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22 Sep 2021 11:35:02
Rumours circulating that Henderson wants to leave on loan in January?

What to do with him?

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22 Sep 2021 12:03:42
Let him leave on loan I guess. Maybe a sale with a buy back clause in the summer.

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22 Sep 2021 12:45:36
I like Henderson and until the last few games I would have had him as my number one. If we could get a good fee for him, then I guess we would be silly to not move him on as we wouldn't find it easy to move on De Gea.

Kovar coming through the ranks looks like a decent option for the future as well. Seems Henderson got a set back with C.V. at the worst time, and De Gea has grasped the opportunity with both hands.

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22 Sep 2021 12:54:10
This time last year I thought we needed to give him a proper run as first choice. He just came back from two years of excellent work at Sheffield United. While DDG had been slowly declining over the past two seasons.

Last season saw a but of a mess with neither being really first choice. Ole seemed to stick with DDG even though his performances were getting worse. Then when DDG left mid season to go to Spain for the birth of his first child Henderson was given a run out. He did okay, well in some games but he did have a bit of a nightmare against Liverpool. Then when DDG returned there was no clear first choice and both players form suffered.

Supposedly Henderson was told over the summer he'd be first choice this year. Unfortunately an untimely injury followed by catching C.V. and suffering with that for a few weeks meant DDG started the season.

This season DDG while maybe not back to his absolute best form, is currently in the best form he has been in for 4 years. He really started to drop off after the 2016 world cup when he received huge backlash for a few mistakes for Spain.

With his current form he doesn't deserve to be dropped and that puts Henderson in a tricky spot. He can't afford to sit on the bench, he has ambitions of his own. Particularly looking at the World cup with England. He needs a loan in January or a permanent move. I think it would be a huge mistake to sell him without a reasonable buyback clause as I'm unsure how long this DDG renascence will last, and I rate Henderson highly.

I said during the summer we can't afford to have another season of indecisiveness in our goalkeeping position. Bad luck for Henderson and hard work from DDG seems to have turned the pendulum in the Spaniards favour.

Now we need to find a solution for Henderson.

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22 Sep 2021 13:43:26
I never heard one saying Henderson would be no 1
I never heard Henderson say it
I never heard ddg say he was no2
I often remember someone on here scolding and laughing at people who believe every bit of click bait they read.
Henderson was never told he would be no1 or he would have been reinstated to no1 when fit unless one is a complete liar and leading a squad member up the garden path.
So don't believe the click bait just to convince yourself your right.

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22 Sep 2021 14:29:04
I never said it wasn't click bait or anything else. In fact I said "supposedly" indicating the vicarious nature of any such reports.

Henderson himself has said previously that he wants to play, and if that isn't going to be here then he will move elsewhere. That fact that he apparently made no attempt to move this summer suggests he either lied previously or at least thought he would get at least a chance this season.

Again supposedly he is now looking for a loan move in January. Which if true suggests that he feels differently about the chances he will get this season now than he did in the summer.

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22 Sep 2021 15:59:59
I suppose you mean he started to drop off after 2018. Because at 17-18 season with Mourinho he was magnificent.

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22 Sep 2021 16:33:08
Unless OGS wants to go in a different direction I think DDG has put this debate to bed with his performance and link with the defence. He has shown a more agressive nature that was one of the advantages that Henderson had over him.
Assuming this continues over the next couple of months the club should work on getting Henderson a loan in January with a view that this leads to us selling him in the summer.
This move along with a number of other decisions on players needs to be made to bring in the final pieces that will take the team to the next level (What we do in midfield and is WanBisaka what we need at RB) .

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22 Sep 2021 17:28:02
David de gea is our number 1. Fully deserving of it. We've let go of better keepers than Henderson. Ben foster, Sam Johnstone etc.

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22 Sep 2021 17:48:10
Herrera, yeah I meant 2018. typo.

