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11 Jul 2020 23:36:57
Anything to the fresh Chiesa links coming out of Italy? Or are we *gasp* playing the transfer game to not delay forever and then just pay what Dortmund want for Sancho?

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12 Jul 2020 11:31:07
If your read what ED002 wrote about both players, it would give you an insight to what is happening. Sancho= overpriced, Chiesa= cheaper alternative who is still a very good player and due to the price etc a better option.

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12 Jul 2020 13:08:56
Think Sancho will sign for us. Possibly as only signing though given £100m price being banded about. Chiesa and Dembele will be linked and certainly in the formers case he looks a quality player though Ed noting he’d prefer to stay in Italy.

I appreciate signing anyone may be dependent on achieving Champions League qualification next season though we look in a stronger position for that at the moment.

Chelsea have already invested well and look to be prioritising Havertz so don’t see Sancho heading there. Real, Barca, Juve, Liverpool all look to either have no money or already prioritised other players. Pep’s effectively stated City wouldn’t be back in for him and would presumably target Ferran Torres instead. I think, albeit through clearly Red White and Black tinted specs, that just leaves United in the frame if Sancho moves anywhere.

But we’ve been here before haven’t we!

We need to strengthen defence and not least reduce our wage bill by shifting Sanchez, Smalling, Rojo, Lingard, Mata who’ll likely not play for us again. Happily add Pereira and Jones to that list too. IF we sign a big hitter like Sancho as RW though I can’t see us being in for Grealish, Van de Beek, a CB, a LB or others unless we move those players on first.

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12 Jul 2020 13:49:20
Halesini you should note what ed002 said yesterday. It may very well happen with Chiesa if we can convince him to move to dreary Manchester.

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12 Jul 2020 15:41:24
Halesini
Do you really think chelsea have bought well? Added 2 attacking players to a lot of other attacking players .
Gk back 4 and cm looks the issue to me .

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12 Jul 2020 16:30:33
Jred

I was thinking the same, and Werner is going to want CL football, the pressure is on them to get it now, possibly going to need a win at Anfield, interesting couple of weeks ahead.

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12 Jul 2020 21:54:58
Chelsea like a few teams seem to need a CB and LB.
Offensively they’ve bought / look to be buying well.
Fascinating to see what happens if the ink isn’t dry though and there’s no Champions League. Especially re Havertz.

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11 Jul 2020 00:14:11
Listening on one of these independent fan channels and an "in the know" mentioned the offer for Angel Gomes is still on the table? I'd find it bit embarrassing for a club of uniteds stature to do that. But apparently he would sign if certain players are shipped out. Any truth in this?

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11 Jul 2020 07:31:21
I can't say if anyone knows that for sure, but it does make a certain amount of sense.

Angel Gomes wants to play football, he plays on either wing or at No.10, so currently his competition for places are Rashford and James for LW, Greenwood and Mata for RW and Bruno, Lingard and Andreas Pereira for No.10.

7 players ahead of him fighting it out for 3 places. His pathway if pretty blocked. If Mata, Lingard and Andreas Pereira were to leave then Gomes chances of starting some matches increases dramatically.

Personally I think the best position for Gomes to play in the EPL especially early in his career while he is learning and developing would be LW. He is small in stature and going up against a full back rather than a CB will be easier for him. He is right footed but isn't a great crosser so playing on the left then cutting in and shooting or playing a through ball or a cut back would be the best way to play him.

Unfortunately we have Rashford as first choice on the LW, with James as back up. So I don't see many chances for a game for him at our club in that position.

Bruno will be first choice at No.10 and he will play more or less every game he is fit for. While the club are looking at players like Grealish who would not only jump ahead of Gomes at No.10 but on the left too.

Which leaves RW, Greenwood is doing an excellent job of thing that position down. While James has done a good job there particularly at the start of the season. While the club are looking to bring in Sancho or someone else for RW and have made that their number one priority.

So for Gomes I don't see a way into the team for him unless the club fails to sign player for the two primary positions they are looking for AND the club moves on Mata, Lingard and Pereira. That's a lot of things that need to fall in place to give Gomes an opening.

While from the club's perspective it makes a lot of sense to keep the contract offer open, Gomes on a three year deal would be a club asset worth millions. Gomes joining another club on a free will only get the club a small compensation fee.

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11 Jul 2020 08:37:18
Why is it embarrassing, the kid has been at the club since he was 6 and there have never been any questions about his attitude or ability in the academy years.

