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31 Oct 2026 15:31:00
First half was very good, working hard, created numerous chances should have been well ahead. Same players and Manager but more effort. Real game of 2 halves, how Maguire gets away with such little criticism is beyond me, he actually steps out of way for their opener to let Rogers a clear run into the box, then has a laugh with Rogers up the other end during our corner. But Martinez obviously was the main culprit, a world cup winner with a serious chip on his shoulder, when he spoke about more signings, he failed to understand that it was him we should be replacing.

He hasn't been the same player since his injury. Could and should be sold in Jan if we get any decent offer. Just put Yoro and Heaven in their, give them a chance, can't get any worse, no clean sheet all season.

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31 Oct 2026 16:01:35
Redcon1,

I agree with you Buddy.

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31 Oct 2026 17:07:17
Yes Redcon, quite right.

I think Martinez has checked out and sees himself at Barcelona next summer. let's see if a deal can be done with Barca in January with maybe one of their player's who is likely to leave, perhaps Balde or a midfielder.

Think Leny Yoro should be playing Centre Back, he has been decent of late and deserves to play his proper position. Whilst he is not electric, he has decent pace and we need to get some in the centre of defence.

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31 Oct 2026 20:02:43
He will pair up with Romero.

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31 Oct 2026 21:00:13
Don't even start me on Maguire. I am a self confessed hater of him as a player and will not be swayed.

He is absolutely pants and not a leader on the park either vocally or by example. Should never have been signed and definitely not for the joke price we paid.

If pointing, cutting needless holes in your socks, claiming offside for nearly every goal conceded, pulling your pants up for corners, adjusting your fringe or being out of position more times than a virgin looking for the G-spot then he is superb!

Seaweed is a perfect name for him. Floats around aimlessly. But in fairness to him there are another 20 players that need to look in a mirror.

SAD SAD DAYS!

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31 Oct 2026 21:49:44
Keefy that's not fair mate, Maguire marks very closely at corners granted it's our players he holds on to but it's easy to get the shirts confused lol.

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31 Oct 2026 23:38:25
I'm with you on that Keefy. He is pants, always has been. Whoever gave him an extension should be fired.

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31 Oct 2026 23:59:21
Yeah fair call Tim. My bad.

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31 Oct 2026 14:38:51
Say it with me. Replacing Amorim with Carrick was a colossal mistake and we should have stuck with the process undertaken. Wilcox undermining him was the beginning in a series of unbelievably damaging decisions. All the signals were there last year but too many just focussed on results over the underlying performance metrics which all pointed towards what we are seeing now.

This is not due to form, this is a continuation.
Sack Carrick and Wilcox now and appoint reasonably competent people instead and we can still get into European positions. Sign at least one FB in January. Don't do that and we are getting relegated. It's as stark as that.

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31 Oct 2026 15:00:16
I couldn't agree more!

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31 Oct 2026 15:07:13
Neither amorim or Carrick are good enough donred but you are right about what happened.

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31 Oct 2026 15:13:45
Johnreese I disagree about Amorim not being good enough but understand the frustration with what seemed like stubbornness. I think it's very clear now that this stubbornness may have come due to not having trust in or from Wilcox. But it is perfectly fine to want a different style or think Amorim didn't adapt to the league quickly enough.

Lumping him in with Carrick though is completely unjust.
My annoyance isn't about Amorim going, it is the ineptitude of replacing him with someone who clearly isn't at the level required. We need a competent coach in quickly.

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31 Oct 2026 15:25:22
About right..this club is ran by absolutely morons.

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31 Oct 2026 15:23:53
Why live in yesteryear plus what proof is there that RA was even good enough the football was terrible the results were poor and he pulling up no trees at Milan .
Delusion if anyone thinks RA was good enough or even what United wanted or need.

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31 Oct 2026 16:19:05
We were 5th when he left. And finished 3rd with carrick. He changed the culture we had a clear pattern of play, physically fitter and most importantly the players liked and bought into what he was doing.

