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07 Apr 2020 08:43:49
Dear Ed02,

Can you tell us who united are currently or were looking to sign for the right wing position before the lockdown?

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{Ed002's Note - Jadon Sancho (RW) The total cost of the full package (transfer fee, agent fee, signing on fee and FA payment) is simply outrageous - otherwise he would be moving to Chelsea. Some interested sides will be shocked in to stepping back because of the costs - so Inter can be removed as they are looking to take another youngster from England; Juventus have other players they will look to first; Manchester City see him as over priced. Manchester United are very keen but the budget may not stretch and they have been looking at other options for the summer but they could return with an offer, which they have not done yet. Jadon Sancho is down the list and too expensive for Barcelona - he would want assurances of game time and he not first choice for them as they have a priority signing who will soak up a lot of the funds. Real Madrid have a different primary target who will cost a world record fee which will kill any chance of a move if it happens. PSG are not looking at Sancho and expect a similar, although older, player to be offered to them in part exchange in the summer. If Liverpool are looking to replace Salah I think there are cheaper options who would suit their needs available. So potentially an option for all of these sides but the total cost would need to change considerably for something to happen. The player will not move without Champions League.
Ferran Torres (RW/LW) considered as a potential Jadon Sancho replacement but likely priced out of a move to Borussia Dortmund who have a host of other options that are being considered by them - although they remain very keen. Will end up at Real Madrid or Barcelona in all probability at some point - but if Salah were to depart Liverpool he could well become an option for them but for now that is not the case. The player has made no secret of his desire to join Barcelona at some point. Valencia have a replacement lined up but the €100M asking price for Ferran Torres would need to drop to make a transfer anywhere viable this summer. JUventus has enquired after his availability but would need to make sales to fund a move. A third party has suggested to Manchester United that he Ferran Torres would be a better option to Jadon Sancho as the deal would be far, far cheaper for them.
Federico Chiesa (RW/F) much more affordable than Sancho but is already part of discussions to move elsewhere.
Isaac Lihadji (RW) kiddie from Marseille who is attracting interest of several leading sides - will not be interested in joining MU but Arsenal and Spurs have spoken with his agent - much to the annoyance of Marseille. Common sense dictates he should sign a new contract and stay where he is but Lille and Dortmund are prepared to put high value offers on the table.}

07 Apr 2020 10:30:18
Thanks Ed02, very insightful.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.

07 Apr 2020 10:33:18
Although Ed, I was wondering why Chelsea are interested in Sancho. They already have pulisic, Ziyech, hudson odoi and possibly mason mount for the wing/ inside forward positions.

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{Ed002's Note - Mason Mount does not play on the wing.}

07 Apr 2020 20:29:19
Thanks for all the brilliant information Ed002, very much appreciated!

The figures bandied about regarding transfer fee for Sancho by various tabloids does indeed seem astronomical: £115 million (plus, as you suggest, all extra costs) Do you think that the current pandemic and the consequent impact on club finances is having/ will have a significant impact on transfer fees in the next window?

Thus do you think the huge sums of money mentioned for Sancho, Mbappe, Neymar etc will actually be achieved or will buying clubs look for much lesser fees/ Selling clubs have to accept less money?

thanks again for any information you can divulge.

Wallace.

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{Ed002's Note - That is not the price of getting him before kicking a ball - it is a great deal more. Something in the order of €210M.}

07 Apr 2020 20:53:51
Thanks fir the really quick reply Ed002! Wow!

That really is so much money to pay out, especially when United need other players as well.

Do you think United would really pay the full price for him or do you think they’ll try to negotiate a much lower fee?

Thanks again for all info. (Just to push my luck, would we still be interested in Grealish if we spent so much money on Sancho? )

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{Ed002's Note - The problem is not the €140M wanted by Dortmund, although Chelsea would like that reduced, it is the other costs that are a major issue.}

07 Apr 2020 21:10:14
Thanks for insights into the transfer package - so much we don’t know about.

From tbe fees you must at the beginning of tbe thread, guessing many of these are non- negotiable, so hard to see how United could bring the fee down apart from bargaining with Dortmund over the huge £140m fee.

Thanks again for your time and hope you and your family are staying well in these strange and worrying times.

