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05 Oct 2020 18:46:45
Free reputedly agreed for smalling.
Delighted for him.

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05 Oct 2020 18:59:47
Hes one of a few that gave his all for every manager since fergie. He might not be the standard that we want to be playing at but he can leave with his head held high! Good luck to him.

05 Oct 2020 19:21:05
A real shame that it’s taken this long. He’s been a good servant to us and should have been allowed to go much much earlier. Ed said all window we were asking for too much. We could have got this deal done weeks ago imo.

05 Oct 2020 19:28:53
Here here W16. and fee agreed obviously.

05 Oct 2020 19:49:27
Good to see it will go through, good luck Mike.

05 Oct 2020 14:09:18
Hi Ed002,

Would Dortmund, at this point, still be willing to sell Sancho if their valuation is met? Or has this ship sailed now.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Dortmund will continue with Sancho as a player and talks will continue with the other interested sides during the season to see if agreement can be reached - but there would need to be a financial shift.}

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05 Oct 2020 15:43:41
Thanks Ed002 for your continued supply of information.

05 Oct 2020 13:58:35
i just don't get united at all.


its a comedy show in the market,

we knew what dortmund wanted yet offer around 16 million short of what they want.

yet agree 20 million euros for telles, don't sell smalling for a fee that could be used to add to the bid we have already sent to dortmund for sancho.

then apprently are in for this 18 year old kid for 30 million euroes but don't have the money for sancho


the bid was obviously just for fun, never any intention to buy the player just a smoke screen for the good old "we tried"

and again made it out to every club that we don't have a clue on how to conduct transfers

i don't get how we can end the season on a positive feeling to now this,

and now we have a few weeks before we play again., .,

and our next 5 games don't look promising with our current form.

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05 Oct 2020 14:45:12
The Traore money was going to be used for Sancho. With that deal dead the money is being spent on other acquisitions.

05 Oct 2020 14:54:37
I don't get comparing Sancho and Traore. We are chasing them for different reasons.

Unfortunately Sly are sensationalising the Traore signing so everyone thinks this is the Sancho alternative. He's just a kid.

05 Oct 2020 14:55:35
Pretty sure the potential for a Sancho deal is the reason why so much of our business is being done late on and why we were pushing for the extra few million for Smalling.

That we’re starting to splash the cash around now would certainly seem to suggest that a deal for Sancho is well and truly off the table now.

05 Oct 2020 15:00:15
What other acquisitions?

Telles was independent of Sancho and Cavani is a free agent.

United allegedly bid £90m for Sancho, and are now signing a kid for less than a third of that. There’s £60m plus that isn’t being spent, despite it being blindingly obvious that our squad is unfit for purpose. The kid won’t even be here till Jan, and even then he will take years to be a starter.

There was no plan this window, and suspect Ole will be gone before the new year.

05 Oct 2020 15:05:55
I think the reality is that the club genuinely thought they could get the Sancho fee down.

Over the last 48 hours when it has proven that they can't and that they have no desire to spend £108m on Jadon in the current climate.

Now the club are facing a backlash and have cobbled together deals for Cavani and Amad Traore to cover their arses. I don't think the club ever had any plans to sign either this window.

I think the club expected a deal for a CAM (Grealish originally, but when Villa wouldn't drop the 80m fee they went for DvdB), a LB looked at Reguilon, Alex Telles and Mykolenko (With Telles actually signing), a move for a young talented wide player such as Stevanovic or Pellistri (a player for the future who might make a few first team appearances this season) and a move for Sancho who they thought they could get the price down for.

When the Sancho deal went up in smoke they quickly spent 60m on Cavani and Amad Traore (who can't join until January) . I don't think the club planned to buy either this summer. Cavani has been available for months, while Amad Traore was going to Parma on loan before that collapsed and we swept in. Clearly two deals that were not a part of our thinking until the last few days.

Our transfer window has been shocking, we will somehow now end up with three highly talented 18 years olds are our only options for the RW unless we play Mata or Lingard there, or continue with a struggling Dan James who we were considering selling/ loaning to Leeds when we thought we could get Sancho.

Utter shambles.

05 Oct 2020 15:59:09
The planning and execution is shocking.

Cavani has not played football for almost 7 months.
His agent said few months back that he would join United only for money.

Why are we again after mercenaries again.

