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27 May 2024 20:09:15
Martial gone. officially. Such a wasted talent if only he had the mentality of a Ronaldo or Messi who knows how good he could have been!

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27 May 2024 20:50:09
Plenty of players have the talent, very few have the mentality, resilience and work ethic to be elite level.

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27 May 2024 21:35:42
Finally!

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27 May 2024 13:40:02
Rumours going around that Ten Hag will be staying at United but with a reduced role when it comes to transfers.

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27 May 2024 14:51:54
I think that after the last decade it was a given that anyone previously involved in transfers should have a reduced or even no role in any transfer.

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27 May 2024 16:54:39
The best possible outcome if you ask me.

Let the "experts" handle transfers and let ETH focus on implementing their desired style of play and coaching the players.

The managers of the last 10 years have had too many responsibilities.

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27 May 2024 17:14:36
That works for me, let him coach and not make decisions on players.

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27 May 2024 17:31:29
Makes perfect sense, hope it’s true.

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27 May 2024 17:57:08
Kind of hope so. That being said, if he stays, any run of dodgy results and he’s canned.

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27 May 2024 19:00:57
I would imagine he'd welcome that. It made sense he wanted control when he came in because it was awful before him, but he operated in a system at Ajax similar to the one proposed and did great there.

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27 May 2024 19:47:45
The issue with if you believe the likes of lvg, jose and ole the ceo bought players they didn't want or ask for. So i don't believe that all signings by ETH as well. So if true how is this any different to what's happened previously. Could be a disaster as personally think all managers should have a massive input into any transfer, as they are the ones who have to manage them.
But then again i'm still abit old school.

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27 May 2024 20:26:38
Do you guys actuallly think that the new board that naive to just buy players if Ten Hag doesn't want them.

The sporting team will discuss with Ten Hag and say this is 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice and they will try get the first choice for him.

You guys are quite naive to think a sporting director will just buy a player without consulting with manager and if that happens then it won't work but I an pretty much sure that is not how things are going tk be run under the new structure.

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27 May 2024 21:41:27
I hope it’s not true. I am sure ETH has given it his all and the injuries have not been kind to him. I am glads he gets to go out on a sort of a higher spot than he would otherwise after winning the FA cup. It doesn’t mask over the whole season of being absolutely below average.

He has not helped his case by being unable to manage the playing style (a goal difference of NEGATIVE 1 after 38 games! ), asking for players (even if you excuse the amount we paid for them) like Antony, Onana, Mount etc.

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27 May 2024 22:26:29
Singh I don't think anyone suggested that version. Merely that he'll have a reduced role. Maybe read the posts before going all in on the criticism (I didn't post above fwiw)

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27 May 2024 11:20:23
Ed002 are we looking at thomas frank.

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{Ed002's Note - There is some support for Frank at bManchester United but he would be no better than perhaps fourth choice.}

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27 May 2024 18:20:24
Hi Ed002, you’ve said for a while you think ETH will be be moved on, do you as things stand still think this to be the case and if so who is the front runner to replace him?

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{Ed002's Note - I would think Pochettino.}

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27 May 2024 21:44:14
Thanks for sharing Ed002. Can’t wait for us to start a new season with a new focus and perhaps one of lesser negativity than this season was. So be it if ETH stays but with Pochettino, Tuchel and others ‘available’ and I assume some of them also interested in managing United, it seems like ETH’s time is done. His interviews certainly make it seem like he knows he’s gone.

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26 May 2024 12:55:17
Hi ed, any chance we look to keep amrabat or was it too little to late for him? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Sofyan Amrabat (DM/CM) Loan has largely not worked out well and Manchester United will not take up their €25M option. As such he will head back to Fiorentina at the end of the season. Agent is already doing the rounds with some interest from Juventus, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Milan. Player will want guarantees of game time. Fiorentina will want him sold but it is unlikely any of the interested sides would pay more than €20M.}

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26 May 2024 13:42:30
Well he did himself huge favours yesterday with that performance.

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26 May 2024 13:18:38
Thanks ed…Pity as he seemed to finally understand his role and when played there he really did well. Seemed fitter too. He was immense yesterday so at least he goes with a medal in his pocket!

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26 May 2024 15:42:06
If we could get him for £10m would be a good squad player if he was played in the right position.

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26 May 2024 15:45:58
If he could replicate yesterday’s form on a more consistent basis £20m would be a snip.

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26 May 2024 19:50:19
I agree if a reasonable fee can be agreed he’d be a good addition. Finally looked a little more like the player I remember from the world cup and we need options.