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{Ed002's Note - Prices are in euro not GBP - the big issue is the requested €50M agent fee.}

07 Apr 2020 21:10:14
Thanks for insights into the transfer package - so much we don’t know about.

From tbe fees you must at the beginning of tbe thread, guessing many of these are non- negotiable, so hard to see how United could bring the fee down apart from bargaining with Dortmund over the huge £140m fee.

Thanks again for your time and hope you and your family are staying well in these strange and worrying times.

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{Ed002's Note - The figures are in euor not GBP. The major cost is a €50M request for an agent fee.}

07 Apr 2020 23:49:32
For 210 millions i would prefer Feran or Chiesa. Feran seems unlikely and Chiesa is heading elsewhere so i would even prefer none. Ed002 hope you are well, which agent Jadon Sancho have?

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{Ed002's Note - I am OK right now thanks, but I suspect matters will get much worse in England before it gets better. I doubt you would know him but his agent is Obadiah.}

08 Apr 2020 00:48:24
Thanks for the quick replay Ed002. Hope you stay well mate.

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{Ed002's Note - And you.}

08 Apr 2020 12:12:27
Sancho seems like the clear first choice, and its obvious why. He has a higher ceiling than most other possible targets, while also being English would provide a top level homegrown player.

For United the idea of having an English front three of Sancho, Greenwood and Rashford will be very appealing. While Chelsea might be looking at a similar thing with Sancho, Abraham and Hudson-Odoi.

That said unless the overall cost of the transfer can come down it might be a hard one to get over the line.

That said there are still other options out there, Chiesa, Ferran, Ousemane Dembele, Bernardeschi, Cengiz Under, Zaha, David Brooks, David Neres, Leon Bailey, Adama Traore, Richarlison, Berardi, Zaniolo.

It really depends on what kind of wide player you want, do you want a counter attacking knock and run player like Traore, or do you want someone who can come inside and be a playmaker such as David Neres.

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08 Apr 2020 13:54:05
This is where a proper scouting department and manager are imperative. That figure for Sancho is ludicrous. He's a great talent with a wonderful future ahead of him but he's not the only winger out there.

Identify an alternative target (Shappy has easily named alternatives) that will fit in with the ethos of the team Ole is trying to build.

It seems we still havnt learned from our failings in the transfer market over the last few years. Overpaying on fees and our handling of the wage structure needs to be addressed. It would set again a terrible precedent to make a 19 year old one of our highest earners. You open the door to all our young players coming through to ask for similar wages.

Though I'm not that impressed with what ole serves up on the pitch, the work moving players on and recruitment has been refreshing. There is no need to simply go back to chucking mountains of money at our problems again.

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08 Apr 2020 14:52:16
Mumbles, I agree we need to tread carefully with Sancho. We could easily get our fingers burned if we splash out on huge wages for him.

That said, sometimes it is best to spend what is necessary to get your first choice target if they are available. Liverpool waited until both VvD and Alisson were available then spent a huge amount to bring them in. Those two signings lifted the club from top four challengers to title challengers/ winners.

If Sancho is the final piece of the puzzle, then spending big to make sure we get him might make more sense.

However, great scouting might be able to unearth a better fit. Let's see what transpires. It's a long way between now and next season. We have this season to try and finish first, then the whole transfer window (whenever that is) .

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool forced VvDs availability through an illegal approach and him going on strike. Alisson was not first choiuce for them.}

08 Apr 2020 16:26:56
He certainly isn't the final piece of the jigsaw Shappy. We've just about got some edge pieces identified. Liverpool seemed to have a free run at VvD and Alisson is a very good goalkeeper. Liverpool have a manager with a clear plan. They were rocking going forward and would concede silly goals. Shoring up the back was the final piece for them.

We on the other hand have some trouble at the back. But that might be down to lack of cover in midfield, again an area that needs addressing. RW definitely needs improving. Decisions need to be made about a striker too.

We've been poor dealing with clubs. Struggle to get decent money for our players and don't seem to have the basic skills on how to negotiate, Bruno being a prime example.

Chelsea seem to have their head screwed on when it comes to transfer dealings. The likes of Shaw in th past, not paying those wages for a young left back. We on the other hand will pay it no problem, slowly inflating our wage bill so that average footballers are now on wages that make it incredibly difficult to shift. When we do have offers for the likes of Rojo and Smalling, we move the goalposts at the last minute and not eventually selling them.

Chelsea want Sancho but not at that price, they'll walk away. We'll spend the whole summer trying to play 4d chess getting the price down, only to pay the exact price quoted.