05 Oct 2020 16:15:04
Did you see him say that trd or was it a quote an a click bait article from the metro?

05 Oct 2020 16:36:37
Quote from February Ken, his agent/ brother said this. "If it were for money, Edi would have gone to England, Manchester or Chelsea. ”.

05 Oct 2020 17:03:38
This is part of the article in 4-4-2

Cavani’s brother, Walter Guglielmone, who also acts as his agent, revealed that despite interest from Frank Lampard and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, the striker had his heart set on a move to Atletico Madrid instead.

“Cavani was willing to receive less than with PSG, ” revealed Guglielmone. “Atletico could not cover the total economic cost of the operation and PSG did not want to lower the amounts he was asking for. Atletico Madrid did not close the agreement.

"Do you think that Edi did not play for almost a month at PSG so that I could drop the operation for a commission and that Edi did not fulfill his dream of going to Atletico Madrid? If it were for money, Edi would have gone to England, Manchester or Chelsea. ”.

05 Oct 2020 17:59:24
So he didn't say "he would join United only for money"

That's some twisting of words.

Plus the article is from February. A lot has happened since then.

05 Oct 2020 18:02:36
Yup Ken. His agent did say that and he also said his dream move is Athletico.

Desperation signing : (.

05 Oct 2020 18:02:36
Yup Ken. His agent did say that and he also said his dream move is Athletico.

Desperation signing : (.

05 Oct 2020 20:05:05
So was United desperate or Cavani then, TRD?

05 Oct 2020 13:50:52
Anyone know if Mike Smalling can play the piano? Fully expecting him to be unveiled at 7pm tonight in a fog of dry ice "like a new signing" a la stars in their eyes.

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05 Oct 2020 14:29:25
Isn't that the standard line they trott when someone comes back from a long-term injury, it like a new signing, and we still want more for Mike than we just paid for Telles.

05 Oct 2020 13:07:42
Hi Ed, is Lucas Ocampos available for loan?
Tried searching, but 2013 posts came up!

Cheers 👍.

{Ed002's Note - As I explained - he would be another alternative for Sancho but not on loan.}

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05 Oct 2020 14:10:45
Thanks Ed.

05 Oct 2020 12:37:55
Amad Traoré of Atalanta being linked after his move to Parma collapsed last night according to multiple Twitter "journos".

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05 Oct 2020 12:44:04
Lookz like it done joins in January.

05 Oct 2020 12:58:00
If we sign him and pellistri in place of a winger who can make an impact I’ll be pretty annoyed.

05 Oct 2020 13:02:34
Looks like the club have given up on Sancho. Will be interesting to see if they push for an alternative or divert funds towards a much needed CB. If we’re not getting the Sancho, I think I’d prefer the latter.

05 Oct 2020 13:09:14
Which CB is available on deadline day?

05 Oct 2020 13:23:20
I guess Duje Caleta-Car of Marseille. He is highly regarded and 9ne of Marseilles* better players but they need to generate some cash so might sell him.

05 Oct 2020 13:24:25
Relax redwhiskey, he's being bought for future. Great talent.

05 Oct 2020 13:28:57
Napoli set a price for Koulibaly when City came knocking. Cash plus Smalling could be enough to get the deal done.

05 Oct 2020 13:29:38
I'd have asked Chelsea about rudiger, he would be an upgrade and they letting him leave.

05 Oct 2020 13:31:58
Angelred,

How dare you not bash a future incoming player, it’s the normal procedure isn’t it?

05 Oct 2020 13:33:31
*one of Marseilles better player I meant. Btw Caleta-Car is a CB.

{Ed002's Note - And not moving to MU.}

05 Oct 2020 13:40:34
Didn't Caleta-Car turn down West Ham a few days ago because he wanted to stay at Marseille.

05 Oct 2020 13:47:54
£30 million for Traore. So the Sancho money is going towards 18 years olds instead this transfer window.

05 Oct 2020 13:46:20
I know ed002 we aren't interested in him but isn't he available if a club comes in with an acceptable offer? He turned down the West Ham move a day or 2 ago for a lack of CL football. So I assumed he is "available"

{Ed002's Note - No, it was all resolved in London on Saturday.}

05 Oct 2020 13:50:31
How in was I bashing them? They’re both very young and raw. Simply stating if it’s the clubs way of appeasing fans look we’ve bought wingers then it’s for the wrong reasons. We need someone for the wings right now.

