - a host of clubs will be looking at him and practically a goal a game speaks volumes. But for those who have seen him play more than I have, which team do you think he would be best fit for?

Mbappe to Real?
Haaland to City?

That's two of the big hitters potentially out of the running for him but for example would Liverpool look to him to bolster their forward line - expect so. Carry on building and bettering your squad when you're on top - which unfortunately they are!


1.) 03 May 2022 20:48:34
I would imagine Liverpool will focus on their Midfield this season, znd a good addition there could make the frighteningly good.

Nunez reminds me a bit of Thierry Henry in his pace, ability to run at people and to seek out the space to make a run to stretch a defense.

I see lot of comparisons to Cavani, he is tall and powerful and Urugyuan but not as good in the air or with the physicality that prime Cavani had. (he's a player I wish we had got 10 years ago) .

I didn't see him holding the ball up really, but he did a lot of work running in the channels and chasing lost causes. He has the pace to rush up on a CB and can pushbem about too. Maguire would hate fCing him.

2.) 03 May 2022 20:51:56
As for where, I think he is good enough that any good coach could use him. I think he might be a good fit at Arsenal.

3.) 03 May 2022 21:03:11
Thanks Oakbark. The Thierry Henry comment makes me appreciate his style. Not seen a lot of him but appreciate he is the next big thing. I think Maguire would hate facing me and I'm 50yo with a pot belly lol.



31 Aug 2021 19:08:51
So our midfield list was seemingly:
Disappointing not to get one of those but let's not forget we effectively swapped Dan James for Ronaldo and signed two quality first teamers in Varane and Sancho.
Ole has no excuses this season. Silverware and a title challenge is the minimum.




08 Aug 2021 15:26:38
Given the fire sale at Barcelona and Inter respectively amongst others, do United have interest in players such as Frenkie de Jong or Lautaro Martinez?

Quality midfielder and forward respectively who'd add a lot.

De Jong I see as 'ungettable' but then again nobody was expecting Messi not to stay.

Martinez I can see going to Spurs if they cash in on Kane to City.


{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what fire sales you are referring to. Barcelona would be happy to sell Griezmann, Coutinho or several others to you.}

1.) 08 Aug 2021 21:39:15
Halesini, I said exactly the same to my brother the other day regarding De Jong.
Any other window and he’d be seen as out of bounds but I’d definitely be looking to test Barca’s resolve with a £50m bid.

2.) 09 Aug 2021 09:52:37
Do Utd have interest in FDJ. i'm sure Utd need to sell before making any further signings.

From ED002s posts, FDJ has never been mentioned as a target for Utd. Whereas players like Rice, Saul have.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

3.) 09 Aug 2021 12:51:06
Thanks ED002,

I thought it was unlikely. I'm hoping to see a few players sold aswell.



31 Jul 2021 16:35:48
Hope you're all having a good summer chaps and chapesses and looking forward to the new season.

Ole will always divide opinion and it feels 60/ 40 against Norway's finest at best here most of the time and sure there will be some points more like 80/ 20 at times also.

Pivotal season in his tenure though as having been backed now with his first choice RW and CB now is a must win season. We have been starved of real success for so long that many would be happy with an FA or League Cup - I remember the 80s when that was all that was ever on offer! But real success now can surely only be judged by winning the Premier League or Champions League. And the odds makers would certainly suggest that's not going to happen (8/ 1 for the League and 14/ 1 for the UCL for those who like a flutter) .

So two questions:
1 - do you see United winning silverware this season and if so why do you think that is?

For me, yes - much better defensive partnership with Varane once settled and we finally have a RW we have been crying out for. Another season for Greenwood to develop and our longer term CF learning from Cavani.

2 - who do you see as United's long term keeper?

De Gea has been off the boil from his once world class perch for 3 seasons though with a fixed and better CB partnership in front of him and Shaw's resurgence I think we will be better defensively for sure. Henderson looked to be emerging as Ole's first choice but if so surely he would've played in the Europa League Final? So toss of a coin for me!


{Ed014's Note -

1. No
2. Phil Jones

1.) 31 Jul 2021 17:46:55
No I don't see United winning silverware this season. Certainly not the PL or CL. Can never say we won't win a cup because there's been plenty of below average managers who have had one decent cup run. However, I don't deem it likely.