We should make it known straight away we're moving on to other targets.

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05 Apr 2020 11:06:44
Just seen this on BBC Football rumours section.

Arsenal could attempt to sign Manchester United England midfielder Jesse Lingard, 27, before next season, especially if the loan move of Spanish midfielder Dani Ceballos, 23, to the Gunners from Real Madrid is not made permanent. (Athletic, subscription required)

Did have a some hope for him about 6 or so years ago but he has never kicked on, and is so easily dispossessed, it seems untrue.

Personally, I can't believe Arsenal would go anywhere near him.

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{Ed004's Note - Yeah I think it's a very unlikely move as well. I do think it might be best for all parties if Lingard gets a fresh start}

05 Apr 2020 11:50:13
To be fair to Lingard he's scored some important goals for Utd and always worked hard on the pitch.

I think he was given a chance by Ole this season to really cement his place in the team and add some consistency, creativity and goals to his game. Unfortunately Lingard isn't quite at the level needed to get us back challenging for the top honours. He's been unable to deliver when given the extra responsibility and expectation.

Now we have Fernandes the pressure has been lifted somewhat. I still think Lingard is a decent player and more than capable of being able to deputise for Fernandes on occasions or make an impact off the bench. Whether he wants this role is debatable but I just don't see him moving to another big Club or anyone being prepared to match his wages. I think Lingard should get his head down, work hard and try to make the most of his opportunities when they arise. Football is a squad game and he'll still get plenty of opportunities. You have to fight for your place at any top Club and I'm sure even Lingard would admit he's been woefully short of form for the last 12 months.

If he wants to move and we can get a decent fee then fine but we need squad depth and players like Lingard and Pereria whilst not perhaps being good enough to start every game still have an important role to play at the Club. If they leave they'll have to be replaced and both play in areas where we're not exactly blessed with other options.

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05 Apr 2020 14:23:33
He's a poor footballer DLIB. If he wasn't born under the shadow of Old Trafford he'd have been let go years ago. Just look at the difference a classy AM makes. There's a different aura around the team with Bruno is it. Lingard and Pereira were gifted golden opportunities to make a stake in the team and they've both been shown up.

Lingard should have been a senior member of the club reaching his peak now. But instead he'd rather act the clown and open a fashion label. There is nothing I like about the man or footballer. If we have aspirations of moving up in the world of football, players like Jlingz should be there first to go.

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05 Apr 2020 14:56:33
Fair enough Mumbles I respect your opinion and I must confess it's hard to defend him.

We've definitely struggled at times this season when having to rely on the likes of Lingard and Pereira and the signing of Fernandes has only illustrated what we've been missing.

I agree if we have title aspirations we need better and neither should be regular starters but maybe without the weight of pressure and expectation they can provide cover for the odd injury or perhaps this is just wishful thinking.

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05 Apr 2020 15:48:19
DLIB, sorry but I think that is wishful thinking.

We need so much better than Lingard on the bench, never mind on the pitch, as Mumbles said Lingard really should be reaching his peak and to me he is nowhere near what is required for a team wanting to challenge for major honers.

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06 Apr 2020 07:56:26
I’d keep Lingard. He’s a decent squad player, and we’ve had a think said for too long, and he can still make w contribution.

Andreas in the other hand has never shown why he’s there.

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06 Apr 2020 12:01:59
I don't think Lingard has a long term future at the club. However, if we sold every player most of us don't think is good enough we would be going into next season with about 9 players in the first team, three of which would be goalkeepers.

Ultimately we need to decided which players we can afford to let leave, and which we might need to keep for another year.

Lingard is a useful player in certain situations. He isn't first choice, but if Bruno is out injured or suspended who would you pick, Lingard, Andreas Pereira or Mata?

Lingard might be the best of a bad bunch (Mata is a great little player, but doesn't have the legs to play the way we set up) .

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06 Apr 2020 12:34:51
Shappy it's best for everyone involved if he leaves the club. We could easily replace his stats of 1 goal and 1 assist in 2 years of football. His only saving grace is "He runs around a lot". And for me that's the bare minimum a footballer should do.

He hasn't kicked on at all. His off the field childish antics and his excuses for his terrible performances are not what we need. Him choosing Mino as an agent when the club are looking to not deal with him are another in a list of digs at the club.


You could probably easily rattle off 10 players who could come in and replace him in the squad easily.