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22 Sep 2021 18:41:31
Shappy is correct Ken, around 4 weeks ago on the M. E. N. podcast Samuel Luckhurst said "he knows" Ole told Henderson in the summer he would be starting this season as no 1.then he got sick. If the podcasts are available to download you can hear what he said.

Who knows if its true but I lean towards beleiving it.

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22 Sep 2021 19:53:15
Samuel lockhurst never makes things up of course how long was he with news of the world or the sun?
So is one that fickle that he will go back on his word after 5 games?
If that is the case Henderson should leave as he can't trust the manager.

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22 Sep 2021 21:42:54
So if it was you then Ken, and you had said to Henderson he'd be first choice then the injury and sickness happens and DDG plays the way he has you'd still stick by your original decision and drop DDG for Henderson?

Surely a place in the team is earned by form, in his current form it would be harsh to drop DDG.

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22 Sep 2021 21:58:56
Jesus Ken your moaning sod.

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22 Sep 2021 22:00:08
He can go. Never seen anything in him that
Suggests he’ll be a Utd No1.

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23 Sep 2021 09:20:01
Fans are a fickle bunch. A slight upturn in form for one of our GKs and an untimely bout of a killer C.V. for the other and our minds swing another way yet again.

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23 Sep 2021 11:08:57
Spenno, I'd be more than happy with Henderson as our No.1.

That said I believe a team should be picked on merit. If Fred is our best performing midfielder then he deserves to play, if AWB is out best performing RB then he deserves to play. If Cavani is playing better than Ronaldo then Cavani deserves to start.

I'm a fan of Donny as a footballer. But last season he didn't show enough in the time he was given to deserve to start over our other options. Last night he played well and has started to ask the question about whether he should start.

Henderson's sickness was unfortunate and had he been able to start the season as first choice I don't think there could have been too many complaints. Yet he wasn't.

DDG has started well, made some great and important saves, showed more authority in goal, better distribution and this culminated in a penalty save that won us 3 points instead of just getting 1.

As such it would be harsh and unfair to drop him as it stands. If his form dips again then Henderson should be given a chance.

However, that very much depends on whether Henderson is happy to sit and wait for that chance (which may not come) or whether he wants to go to a side where he can play every week.

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23 Sep 2021 12:39:24
Well Shappy, according to Ole last night, "stats don't mean anything". So what should we base team selections on, haircuts?

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23 Sep 2021 12:59:50
Spenno, stats are only useful in the right context. Both looking at the stats and watching with your own eyes you can see DDG is playing much better this season and doesn't deserve to be dropped.

Like I said I'm a big fan of Henderson and think he has the potential to be out No.1 for the next ten years. I think his style of play is more progressive and what I would like to see from a modern keeper.

Yet DDG is the man with the shirt and until he drops a few clangers and his form drops he doesn't deserve to be thrown out of the side. If good performances are rewarded with more game time then you totally undermine yourself as a manager.

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23 Sep 2021 14:10:00
You undermine yourself as a manager if you tell a player he will be no1 next season like you believe and then don't stand over your word. Is ole really that fickle or brain dead?

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23 Sep 2021 19:31:16
How many goalkeepers move mid season on loan to be no.1 at a top team. Think options might be limited for Dean, Championship club maybe.

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23 Sep 2021 19:57:40
There is a big for sale list I think
Henderson
AWB
Telles
Dalot
DVB
Lingard
Bailly
Fred
Martial
Plus some Free’ please take aways.
Carrick
McKenna
Ole

There is no one above united would miss, none of above are good enough.

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13 Sep 2021 08:55:53
little rumor for use dunno if the eds can confirm if its BS or not.

but I've been told that united are speaking to mino about pogba and in regards to sorting their relationship out and are confident they can get pogba signed up to a new deal.

Cheshire red have you heard anything.

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13 Sep 2021 09:22:16
Let's hope not. The pogba saga needs to end now, let him leave.

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13 Sep 2021 09:41:41
Souness will be delighted.

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13 Sep 2021 11:09:07
Yh read a story that Pogba is more amenable to signing a new deal, the way he's been playing this year, would be good to tie him down.

