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08 Aug 2022 09:54:53
Adrien Rabiot is this morning's link. Reported by Ornstein though, who is usually fairly spot on.

Another with an attitude problem and an agent who loves the limelight.

Interestingly, we are starting to get linked with £20m players. Has ETH decided the squad is so poor/ light thaT he'd be better off with four £20m signings than one at £80m? Interesting week ahead.

08 Aug 2022 10:19:19
Hope neither is true. Would be better off with neves and take a risk on the young kid from salzburg, although i suspect he will find it difficult and will need time and probably will get slammed here as the pl is a tough school for a 19 year old from austrian league.

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08 Aug 2022 11:00:49
I'm hoping the Rabiot and Arnautovic rumours don't lead anywhere. Both decent players, better than what we have, but neither look good enough for where we want to go and both have had attitude issues in the past.

Given our dressing room issues we need players with good attitudes, ideally players with EPL experience as we need players who will get to grips with the league immediately and not take half a season to acclimatise.

Fabian Ruiz would have been a great option, but given his impending move to PSG it looks like that boat has sailed.

Ruben Neves gets a lot of love and I wouldn't be against it, that said he would likely cost MORE than FDJ.

Matheus Nunes seems to be the hipsters pick, always seemed a gifted player when I've seen him. Although personally I think he's more suited to a box to box role than as a holding midfielder.

Youri Tielemans is probably the player I'd target, EPL experience and available for a reasonable price. While also probably being closer to the skillset EtH seems to be looking for in a midfielder (technically gifted, mobile, quick, press resistant, with an expansive passing range) .

Up front Sesko is the name that keeps being linked. Supposedly a talented player from everything I seen written about him. Only seen him in a UCL group game last season. Looked decent but didn't really stand out at that level at the time. Maybe by the time he's 22 he'll be considered world class. But we need a player who can make a difference this season not in 2-3 years time.

Mitrovic has been mentioned and I wouldn't be against it, seems a much better player now to the one who was in the EPL previously. Although he would likely cost a lot.

The EPL striker I'd go for would be Ivan Toney. works hard, presses well, good technical level linking well with teammates, and has a clinical finish when in front of goal. He looks very well suited to EtH's style of play. Again though cost could be prohibitive.

Both Mitrovic and Toney would likely cost upward of 40-50m as they are vital in their sides fight for EPL survival this season. Which is a lot of money to pay for a striker who won't necessarily be a long term first choice option.

Which leads me to Moussa Dembele of Lyon, proven scorer decent link play, good technical striker, good in the air and on the floor. While entering the final year of his contract and would be available for under 30m.

For me if you cannot get your first choice option then you cannot be paying top whack for your 2nd or 3rd choice compromise options.

If FDJ isn't going to happen and Ronaldo is determined to leave then maybe Tielemans and Dembele for less than what FDJ would cost initially let alone in total are probably the smartest moves available to the club.

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08 Aug 2022 11:33:42
Shappy come on mate both are average. and one is a complete racist

If we do end up with the 2 players above then we have well and truly fell off. what are we actually trying to accomplish buying cheap mediocre players that would get a sniff in any other top 6 side never mind the top 4 or a team wanting to win trophies.

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08 Aug 2022 12:06:56
Arnautovic can stay in Italy. Why we’re targeting him is beyond me. Rabiot I’d take for the reported low fee but only IF he is not the alternative to De Jong.
Adding Rabiot and Tielemens/ Neves would improve our midfield but it’s surely not the route we want to be taking?
As Shappy has said, Ruiz would’ve been a decent alternative but he’s off to PSG. I can see us getting Rabiot and going for SMS late in the window. I’m certainly not against Savic as he’s better than what we have.

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08 Aug 2022 12:33:06
Bolger, This is literally the first line of my post:

"I'm hoping the Rabiot and Arnautovic rumours don't lead anywhere. Both decent players, better than what we have, but neither look good enough for where we want to go and both have had attitude issues in the past".

All I have said is they are better than what we have.

I don't want them, I don't think they are good enough and their attitudes stink.

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08 Aug 2022 12:42:13
A lot of reports now saying that we’ve agreed a deal for Rabiot. Looks like the pursuit of De Jong is finally over.