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31 Oct 2026 16:36:15
Amorim and Carrick are both just part of a long line of shambolic recruitment and decision making. Carrick tanking it isn't proof Amorim was doing a good job.

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31 Oct 2026 17:07:29
It is of you pay attention to the trends before and after. This is mind numbing. We only progress if we understand the flaws we've made. For everyone criticising the board now, if you see Carrick and Amorim situations as similar in any way, you have no rights to criticise when it's obvious you'd have made the same flawed decisions.

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31 Oct 2026 17:11:31
I realise that comes across as curt but there was such a level of antagonism here when these points were made 10 months ago by a bunch of us. This whole situation was completely avoidable.

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31 Oct 2026 20:07:25
Agreed DonRed, hence I will persevere with the updated % like the usual suspects did until Amorim was driven from the club.

In the summer, some of us called for the club to at the very least reset the principles and recycle the squad, to finally rid it of all the worthless crap we have accumulated. We chose not to.

We actually chose to drive the club backwards with out recruitment this summer.

I was told, you can't make that many changes in one window. What that translates to is that Glineos won't make that many changes. The spreadsheet wouldn't allow it.

It has to happen this next window and in the summer. Start the clearout now. To stand a chance of turning this around.

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31 Oct 2026 20:13:01
JSU, The numbers all said one thing but you and others seem to know better. How about show a bit of humility and recognise when you were incorrect?

Milan for what it's worth are 5th in Series A with one loss in 9.

There was ample evidence that we had improved massively under him for anyone who paid attention. But yet again the issue is how he was undermined and how he was replaced.

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31 Oct 2026 23:43:17
Again, well said DonRed.
Some will argue until they are blue in the face that Amorim was not providing positive outcomes.

The best part!

Carrick comes in, finds a way to win with the squad at his disposal, playing a totally different way, but in reality, that was the worst thing we could have done. The board lapped that up, and we are set back even further.

The fanbase and club just thought Amorim didn't know what he was doing, but he was changing the club, one bad recruitment decision at a time.

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01 Nov 2026 01:52:57
Its a pattern with analytics. Stats showed we were a team on the up with Amorim with mixed results, some of us said that results usually comes when your metrics are so good. And results came, although with Carrick.
Then same people said that with Carrick every metric (including run stats) went down and results will follow. It was no suprise that results followed bad performances.


Metrics are the best way to predict future results, yet some people insist that "the result matters". And look at us woth Carrick who did had great results last year. All of this ofcourse was avoidable. And ofcourse it was not about Amorim and Carrick, there are a lot of good, surely better, coaches than Carrick over there.

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30 Oct 2026 14:28:03
A Crazy Idea for United But Hear Me Out! 🔴

Look, I know this won't happen in a million years, especially under INEOS, but given where we are with injuries, results and our complete lack of squad depth, would anyone else take a punt on Mauro Icardi and Raphaël Guerreiro?

Both are currently free agents. Icardi gives us an experienced, proven goalscorer while Šeško is out, and Guerreiro offers much-needed cover at left-back with Shaw and Dorgu sidelined.

Yes, they're getting on. Yes, they come with baggage, injury concerns and question marks over fitness. But we're hardly in a position to be picky!

United have only filled 23 of their 25 Premier League squad places, so there's potentially room for both.

Get them in on short-term, incentive-based contracts until the summer. No transfer fees, no long-term commitments. They wouldn't be eligible for the remaining Champions League league-phase games, but could potentially help domestically and be registered for the knockouts (ha ha I can dream).

We're not talking about building the future around them. We're talking about getting through the next few months without the wheels completely falling off.

Madness or a calculated gamble worth taking? 🔴⚽.

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30 Oct 2026 18:29:28
It's a no for me. We can't keep repeating. All of this coming out in the wash is a good thing in some ways, the club can't hide from the problems are now.

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31 Oct 2026 02:12:16
It would be funny to see Icardi at 30+ and in his condition in Premier League. Defenders would eat him alive.

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31 Oct 2026 19:12:40
Icardi??? Ridiculous.

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28 Oct 2026 10:16:21
How right does Dan Ashworth look right now.