As for the goalkeeping situation, I think we should go with Henderson but I really don't care. I'd just like to see a decision made for one and the other to be sold this summer.

2.) 31 Jul 2021 17:05:33
Ed that is harsh, Jones is learning from Cavani as next striker. He is going to put off opposition keepers by gunning.

{Ed014's Note - haha my bad mate! I’m amazed he hasn’t won a trophy with his gurning!

3.) 31 Jul 2021 18:10:41
1 yes, quadruple at the very least.

2 Henderson.

{Ed014's Note - you’re definitely in with a chance, of Henderson taking the keepers spot that is! 😉

4.) 31 Jul 2021 18:46:33
1. Who need titles when we got Ole.

2. In the short term DeGea and probably Henderson in the long term.

Ed014, heard that Jones got too excited being promoted as GK that he injured himself getting off the phone.

{Ed014's Note - 🤣🤣 bless him!

5.) 31 Jul 2021 18:55:30
1, we nearly won a cup last season so you've always got a chance in the cups. Whether we will or not depends on our luck in the draws and whether we can find a bit of form.

2, I think this is the season to give Henderson a run. I think with Varane signing we will be able to play a higher line, with that you need a keeper who can play the sweeper keeper role and come off their line. DDG isn't any good at that, while Henderson is. Again whether he can prove himself good enough long term remains to be seen.

6.) 31 Jul 2021 19:50:15
Shappy: Varane definitely means we can play higher up the pitch so agree the sweeper keeper comment which we know isn't a De Gea aspect. I thought it would be Henderson first choice this season but the Europa final threw me. Who knows maybe Tom Heaton will give them a run for their money.

Ed14: Jones was planning to play as a keeper but has unfortunately been forced to miss out his Lee Grant Soccer Skills goalie training due to injury.

As for winning something this year, I genuinely think Ole will break his silverware duck. Though wasn't quite planning on selling the house and backing the 135/ 1 odds available on a league and UCL double!

7.) 31 Jul 2021 19:51:46
he is certainly god blessed to survive at United for a decade without actually playing much 😉.

8.) 31 Jul 2021 22:37:00
No and sell them both. Ddg would be my choice if they both stay.

9.) 01 Aug 2021 10:15:09
1. League or CL, no. We have a chance in the League cup, possibly the FA Cup, as Leicester showed. I don’t think there is enough tactical awareness and ability to pull off the big ones. I wonder if we can score goals in big moments, see the EL final or semi finals. With Varane we should push up the pitch but goal scoring at key times is going to be vital.

2. Honest answer is neither Henderson or DDG. I suspect DDG has lost the confidence of defenders and Henderson never gained it. Henderson’s positioning for the Salah goal at OT made me seriously doubt him. Looks to me like we have dithered on a decision. DDG is probably a better shot stopper, but Henderson does sweep and communicate better, needed in modern keeping. Probably start with Henderson if we are pushing the line higher. I probably would have sold both and gone for Oblack with Heaton as back up. I would not have dealt with Romero in the way he was either.




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21 May 2022 14:43:51
Phil Jones career is a strange one. From having so much promise as a youngster at Blackburn and Fergie thinking he was future England Captain material. Blighted by injuries and clearly not at such a lofty level. Still has more trophies on his CV than most: Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League. He's 30 so time to find his final contract where he can play most weeks. Plenty of Premier League teams he could do a job for I'm sure. Imagine he will need to reduce his wage demands from his current £75k pw but am sure he doesn't need to worry about signing on anytime soon!




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21 May 2022 14:33:45
That's a little harsh on Mata. Was over the moon when we signed him. A great No.10 who was consistently never played there! I think it would be more Mata regretting signing for United than United regretting buying Mata. He just wasn't used in his best position.




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03 May 2022 19:00:06
Haaland goes to City.
Mbappe goes to Real.
Ronaldo's options look to be stay or go to PSG as assuming nobody else will be throwing £500k a week wages at him.
I don't see Ronaldo going personally. He's won it all already and surely his United return will be failure if he goes now - not that new manager and new team needed is any guarantee of success in 12 months time. Sure PSG is a shot at Champs League - and if that's his only driver then good luck to him. Its a farmers league though and he knows it.