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08 Aug 2022 13:07:19
I don’t actually think either are better than what we have

Shappy you just said in that last paragraph I don’t think they are good enough but yet you also said they are decent players 🤷‍♂️

Not making a dig shappy but these types of players if we are to actually show some ambition on wanting to win are not the players we go for

No wonder ronaldo wants to leave. 0 ambition the club is a shadow of its former self

Play Iqbal or savage play McNeil or ganarcho use the players within and development them if your not going to spend money on a ready made player now

Stop the short term stop gaps it’s not how you produce a winning team

If rabiot is an alternate to de jong then this is a joke of window tbh.

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08 Aug 2022 13:15:58
Rabiot is 27 and is a very good player. His technique is miles ahead of McFred. He'd be a major upgrade. He's not a backup player at Juve. He's a starter for all his time there. Arnautovic would be signed as a squad player. Not ideal but he did really well with Bologna last year. Don't get the doom and gloom about those two.

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08 Aug 2022 13:32:19
MA is 33 years old and would be just as inept at pressing as Ronaldo. I’d rather we brought through a youngster or signed somebody like Sesko than drop £10m+ on a stop gap player who doesn’t fit the manager’s system. We really should have signed Darwin when we had the chance….

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08 Aug 2022 13:44:04
don we already have an abuser at the club we don't want a racist aswell

if they don't want to pay the money and get a striker to help score goals and you know maybe win something then just promote a player from the youth and work with him

this window has clearly become about the owners not wanting to pay the money for players.

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08 Aug 2022 13:50:20
Rabiot I can just about get my head round. Although he’s moody and far from what we need. Arnautovic I’m literally dumbfounded. I reckon he must think all his Christmases have come at once. He’s nothing special and won’t be the kind of player to dig out blind for you, he’s also got dubious morals and he isn’t what we need at Old Trafford. I actually can’t believe we’re in for a player like him…………. panic and desperation spring to mind. We haven’t learnt a thing over the last 10 years. And I don’t care if ETH wants him or not. I’ve got eyes as have other fans, and he isn’t what we need.

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08 Aug 2022 16:15:39
Sorry but perhaps i am missing something. Which players have the owners not paid up for or not willing to. hasn't the fee been agreed with Barcelona for quite some time now and that too in excess of 80M? So where is the issue with the owners here. Its literally EtH running the show here. All 3 signed have been his targets and all targetted are again his. don't get the hatred with the owners here.

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08 Aug 2022 18:06:19
United it would quite glazer esk to bid
For a player who doesn’t want to join for them to then be able to turn around and say we tried getting de jong but instead we paid 15 million for rabiot.

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08 Aug 2022 18:12:23
Bolger2 I wasn't aware of the racist allegations re Arnautovic. If true obviously we should steer clear.

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08 Aug 2022 18:44:53
Dembele is terrible.

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08 Aug 2022 19:38:15
Bolger2……exactly what I was thinking. Stick decent bids in for FDJ knowing full well he wants to stay where he is. Also stick a bid in for Anthony knowing full well it’s 20 million below their valuation. Gives the impression everything is hunky dory to shareholders. The club is skint in my view. The fees for Martinez and Malacia were offset by sales (albeit minimally) and would have been lumped on the debt anyway. No sign of the Glazers investing any of their own cash that’s for sure. And for the record, signing Arnautovic is a complete joke.

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08 Aug 2022 20:11:23
RedWhiskey, he's decent without being outstanding. Even at that level he's better than Arnautovic as a footballer and almost certainly a better person.

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08 Aug 2022 20:11:45
Rabiot is not good enough. Is decent but no more. Its no coincidence he can't settle and retain a first team place at the bigger clubs. As a squad member he is OK (and yes he is better than McFred) but he is not the calibre of player we should be looking to rebuild a teams midfield around.

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08 Aug 2022 21:47:32
Good news, the Bologna president says Arnautovic is not for sale at any price. Let's hope he is a man of his word.

Another shambles of a transfer window for United, strangely reassuring.

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09 Aug 2022 00:01:24
You can literally view the accounts if you want to, the club is not ‘skint’ and you’re embarrassing posting stuff like that.