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27 May 2024 10:30:28
I don't know. I still get the fear when he takes more than one touch. A few times he was a whisker away from losing possession in dangerous areas, but managed to dig out a pass at the last second. Never really looks in control of the ball. Like his engine and attitude, though. Is that enough?

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27 May 2024 15:45:54
I think Amrabat would be excellent cover. He’s taken time to adapt but at his age and move from Italy it is to be expected.

It was similar to Sabitzer last season.

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27 May 2024 16:24:34
Looked like he had the game of his life on Saturday. Not going to get to that level every week. And as someone above mentioned, he is milliseconds away from losing the ball far too often imo. Need similar but with more mobility and pace.

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27 May 2024 21:45:35
He had perhaps 2-3 good games and 1 excellent game. It should never be enough to earn a contract at United.

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24 May 2024 22:19:56
Is there any truth in United being linked to Desire Doue?

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25 May 2024 11:40:41
He's looks a hell of a talent, seems to be able to play everywhere, wide on either side, false 9/ second striker, No.10, No.8, I've even seen him play No.6. He has such a good understanding for a young player that he can play all these positions and not look like a square peg in a round hole. Ultimately I think he'll end up as one of these hybrid No.8/ No.10's that seem to becoming fat more popular in the modern game. Someone who can be the creative hub of the teams but still does their defensive work off the ball.

I'd be happy to see the club sign him, although I'm not sure he would be considered as a player in a priority position. Also like with João Neves, would the club really look to play two teenagers in two of the three midfield positions on a regular basis. While slightly less impactful having Doue as a Bruno replacement alongside Mainoo, rather than Neves as a Casemiro replacement deeper along Mainoo. I still don't see many managers who'd regularly have two teenagers start in the heart of their team.

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25 May 2024 13:28:24
Looks like a Wengeresque signing.

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25 May 2024 14:03:15
I'm not going to pretend I'd ever heard of him but looks a great prospect. The fact he can play on either side would be a huge plus, I like the fact we can mix it up with Garnacho in that regard whereas we feel completely stuck with Antony.

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25 May 2024 20:48:26
He’s the spit of Greenwood. Fantastic talent.

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26 May 2024 05:31:54
It would be nice if for once we actually get a player like him.

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24 May 2024 20:16:24
Whispers of it being Southgate or mckenna.

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24 May 2024 20:27:33
At one point Southgate was the bookies favourite, he’s now 14/ 1, the biggest price he has been for months, so not sure where you’re hearing your whispers but nobody else is hearing them today. The only rumours out there at the moment are McKenna, Poch or RDZ at a push.

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24 May 2024 20:33:00
Both backwards steps.

Be back to looking again in 18 months.

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24 May 2024 21:44:17
It makes a change from the loud noises other people are hearing.

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24 May 2024 21:46:27
McKenna.

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24 May 2024 21:47:38
Wouldn't make any sense to wait for the Euro to be over and then appoint a new manager. It has to happen sooner. I think they will go after Tuchel. Someone here said he's on Barca's list but they appointed Flick. I would rather see him than Southgate. McKenna could gain more experience meanwhile and become the next one.

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24 May 2024 23:09:34
I was hearing whispers that I’m one tasty snack who’s ripe for eating, but then the bus came and the weird auld fella just left me at the stop. What a tease.

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25 May 2024 00:17:01
McKenna is favourite on a few bookies sites.

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25 May 2024 00:21:44
I have feeling McKenna is noise and it will be Tuchel.

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25 May 2024 10:36:51
I think Mckenna will be encouraged to stay where he is to take over after Tuchel.

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25 May 2024 11:09:17
Much rather Poch than Tuchel.

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25 May 2024 12:00:37
I wouldn't be against a young up and coming manager like McKenna, he also knows the club well and would have less issues settling in than other younger up and coming managers. From that perspective if the club is going to go for that sort of young manager then McKenna is probably the best option.

Personally I think a manager like that should be the one after our next appointment. Let the club get settled under the new ownership, get the structure set up and in place, working to a high level and get the majority of the squad rebuild completed. Then once the club and the squad is more settled and working like clockwork then take a chance on a younger manager who can grow with the young squad and take that step up.

I suspect we will have 2-3 turbulent years ahead of us with a lot of growing pains and tension. Both from disappointed and frustrated fans and from players who will find themselves being pushed to the sidelines and ultimately out of the club. While we know the press will jump all over the club at every opportunity. That's a really tough environment for any young manager to handle and develop in.