The club need to move on Wilcox, give Vivel a shot at the Jan window.

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28 Oct 2026 11:16:24
January window

We haven't a pot to p*ss in.

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28 Oct 2026 14:12:42
Dan Ashworth's treatment sums up how bad Ratcliffe is at running a football club.

Ashworth gave him a professional assessment of what rebuilding the club would look like - slow and steady improvements by putting in solid foundations. Ratcliffe didn't want to hear that, so he looked to Wilcox to tell him what he wanted to hear.

Two years later and none of the foundations have been built. Still a disconnect between the academy system and the way the first team play. Players bought for Ten Haag and Amorim being slotted into a system that doesn't fit, and new players picked by the sporting director with a questionable fit for Carrick.

Only a matter of time until another manager is going to dropped into this hodgepodge squad and expected to magically create a cohesive unit.

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28 Oct 2026 16:50:58
last thing the club will do now is sack Carrick, that would be a disaster as the upstairs will have seen after the weekend that they need to get the fans on board fast.

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28 Oct 2026 19:08:12

The pursuit of Ashworth was ridiculous. Mitchell was available at the time, not that I'm saying he would have been any good. I dont think he would have slotted into the structure anyway



However, the club needed someone in fairly quickly to prepare for the then upcoming summer window.



There are rumours of Wilcox and Berrada possibly being sacked, with Van Der Sar being linked as the next CEO.



Consequently, we are up s*** creek without a paddle. The stench is overwhelming.

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28 Oct 2026 19:45:11
Pspence

The fans cheered the club supporting ex player not the acumen of the manager. It would be a disaster if they don't sack him.

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28 Oct 2026 20:40:13
To some element I agree but I also think as proven by however managers since were were taken over that until the club is run by qualified people we find ourselves here.
Carrick is a nice guy but a caretaker is where it should have ended for me.


I still hope he turns it around but I doubt it.
These players are wrong un's though all of them. You watch them all turn up and win on Saturday.

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29 Oct 2026 22:36:21
If Van der Saar did come in he at least would know what a proper player is but no guarantee he could build the foundations nec for long term success. The Dutch and Premier Leagues are not the same.

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27 Oct 2026 09:00:46
Laurie Whitwell done a piece this morning on United. Currently carrick still in charge though the ownership still haven't decided his fate. Woeful. Apparently the main issue is financial as we are struggling to afford to sack him and pay up him and the coaches and also pay for a new manager.

If that's really the case then wth happens if we go down? Why would anyone else take the job if finances are that bad? We are an absolute joke, the rats have run us into the ground. Relegation is a real possibility and if it happens then I'm not sure what comes after. Scarey times ahead.

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28 Oct 2026 10:06:46
It might be the best thing to happen for us.
It would be painful but could force the change we need.

Imagine City and United in the Championship.

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28 Oct 2026 10:20:11
It would financially cripple us for the next decade at least. Relegation would be an absolute disaster for us.

We wouldn't be able to meet the financial restrictions of the league without selling/releasing most of our first team squad. While we wouldn't have the financial spending power to replace those players meaning we would likely have to play in the Championship (one of the toughest and most competitive leagues in Europe with our under 21 side. If we cannot meet the financial restrictions of the league then we will get a points deduction.

As far as I'm aware we do not have any relegation clauses in the majority of our players contracts, although nearly all our commercial sponsorship deals require us to be an EPL club. Which means going down to the Championship ends those deals and the money coming in from them.

Make no mistake, going down to the Championship will likely mean an extended stay there and not an immediate bounce back.

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28 Oct 2026 11:18:06
If we've got to the point where we're so hard up that our garbage owners can't afford to fire a manager, let alone buy any top rated players, and we don't have any players who we can sell to generate funds, then how are we ever going to get out of this hole?

Let's say we somehow survive this season, but with no European football or prospect of it in the future, and with these owners continuing, no funds or technical ability to buy the right players going forward, would that be okay with everyone here?

It seems to me we're in a catch 22 position. The club is saddled with debt and can't make enough profits to reduce it without regular European football but can't afford the type of players or manager to be achieve that end. So, it's rinse and repeat.