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08 Aug 2022 09:24:29
Rabiot and arnautovic. wow. I honestly don't know what to say, we are just repeating the same old mistakes. Poor planning, poor execution followed by blind panic in the transfer window. Honestly I'd rather give savage, Iqbal and Garnacho the game time.

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08 Aug 2022 09:42:11
The sentiment of bringing on the kids is good in theory and in preseason. But within 30 seconds of Malacia coming on yesterday he'd been skinned by Lamptey, hacked him down, and was inexplicably left marking Dunk which was like Bilbo Baggins marking the Rock. I think we've got some great kids in there but the Prem is not a place to rely on them.

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08 Aug 2022 10:25:56
I get u but I’d rather that than those players linked above. We got rid of players in the summer who had mouthy agents, were on big wages and had questionable attitudes and now we are looking to bring in players with those same flaws. It makes zero sense other than they are cheap.

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08 Aug 2022 11:33:13
I think the dreaded term 'transitional period' is what we should maybe be looking at. Arguably we've been in one since SFA stood down with each new manager bringing in a combination of youth with their own new signings including older/ more experienced players, which has admittedly led to the mix n/ match assortment of oddballs we have (different point altogether) .
But the ten Hag was meant to he the new approach. No transitional players, only the 'right' young, hungry players in the right positions.
However this has already been broken - Eriksen is surely going against the grain and has just been poached as he was free. Not arguing with his signing, in fact it backs up the notion that we should probably be eyeing up players of a similar demographic.
I'm not saying Rabiot or Arnautovic are the answer, but in the absence of de Jong, Nunez et al being achievable, there still has to be some older more experienced heads who can come in and steady the ship which is the requirement at present. Liverpool and City didn't go for the big guns right away - there was first a period of getting by with the likes of Grujic and the Ox, and Bravo, de Jong (Nigel) while the other 'plan' was taking shape in the background. Stopping the rot before world domination.

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08 Aug 2022 11:45:54
Rather Sh1t in my hands and clap than sign either of them.

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08 Aug 2022 12:30:36
The smile on Malacia's face when he found himself marking Dunk, was priceless 😁.

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08 Aug 2022 12:34:07
#Spenno
I agree that things wouldn't look much better with kids, but if we get Arnautovic and Rabiot, we will be trying to get rid of them after one season. As we always do, we give high salaries to players who r not good enough, and then they don't want to leave. We ain't getting that top4 either way, I would rather see kids play and they maybe become much better for the next season. With players like Arnautovic and Rabiot, u know what to expect, u know their limits. Kids might improve, these guys will stay average.

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08 Aug 2022 16:35:47
I think we can get a bit carried away with this obsessive notion that 'playing the kids' would bear fruit. I don't doubt they need to play (as sub roles) in order to improve, but which sides at this level consistently play/ start with a handful of youngsters (ie teenagers) .

The occasional beast comes though but they are few and far between and I don't think we currently have any at this club that should be a starter.

They're not built for this level.

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08 Aug 2022 21:26:30
Remember when Evra and Vidic first turned up, they were shocking for the first six months, then they settled and understood the requirements of the Premier league.

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08 Aug 2022 09:19:56
David Ornstein reporting we're working on Rabiot. Thoughts? Seems to me the FDJ ship is sailing and we're having to resort to a secondary target again.

08 Aug 2022 09:47:09
Terrible attitude, wouldn't go near him. Juventus wants to get rid of him, I don't see why we would want him.

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08 Aug 2022 10:24:20
Secondary target? No this is blind panic buying, again.

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08 Aug 2022 10:57:28
Read that as Blind and Pjanic then lol.

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08 Aug 2022 12:10:07
I'd take those two over the ones mentioned.

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08 Aug 2022 12:31:25
Is Rabiot the one with the mad mum?

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08 Aug 2022 13:52:54
If Juventus are getting rid then that says it all.

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08 Aug 2022 14:17:41
Rabiot is the one with his mother as his agent, and yes she is away with the fairies.

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08 Aug 2022 21:50:31
Maybe his mum could be our DoF, only needs a spare 5 min a week.

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08 Aug 2022 21:57:48
Strange player 3/ 4 years ago you thought he is a star in the making but has just fizzled out. Psg is a bit of clown show tbh so going there was probably the worst thing for his career. Surprised it has not worked out for him at juve.

