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27 Sep 2020 16:19:22
Some talk of Andreas going to Lazio on loan. Some places saying a loan with an obligation to buy and others saying an option to buy instead. Even seen 27 million euros quoted. Thought I'd share. Ed have you heard anything, I know you were saying we were looking to high a fee for him.

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{Ed002's Note - Lazio and Benfica provide options.}

27 Sep 2020 18:20:53
Thanks Ed. Hopefully a busy week for the club with regards transfers.

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25 Sep 2020 13:46:19
Looks like Levy is properly backing Jose this summer. In talks with Ruben Dias now.

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25 Sep 2020 13:59:02
i have them finishing third in the league this year and may give city some tough competition. All said and done, jose is a very good manager and the Spurs team profile suits him - not many prima donnas, mature players, good physicality, anything he achieves will be more than what they did under Poch, profile of the club is not too big to overshadow him etc.

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25 Sep 2020 14:12:00
Interesting if Spurs get him in when we were unable to a couple of years ago.


It’s still Mourinho though. The novelty will wear off.

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25 Sep 2020 14:13:33
True that RLF and not to forget it is Jose's second season too. So all stars aligned. I have them winning the Europa this year.

I thought Levy was the penny pinching one, Ed is outscoring him there.
Probably selling his house to gather funds for some late transfers 😂😂.

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25 Sep 2020 14:32:23
I don't think Spurs will pull up trees this year. The defence looks iffy even with the additions of Doherty, Reguilon and possibly Dias. Three players who have never played together before is hardly a great start, even if all three do well it will take time for them to work well as a unit. Alderweireld is declining and suffers too many injuries, Aurier is a liability defensively as is Sanchez. Tanganga looks a good prospect, expect Jose to ruin him.

The Spurs midfield looks lightweight and lacking creativity. Ndombele hasn't succeed yet. Winks is decent, but needs a player along side him with physicality and drive. Sissoko is Sissoko, good some weeks, shocking others. Alli has been on a downward spiral for 18 months. Lo Celso looked good last season. But he is the only one.

They have an interesting mix of players going forward. Obviously Kane is top class, as is Son. Bergwijn looks a player too. Yet they also have (Lame) la and Moura who are very hit and miss. While adding Bale does add a potentially top player, however, will he be fit often enough?

When I look at this Spurs team I see a new and untested defence, a very poor midfield and a potentially blockbuster front line.

I think the best way to get the most out of this Spurs side is to outscore their opponents. However, they have a safely first manager who might well put the shackles on their best players.

They also have several key players who have in the last few seasons or so struggled with injury, no one would be surprised to see Spurs line up without Alderweireld, Bale and Kane due to injury.

I don't see Spurs challenging for the top 4 this season.

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25 Sep 2020 14:39:14
Spurs furloughed their staffs and are outspending us.

Most importantly, they are improving the squad and backing their manager.

I'm just tired waiting for club to show some ambition to move us forward.

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25 Sep 2020 14:52:44
Shappy, i will give you three names of United and tell me if they gelled even when they didn't play together before. Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra.

You are basing your arguments on a lot of ifs. If Kane and Bale stay fit, if the defence gels, if Sissoko isn't hit wnd miss. What if all of them hit.

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25 Sep 2020 15:47:27
Shan, do you remember Vidic's and Evra's first season? They joined in January and looked a little iffy for the first few months. It wasn't until the start of their first full season that they started to play well as individuals and as a defensive unit.

After they had 6 months and a full pre-season to gel with their teammates.

Can Reguilon, Alderweireld, Doherty and Dias all speak the same language? If not how well will they communicate while trying to build up an on pitch relationship.

Defence more than any other area on the pitch requires months of training, playing and working together to build up and to be able to defend in a unit.

Very few teams get instant success when changing 3 of their back 4.

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25 Sep 2020 16:08:58
Dias joining City apparently.

