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22 Jan 2025 08:56:40
Garnacho to napoli looking a real possibility now. Very much doubt we would sell to Chelsea.
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22 Jan 2025 10:37:03
If it does happen, we need to be holding out for at least 70 mill, after what we paid for Hoijlund maybe more. Personally I hope it doesn't, as for me he is far down the list of players that add no value to the team. Equally though I understand we need money in to facilitate Amorims team build and unfortunately others aren't seeing value in Rashford.
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22 Jan 2025 10:50:06
Not sure how I feel about this. Disappointing for me IMO. Could be a romantic view but I really think he has enough about him to crack on. But if it's what RA wants, well then who am I to argue.
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22 Jan 2025 11:37:34
It is dissapointing from the perspective of him being a youngster that we have nurtured all be it we brought him in from Athletico. Also, the talent is there and we have seen this sporadically over the past 18 months. However, there is also a view that like Rashford he is more of a highlights reel player and the overall impact in the game is not as great. Add this to the thought that he does not fit the 343 system and it might be right to maximise his value and sell.
Personally would prefer that be to Napoli than Chelsea and it sounds like he is open/ keen on that move. If we can get anything close to £50/ 55m the it will be too good to turn down, earlier in the window I had viewed him more £40m but with some of the sales including Kvaratskhelia from Napoli likely it will need to be more for us to sell.
It will be interesting what we do if he leaves, Antony already gone on loan and Rashford likely by end of the window. Hopefully there are some deals being worked on for incomings whether on loan or permanent.
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22 Jan 2025 12:44:27
He really isn’t that good, £50m in full profit will allow us to buy 2 or 3 players that improve the squad, can see why the club are open to it. Amorim dropped Garna and Rashford for the derby to give them a kick
Up the arse and both of them have shown they aren’t up for the fight.
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22 Jan 2025 13:41:30
Napoli will not pay that much. I can't see us getting more than £50m anywhere at this time. If Amorim wants wing backs rather than wings then maybe he's not the right profile however talented he may or may not be.
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22 Jan 2025 13:44:07
Funny how 12 months ago he was our future now because we can get a couple of new shiny players. he's not that good! i'm sure with the clubs track record the new faces will be aces.
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22 Jan 2025 14:02:27
Not a good sign, selling a HG player with a lot of potential whilst struggling to remove a player on massive wages that we want rid of doesn't sit well. I read into this, the club as desperate for cash.
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22 Jan 2025 19:34:33
I'm still on the fence over whether we should sell Garnacho. However, if we do we need to be realistic. Anything around 50m would be a great deal in the current market.
We are seeing tighter financial regulations along with clubs feeling the impact of the pandemic leading to more sensible decisions, combine to see fees dropping around Europe. It will be quite a while before we see players going for north of 100m again.
Garnacho is young and talented, a player with potential. Yet if we are honest not many talented young players leave a club like Manchester United to go on and become a top top player.
While Napoli see Garnacho as a potential replacement for Kvaratskhelia, who himself is only 23 but must be considered amongst the very best LW players in the world right now. A genuine world class talent. A player who has just been sold to PSG for a reported 70m euros which equates to around 59m pounds.
If Kvaratskhelia is worth 59m, then we cannot be valuing Garnacho much above 50m, he isn't at the same level and it is questionable if he has the ability to reach the same level. Even if he does he's likely years away from getting to that level.
There is no point comparing what we have paid for players as some sort of barometer as to what we should expect to get for him.
50m for a player we got for practically nothing, who has potential, but has also shown some worrying signs of mental fragility at times, while also not having a natural position in the team so would require some adapting to become a regular player is actually a great deal.
Right now he isn't a starter, and there is no guarantee that he will ever become a starter. If his sale enables us to buy 2 or even 3 starters then it starts to become a very logical decision.
Look at the impact Amad is having this season. That's the kind of impact a player who is well suited can have on the team.
Would you swap Garnacho for another three players who can match the impact of Amad?