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13 Sep 2021 13:15:13
If we sign Pogba let's go out and sign a DM.
I'm happy if it that means Donny goes or 1 more goes.
Pogba needs a Kante like DM or someone close. Maybe let's go all out for Ndidi.

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13 Sep 2021 13:20:52
if i were United, i would do it now as the team is on a high and he will be most likely to sign without demanding heaven and earth to do so.

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13 Sep 2021 14:58:00
Fickle as hell. Few shiny signings so maybe pogba will choose to stay and now everyone's for pogba staying. Few weeks ago it was get rid ASAP. Least my minds not been changed, he should just go. Too much hassle and never truly wanted to be here.

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13 Sep 2021 15:16:04
Pogba had high praise for France DM Tchoumeni.
Maybe he is someone to look out for?

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13 Sep 2021 15:19:35
RedWhiskey, it's funny how people feel differently about different players in similar situations.

Pogba slated for only wanting to commit to the club once they show ambition to sign the best players.

Rooney on the other hand when he went public about not wanting to sign a new deal because the club lacked ambition in their signings was lauded a hero.

In both situations it's a case of a top player just wanting more top class players around them to give them a serious chance at winning titles.

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13 Sep 2021 15:28:20
Red Whiskey, if Pogba wants to go he will go for a free this coming summer and he will not sign a new deal. If he signs a new deal I would say that shows he wants to stay and thinks the team is going somewhere. Personally I think he is a great player, but hasn't done it enough for us. He is playing well at the moment and if this is the Pogba we could see on a consistent basis, then I would love him to stay.

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13 Sep 2021 15:47:51
shappy difference was Rooney was practically a one man show doing everything. giving 10 out of 10s every week.

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13 Sep 2021 17:57:07
Seeing players of the quality of the players that came in this summer is going to make players more likely want to play at Utd.

Players want to play with top players just as they want to play under top managers. I would guess its Ronaldo and Varane that is more impactive than Ole and Phelan but maybe I am wrong.

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13 Sep 2021 21:06:05
We should keep Pogba only if we go on and sign a Ndidi. Next season I want us to go all in for ndidi even if that means we let 6-7 players go (martial, lingard, Donny and 1-2 fringe players more) . He will be overpriced but he's exactly player we need with Pogba.
Pogba is playing well and would be perfect player to find our attacking forwards.

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16 Sep 2021 20:52:51
Let Pogba go, sign Bellingham.

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16 Sep 2021 23:07:30
My only negative comments about Pogba is his lack of effort on the pitch. The bad body language. No tracking back or covering.

This season he has looked much better. Far happier. Even in a midfield 2 he has looked good. Okay, an occasional slip up defensively is expected, happy for him to make up for that in the attacking 3rd. But there were periods last year when he was a liability, and totally unprofessional.

If he wants to stay, and is all in, then I would sign him up and then we need to solve the DM position. He was one of my least favourite players, but he is winning me over.

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19 Sep 2021 11:14:22
He needs to leave. He’s wanted out for 2 years - he doesn’t fit the Premier League style of play. That much is painfully obvious and he’d be happier in Spain and Italy.

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19 Sep 2021 22:31:42
Pogba is, admittedly, my favourite Utd player. He has been untouchable this season and his range of passing is the best in the league. If he stays this committed then he will easily be in the top 3 midfielders in the league.

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31 Aug 2021 18:37:47
Looks like we can scratch Saul off our list then, set to go on loan to Chelsea it seems. ☹️.

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01 Sep 2021 19:48:12
We have a list?
I think we only sign people when City like them :D
Bailly, Sanchez, Ronaldo, mighty Fred.

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03 Sep 2021 00:15:33
Maybe we’ve finally learned from previous transfer windows…. if Plan A isn’t available now, just wait until he is rather than buying second, third, fifth choices etc as we did under Van Gaal and Mourinho?

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03 Sep 2021 07:52:19
Eric, that's actually a great point.

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03 Sep 2021 10:00:57
Didn't Jose say something like Fred was "offered ". Never heard if him, but it was him or no one.