Shappy's right. Going down to the Championship, which would reduce revenues to maybe £300-£400m would require major surgery to the squad, but, let's be honest, how many of these players are good enough for a top team anyway?

Right now the club has only 3 things going for it: incredibly loyal fans, a big stadium and a globally recognized name. So, if with Championship revenues gong forward, the debt situation forces the Glazers to sell, I believe it would be worth it in the long run. A new debt free ownership group would give us the basis for doing well in the Championship. It may well not result in an immediate return.

My football club has effectively been stolen through financial manipulation and incompetence. I want it back. Whatever it takes.

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26 Oct 2026 22:32:44
Does anyone actually have proper knowledge about the level of control Utds managers have had these past years.

When all is said the truth is that United have actually spent a lot of money on players. Add up the fees on Cuenha Mbwuemo Mount Sesko Santos Tielemans Baleba Yoro and it's a lot of money.

I am sure every manager at some time is refused by his board to buy a player or two

Hard questions must be asked about Carrick.

Why did he agree to the purchase of thee central midfielders when a left back was a necessity. Why did he not push for a top central defender and a striker. If he did and was rebuffed then it should have made him question his position and he should have walked away.

Asking somebody to do their job and then handicapping by depriving them of the tools they need and expecting them to succeed is irrational and cruel.

Also why is it that other teams can identify players that don't cost fortunes but who still come into the Premier League and perform at a really high level. Brighton and Brentford are especially good at this. Yes the expectation and pressure is greater at United but as Bournemouth proved it's what you do the pitch with what you have that counts.

All these issues will await the new manager if there is to be one. To expect him to get the team playing properly means being patient. He will also have to make do without being able to buy the very best players at the moment. Utds finances don't permit paying the highest fees and more importantly the very best players no longer see United as the place to be. Their view only strengthened by the abysmal way things have been at the club for the last decade.

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27 Oct 2026 06:36:45
Based on what the club have put out about the recruitment structure, ensuring (apparently) that the players brought were not for managers but for a club structure/plan I am not sure how much Carrick would have had a say. I am sure they discussed it with him and he would have had an input, but once the budget was set the midfield was the key direction to replace Casimero and add depth.
All other positions were likely coming from player sales that did not materialise.

Left Back should definitely have been addressed, however when we have Dorgu, Shaw, Amass, Dalot and Mazouiri who can all play there I can see why at the time it was lower in the priorities once the above was taken into consideration. However, with the injuries, rubbish play from replacements and lack of trust in Amass it is looking less and less like good planning.

Carrick got the players united at the end of last season and that probably papered over some cracks in quality, unfortunately we are seeing these cracks now and the players turning. If stories are to be believed, the team are not fit and the quality of training/plan is not there. you could argue their execution of it is not there either.

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27 Oct 2026 08:03:05
I think Carrick, as head coach rather than manager, had a say as to what positions needed filling but virtually no input as to who would fill them.

Yes, we had options at left back, but the first choice was Shaw who has been prone to injury, and is also aging. Dalot and Mazraoui are primarily right backs and are not good enough anyway. Dorgu is a wing back, better going forward than back, and Amass is unproven and will never be a top level EPL player. Failing to improve the back line was an incredible failure. Defense wins matches and everyone and his mother knew we were desperately deficient. I'm absolutely positive that Carrick, who actually said he was hoping for further reinforcements, and the whole team was deflated by the failure of the club to back the manager in the transfer window.

I was one that though Carrick deserved a chance, but was listening to Gary Nevile yesterday saying how he's hoped Carrick wouldn't get the job and that the club went out and got a top experienced manager. The doubters were right. The team was clearly not prepared well to face a rigorous season. The problem however was that any top manager - assuming he'd work for the evil incompetent clowns who run our club - would have insisted on being supported in acquiring best in class players rather than hit and hope middle of the roaders, or nothing at all. Our club doesn't apparently have the funds to support those types of acquisitions. The owners have priorities other than footballing quality.