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22 Jan 2025 20:09:55
You should bite someone's hand off for 50 million imo. Very average player maybe worth about 25mil I'd say.
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22 Jan 2025 21:33:34
Maybe something like £55m + incentives to give us a few quid further down the road? I do like him, he’s very direct and is a great impact sub when opposition is flagging. But if there is a target or two who would fit into this side immediately it should be done IMO.
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22 Jan 2025 21:55:06
Spenno, name me a club that would pay 55m+ for Garnacho over Kvaratskhelia for 59m?
One is a player with potential, the other a genuine world class player who is still only 23.
That's like paying the same for a pile of car parts and a Ferrari.
One has the potential to be a Ferrari, but the other already IS a Ferrari.
If Kvaratskhelia is worth 59m in the current market, than Garnacho is worth around 45m at most. If we get more than that then we've done well in the current market.
To be honest if we want the maximum price then it'll have to be Chelsea we sell to as EPL clubs have significantly stronger finances and are about the only clubs that can afford to over pay for players.
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20 Jan 2025 13:11:03
I'm all for investing in youth, but blimey, we are going for it.
Courtesy of the money machine -
Dorgu would cost Man Utd close to £30m
Latest from Sky in Italy:
Lecce would want at least £25.4m-£29.6m (€30m-€35m) for 2-year-old full-bacl Patrick Dorgu in the January window.
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20 Jan 2025 14:08:38
They really are starting young if he is 2. The world's most expensive toddler.
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20 Jan 2025 14:31:37
Waiting 16 years until he is allowed to join is ridiculous!
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20 Jan 2025 16:07:36
Good at dribbling apparently.
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20 Jan 2025 18:02:14
Will give Bruno a run for his money with tantrums.
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20 Jan 2025 11:12:50
Antony loan agreed and we are in talks with leave for LWB Patrick dorgu. Hopefully it's a deal for now and we aren't pre signing him for the summer. We are poor in the wide areas and short of options so a move like this makes sense. Any of the Ed's have a profile on the player? Thanks.
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20 Jan 2025 11:45:14
That should read lecce not leave. Apologies.
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20 Jan 2025 11:09:24
Don't bite my head off. but is there a world where Amorim is gone in the summer? I'm not blaming him for where we are, but we have seen that Ratcliffe has an itchy trigger finger and if results and performances stay the same do we think he will pull it? For the record I'm against such a move but if we have seen anything since Ineos came in, it's that you can't predict what they are going to do! '.
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20 Jan 2025 13:04:09
You only have to look at Nice and the Galtier and Favre sackings to see that it is possible.
Personally I don’t think that is the right thing to do with United who need stability and the players to understand they cannot throw another manager under the bus.
Get players the manager wants in the summer and judge him on the progress made in the 2025/ 26 season.
Personally I hope he starts giving a run out for the academy players between now and the end of the year with space from a number of players moving on this month.
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20 Jan 2025 15:07:52
I don’t quite understand why we brought in a manager who plays a certain style of football if the club’s management had no intention of signing at least one or two players who are capable of playing said style of football.
I quite like Amorim and think he will come good if properly backed, but if results don’t improve soon (which I don’t think they will if we don’t bring in a few signings this window), I do think that there’s a very real possibility of him being gone before the end of the season.
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19 Jan 2025 08:25:17
Looks like antonty will be going on loan to betis.
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19 Jan 2025 09:16:23
Fingers crossed with an obligation to buy! Simon Stone (T1) tweeted saying they were advancing well so hopefully soon.
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19 Jan 2025 10:03:26
Surely he has to go down as our absolute worst transfer of all time?
He looked talented and promising for Ajax, but we absolutely had our pants pulled down on the price. Apparently Bayern Munich were interested in him for around 35m which is around what we valued him at as well. The fact that someone at the club gave the green light to pay 85m a whopping 50m more than we valued him at not only needs firing but surely investigating for fraud or embezzlement. That surely cannot be a completely legitimate deal.
They literally agreed to pay two and a half times as much as they thought he was worth.