But okay jump head first into trying to call a poster out 😂.

05 Oct 2020 14:16:21
The irony in that last sentence 😂.

05 Oct 2020 14:34:01
GrimisnotDead - think you're right and the club are now spending the Sancho money elsewhere (Traore) .

The club obviously think they've spent enough on CBs in recent times and you can see their point.

Ole has had £140m worth of new defenders in AWB, Maguire and Telles in just 12mths so I guess the powers that be figure that's enough defensive expenditure for you Ole now it's time to do something with these players.

05 Oct 2020 17:07:09
Plus we will have Mike Smalling back, that will be like a £20 million signing in itself Keano.

05 Oct 2020 11:04:57
Cavani and Telles have both signed. Expect a deal for Dembele to come through late in the day after Dortmund reject our €120m bid.

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05 Oct 2020 11:08:32
Hope you’re wrong. What I want to know is why Sancho (who is apparently unwell) has been out of the Dortmund squad for over a week and is currently in the UK. What is going on. Is it really unrealistic to think our terrible PR team have kept this all under wraps and will in fact announce Sancho this afternoon?

05 Oct 2020 11:13:58
would be peak woodward to bid what dortmund wanted all window to then be told to do one.

05 Oct 2020 11:18:27
Find it funny how so many United fans seem to not want dembele and the majority of Barcelona fans don't want to lose him.

On his day one of the best players in the world and a fast attacking style like ours would be a better fit for him than Barcelona who's play doesn't require players to be quick

Ed's already said it's a possibility I hope we are trying to make this one happen.

05 Oct 2020 11:18:41
Sancho not happening, deal went dead a while back, probably even if we offer the full amount today. Sancho is at St George's Park at the moment getting a C.V. test. Dembele, Cavani and Tellas will be the only signings today.

05 Oct 2020 11:29:29
O. Dembele's camp have come out and said he won't leave Barcelona today. He wants to stay there and fight for his place.

05 Oct 2020 11:32:22
Dembele off according to multiple reports.

05 Oct 2020 11:34:04
Sancho broke quarantine earlier in the year to go to UK for a haircut apparently, left out of squad in last 3 games due to challenge and is at a party in UK. might not be the best role model if true.

05 Oct 2020 11:38:32
I suppose Dembele could keep Tuanzebe company throughout this season.

05 Oct 2020 12:08:25
Sancho is trying to push the move too, or at least he will if and when a bid goes it.
Points re: Dembele, on his day, yes he’s great but we can say the same about Pogba. We need consistency, no more gambles.

04 Oct 2020 16:00:15
Telles deal agreed- Ed spot on with the info on this one from the start. Thank you for sharing. Sancho next 😂 we can dream. No dan James today in the squad, wonder if something is going on there.

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04 Oct 2020 16:15:08
with a late season start, i would not be surprised if United are thinking of holding out until January transfer window for Sancho which is only under 3 months away.

04 Oct 2020 18:48:39
Hope we don't get Sancho. No better than rashford. Goes missing in big games like pogba. German League easy in comparison to prem.

He dosent want United. Wouldn't give more than 60mil for him. Much better available for a fraction. Look at Rodriguez at Everton. Class.

04 Oct 2020 19:22:25
Pogba goes missing in every game he plays. Why the club never sold him is baffling.

04 Oct 2020 20:00:25
I don't remember the last game I saw Pogba playing like a real player. He's been missing for 2-3 years now.

04 Oct 2020 21:24:46
and yet they keep telling us he is world class.

04 Oct 2020 21:30:32
France in WC?

04 Oct 2020 21:41:35
Had he had a good game in a red shirt? Let’s not single out Pogba though. Since the restart they’ve all been awful which signals a much wider malaise.

04 Oct 2020 21:48:33
does not matter what players we give ole eric he takes them backwards.

04 Oct 2020 22:51:07
what a result for us in typical fashion it will probs kick the board into gear now and get who we need wldnt be surprised if we got sancho now absolute morons.

04 Oct 2020 23:22:43
Pogba had a great run when ole joined- but that was it. He was hardly in the team last season- time for Donny to start for me.

05 Oct 2020 07:49:14
Let’s hope Telles knows how to defend.

 


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