He didn't sign the contract because there is no clear pathway for him to develop in the first team, if that situation changes it makes sense for a possible reconciliation.

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11 Jul 2020 09:11:06
If there is then that contract needs to be removed ASAP. Under 18 year old trying to pull the strings? He’s nothing but a disappointment in my opinion and he hasn’t taken his chance. Simple. Get rid.

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11 Jul 2020 11:56:03
If he was that good and was ready ole would have given him games,

If he wants first team football he will need to get it elsewhere.

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11 Jul 2020 12:43:10
I don't know what other people see in him, to me He is not good enough, plain and simple and same goes for Chong too, they are not good enough in my opinion, now Laird, the right back yes I do like him a lot and He is almost ready, thing is we have Bissaka there already but everytime I have seen Him play in the first team he has done well, can't say the same about Gomes.

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11 Jul 2020 18:22:14
Who's he training with now?

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11 Jul 2020 19:49:51
You also didn't know what people saw in Bruno Fernandes Reman 😉.

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11 Jul 2020 22:32:18
We have no idea how good he or Chong are at the next step up - We have hardly seen them. We don’t train or play with them so cannot judge. Plus we are not qualified coaches. If the club think he’s good enough for a contract and he wants to sign it then cool. If not, no need for any bad feeling, snipey comments or histrionics; he’ll go somewhere else and play. His life, he can do what he wants with it.

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12 Jul 2020 13:20:48
Agree Eric. He has done great at youth levels. He has had very few opportunities really. He does not feel he has a future here despite the huge contract offer the club made.
He will assess his options i'm sure he will have plenty and pick the one he believes is best for him.
I respect him for not just taking the 30k a week offer if he feels he won't play enough.

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08 Jul 2020 11:42:49
Hi Ed, was just wondering whether a concrete offer has been put forward to dortmund for sancho and whether the lines of communication between the clubs is open?

Many thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to blow by blow account but the clubs are a long way apart in terms of the finances and the agent fees.}

08 Jul 2020 13:59:04
I'd imagine Dortmund would be more interested in a cash offer rather than an exchange of building materials for Sancho.

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08 Jul 2020 14:36:01
Nice shappy.

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08 Jul 2020 15:01:55
Would give them something to build for the future with 🙄.

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08 Jul 2020 17:45:15
They have solid foundations deano.

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08 Jul 2020 20:37:15
Did I miss a new sponsor announcement?
Official building partner?

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08 Jul 2020 22:34:41
Thanks Ed 👍.

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10 Jul 2020 18:43:43
Can’t see it happening, it would be a steel at that price, but they’d block it.

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07 Jul 2020 18:00:54
Apparently were linked to Messi now. He's going to have a tough time knocking Greenwood off the RW position if he comes.

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07 Jul 2020 16:16:05
Dean Hendersons contract expires on June 2022 surely we will bring him back next year with some sort of road map that he is the future and he has that year to prove he is better than De Gea?
What we don't factor in is the pressure of being our No 1 as every mistake is critiqued like no other! He is only 22 but I think we run a risk of losing him if we don't prove to him he has a future! I think a year back here fighting it out with DDG would be beneficial to him!

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07 Jul 2020 16:27:01
Not if he's sat in the bench. Also, it's not much use if de Gea sits on the bench for £350k a week either. I think one has to go but there are only a limited number of clubs who will take de Gea on that money.

Imagine if Real Madrid came in for Henderson next year. that would cause a stir.

Ed002, I think you said Madrid aren't too happy with Courtois. Are they interested in de Gea and do you think there is a possibility they could move for Henderson?

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{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have no interest in him at this time.}

07 Jul 2020 16:48:28
Not great either if DDG is on the pitch making more mistakes getting 350k a week?

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08 Jul 2020 06:19:59
David being currently dissed and taken as a liability, is a big joke after all he did in “carrying” United post-Fergie era. Read Schmeichel’s view about this on the official United page. And that’s Peter speaking with experience and expertise. I am not saying we should not keep or ready Henderson, but we should also not dismiss De Gea in terms of what he can still offer.

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08 Jul 2020 09:56:54
Henderson is a promising keeper, but he is not at DDGs level by any means yet. If he patient, he will replace him. He needs a loan move never year to a bigger club, with more pressure on him.

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07 Jul 2020 15:36:21
Hi Ed002, appreciate this is the MUFC page but seeing as he is one of our targets - are any clubs other than us showing an interest in Grealish? Will Villa's valuation of the player change dependent on whether they manage to stay in the Premier League or does it not really work like that?