On the pitch he's been such a disappointment, literally you could go to 15 or 16 Championship clubs and sign a better winger from them.
Clearly he needed the very structured team play that Ajax produce along with being in the best team in the league which is filled with mostly second rate teams for him to look good.
The moment he played in a league where you have a lot of quality players across the league, in a team that doesn't dominate, and with players around him who cannot carry him or cover for his weaknesses he has been absolutely abysmal.
Yes he works hard off the ball, but that's about all you can say as a positive for him. Which let's be honest, working hard for the team should be a minimal expectation not something to be given a pat on the back for.
On the ball he is slow and indecisive, he has no end product, he is quick enough over short distances but lacks real pace, especially over longer distances, he doesn't have any clever skills (other than being a crap ballerina), he has no right foot to speak of, and he is easily brushed off the ball.
Antony along with Sancho and maybe Zirkzee (we'll see) should stand as a warning about signing players from teams that have a very distinct identity and playing style/ system. It creates a side that is greater than the sum of its parts, making individual players look far better than they actually are.
Unless you play in more or less exactly the same way then you run the risk of them not being able to bring that level of form from their current team to your side.
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19 Jan 2025 19:02:37
Think we should insist on a different clause, that they take Onana for free or the deal’s off! Rather have friggin Captain Birdseye in goal!
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20 Jan 2025 04:28:31
For me he is the worst buy with sanchez and sancho. all 3 were pretty awful. Hope he goes and hope rash goes as it looks like no way to repair things. Cas needs to go too as he is hardly playing now any minutes. Crazy how we paid that kind of money for these players.
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21 Jan 2025 05:46:51
Okay so label me confused. We should steer away from players from a team that play a distinct style but we want players that can play a distinct style. How will we know if they can play RA style if they are not already?
Seems an ongoing risk to me.
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18 Jan 2025 14:14:18
Rumours of malacia leaving, surely then someone has to come in then. Wb is our weakest position and letting him go regardless of his ability leaves us worse off. Maybe mendes?
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18 Jan 2025 15:11:50
Maybe amass can take his place and finally be given a game. Supposedly has good potential may save us some money in the lomg run.
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18 Jan 2025 16:05:01
If anyone we might even remotely need leaves in January I’ll eat my hat. Especially any left-sided player.
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18 Jan 2025 18:01:49
Tim
The whole Mendes fantasy comes from his reps wanting better terms from PSG, as supported by the impending signing of a new contract on better terms.
He hasn't once even mentioned the mooted interest from United, let alone declared any will to join RA at United.
I fully believe that, whether or not Malacia leaves, we must try to get Alvaro. He knows the club, he knows most of the players, he's thrived in the Portuguese football culture from which the core elements of work and press are being coached into our players by RA, he's a good age with a decent attitude, and he ticks just about every jeffing box.
Beyond Alvaro, who else is available for a reasonable price?
Davies and Mendes are staying put. Kerkez wants Liverpool. Ait-Nouri will be expensive.
Here's how I see it - 4 options.
● We raise the £16m odd to buy Alvaro back, provided that he so wishes.
● Pay over the odds for Ait-Nouri who is subject to a 50% sell on fee for his previous club Angers, meaning Wolves will not be haggled.
● We take a ridiculous punt on Amass who, imo, isn't at all ready or equipped enough for the role.
● We get a free agent in, someone like (I can't believe I'm saying it 😱🤣😱🤣😱🤣😱🤣) Brandon Williams.
We are where we are, stuck in mud.
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18 Jan 2025 20:02:46
Chilwell loan?
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18 Jan 2025 20:09:19
Not a bad shout spenno.
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18 Jan 2025 20:55:38
Chilwell spends as much time as shaw on the treatment table, not sure that makes much sense.
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18 Jan 2025 21:29:48
Chilwell will be able to keep Shaw company in the treatment room.
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19 Jan 2025 09:22:53
Ork, I don't think the the Mendes story is that unbelievable.