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09 Sep 2021 14:15:40
I think if Fred was offered to me I'd consider it a deep and personal insult and never speak to that person again.

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31 Aug 2021 18:35:12
Eds, any chance of Rice, Neves, or Phillips before the end of the window?

I feel that with all of these world class players that were just signed, it would be heartbreaking to have such a need at a vital position.

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{Ed002's Note - There is no space in midfield at this point in time.}

31 Aug 2021 19:35:52
Wolves chasing Boubacar Kamara, a defensive midfielder. That will get United fans talking and hoping for a few hours.

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31 Aug 2021 21:42:10
No chance.

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01 Sep 2021 00:22:10
The clown thinks Fredis Roy Keane.

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01 Sep 2021 04:30:29
dazw, you just insulted Roy Keane there 😊.

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01 Sep 2021 08:31:07
Dawz, by all reports Ole wanted a DM so don’t think there’s much substance to your statement.

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01 Sep 2021 21:57:27
LLV,

Don’t talk sense mate, he’s a clown and everyone on here knows better.

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02 Sep 2021 07:13:36
GDS2,

Yes, even a clown would know better.

If Ole really wanted a DM, there would had been a plan laid out to move players out early to make space in the team which didn't happen.

It was just the opposite that we dished out new contracts to ageing players and blocked moves for some while keeping the likes of VDB who doesn't seem to be in Ole's plans anyhow.

A CB and CM should had been the priority this window with the RW a bonus signing but everyone knew what Ole's top priority was and that's Sancho.

In short the CB and RW was the priority for Ole and a CM seen as a bonus signing if it happened. There was no serious attempts to make that happen.

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31 Aug 2021 13:57:00
Martial to PSG rumors starting to come in. Could be a good move for all involved.

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{Ed077's Note - except PSG 😂😂. Although I would think it improbable at this stage of the window

31 Aug 2021 14:04:42
Really depends on whether Real come back with another bid for Mbappe. One has to suspect that PSG are hoping that they will though. I know they’re rolling in cash and Mbappe is a top player, but €180m + wages is a ridiculous amount to pay/ lose for the sake of one more season. If he goes, I can see them scrambling to spend the money on Martial and/ or Pogba, which may allow us to bring in a MF. Mendez is apparently working on the deal as an intermediary, although apparently we’re not overly keen.

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31 Aug 2021 15:40:06
Did Tony start those rumors?

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31 Aug 2021 19:05:23
Martial has more chance of signing for Melchester Rovers today than PSG. Sulkychops is here to stay sadly. Frustrating as we know there’s a talented lad there. Just doesn’t show it anywhere often enough!

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31 Aug 2021 19:32:13
I can only see Martial playing in the league cup and fa cup this year unless we have a lot of injuries.

If we want a chance of winning anything this year the left side has to be rotated between Pogba and Rashford, the right between Greenwood and Sancho, the number 10 between Fernandes and maybe Lingard and CF between Ronaldo and Cavani. Rotating these players in each position doesn't significantly alter the quality in my eyes, it is CM that the issue still is.

McFred isn't ideal but it gets the best out of Pogba being on the left and let's the front 4 and full backs do what they do going forward, well maybe not AWB so much.

We always look worse with Pogba in the centre or when Matic comes in which is why we needed an upgrade there, however it was a pretty good window so hopefully CM will be addressed in Jan or next Summer 🤞🤷‍♂️.

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01 Sep 2021 02:35:07
The front 4 options are incredible, and you didn't mention DvdB, Amad, Elanga, Martial. Crazy.

Lindelof and Bailly as reserve CBs

Our squad is stacked.

I actually like McT and Fred surrounded by this team, I am concerned when they can't play. I HOPE McTom and DvdB play together and create something new, I can see Scotty having the physicality height and field coverage to play well with Donny. He needs to be a bit more disciplined.

I think we will suprise a few non believers this year, we could pull it off. The league is very strong, be tough for anyone to win this year.