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25 Sep 2020 15:36:15
I can't see them getting past us or Chelsea and possibly a rejuvenated Arsenal for top 4.

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25 Sep 2020 15:41:18
i am with Shan on this one. I think they will do well. The spurs midfield with winks, sissokko, ndombele, lo Celso, Fernandes has good options. Hojberg is an astute signing and i expect him to do well under jose as he is very good at doing a job (herrera style) . Their defence will also be vastly improved with reguillon and doherty, not to mention if they get Ruben Dias.

You could even argue that their starting 11 with Lloris, reguillon, doherty, alderweireld, Dias (if), Winks, Sossoko, Locelso, Bale, Son, Kane is almost as good as ours. Bonus is they have less focus and pressure on them to perform, a better options frrom the bench with moura, bergwin, ndombele, a new striker maybe and alli, than we do.

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25 Sep 2020 16:26:54
Tanganga looks a good prospect, expect Jose to ruin him? Shappy 😂 I would never have said Jose ruins young players.

Your analysis 🤦‍♂️ my god. I hope jose is reading this, I'm sure he could do with a few of your 'coaching' pointers 😂😂.

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25 Sep 2020 16:45:30
Loll Shappy really hates Jose.

If they get Dias and with Mourinhi in charge i would forget about top 4.

City, liverpool and Spurs will be top 3 and then Arsenal or Chelsea will take the 4th position.

The only way we will make top 4 this year is if we sign a good cb along with a striker or rw.

With Ole and his coaching staff i absolutely have no faith! .

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25 Sep 2020 18:43:17
Thought Dias was for city and skriniar for spurs. at least that’s what was being reported earlier 🤷‍♂️.

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25 Sep 2020 16:46:58
Ed i wanted to ask you what is th3 difference between a manager and! Coach?

Is the coach responsible to teach players how to play or is it headed by directions from the manager as to how and what tactics to use? .

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{Ed002's Note - In many cases it is not something that differs much - "manager" is used in the vernacular in the UK. Some "managers" actually have the title "head coach". In mainland Europe many coaches will not be part of the transfer process. In England they tend to have more of a say.}

25 Sep 2020 20:47:13
Spurs won't finish in the top 3 100%. I can see spurs struggling and mourinho leaving before the seasons finished. He will cause a fraction in their squad, bale signing will also probably hinder them, they have a strict wage bill and I'm sure other will be asking for a pay rise unsuccessfully and that will cause them problems too.

Mourinho used to be a good manager, when the players were men, they could take it, nowadays it will break a lot of them, that is his biggest downfall, the evolution and the younger generation.

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25 Sep 2020 22:22:56
Lads, it’s Tottenham.

In all seriousness, I don’t care what they’re doing. We should be worrying about ourselves.

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25 Sep 2020 23:22:49
Bale will tear the league up can’t believe people writing him off.

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26 Sep 2020 00:30:17
Okay thanks ed.

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26 Sep 2020 09:26:19
Well not all of us follow golf RobbieWood, didn't know they used a league structure now.

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26 Sep 2020 09:34:38
The only thing I can see bale tearing up is the green on the 18th hole. He will most likely be injured for a large part of the season. He has had a lot of muscle injuries over the past few years and he is a pace and power player. Kinda reminds me of Owen.

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26 Sep 2020 19:36:34
This original post has aged badly. Levy has no money for Dias.

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25 Sep 2020 11:27:18
Good morning Ed, is there anything to rumours about the rw traore from Atalanta? Few people suggesting he's an option so thought I'd gauge your knowledge on his situation. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - He is not an option to Sancho and would not be one for the first team.}

25 Sep 2020 11:48:39
Appreciate the quick reply Ed thanks 👍.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Tim.}

25 Sep 2020 14:23:04
ED002 - appreciate that he is only 18 and not ready for first team at present but do you know if we have shown an interest?

Many thanks as always.