PSG are looking to add more French players to their ranks and Theo Hernandez is supposed of big interest. That shouldn't leave room for Mendes. He's also already played under Amorim at sporting and the pair are said to have a good relationship.
Either that or Alvaro comes back! Please god no to Brandon Williams.
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19 Jan 2025 10:27:58
There was rumours of Amass being a player the club thought could breakthrough this year, but after the preseason tour they felt he was 4-5 months away from being ready physically. They apparently created a specialised training regime for him to "bulk up" and build up his strength so that he is physically capable of competing in senior football.
Now obviously that was put in place under EtH, and with the new manager comes a completely new system. He'd be looking to play as a wingback now and not a fullback. Apparently part of the clubs thinking in selling Alvaro Fernandez was that they felt he was more suited to being a wingback than a fullback. While Amass was considered the better prospect as a fullback and they didn't want to block his pathway.
If they still think Amass is the better fullback and Fernandez the better wingback then hindsight is a bit of a kick in the balls this time round.
Yet if the original plan is coming along then Amass should be physically ready to start competing around now or over the next month or so.
Maybe the club wants to look at him and give him some opportunities.
It's also been a little quite on Shaw, I don't know when he is expected back (not that it really matters as he's always a day away from his next injury) .
We have also agreed a deal for Diego Leon to join in the summer, he is highly rated and is a bit of a physical freak for his age. Already having a broadband frame and being quite muscular and strong despite still being 17. He has also been playing senior football for the past 6-7 months and competing physically.
Supposedly the thinking is that he'll be ready pretty soon to start playing in the senior team. With them possibly giving him a little time in the academy just to help him settle and acclimatise to English football. He is one whose name is pencilled in for the pre-season tour.
So given how poor Malacia has been (understandably given how long he's been out injured) and that he was always more of a fullback than a wingback if the club can find a move for him then getting him off the books sooner rather than later makes sense.
The reality is that he is behind Shaw, Dalot and Mazraoui at LWB.
Given that we have signed Diego Leon and we have Amass I cannot see us signing another two LWB's. So re-signing Alvaro Fernandez only makes sense if we see him as the best option available to be our first choice LWB for the next 5-8 years. If not then despite the financial benefits of signing him, he is best left playing in Portugal and eventually getting a big money move to another club and us receiving the sizable sell on fee we would be due.
Nuno Mendes on paper looks like the best possible fit, whether our name has been linked is genuine or more to advance a new deal with PSG or to flush out other interested buyers who knows. But given his contract situation of he hasn't signed a new deal by the summer he could be a great option available for a reasonable fee.
If not then it looks quite likely that Wolves will be relegated, even if that doesn't happen they are in a bit of a financial pickle and have a history of selling players at reasonable fees (Jota, Neto, Kilman etc) . Meaning we could move for Rayan Aït-Nouri who would also be a fantastic choice at LWB, he's young with a lot of potential but has a good amount of experience (including in the EPL), is much stronger attacking than defending, which is what you need from a wingback, he has played wingback and excelled in that position in this league. He has also shown he can play as a LB meaning that in the future if we changed to a back four system he could still fit with those tactics.
For me it should be one of Nuno Mendes or Aït-Nouri, both are players who will be available in the summer rather than now. So while it will be tough to watch at times, it might be better to wait until then to sign the right player for the next 5 years than the wrong one just to cover the next 6 months.
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19 Jan 2025 10:48:51
James
You bought the BS mate.
The principle behind PSGs desire to fill their ranks with French-born players stems more from their academy structure, but of course that doesn't serve to bait the clicks so well, so the hacks of the media world have impressed their own narrative. Is there a statement from PSG anywhere? No, so there's nothing.
Theo Hernandez fits snugly into that narrative, but his name is only being juggled because Mendes' team have made it so. Is there a statement or quote from PSG or Theo himself? No, so there's nothing.
Has Mendes, Amorim, United or PSG said anything concrete about the suggested interest? No, so there's nothing.
I'm just not buying the BS mate.