In many way the job now is much harder and bigger than it was for Sir Alex when he joined in 1986.

Personally I'd have Thomas Frank as the top candidate of those who've been linked in the past couple of months. Great EPL experience, great character and ability to charm/ work the press, tactically intelligent and flexible, has helped many players develop and become too players (especially strikers/ forwards, Watkins, Toney, Mbeumo, which is good for the likes of Højlund, Garnacho and Amad in particular) and has experience of working in a structure similar to the one the club is trying to put in place.

He'd be a stabilising hand who could help keep the club getting results, embed the style the club wants, develop our younger players and handle the pressure and the press well while we rebuild. He also has just as much a chance of stepping up and becoming a manager capable of winning at the highest level as any of the younger exciting crop of managers like McKenna or Amorim.

That's why Frank would probably be my pick, even though I know he won't be the most popular due to him being more of a known quantity and coming from a less fashionable club. The general fanbase tends to lean towards lesser known and thus more exciting quantities. You see it all the time with fans preferring an player from a foreign league who they have seen once or twice over the player from a lower EPL club.

At the time most wanted Sancho and Antony over the likes of Mbeumo, Olise, Neto. Last summer we all know that if we tried to sign Cole Palmer from City for 40m like Chelsea did that most fans would have been against signing a player "not good enough for City".

Yet now would anyone really take Sancho or Antony over any of those more known options?

That's just the way the fanbase as a whole are. Personally I always prefer to go for the more known players from the EPL looking to step up. It doesn't always work, but I do feel it has a better success rate than most.

I also think that bringing in a manager like Frank is less likely to fail than a risk on a lesser known quantity.

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{Ed025's Note - i you want someone charming and who will flatter the pants off the press Shappy...you might as well appoint Bradley Walsh mate.. :)

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25 May 2024 12:55:34
Ed025, it's not the be all and end all. But at a club like United the ability to manage the press is very important.

Obviously there are other aspects as well. They have to be tactically intelligent, have the ability to develop and improve players, the ability to work within a certain club structure, and to get results in the EPL.

All things I think Frank has shown he is more than capable of.

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{Ed025's Note - i think hes at his level now with Brentford Shappy, but thats just my take mate..

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25 May 2024 14:41:31
Like the idea of Bradley Walsh he’d be good on mutv. Can already see a blankety blank chequebook quiz show.

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26 May 2024 08:18:58
Do you know who is an even more known quantity at the club and has experience of managing large clubs like Ajax and Man Utd, history of playing good football and winning silverware? Erik ten Hag.

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26 May 2024 10:38:06
I think the club need to back ten hag he didn’t really have a good transfer window last summer and quality in depth is rubbish when we have injuries to the starting 11 I hope he is given more time two trophies in two years isn’t bad be nice to build on it with the right transfers this summer.

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23 May 2024 21:06:12
I was told last year that Bruno was considering his future and was asked to give one more year.

Forgot who it was but someone on here shot me down for it.

It was true, the only difference being now that there is new people in place that are trying to persuade him to stay.

I've been told this year he has told the club if a reasonable offer comes in from a preferred destination, he would like to move on.

But money does talk so maybe they can persuade him to stay.

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23 May 2024 22:23:49
Anyone that ain’t commited regardless who they are get rid

Need people to want to be here and play.

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23 May 2024 23:12:52
He will still be here for a couple of years yet. He loves the club.

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24 May 2024 07:19:32
Get rid. Overrated and not an elite player. Stands out in United because many other players are so poor. Would Guardiola play him? Not a chance. Simply not good enough. Poor passer and flaky.

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24 May 2024 08:30:26
I dunno Jodler, could easily see him in the Bernado Silva role at City.
Not sure he’s captain material but the best we have avail and our most creative player. Until Florian Wirtz is available I say we stick!

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24 May 2024 09:33:56
Careful what you wish for. Remove Bruno and you take away 90% of this teams creativity.

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24 May 2024 09:33:57
Depends on how the new regime intend to play and where he fits in that vision. Also he is approaching 30 and would his wages be better spent on a younger player who is going to be part of a team challenging for titles in 3 to 5 years time. From a practical point of view getting his wages and a fee might make more sense than keeping him. I really like him as a player but if him leaving is part of a plan to move us forward I would accept it is best for the club.

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24 May 2024 10:40:27
Bruno is top class. A shame to get rid of someone with so much quality and who has dug us out time and time again.