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are one of the sides who have enquires after him - but I would not expect him to move this summer.}

24 Sep 2020 11:21:13
Hi Ed002,

Has there been any recent update on Federico Chiesa?
I remember you had mentioned his reluctance to leave Italy.

Do United still consider him for the RW option?

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{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (RW/F) much more affordable than Sancho for Manchester United and of prior interest, but not something the club are looking to pursue at this time. Inter remain keen although talks are now on hold although they want him to replace the departed Yann Karamoh but have other positions to address first and will want to include a player in the deal - Radja Nainggolan but he wants Cagliari and they want him. Inter may now look elsewhere. Sarri desired the player when at Napoli and he wanted to improve his options at Juventus but is now gone. Interest would only remain if they could mean moving on both Douglas Costa and Bernardeshi first - although they are still trying even though Sarri has departed – although they do have a preferred option. Milan interest runs hot and cold, and money could be an issue but they are actively trying to agree a deal with his representatives – but they will likely return to Fiorentina with a convoluted deal involving other players and perhaps a loan with an obligation to buy. Prior interest of Napoli and Roma has gone.}

23 Sep 2020 19:30:02
Nicolas Tagliafico is the latest name being linked with us, as an alternative to Yelled if we can't agree the move with Porto. Is there any interest Ed's?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach but the amateurs want to offer players as part of the deal for Telles.}

23 Sep 2020 20:45:09
Ed would Dalot be one of the players we are considering offering to Porto?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

23 Sep 2020 21:21:13
Heard that Woodward offered Andreas, Jesse and Diogo + 18m to reach the asking price of 25m. Is this true? 🤔🙄😂.

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23 Sep 2020 20:57:40
I take it the deal may not happen then Ed as they are messing about? Honestly the levels of incompetence are staggering and it’s not even a huge financial deal 🤦‍♂️.

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23 Sep 2020 21:07:56
Thanks ed.

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23 Sep 2020 22:47:58
@ziko87 - surely adding them means we have to pay more than the asking price! 😂.

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23 Sep 2020 22:55:04
Gets worse and worse. These guys are bloody clowns.

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24 Sep 2020 06:12:16
Key, maybe you're right 😂 Keep calm, guys, by the end of the window we're getting Sancho and Telles. Sancho deal is done, Dortmund and United just leaving it late on purpose.

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24 Sep 2020 07:49:14
Struggling to offload players costing us dear this window.

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24 Sep 2020 08:23:22
With the club looking to offload Dalot it looks like Williams might be principal coverage for AWB this season.

Another LB we have been linked to again today is Fode Ballo-Toure of AS Monaco. So that's Reguilon, Alex Telles, Mykolenko, Tagliafico and now Ballo-Toure. It seems we are working our way down the list.

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24 Sep 2020 08:40:13
Who would have thought that offering rubbish footballers high wages and long deals would make them hard to shift?! 🤷‍♂️.

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24 Sep 2020 06:22:07
Hey Ed,

Is it true that United are not willing to pay 18M for Telles? I mean that's quite ridiculous, right? Apart from them being amateurs of the highest order, is there any other genuine reason why we are doing this?

Also, does this mean that from being something that could be possible, the Telles deal may now be over?

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{Ed002's Note - It is not as simple as that - in reducing the transfer fee Porto expect the buy to pay fees owed to Galatasary and to pay the agent fees. Even the amateurs should be able to resolve this.}

24 Sep 2020 09:39:00
LVG was right.
The club get's 7th or 8th choice players by haggling over fees and bullying other clubs.

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24 Sep 2020 10:31:24
Ed002, I often wonder how your career as a rodeo clown leads you to such insights into football transfers. Is such knowledge quite common within the bull ring?

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{Ed002's Note - Because of my being omnipotent.}

23 Sep 2020 15:41:13
Ed002, if you don't mind. Do you have insight into the possibility of some of the surplus players leaving the club.

Specifically, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Dalot, Romero, Grant, Perreria.