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19 Jan 2025 13:38:05
Re: Chilwell I think we need to stop obsessing over past injury troubles in a loan scenario. If he comes in and is never fit then goodbye 5 months later. If he comes in and smashes it and improves our options then all good surely?
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20 Jan 2025 08:14:49
Ork, clubs don't typically comment publicly on their transfer intentions because it weakens their position of negotiation.
You will typically only hear names in the public domain after possibilities have been explored between club officials, agents or third parties, or as you correctly pointed out, agents spreading fluff to generate attention on their clients.
I do see PSG wanting to adopt an alternative approach as their Btech Galacticos project hasn't worked outside of France and with French footballs financial situation being perilous, it makes sense to pivot from their approach.
There may be a degree of desire based bias behind me believing there is something to the Mendes interest.
Amass isn't ready, Malacia isn't at that stage where he can compete, he may not get back (or ever was at IMO) the required level, Shaw is perpetually injured but should be back in the next few weeks (but at what level) . Dalot isn't a LB and the claim he can play there should be tossed out the window with the past season being used as evidence to that case. I'd rather Mazroui play LB but he has been exceptional at RB so
While we have signed Diego Leon, there needs to be more in that position. We can't rely on a 17Yo who has less than a year of senior exp despite how physically ready he may seem.
The club has likely explored options for first team players in the LWB position. Fingers crossed we see a signing either in January or the Summer.
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13 Jan 2025 21:34:40
Looks like Nkunku could be on his way out of Chelsea with PSG or Chelsea interested. With the Sancho deal in the summer and potentially good relations between the clubs is it worth looking at a loan to buy option for him?
I think he could work well in our number 10 positions.
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13 Jan 2025 22:51:22
Nice company for Mount and Shaw on the treatment table?
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14 Jan 2025 09:04:51
On his way out of Chelsea but Chelsea are interested? How does that work lol?
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14 Jan 2025 09:08:33
With Chelsea anything is possible Fizz! I meant to say Bayern.
Had not considered he was that much of a health risk Eric, you are right though looks to have had a few issues.
I do like him as a player and think could fit, maybe for the money there are other alternatives out there.
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14 Jan 2025 10:39:18
Fair shout re Chelsea Brad LOL.
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14 Jan 2025 13:33:21
Love it Brad.
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13 Jan 2025 17:59:47
Possibility that Garnacho might be heading to Napoli. Well there's interest in him anyway. Whether they make a bid or can get close to agreeing a fee is another matter.
Can't see the club letting garnacho and rashford leave in the same window.
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13 Jan 2025 19:10:27
Probably just paper talk but selling Rashford, Garnacho and Casemiro and potentially Malacia, Eriksen and Antony.
Would be a huge PSR boost and allow Amorim to make significant changes.
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13 Jan 2025 19:31:20
I agree it would free up cash. But it’s difficult to get good players in January without over spending. Could end up with a lack of numbers.
But as you’ve said, it’s all likely paper talk and nobody will end up leaving.
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13 Jan 2025 21:05:53
Of that list only Garnacho should stay. Unfortunately he is the one most likely to make the biggest impact on PSR.
I think that he will end up staying and we move Rashford (loan fee and salary) and Casemiro (sale fee and wages) giving us a small hit.
I think that Amorim will see develpment potential in Garnacho and will want at least the rest of the season with him.
It will be loans in if anything, LWB and Striker. We will have to make do for the rest of the season.
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13 Jan 2025 22:18:07
I'm on the fence with the idea of selling Garnacho.
On one hand I'm loathed to sell a talented young academy graduate who looks like he has the talent to become a top player. For me giving academy players a chance and helping them become top players is a big part of the clubs identity and sets us apart from most other top clubs. It would be a transfer that feels opposed to what the club should be about.