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24 May 2024 11:06:16
Caolan I remember the Liverpool fans saying the same re couthino.
From a business perspective I can see the merits in cashing in now.
I agree with oakbark it very much depends on what the vision is and who is implementing it from a head coach perspective.
It will be a strategic decision not one based on emotion or sentiment.
There are strong arguments for keeping him but also for selling him imo. One of the more difficult conundrums as there are compelling reasons for both sides of the coin.

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24 May 2024 12:03:29
He has been our best player for a while now and as angelred said has dug us out time and time again but he is also our biggest asset and if we can get a huge fee for him then it has to be considered, his last interview he said if the club wants me I will be here, think a big changing of the guard is going to happen and would hate to see him run his contract down and go for free.

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24 May 2024 12:25:21
The deciding factor on whether Bruno stays or goes will be the amount of money on offer.

The guy is 29 and if the Saudi's were to offer £50-60 million plus for him, I'd imagine it would be very difficult to turn the money down.

The club need to sell players to raise funds, sometimes you struggle to get rid of those players. Along comes a good offer for a player you would be inclined to keep, but desperately need the funds to buy others.

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24 May 2024 14:26:35
I'd suggest people read the interview he has just done . We don't deserve bruno .

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24 May 2024 15:02:40
Deano like the majority of our fan base mate we seem to want to ridicule rather than support

Bruno is our best player and has been since he joined the club

How about the players that are always unavailable get the stick.

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24 May 2024 15:33:23
Bolger I'm not seeing get lots of stick.
If a good offer came in it would be considered i'm sure.
Lots of reasons to keep him lots of valid reasons as to why offers would be considered.

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24 May 2024 16:25:30
Agreed bolger 👍.

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24 May 2024 16:47:39
I for one would be delighted if Bruno stayed, I don't want him to go anywhere but if the club get a big offer for him they may accept.

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24 May 2024 16:57:36
Jodler, I think you are overrated and not an elite fan. :P.

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24 May 2024 17:56:56
Not sure why nowadays when you’re not a fan of a player and voice it, you are ridiculing.
Are people not allowed to say they don’t fancy him as a player? Do we have to blindly support now unless its certain players we’re all allowed to ridicule together?
Who decides who we’re allowed to “ridicule”?

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24 May 2024 20:15:42
Agreed Bolger.

I think Bruno is our only world class player and has been since he joined. He’d slot perfectly in to a Pep team and would have no problem being asked to take care of the ball better.

I don’t agree with the petulant side of his game, and he isn’t captain material, but there were no alternatives at the time so I understand it. He’s worked very hard to carry out the role and his work ethic cannot be questioned. Nor can the numbers he’s posted for us.

Despite how much I rate him, I can see the argument for him leaving if a Saudi level bid came in for him. It seems we could do with the money. But on the other hand you remove by far our most creative asset, in fact the most creative player in the Premier League based on chances created, and where do we go from there?

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25 May 2024 12:06:25
Players like Bruno, Shaw, Rashford etc should all be allowed to leave if significant offers come in for them. Ultimately I doubt any of them are going to be key players in our next title winning team. However, I wouldn't be actively looking to sell them this summer. There are far more players who need to leave first. Players not capable of playing at the level we need, or in the style bwe want to see.

You don't improve a squad by replacing your best/ better players, you do so by replacing your worst players. The aim should be that by the time we replace the like the likes of Bruno and Rashford they would be the amoungst the worst players in the squad.

However, if significant offers come in this summer then the club should accept them for all players bar Mainoo, Garnacho and Højlund. Who are the only three I see as being able to be key players in our next title winning squad. Everyone has a price and if matched shake their hand and wish them well with the rest of their career.

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26 May 2024 08:20:21
Not even sure how this is a debate. He’s consistently been our best player since he signed.

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26 May 2024 08:22:33
I think you have to add Dalot and Martinez to that list Shappy. We are a totally different side when Licha plays.

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23 May 2024 19:16:15
Deal completed, Alvaro Fernandez has signed today for Benfica on a 5 year deal.

Fee about 6m euros. Not massive but all contributions to transfer fund gratefully received.

A good move all around, don't think he would of had much opportunity at O. T. Whilst he had promise, Harry Amass has well overtaken him and I think is likely to get opportunities before Alvaro would of.

We hold buy back clause, matching fee rights and sell on clause. Pretty well covers everything.

Good luck to him.

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23 May 2024 20:01:00
Have . Not of 🙄.

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23 May 2024 21:46:50
Fizz

You guesting at the cafe or something? 🤣.

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23 May 2024 21:50:59
Great deal and keeps lines of communication open with Benfica. Neves and Silva would be great additions.