Is it that nobody wants to buy them or don't they want to leave? Is the problem their salaries because other clubs won't pay them that much or they won't take a pay cut to secure a move?

The last question might be more difficult to answer, but do you think that they think they might get another chance to play for Utd or is it that they are happy to receive their wages just for turning up to training?

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{Ed002's Note - All of this has been answered. Estudiantes want Rojo but are not going to pay the asking price. Phil Jones will not be going anywhere. Lingard will likely look to run down his contract rather than move which is not in his best interests. Dalot is being priced out of a moved or offered as a part exchange. Romero could leave for Valencia in the coming days - very unhappy with the club. No idea about Grant. Pereira was priced out of a move.}

23 Sep 2020 21:31:51
It somehow gets more farcical by the day. I understand it's a business and the club will want to make money where possible but surely there's one person with some common sense who sees we should cut our losses with some of these players?

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23 Sep 2020 21:44:01
Just when you think it can't get worse. if this doesn't make the club realise they need a DoF, i don't know what will.
We will be holding onto players after haggling over a few mil and paying that and more in wages over the course of the year. Worse, it doesn't free up squad space for new recruits. P**s poor planning.

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23 Sep 2020 21:54:42
Thanks Ed002, your response is much appreciated.

I know the flavour of the month is slag off the club but seems they're damned if they won't accept what they deem to be unacceptably low offers and damned because they won't move on surplus wages.

I think the real problem is wages. Clubs will only offer low fees because of how much the wages make the total cost of taking on the player. In this respect the club has made a rod for its own back.

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23 Sep 2020 23:41:36
Surplus players, not wages.

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24 Sep 2020 08:04:00
A DOF won’t make any difference if they report up the financial route to Woodward, it would still be a financial decision rather than a more balanced one if they report to the board. That way financial is a consideration but not the only one

I would be guessing but trying to use player exchange says they want to retain cash, possibly for a separate bigger deal or just to protect dividends.

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24 Sep 2020 09:41:38
Who in their right mind would price Pereira out of a move? Oh yeah, we're not run by people in their right minds.

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26 Sep 2020 23:20:29
I feel sorry for Romero, the club have treated him like crap and hope he gets the move he wants. I like the guy and he has never really let the team down when he has been called upon.

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22 Sep 2020 11:37:39
Duncan castles reporting (I know I know) that united have proposed a season long loan deal to Barcelona for dembele? But that Barcelona want an obligation to buy for €100mill. Can I assume this is just nonsense Ed? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - This has been dealt with before but it aligns with something Barcelona would accept and resolves the Sancho deal.}

22 Sep 2020 13:33:45
Seems like a big risk to have an obligation to buy a player like dembele for such a large amount of money with his injury record.

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22 Sep 2020 13:59:55
Yeah DSG. 35 league starts in 3 years is a pretty poor injury record.

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22 Sep 2020 13:51:11
thanks ed002.didnt know it had been asked earlier, apologies.

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22 Sep 2020 14:32:20
the worst thing about his injuries is that their all muscle injuries for a player of his age, relies on pace

he is to injured.

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22 Sep 2020 14:32:21
There’ll be fans swinging by EW’s house again if such an insane deal is agreed. I really wish I could say that the club aren’t that stupid, but these days I wouldn’t be too surprised.

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22 Sep 2020 14:34:07
His injury record makes Louis Saha, Owen Harreaves and Phil Jones look like the X Men -sadly.

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22 Sep 2020 14:46:13
Why do we always leave it until the end of window and panic buy.

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22 Sep 2020 15:02:59
It seems there is a panic in every transfer rumours related to Manutd.

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22 Sep 2020 15:19:29
Ruud,

We don’t, that’s just something you’ve assumed happens. The last few happens that hasn’t happened at all, perhaps since Fellaini.

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22 Sep 2020 16:33:20
I don't understand this loan with obligation to buy. If the club has to buy after the loan period ends why have the loan in the first place. They can directly buy and agree to make the payment from next year.
Or there are clauses which might make the contract void?