However, on the other hand it is a deal that could make a lot of sense. I like Garnacho, but currently he isn't a natural fit for any of the roles in Amorim's system. While there have been more than one rumour about a lack of professionalism or questionable attitude from Garnacho. Talent alone will not carry him to the top, you need to have the work rate and the right attitude/ mentality. Therefore, selling a young player who isn't a natural fit in the team, and who might struggle to realise his potential due to his attitude/ mentality for a large fee (all of which will be considered profit which important for PSR) that can be used to bring in a top class player who is suited to how this team will look to play under the new manager makes a lot of sense.
In an ideal world we'd keep Garnacho and he will continue to improve and develop (he has shown glimpses in recent games of taking on board the managers instructions) and we offload other players who are contributing less. But the reality is that this isn't an ideal world, and Garnacho might have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Which will be a crying shame, but maybe a necessity.
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13 Jan 2025 22:36:17
I read somewhere that the reports of United having no cash due to PSR aren’t accurate and there is money to spend if needed. Don’t know how true that is.
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13 Jan 2025 22:52:59
Selling Garnacho would be stupid. He’s quality and will only get better. A replacement would cost more than we’d get and be on more wages!
Ed0002 is this genuine news that they want to sell him?
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{Ed025's Note - ED002 will not be answering you anytime soon mate..
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14 Jan 2025 05:27:00
I'm seeing figures of around 40 million for Garnacho. I know that is 100% profit but it would be ludicrous to sell him for that low.
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14 Jan 2025 09:21:39
The article I read, and take it with a huge pinch of salt, said that Napoli were looking to pay around £40m but United want £60-£65m.
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15 Jan 2025 06:58:43
we would not sell for under 60 mill. Ignore the noise.
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18 Jan 2025 17:29:45
Ed025 thanks. Is he not around anymore? I’ve not been around since pre season if anything has happened.
Do you know if this is genuine or just nonsense? Surely they can’t be looking at selling Garnacho or Mainoo?
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{Ed025's Note - sadly LEE ED002 passed away just before Christmas mate, i cant see them 2 going anywhere now mate because you were within the PSR regulations it may change in the summer but i would hope not..
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13 Jan 2025 17:37:10
looks like rash and cas deals will get done. its a great outcome for the club if they can just do that in this window.
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13 Jan 2025 18:34:50
Agreed.
And then Eriksen, Lindelof, Shaw and Antony in the summer.
The Amorim rebuild is alive.
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13 Jan 2025 18:53:18
Is that rumour or inside info Ahmad?
Great news if we can. If Rashford goes, we 100% need to be looking at a forward.
We need goals in this team.
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13 Jan 2025 22:21:48
I wondered if the use of Collyer over the weekend was a hint that he'd be used more over the rest of the season and that other midfielders could well be on their way out.
While I think Casemiro still currently offers more than Collyer, he is a declining player on a massive wage who isn't first choice anymore. He should be allowed to move on and spend the final few years of his career playing most weeks rather than warming our bench. While Collyer will likely never reach the levels Casemiro managed, he is probably more suited to how we are looking to play under Amorim, and he is definitely on the upward trajectory.
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14 Jan 2025 06:34:25
Collyer did a decent job on Sunday, he should be used more for the rest of the season to see how he progresses.
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13 Jan 2025 09:06:58
I really hope all this paper talk of Mainoo and Garnacho being up for sale is rubbish. I think these are the players we should be keeping as we rebuild a young side. Always thought Garnacho worked hard and applied himself, he must be working in training too having played in our last two games.
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13 Jan 2025 10:27:12
The mainoo story is 100 percent rubbish. Not sure on garnacho though. He could make way.
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13 Jan 2025 11:41:41
Mainoo contract is until 2027 with a 1 year extension available to 2028. It'll be sorted this year, no rush. Just media BS.
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13 Jan 2025 15:38:47
Plus, I am sure Kobbie and his agent are looking for a decent pay raise in the interim, which will no doubt be forthcoming if we can get rid of Rashford and Casemiro. He's not going to be held to £20k a week until 2027. Given his potential it would take upwards of £75m for the club to sell him.
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14 Jan 2025 16:04:30
KM is signed til 2030.
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