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06 Apr 2020 12:41:22
Shappy, I'd pick Mata every time and I really cannot think of any situation where Lingard would be a useful player, I really can't. He runs in to blind alleys most of the time, where he cannot receive a ball, he creates zero and also scores zero for that matter and his hold up play is next to non-existent. He is a poor poor player for the age he is.

Pereira does have age on his side, only just but again I do not think he will make the step up but I hope I'm wrong.

I think both will stay, running down their contracts, with limited opportunities, as I cannot see any prem team wanting them and any other team affording what they get at Utd.

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06 Apr 2020 20:21:18
I think Lingard probably will leave, he has hired an agent renowned for moving players around. I also think at his age he will want to be somewhere where he is first choice and playing most weeks. Which is fair enough, the career of a professional footballer is a short one and if it was me I wouldn't want to spend time on the bench of any club I would want to be out on the pitch playing. I could spend the next 40 years after I retire sitting on the sidelines after all.

That said most people feel the club need to sign a ST, RW, CDM, CB and AM in the summer, the reality is we might sign 3 maybe 4.

So we haven't really got the budget to be replacing squad players this summer. So although Lingard will likely leave, we might have to settle on an aging Mata or Andreas Pereira next season when Bruno is unavailable.

In an ideal world Gomes would have kicked on similarly to Williams and Greenwood this year and signed a new contract then he could have stepped up to replace Lingard. But at the moment he doesn't quite look ready and as yet hasn't signed a new deal.

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07 Apr 2020 06:59:54
I have said before, don’t ignore this lad Mejbri, he looked to have serious talent. If anyone can step in rather than the useless Perreira or ageing Mata it is an exciting youth. Up to Mejbri But if he keeps developing he is the type that may well earn a place. As with all youth you have to see, but look beyond Perreira and Mata.

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07 Apr 2020 10:44:52
Mejbri looks a fantastic talent, he certainly looks like he could suddenly step up out of nowhere similar to Rashford or Williams.

I just wonder if it might be a season too soon for him. He has only been in the academy for 6 months. Certainly one to keep an eye on.

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01 Apr 2020 15:05:14
Hi Ed002,

Hope you’re staying well and using your Gentleman Adventurer skulls to keep yourself busy during lockdown.

A few days ago, you kindly replied to my post about Juventus offering players in any Pogba deal. Media outlets of various repute are speculating that De Light might be used in a deal to take Pogba to Juventus. Would Juventus be prepared to include MDlL in any deal and would he actually want to leave and come to United?

Thanks again

Wallace.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any offer of MdL to Manchester United by Juventus. He has had a difficult start but has been growing in to his role at Juventus and I am not sure that he would be open to what would be a significant step down for him.}

01 Apr 2020 15:23:26
Wow, that was such a quick reply, thank you!

Bitter pill to swallow about being a step down at the moment but hopefully won’t take us long to remedy that.

Thanks for all info, gratefully received!

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

01 Apr 2020 16:30:16
Its not really a step down though is it Manchester united will always be a bigger team than Juventus. Sure they're winning the league every year but haven't done it in europe for a number of years. I'm sure with the team we seem to be building United will be back in the champions league and competing for the top honours.

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01 Apr 2020 18:51:11
In footballing terms man utd is a step down. they are not close to competing with solskjaer and won't for years to come under current leadership. Juventus took over Utd a while ago, and they are 1 of the few legendary european sides with utd so even if utd were at the top it would always be a sideways move rather than up to utd.

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01 Apr 2020 22:02:54
How young are you?

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02 Apr 2020 05:08:28
How does being young or old have anything to do with this?

De Ligt plays for a team that is challenging for titles in italy and europe, even if you are optimistic utd are atleast 2-3 years away from challenging for epl and then will need further investment to challenge for CL alongside the league.

For any player going from city, Juventus, Barcelona, madrid and psg to utd will be a step down. That's the reality of things, accept it don't be like liverpool fans going on and on about historical greatness of the club, that means zilch to a player, he isn't going to be playing for fergie's utd.

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02 Apr 2020 22:50:05
Nelly when asking somebody something it would be best to add their name.

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03 Apr 2020 14:52:37
I was referring to you danjames as I'm at an age where it doesn't matter what we do on the football pitch. It's the club and what it represents to me and that means no club is bigger or better than Manchester United. Also I'm of the opinion we've turned a corner and are now heading in the right direction.