Twenty years of sucking the club dry. United have spent more on finance costs, dividends and sacking managers than City brought in through sham contracts. That's a £2bn swing in cash flow. Add to that the incompetence and we are where we are.

It's past time for the fans to turn their backs.

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27 Oct 2026 08:59:20
Out of curiosity where will United finish this season? Seems you have a crystal ball if you state with 100% certainty that Amass will never be a top level EPL, without him even being given a chance.

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27 Oct 2026 22:40:26
He'll be good for us in the championship though next season.

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28 Oct 2026 10:10:08
The guy I know who works with the club said Carrick says "this is what I want" wether that is fitness, conditioning preparation or players and he has some form of approval but not total control.

All delegated except training and tactics.

Reflecting on ex managers comments this all makes sense.

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26 Oct 2026 14:58:08
On the running stats, l think City are well down on other too. It's not about just running its proper team coordinated running. I watched Bruno run around all over the place but its not done with purpose and support. You have to ask, were the players told to push on and close down together, was Bruno deciding this on his own or were some players just lazy to press.

It was well reported that many managers talk to their senior players about game plans and inputs etc. I still think Bruno is pissed at the contract negotiations and the offer made, probably way less that Rashfords.

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27 Oct 2026 18:05:40
By what Bruno said the team were asked not to press in that como game although he broke rank and pressed alone.
I'm sure a lot of players are upset not just with the manager but the direction of the club. I'm sure like the fans they saw the business done in the summer and probably couldn't believe it.

I would imagine all of them were sold a vision on signing or extending theirs stays and like always the board never keep to their words. It must have an effect on them. They are also seeing and hearing a lot more than us.

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28 Oct 2026 10:11:09
I was told the conditioning team focused on strength work over running. They messed up Sesko imo.

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26 Oct 2026 11:48:50
Thinking about the possibility of relegation, do we have anyone we could actually sell to cushion the enormous financial blow? West Ham raised £200m during the summer. What could we get for anyone?

Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Licha are all out of contract so the club could reduce payroll by £40m but we will still have Rashford's £15m+. Dalot has another year.

Can anyone estimate what United's revenues would fall to if the club wee relegated?

For me, new substantially debt free owners, a new manager/head coach and DOF, and a season down in the Championship is what's needed to excise the demons that haunt the club. If that happened I think the right manager would bring the club straight back to the EPL.

The problem is that the Glazers are now so tied into their land deals that getting rid of them is going to be really complicated. And, if there was a sale, given the current state of affairs, would Sir Tax Exile be able to recoup his investment.

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26 Oct 2026 12:14:24
I doubt we will get relegated. New manager will bounce us and end mid table

Saying we need a season in the championship is ludicrous. What's to say we only spend a year there?
Championship is gruelling and physical. Physicality we lack and we get injuries enough as it is without having a 46 game league.

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26 Oct 2026 14:38:26
Absolutely stupid the fans all singing Carrick name yesterday the idiots running our club will think that's an excuse to keep the cheap way out.
Its about time that people stopped living in yesteryear, like praising Carrick now, now is nothing to do with him as a player years ago.

It's about time those who calling for Heaven and Yoro to be our CBs realise neither is good enough and that Tielemans and Santos are poor and Cunha is not of required standard, even our GK is not of the required standard we have sub standard players all over the pitch we have Sun standard manager and coaches and substandard team in Ineos too, but that's no surprise to me, what does surprise me is the fools who support this lot including Carrick and the players listed above.

The team is not fit enough that's on Carrick no one else.
The team as no structure and lack of discipline and tactical play that on Carrick
The poor signings and that's everyone of them since Ineos been in certainly is on Ineos.
Hearing Howe wants his own coaching team and United want him to have there crap.

No manager either his sorts will not want there own team.
Not a chance we get relegated probably end up mid table, but supporters. especially those on here need to get real and understand how poor our individual players are instead of getting all bitter when facts are pointed out to them.
We don't have one CB at the club worthy of the name.
Not one striker either.
And now we have no midfield either.
Plus one GK who ideally is a back up keeper.
That's how low we become.