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08 Aug 2022 08:51:49
Rashford, martial, Shaw, mctominay, maguire and possibly fernandes and de gea will be surplus to requirements come end of season if eth is given the chance. these players have no ability to work in a system and think they are protected by the board as proved with past managers.
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08 Aug 2022 09:35:57
De Gea for all his problems, does have games where he makes saves no one else would. I would still keep him. Mind you any keeper good enough doesn't mean he would settle at United. So many keepers have come and failed here under the pressure and yet gone on to have decent careers. I would be letting go of De Gea for 2-3 years.

Martial unlike McTom, Rash, Maguire etc does have all the ingredients to be a decent player, it's the work rate and attitude that's missing. There have been numerous times when he's been treated a bit unfairly too imo, and gets twice as much stick even if he performs to similar level to Rashford.
He lost his shirt to Zlatan, he lost his place to Alexis Sanchez that terrible signing, a few bad injuries and Ole also shinning him the moment the goals dried up. There's a player in Martial but like the Pogba situation who knows when that will come out.

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07 Aug 2022 13:39:00
Ed - I noticed on the Chelsea page that you mentioned Ziyech is now less likely to leave the club. Does this have anything to do with United now having a preferred (and perhaps even more likely) option for that position?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

07 Aug 2022 14:59:29
Ziyech has probably watched the first half and though f%£# that!

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07 Aug 2022 12:03:37
Any truth in the rumour we’ve bid somewhere in the region of €8/ 9 million for Marko Arnautovic?

Struggling with this one of true, both in terms of quality and attitude. Again at the price would reinforce my theory we aren’t exactly flush.

{Ed002's Note - I would need to check.}

07 Aug 2022 12:15:36
Seem to remember him being a prima dona at West Ham and Hammers fans hated him.

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07 Aug 2022 12:24:01
He has just one goal less than Osimhem.

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07 Aug 2022 12:58:09
Old, difficult, banned for racism.

No thanks.

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07 Aug 2022 16:54:50
Ok. If all are crying NO. It means United would certainly after it. and make a face like they have got a world beater.

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07 Aug 2022 21:35:55
Reports that a bid has been rejected for him. Hope that ends our interest because he is an awful signing and reinforces the view that we are going in circles.

Stick one of the academy players on the bench rather than a hasbeen with questionable views.

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07 Aug 2022 22:38:36
The more I think about it the worse it gets.

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07 Aug 2022 11:38:55
Any eds know of genuine interest for Leroy sarnie.

{Ed002's Note - One club enquired after him with Bayern and were told Sane was not for sale. I am pretty sure that there have been no offers and he will stay where he is. I doubt he would be interested in dropping..}down out of the Champions League in any case,

07 Aug 2022 12:03:12
Is he related to the Earl of Sandwich?

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{Ed014's Note - 🤦‍♂️🤣

07 Aug 2022 12:14:25
Shaw would be delighted, he loves a sarnie.

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07 Aug 2022 12:59:03
Unless it’s an Elvis special fools gold, Shaw won’t touch a sarnie.

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06 Aug 2022 11:19:58
Ed, do we have any interest in Gakpo?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

06 Aug 2022 13:39:52
Don’t really understand the Gakpo story from this morning. He’s a left winger - Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho, Eriksen, Elanga, Martial, Bruno, Shoretire can all play there.

Lazy ‘he is Dutch so we will link him to United for clicks’ journalism, to me.

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06 Aug 2022 12:01:04
Thanks Ed. Who are the alternatives to Antony?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any new targets beyond those I have mentioned.}

06 Aug 2022 17:12:49
The mere mention of Gapko sends the same shivers of fear running down my spine I got when we signed Depay and after two weeks you could tell he was wildly out of his depth.

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06 Aug 2022 17:26:11
Sane?

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06 Aug 2022 17:53:48
Sane would be just about the best left footed right winger we could get and would be an incredible signing - not sure the guy with the etihad tattooed on his back would be interested in the move though!

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06 Aug 2022 19:15:16
Downsie I always thought he played on the left for city he was top before his injury

At the time he was at city he could ghost past players with ease not seen much of him since but the city sane i would take today.

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