Ole may or may not be the manager to get us actually winning things but as a club I believe we'll be in a better place than with previous managers with a younger and more vibrant team. With our recent signings including ighalo and most notably bruno our play has also improved. Other signings will only improve us further.

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03 Apr 2020 21:55:44
For me Juve have only been bigger than Utd in the mid 80’s. At this moment only just. Yes they’re romping there league every year but come on it’s a Mickey Mouse league. With one of our worst sides in the last 30 years we turned them over at their place.

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05 Apr 2020 10:00:35
At the moment the Ed is correct. Between Busby and SAF United fans kept saying we were relevant, a big club, when we were historically big but inconsequential where it mattered. Liverpool were the same for nearly 30 years. Now we are kidding ourselves again. We are irrelevant where it matters in the league and in Europe. We have a manager that has no one convinced, doesn’t have the know how to challenge or make the club relevant. We wallow in sentiment, dewy eyed about history but not able to look at reality of our situation. We have an amateur set up with the focus on finance not football. We have huge debts and will no doubt see a huge loss of income to service them. At the moment we are not at Juventus‘s level. If the league doesn’t finish and unless there is a major change I can’t see it, there will be a large financial hole and trap awaiting us. Maybe the huge debt we have just became an even bigger problem that might wake some up.

We think because of history that we are as big or bigger than Juventus, folly and emotional tosh. A giant club would not have been so amateur over the last 7 years, it wouldn’t have been so sentimental in its decision making. If we are struggling to attract a Birmingham youth to play for our club and OGS, what gives anyone the idea that MDL, who isn’t involved in the sentimental claptrap, will want to take a step down because that is what it would be until we wake up.

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05 Apr 2020 21:55:48
In the years we have been apparently irrelevant we have won a league cup, f.a. cup and europa league while playing absolute tosh with past it managers. We now have a manager who has Manchester united's best interest at heart and though he may win nothing we were more or less in the quarter finals of the europa league same with the f.a cup.

Ok we may have not won those competitions but progress on the team and playing style is there for all to see. Rome wasn't built in a day. Lampard or arteta are not having the same being said about their lack of experience at the top level.

Pep guardiola has lost about 7 games in the league and lauded as the best their is solskjaer has beaten him 3 times this season. Imagine him with the team he wants in his head with the same drive. green shoots are there for all to see. I'm beginning to believe as I was solskjaer out. Now I'm patient.

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30 Mar 2020 11:14:03
Sancho rumours gathering pace - any insight Eds on an agreement?

Many thanks.

Ps wanted to get back to football gossip rather than focus in pandemic all the time.

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{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement at this time.}

30 Mar 2020 11:30:36
Rumours of him looking at the wage around 400k. that's too much for my liking considering he will cost a lot on transfer fees.

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30 Mar 2020 13:56:47
I read that he has the potential to earn 400k per week including bonuses; not sure what his basic would be.

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03 Apr 2020 00:13:01
I feel the massive chunk of cash to lure Sancho would be better utilised elsewhere. For me the spine isn’t quite right, whether a CB to partner Maguire or CF. But if Pogba goes, there is one almighty hole in the middle. The heart of the team. That for me is the major consideration for OGS in the next window. If Saul is available I would love to see it. He is a leader and all-round midfielder and his name seems to come up often. Not sure why a player would want to leave that Athletico team as they have a terrific chemistry but it always comes down to money.
Ed, is Saul a realistic CM option for Utd?

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04 Apr 2020 04:57:57
We'll really miss Pogba after the stella year he's had.

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28 Mar 2020 10:14:19
Eds.
Any of you lovely lot know anything official regarding the future of Pogba?
Also, will the summer window even happen with the current state of affairs?
Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed with Pogba - Mino wants Real Madrid to take him ideally but they are a little sick of trying to deal with the amateurs in Manchester and need to decide on priorities - but in any deal MU would have to accept a player as part of the transaction. It is the same with Juventus - they would be looking to include a player in any deal. The situation remains fluid timing wise at the moment}

28 Mar 2020 13:17:54
Ed 002. Based on the response given are Man United interested in any players from Real Madrid which will make the possibility of the deal easier or is it a case of Real Madrid offering players they want rid of and which Man United have no interest in at all.