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24 May 2024 11:07:41
Sounds like a good deal to me to jimbob. Good future proofing by the sounds of it.

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26 May 2024 08:20:37
Good luck to him. Good move.

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22 May 2024 22:59:36
Talk of McKenna not going away in the press.

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23 May 2024 00:36:13
He really should take a vacation because next season he's going to be busy.

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23 May 2024 04:19:09
I sent a text to my cousins 2 lads no word -they know him pretty well and meet up during the year - He had offers last year from Palace and Spurs apparently sounded him out.

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23 May 2024 16:25:01
Ed002 are we interested in mckenna?

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{Ed002's Note - He is certainly an option and obviously knows the club well.}

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23 May 2024 19:08:09
The players didn’t like his coaching when he was there because he’d come from the academy
Proved those charlatans wrong.

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23 May 2024 19:38:06
If he moves he will end up at Chelsea or Brighton. Too early for him at united imo, different beast being a united manager.

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23 May 2024 20:03:24
Sky sports reporting McKenna s reps met Berrada and Wilcox last week.

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23 May 2024 20:08:27
Blackpool, I read that McKenna has his Ipswich players (not just older players) taking coaching courses in order to educate them and improve their tactical understanding. I’m not sure how common this is but I was quite impressed when I heard it.

With our squad being half made up of cabbage brains, I can see why they didn’t like him.

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23 May 2024 20:12:04
Sky reporting talks took place.

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23 May 2024 20:48:17
Ed02 - do you think he'd be a good appointment? Big step up but has earned a lot of praise with what he's done with Ipswich.

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{Ed002's Note - There is a risk with appointment.}

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23 May 2024 22:17:50
A risk the club ruins another manager? 🤪.

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24 May 2024 05:22:10
Brighton.

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22 May 2024 16:37:00
Dunno how reliable di Marzio is but he's saying ten hag is set to leave the club.

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22 May 2024 17:19:04
Just seen the same. And as part of the same rumour it says United have already agreed terms with De Zerbi to take over. It says United agreed a fee with Brighton to let him go but to keep it quiet on where he is going.

Could be a load of rubbish. Hope so, don’t fancy De Zerbi.

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22 May 2024 17:25:56
Hope not. I’m still not convinced by De Zerbi. That said, it would still be a step up on Ten Haag.

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22 May 2024 17:48:48
Fall guy, I don’t know what you read but the DiMarzio report doesn’t state that.

It says they’ve spoken to McKenna, will speak to poch and there’s interest in di Zerbi but no contact.

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22 May 2024 17:54:47
De Zerbi would be a great choice, interesting if true.

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22 May 2024 17:55:59
A more appropriate headline would be "Italian Journalist states something that's been said all year to unknown outlet without confirming his source".

Until confirmed by the club, I'm not reading into anything.

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22 May 2024 18:31:57
BBC reporting it too but I'll keep the champagne on ice until its confirmed by the club over the next couple of weeks.

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22 May 2024 18:47:59
Sorry, it wasn’t part of the same rumour. The de zerbi part was from someone else, can’t remember who now. Even said the compensation for him was £4.3m.

Like I said it could be a load of rubbish. But the ETH leaving part seems to be more accurate.

I’m hoping it’s Poch coming in.

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22 May 2024 20:29:43
Whatever we decide we need to get it done and move on. Lots of players to sell, new faces need brought in and we still haven’t got the director of football sorted. We need to have all our ducks in a row so we can have a good season and hit the ground running next year. For 2 many summers now we’ve been lagging behind, disorganised and hesitant…let’s hope this year sets the tone in a good way.

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22 May 2024 20:46:22
That should have said good pre season so we hit the ground running next year. We will especially need that if we have a new manager, with new ideas and tactics.

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22 May 2024 22:56:11
Whatever the decision it needs to made quickly and the preferred candidate appointed within the week.

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23 May 2024 04:15:47
i read elsewhere it is Napoli who paid that 4 million for De Zerbi. all rumours I guess.

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23 May 2024 08:16:57
I think Ineos have done the sensible thing here. Taken their time, assessed the team’s performances, tactics and training methods, mood amongst staff and players, and come to a conclusion they feel is right for the club. Also, if ten Hag was staying, they’d have announced it by now.

They will see and know far more than we do from the outside. And if Ed2 says Erik is not the right man to take us forward, I respect that knowledge too and think it’s time.

Not sure who I’d go for as his replacement still though. The next few weeks will be super interesting.

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