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22 Sep 2020 16:34:13
Can someone shed more light on what "obligation to buy" entails?
Is it a Must buy or does it mean if utd want to sign him after loan spell, the fee must be 100m?

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{Ed002's Note - It means that the club are contracted to buy.}

22 Sep 2020 17:13:14
GDS,
Fair point. we are far better at making promises and not delivering.

Still, hopefully we pull a win tonight, we need this cup!

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22 Sep 2020 17:27:29
Thank you Ed.

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22 Sep 2020 19:42:24
Gds 80 million for maguire.

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22 Sep 2020 22:52:32
I'll be honest GDS, it was strange seeing one of your posts without a lot of red writing after it 😁.

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23 Sep 2020 09:47:20
If your going to commit 100 million to buy an injury plagued player next season why not just commit 120 million now to buy Sancho now. Makes no sense at all.

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{Ed025's Note - thats been uniteds biggest problem sim0, they put all their eggs in one basket trying to get him and now its difficult to change tack mate..

23 Sep 2020 10:24:27
A loan to buy is nothing short of spending next summers transfer budget this summer. Which makes no sense.

Dembele is a player we should avoid like the plague. His injury record is poor and there are a few question marks over his professionalism and work rate. I wouldn't sign him for 40m let alone 100m.

The way I see it is simple, Sancho is the only player available who I'd like to see signed who goes in on our RW ahead of Greenwood. In 11 minutes last night Greenwood grabbed a goal and set one up. He is more than ready to be first choice.

If we can't get Sancho then what we need is a different rotation option for Greenwood. Someone who offers something different and can step in from time to time to give Greenwood both a physical and mental break. In a couple of months Greenwood will turn 19, he already has over 50 appearances for the first team under his belt.

We should either sign a more traditional wide player who'll run down the outside and look to stretch play, or a wide playmaker sort of player who can come inside and create goal scoring chances.

Considering where we are and who might be available then Ismailia Sarr might be a good option for a more traditional type winger or David Brooks for a wide playmaker. Both are young, EPL proven and easily available, while neither will have a problem being a rotation option at a top club.

The problem is the club have spent so long chasing a marquee signing in Sancho that they will likely receive a lot of fan backlash if they moved from Sancho to Brooks or Sarr.

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23 Sep 2020 10:51:41
Mata, Lingard, James.? Every time Mata plays he looks brilliant. Lingard is worth hanging on to - his head now seems in the right place and is a ball of energy.

I’d take Dembele on loan but he has to earn his transfer permanently.

The front 3 of Greenwood, Martial and Rashford is class. Don’t think Ighalo is up to scratch - mind you’re he’s barely played so his touch and fitness will be nowhere near full strength.

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23 Sep 2020 11:23:39
Very good player and great to watch but he has had some serious injury issues.

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22 Sep 2020 12:33:01
Dembele rumours doing the rounds again. Quality player when fit, would be very expensive I imagine.

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22 Sep 2020 13:11:46
Re Ousmane Dembele Expensive with a bad injury record.
His entourage blames his injuries on Barcelona s training regime. I find it a bit hard to believe.
I would only consider a loan with option to buy.

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22 Sep 2020 13:43:29
Fantastic player when fit, but struggles with injuries. There have been stories previously about him being a poor trainer and lacking focus.

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22 Sep 2020 16:00:49
dev1l I'm sure I saw a post on here not so long back proving that Barcelona's training could actually be a factor.

Likewise Shappy I'm sure 002 (or another Ed) say he has matured somewhat.


A loan seems sensible but not with the obligation to buy.

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22 Sep 2020 16:41:17
Barcelona have already shipped out a handful of players without replacing them. How many are they going to have left? Surely they will retain the younger players and build around them whilst getting the older players off the books, which they have begun doing.

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{Ed002's Note - They are working on various things.}



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