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01 Sep 2021 17:55:51
I just don't see DVDB getting much league and CL game time again for whatever reason Dodgy, and Amad and Elanga will only be cup players on the whole I think and won't get many league or CL run outs.

I agree those 3 are very good players and add to the rest nicely, I just included the players I see playing plenty of league and CL games. Hopefully Martial isn't one of them, unless he stops being a moody, sulky baby and puts the required effort in.

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31 Aug 2021 11:49:32
As I understand it (and please feel free to correct me) We can register only 25 players for the season over the age of 21.
Who are these?
3 keepers, I assume Grant will not be part of the 25?
Def: AWB, Dalot, Varane, Harry, Eric, Victor, Shaw, Telles (assume jones won't be reg? )
MF: Fred, Mctom, Pogba, VdB, Matic, Lingard, Bruno, Mata
FWD: Sancho, Rashford, CR7, Cavani, Martial, Greenwood

If this is right and Greenwood is U21, don't we have room for an extra player?
Or maybe my assumptions above are naive.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained that space needs to be made for any additions.}

31 Aug 2021 09:17:22
Ed02 - probably been asked this numerous times already, but are we still actively trying to sign Neves (or another CM) this late in the window is that our business done?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - As far as I know Wolves have been speaking with Spurs about Neves. They need to decide, or have probably decided, between him and someone else. I would have thought that at least Lingard would need to move to make space.}

31 Aug 2021 11:49:46
I'd be disappointed to see Neves move and not see United try to get him. Quality player, the type of player we don't have in our midfield.

We can't sign everyone though and had we been a bit better at moving some players on, we might have got the midfielder we all crave.

Also a quick thanks to the Eds (particularly Ed002) for all the work they've put in on the site across what has been the maddest transfer window we've ever seen.

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31 Aug 2021 13:45:04
Neves isn't moving.

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30 Aug 2021 22:46:54
Looks as though Camavinga is off to Real Madrid. That would be him off the list before tomorrow's deadline. That leaves Neves and Saul. Personally I would love Neves but I think the more realistic option is Saul at the moment. A loan deal would probably suit us and he is available. We've had a good transfer window but I am still in dismay that we're one day away from the window closing and it's looking likely that Fred will me a mainstay in our midfield.

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31 Aug 2021 06:51:46
Off topic but can someone explain why Madrid would offer €147 million for a player they can get for free in 12 months, seems an incredible waste of money.

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31 Aug 2021 07:33:29
In terms of a midfield signing, I see Wolves have been linked to Renato Sanches from Lille. Always liked this lad, never completely fulfilled his potential but always been impressed with him. Wouldn’t mind us taking a punt on him as he’s only 24 and there’s a couple of Portuguese at the club obviously, to help him settle. Thoughts?

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31 Aug 2021 07:42:57
Sanches at Wolves is better for the lad, a year of playing week in week out would be best for him after he recovers from injury.
The only possible transfer today apparently is Neves, and maybe Jesse going to West Ham although reports say the two clubs are far apart on valuation. Happy transfer deadline day everyone.

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31 Aug 2021 08:28:31
Real Madrid the real winners of this window: batted lashes at Mbappe so sign for free next year, Pogba on free next year, who will then join Camavinga, bought with some of “MBappe” money they saved up, which leaves enough for Haaland next year!

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31 Aug 2021 08:29:03
Nothing would surprise me. If I had to guess though, we’ll either sign nobody or somebody who we haven’t been linked with at all. Still not convinced Neves or Saul are what we need even though both would improve the team.

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31 Aug 2021 08:52:27
Was I the only one who saw the Renato Sanches to Wolves link and immediately thought it improved our chances for Neves?

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31 Aug 2021 09:23:25
Palhinha was apparently the replacement if Neves moves on. Tottenham were also interested.

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31 Aug 2021 23:48:00
To reply to your first query grim they would get camvinga for free next year but so could united or psg
So maybe they are paying over the odds now to make sure they get him and make it look like they made a premium signing because they weren't getting mbappe.

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