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United have not shown any interest in any Real Madrid players since they flirted with the likes of Ivan Rakitic, Kroos and Bale.}

29 Mar 2020 07:30:11
Ed002 you say real madrid are sick of dealing with amateurs and yet seem to be offering players we no longer have an interest in. Is it not possible that United are also sick of madrid flirting with one of our players offering a pittance of his worth with deadwood players of their own. With Ole now manager our whole tact on signings have changed with what looks to be a young and vibrant side being built so why would we want players madrid now deem not good enough.

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{Ed002's Note - They have offered nobody so far.OGS does not define the transfer policy.}

29 Mar 2020 15:54:53
Ok so with ole out of the transfer strategy as a club we‘ve had no interest in Kroos, Rakitic or bale since previous managers/ transfer strategy. But as you say we would have to accept a player in exchange as part of the deal. My question is what players are Madrid willing to offer other than those mentioned that United may have an interest in? .
If same players are mentioned shouldn’t we consider Madrid as amateurs as we do not want said players now and Madrid know this hence the reluctance to deal.

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{Ed002's Note - I am sorry, they have lots of players available, but sugegsting Madrid are amateurs is embarrassing and stupid. You should look for somewhere else to share you DF ideas.}

29 Mar 2020 22:32:57
Hi Ed002,

Thank you as always for the insights you are able to provide.

Further to the thread about any deal involving Pogba would require United to accept a player as part of the exchange: if Juventus are interested in taking Pogba, would United be interested in taking any of their players in return - any names in particular? I've read rumours from click-bait sources of Dybala and Pjanic being offered to United as part of any Pogba deal, but your insights and knowledge are the only sources I would trust.

Many thanks for any info you have time to provide.

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{Ed002's Note - They have many players available. Panic and Costa have been of interest to Manchester United in the past.}

30 Mar 2020 11:50:08
In fairness, panic is one thing we have'nt been short of in recent years.

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30 Mar 2020 13:57:42
Thanks Ed002, hope you’re staying well.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

25 Mar 2020 11:41:28
The world is a dark and uncertain place currently. So, let's discuss something a little lighter.

Odion Ighalo has been a breath of fresh air, he offers us something different and according to several sources been a positive influence on the dressing room.

So do we sign him permanently for the reported 15m deal that we have lined up? Or do we look to sign someone else?

The positives of signing Ighalo are that he is already settled, wouldn't take a significant amount of time to negotiate a deal, would be relatively cheap, wouldn't block Greenwood long term.

The negatives are that he hasn't yet proven himself for more than a few games, his age means we are only likely to get 2-3 years service from him. Then for some people he will lack the superstar pulling power, while some might prefer we sign someone to oust Martial and be genuinely first choice which Ighalo isn't likely to do.

For me it really comes down to what we do with Martial? As the question of whether Martial is going to be first choice or not will ultimately dictate whether we sign a genuine world class striker to replace him, or a top quality back up striker.

This season Martial has scored well when fit, but without fully convincing. He never leaves you with a feeling he gave his all and did everything possible to win the game. Which is fine when we win 2 or 3 nil, but in those games we lose or draw people will always question whether we might have got a different result if we had a striker who worked harder or made more gambles with making runs.

However, his recent performances have shown more application, and maybe with more reliable passes coming from midfield (Bruno) maybe Martial will make more of those runs and score more goals.

Personally I think Martial has shown just (literally by the skin of his teeth) ability and application to be given the chance to lead the line next season with more creative players behind him. Martial along with Greenwood who with a full season under his belt (one where he has scored 12 goals in 15 starts) offer pace and very lethal finishing. Maybe adding someone with experience like Ighalo could offer us a back to goal work horse striker who could help round off the younger two strikers games.

Add to this that very few top level strikers are available, and those that are cost a lot and are difficult deals to get over the line. Kane for example would be 120-150m at least, Martinez has only had one good season and looks set to sign for Barcelona. Aubamanyang is a possibility but we have got our finger burned signing 29 year old forwards from Arsenal in recent years. He is only a year younger than Ighalo but would be 4 or 5 times the cost in both fees and wages.

Then consider that this summer with the current world situation means deals will be extra difficult to complete. There is concern from clubs that throwing large sums of money around when many people will have lost their jobs and be under extreme financial difficulty might seem crass or provide backlash on those clubs. Also how much money clubs have to spend might be reduced if the season isn't completed with a reduction in TV money. While movement of people will be difficult, there might still be restrictions on international movement. Thirdly, most clubs work on a sell a player and bring in a replacement, this might take longer to sort out with clubs maybe being more restricted about where they can bring players in from and finding a suitable replacement will likely take longer. Finally with domestic seasons possibly being extended there is a issue with many contracts ending in June which will need sorting before incoming transfers.