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26 Oct 2026 16:46:18
I think people hoping for a reset in the Championship should be careful what they wish for.
Can you honestly see the bulk of this squad having the heart for a battle on a rainy Wednesday night at Stoke? I'd have serious doubts we'd get out straight away. Tough, tough league.

I don't think we'll get relegated, by the way.

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26 Oct 2026 17:33:52
So with all that you've said there, bless us with your solution je suis.

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26 Oct 2026 19:36:32
Ports, that won't take long, they could write all their wisdom on a postage stamp 😂.

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28 Oct 2026 10:15:18
Being relegated would be disastrous but it is a reality right now.

Carrick isn't the only problem and I'm sure Berrada level will be wrestling with how much change is needed.

An incoming manager will be for the international break and give time to get their stuff together. I hope Carrick can turn it around and perhaps go at the end of the season with a UCL finish.

I'm not overly sold on Howe but can see him doing what we wanted Carrick to do.

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26 Oct 2026 11:19:19
We were always in trouble when our defence wasn't addressed in the Summer, Maguire isn't and never was a 70 million player, he maybe a great guy and good with others but he's nowhere near the level required Dalot and Shaw should have been replaced years ago too. We have 2 promising players in Yoro and Heaven and while they make mistakes they have no one guiding them, hopefully a full fit DeLigt will help them.

I really think 2 defenders LB and CB plus cover at CF would transform the squad given the right players and Manager. Just don't see Howe getting the respect from the players, l think Naglesman has managed at the highest level with Bayern and German plus he has a reported good working relationship with Vivell, might just by pass Wilkox completely.

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25 Oct 2026 16:44:28
Could we get Casemiro back please.

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25 Oct 2026 17:14:55
We got 3 players in none of them fit enough to lace Cass boots even an aging one. that shows how bad the summer buys were
Even last summers buys were low rent.
Cunha level is Wolves.

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25 Oct 2026 17:32:37
Cunha Mbwuemo Tielamans Amad Baleba Yoro Lammens Bruno Mainoo all not terrible players. They should be performing better.

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25 Oct 2026 17:36:38
Maybe Bruno and mainoo are the only ones you could imagine playing for a top 4 side. The rest are average players at best mid table squad players.

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25 Oct 2026 18:37:47
Cunha is playing outside of his position, he's not LW/LM. Mbeumo is the best as CF, he's mostly playing on the right. Two players up front who should be the most important are out of their position. As for the new guys, I think they can't believe where they have arrived and it obviously affects their performances.

I'm not taking the blame away from the players, but when everything else is rotten, you can't expect them to be at their best.

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25 Oct 2026 18:50:50
We were crap with Casemiro too. And Inter Maiami started to lose the time Casemiro went there. Its a beautiful story with Casemiro and all this but i think is not the case.

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26 Oct 2026 06:20:15
Cas's spirit was good, particularly, in his last season. His connection with Bruno and his goals were vital. Those two drove the team on, masking both the defensive and Carrick's deficiencies. The ownership then failed to cough and buy the best players in class, choosing instead to spend £130m on land and interest payments.

Casemiro had a mixed time at OT, but he went out on a high. There's a good case can be made that he was the engine that drove the team on, and Bruno was the principal beneficiary.

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26 Oct 2026 06:50:10
Perhaps all those that keep calling for York and Heaven as CBs going forward will now realise just how poor both are and nowhere near required level
Same with Tielemans and Santos
Cunha not much better
Memo os never ever a centre forward he is ok from right that's about it
Laments not even required level when you all eventually realise that the better.

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26 Oct 2026 10:01:50
York laments the memo about marching up the hill.

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26 Oct 2026 09:47:27
Mbuemo surely can't be a centre forward? I've seen enough of him and Cunha. Not up to it or not good enough you decide . Much like the rest of the first team.
It's time Bruno left now. His petulant behaviour that until now only seemed to on the pitch is now spilling out.


Don't even get me started on the absolute crap we signed this summer.
Wilcox and that bald twat next to him need to leave and take the crap signings with them.

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