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{Ed002's Note - Jack Grealish (CM/AM) remains viable for Manchester United as he can play on the left and in a more attacking role - Aston Villa will need to let him go if relegated and have an FFP issue that could manifest itself as early as this coming summer - MU may well look to exploit that as he offers something different to Bruno Fernandes and other options are off the table at present. Whilst Grealish will certainly leave if AV are relegated, they may not be looking to slash his fee accordingly. There has been interest from Spurs but that will have gone now - they have money issues and would never meet the asking price in any case.}

07 Jul 2020 20:09:07
Ed002, would Utd have to pay over the odds for Grealish then?

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{Ed002's Note - Aston Villa will want a heft amount.}

09 Jul 2020 15:20:50
Grealish has been poor since the restart. Tonight he gets a chance to show his potential suitors what he can do directly.

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12 Jul 2020 13:37:33
From what I have seen of Grealish over last few weeks I do not think he is of the level that will improve our team. In my opinion if he was good enough for United he would already have played for England.

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06 Jul 2020 23:42:08
Hi Ed. Are you aware of any strikers United are looking at? Everyone knows we are looking at Sancho but I don't think another winger is what we need. I personally don't feel Marital is the consistent 25/30 goal a season striker that we need. I love Rashford and Greenwood but still need a few seasons to improve.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what has previously been said.}

07 Jul 2020 08:44:51
It's funny how the target number of goals our strikers need to score always goes up with the number they actually score.

"Martial isn't a 20 goal a season striker"

Martial scored 20 goals.

"Martial isn't a 25 goal a season striker".

I disagree, Martial has been out injured for a total of two months this season, he has 20 goals in 34 starts this season. We have played 42 games so far, have 5 league games left, plus a few cup games.

So that's 8 games missed through injury, and at least another 8 games left to play. I think Martial would have every chance of scoring another 5-10 goals in an extra 16 games.

Mean while, most of those games have come in a team up until the end of January were struggling to create good chances.

Next season with Pogba, Bruno and possibly Sancho creating much better and many more goal scoring chances I think Martial has the potential to score 25-30 goals.

The only thing that can really stop him is injuries.

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07 Jul 2020 09:39:39
Totally agree Shappy. He's a fantastic player and is getting the numbers he is without the padding of penalties.

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07 Jul 2020 09:45:29
I hope you are right Shappy. Martial struggles in a side where his back is to goal, but lately since the return we have been very good facing their goal.

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07 Jul 2020 10:16:09
Agree Shappy.
Martial and Rashford are both on 20 goals.
And we still have games left in the league, FA Cup and Europa.

We must also remember that Bruno arrived only in January. The goal scoring ratio since then is the best in the last 7 years.

Now we have Greenwood waiting in the wing as well who looks ready to seize his chance.
Patrice Evra recently mentioned that there has been a huge change in Martial's attitude and desire.

I too have been a critic of him, but he is proving many of them wrong.

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07 Jul 2020 12:28:30
Greenwood is also starting and scoring at the moment!

Martial has not played the CF role for long but he’s learning quickly. Plus we have ighalo off the bench who is the perfect mix of quality and experience.

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08 Jul 2020 11:09:50
I can see our front 3 next season (whichever it is out of Martial/ Rashford/ Greenwood/ Sancho/ Other) performing similar to the Liverpool front 3. Interchanging positions rather than an out and out number 9 which allows Martial to score the goals he did the other day. We have said this before but if the front 3 can score around the 15-20 goal mark each we will be there or there abouts.

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06 Jul 2020 10:50:01
Matic officially signs new contract until 2023.

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06 Jul 2020 12:28:48
Good thing. He is a class act when on form and fresh. He looked very leggy 6 months ago but like a lot of others he has had a new lease of life since bruno came and he has options ahead of him when he looks forward.

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06 Jul 2020 14:47:47
Agree Ken. Seems to be a top professional and a good influence on the team. I was pleased to hear him speak about Scott in particular. Sensible.
Question is if we are willing to give a 31 yr old Matic a 3 yr deal, could we offer willian the same? i know this is unlikely, but may be a shrewd piece of business. knows the league, still has pace, good work ethic and adds experience to the front line. Will allow greenwood to develop more over the next couple of years. Maybe free up some cash for a quick CB, AM cover and postpone the move for Sancho?

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06 Jul 2020 21:47:26
Will highly depend on wage demands, I‘d say.

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