Personally I think we would be best placed to bring in players from within UK boarders where possible to avoid restrictions or clashing with leagues being extended outside of the UK that could be on going. Therefore signing someone like Ighalo might make sense for many reasons.

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25 Mar 2020 11:55:27
Ighalo should stay atleast for 1year as along as he accepts bench role.

Unless Martial is sold which is unlikely i don't see any of the strikers linked with utd accepting to sit on the bench.

Martial has improved recently along with the whole team and still there is Greenwood.

Martial, Greenwood and Ighalo are good options with different applications.


The club needs to focus on the Rw, DM, and AM positions especially if Pogba leaves.

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25 Mar 2020 14:47:43
Sign ighalo and spend wheres its needed the most - cdm, right wing, cam and a rapid cb.

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25 Mar 2020 19:36:53
Keep him. Rashford will be back next season too and if we get Sancho I think we will have a very creative front line.

Sancho would be my priority signing.

Then a DM - Zakaria, Soumare, Neves.

That would be my first 3 signings. Then we would need to look at a new CM if Pogba were to leave and a new CB if we were able to sell Jones and Smalling.

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25 Mar 2020 22:36:35
Shappy - I think the re-building of this Utd team is almost complete. I've always maintained we were only 2-3 players away from having a very good team. That being said wether it'll will be good enough to challenge the likes of Liverpool and City remains to be seen.

Fernandes has now given us a creativity and goal threat from midfield we've been sorely lacking and just emphasises how the right player can re-galvanise a team and improve those around them. Fred and Mctominay look capable of forming a solid partnership providing industry and discipline in midfield.

Maguire has stiffened the defence, AWB is defensively one of the best full backs in the league and Shaw finally looks capable of fulfilling his potential. I think we probably need a bit more pace and physicality alongside Maguire however Bailly has looked promising since his return and I still have very high hopes for Tuanzebe.

Rashford and Martial have both shown glimpses of real quality and added a touch more consistency to their game. Ultimately their upper ceiling may just dictate how successful this Utd team will become.

In my opinion a RW should be our next priority signing. We need to bring balance to our attack and we need a consistent presence and threat from the right side. Sancho would appear to be our main target and a front four of Rashford, Fernandes, Sancho and Martial looks a mouthwatering prospect. I know Martial
divides opinion but I think he will be given another season to prove himself.

What we perhaps lack most is strength in depth and maybe it's this that needs to be addressed over the summer. Having said that many of our promising youngsters will be another year older and more experienced.

The world has been turned upside down by recent events and we just don't know what the landscape will look like when football returns.

In answer to your question I think the Club will probably sign Ighalo on a permanent deal. He's settled in quickly and made an immediate impact. He's appears content with a squad role but will fight for his place and has proven he is capable of making an impact when required. He certainly adds depth to our attacking options and gives us something others don't.

Could we see one superstar leave and another arrive in the coming months.

A first 11 of De Gea, AWB, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, Mctominay, Rashford, Fernandes, Sancho and Martial isn't too shabby.

I wish everyone the very best in these most unnerving and surreal times. Stay safe guys and look after each other.

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26 Mar 2020 11:09:17
I would keep Martial but I wouldn’t rush to offer Ighalo a new contract. He has done really well but it was and should remain a short term fix. The focus should be on bringing someone in who we can rely on for 2 or 3 seasons.

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26 Mar 2020 11:15:00
Apparently Ighalo has been offered two years contract worth 400k by his club.

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26 Mar 2020 13:06:26
I read that it’s a 4 year deal and think he’d be mad not to take it.

I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen of him since he came to the club and would be happy if he stayed with us next season, but let’s be honest, once Rashford is fit again it’s likely that he’ll be a bit part player for us.

When it comes to players over 30, we seem very reluctant to offer more than 2 year contracts.

If it comes down to choosing between being a superstar in China and earning more than £80m over the next 4 seasons or earning just over £12m while barely playing for us over the next two seasons, I think he’d be a fool not to take it.

I understand that it was always his dream to play for us and respect that he took a cut in wages to make that happen, but the money being offered by SS could keep his extended family in riches for the next few centuries.

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26 Mar 2020 15:58:38
I think we should keep Ighalo unless Harry Kane is a serious possibility. We need strength in depth and Ighalo offers something different. Rotation without weakening the team was one of Fergie's main strengths.