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24 Apr 2022 14:08:12
We have been linked previously with Aarons for RB and Torres at CB. Key is do they fit with Ten Hag view of what he needs in such positions. I can see moves for players he has worked with before and both rates and trusts. I wouldn't be surprised if we looked at Timber for CB and De Ligt also. De Ligt would be a big money signing that may still be lusted after from the commercial side. Still only 22, Timber is 20. Far more likely we look to buy two CBs young enough to form a great partnership in future than go for someone with prom experience but ultimately you'd feel would fall short at the highest level in Tarkowski.




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07 Mar 2022 21:13:22
Spot on post Wallace. So many outgoings overdue its unreal and absolutely the most important summer ahead for us for decades. But I fear more than 4 signings, especially given we need world class replacements, will just be too much. can't see us in for the likes of Rice and Bellingham for midfield as their £100m or so price tags will eat up too much of the budget. And we will just repeat the same cycle if not careful of missing out on must-have targets. Don't be surprised if Van De Beek is not sold - certainly if Ten Hag comes in.

I think we will look to integrate back players like Williams and Garner for RB and DM respectively. Leaving budget for the strikers. Unbelievable to think only Elanga, who emerged but months ago, and Sancho would make the grade now in terms of attacking options.

Whoever comes in manager wise it feels like we are 3 or 4 years away now from challenging. On that basis we have to be ruthless and look at players 28 and over as being surplus to requirements.





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22 May 2022 16:21:31
I would love Rashford to kick on from his early promise but he has been mis-firing last 2 seasons, albeit played non-stop when clearly injured in one of them. But £90m for Rashford would be an insanely over the top price. Agree with United Addict they could have Martial for free there too.




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11 May 2022 12:18:02
I think we will but 5 possibly 6 players immediately who Ten Hag has already scouted with a view to his needs at Ajax. Appreciate they may be different from United but like all good managers he will have a longlist of players for every position, for next season and for future potential purchases too. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no household names brought in, nor does there need to be. We need technically strong players who can fit into Ten Hag’s style and philosophy. If Pochettino had got the job I think Harry Kane at No.9 would’ve been a certainty. But blowing majority of the budget in the process. Same if we went for Rice or Bellingham. Great players and they will make City, Liverpool etc or whoever they join much stronger. But given the number of players we need and the likely budget available I’d be genuinely surprised if we pay over £40m for any one player. It’s not the names and reputations they have now that matter. It’s whether whomever we sign they can be a great player for us.




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03 May 2022 21:25:04
We will have a seismic summer no matter who comes in. Cleary there is anything between 8-10 players who won't be here anymore and an emerging question mark over Ronaldo seemingly. Ronaldo could be quite key for me though in terms of attitude of players we need and may be able to attract. Sure he's on £500k+ a week but he remains undoubtedly one of the greatest players ever to have played the game. There is Cantona-esque impact on the younger players and their development also which can only be positive for the future.

Nothing develops players though like playing regularly and with the squad turnover we have plus likely limitation to 4 or 5 players incoming only given the quality we will need, there will be huge chances for the likes of Garner, Mejbri and co.

I'd be very happy to see Williams recalled to properly challenge for LB - surely he has a chance there.

Be interesting to see where the majority of our budget is spent. I can't see it going on a Rice or Bellingham at £100m+ when a striker or possibly two is an absolute must.

Interesting times ahead!




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03 May 2022 21:03:11
Thanks Oakbark. The Thierry Henry comment makes me appreciate his style. Not seen a lot of him but appreciate he is the next big thing. I think Maguire would hate facing me and I'm 50yo with a pot belly lol.




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07 Mar 2022 21:40:13
Cheers MK. Great post and nice to see the 'outsiders' perspective. Ten Hag surely a better option than Pochettino. I fear Pochettino is another 'never won anything' personally. Aware many will say Ten Hag has only won a weaker league etc but his style, seemingly parts Pep and Klopp approaches, appeals.

As obviously does his blooding the youth. Given the scale of the re-build we need, and not least writing off whatever happens in the first 2 seasons of a new manager no matter what, surely a mix of blooding the youngsters we already have and signing 4 key players to build the spine is essential.