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26 Mar 2020 17:07:48
If Ighalo is happy to stay for a year or two i think we should make his loan permanent. Sign Sancho for RW, Van de Beek or Niguez to replace Pogba and Koulibaly to replace Jones and Smalling. A luxury would be that Bellingham kid everyone raves about to replace lingard / perriera.
A dream match day 18 for next season would be:
DDG, AWB, mcguire, Koulibaly, Shaw (or) Williams, McTom, Niguez, Bruno, Sancho, Martial, Rashford. Subs; Ighalo, Greenwood, Fred, Matic, Dalot/ williams, Lindelof, Romero.
Rotate James, Williams, Tuanzebe, garner, Bellingham, Mata, bailly as required.

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27 Mar 2020 19:10:12
Sancho will be essential as that would be the first out and out winger the club has had in nearly a decade.

CDM to come in, Zakaria seems to be the name touted.

Ighalo was signed as a short term fix and that's how it should stay. Mertens available on a free and would provide great support to the front three.

If they could add a centre back such as Upamecano who is young strong and quick, I think you would have a top 3 side there. I feel like we might have to wait another year yet to get a complete side. But the below could be a target:

Henderson - De Gea
Shaw - William's
Maguire - Lindelof
Upamecano - bailly
Bissaka - dalot
Zakaria - Matic
Bruno - Fred
Pogba - Mctominay
Martial - James
Sancho - Greenwood
Rashford - (Mertens? )

That's easily a top 4 side with a chance to work through the champions league.

Leaves Jones, Rojo, Smalling, Pereira and Lingard to find a new club though. Fifa transfer market but a boy can dream.

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22 Mar 2020 09:00:55
Can I ask Ed002, most talk is about getting the season done by June 30th and 1st June start date being mooted in various quarters, what will happen to FA Cup, EL and CL games that are left, will they be allowed to complete aswell as the league season, surely would be unfair to just compete league games. United for example have 17 or 18 games left potentially if we go all the way in the 2 cup comps we are in?

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{Ed002's Note - The Premier League and FA Cup are planned to be completed if and when the remainder of the season can get underway. If the season does not get underway, the FA Cup will be scratched.

The CL and EL are a very different issue. UEFA are obviously keen to hold them and have a plan to play the EL semi-finals and final over a single weekend or a couple of days in Gdansk and the CL semi-finals and final on a similar basis in Istanbul. In all probability they will need to draw a line across and scratch the competitions for this season - but right now they are not doing that. I can't see them going ahead.}

22 Mar 2020 13:15:18
Thank you Ed, very informative. So there is a scenario where the premier league carries on and Europe does not or do you see all competitions domestic and otherwise scratched?

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{Ed002's Note - I really can't say with any confidence but doubt that the PL will be in a position to carry on in the near term, and I suspect the same will be true for most of Europe.}

22 Mar 2020 13:52:49
Thank you Ed.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

21 Mar 2020 22:26:27
Rumours of Auba to Utd. No idea if this is now just crazy time due to lack of content. But I have to say, that would be an excellent signing for us. Last year with Arsenal, so they may be tempted to cash in. Almost has the feels of an RVP but he's not quite so deep into his career.

He would be an upgrade on Martial as a 9. Scores goals for fun. What do you all think, would you take him?

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22 Mar 2020 10:38:16
Rumours started last summer when Andy Goldstein from talksport said he was told Utd were in for him so maybe there is something in it who knows. Good player though wish he wasnt as old as he is.

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22 Mar 2020 10:54:42
I think we're done buying older players on high wages. He's a fantastic player but you'd imagine he'd demand Sanchez type salary. Just doesn't seem to go along with Solskjaer's plan.

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22 Mar 2020 12:02:02
I'd prefer lacazette to be honest. Although he's seemed a bit off this season.

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23 Mar 2020 11:10:01
I would rather save the money and buy ighalo and spend the big money on right wing, cm, pogba replacement and pacey centre back.

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23 Mar 2020 12:03:35
Thanks for replies guys. I think that Auba allows us to play how we have been playing, direct and very dangerous on the break, but hs also makes runs in the 6 yard area like a striker. He can score headers with more consistency. Depending on fee he could be interesting. Not for silly money either in transfer or wages.

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26 Mar 2020 16:05:39
who is Auba?

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