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Best team moment: Ferguson's whole time as manager


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02 Mar 2021 17:01:47
Eds are you aware of any interest from mufc in Florian Neuhaus of Monchengladbach? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - No. Florian Neuhaus (CM) There remains significant interest in the Borussia Muenchengladbach player with Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund seeing him as a player who will continue to improve. Real Madrid see him as an option in midfield and his representative has made no secret that there has been interest from elsewhere including Manchester City, Spurs, Juventus and the Milanese clubs, but Milan seems a less likely destination. Borussia Dortmund will push hard for him but they have growing money issues. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool at this time but he may offer a solution if Wijnaldum were to leave. BD interest will go ith Rose's commitment to not take players from BM.}


1.) 02 Mar 2021 19:52:13
Thanks for the info Ed.


 

 

 

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19 Mar 2021 10:37:32
Question for all. If you were in charge at Manchester United now what would you do with the Pogba situation, would you look to try and sell him in the summer or would you offer him a new contract?

{Ed077's Note - Sell him. I would have sold him years ago.}


1.) 19 Mar 2021 11:34:58
Offer him a new contract without doubt for a few reasons

1.) he's really good at playing with the football, we still don't have enough players at the club who are in that category, we have plenty who are good without the football, such as Fred, who would be considered world class if football was played without a ball.

2.) He genuinely seems like a good presence in the dressing room, lot of the younger players look up to him due to what he has accomplished in his career.

3.) Replacing him is going to be a tough ask in this window, players like Saul and SMS or even Grealish are going to be hard to get.

The only logical reason to sell would be to cut ties with his agent who can be very abrasive, but the same people who want pogba sold would jump at the chance to sign Haaland who is involved with Raiola anyways.


2.) 19 Mar 2021 12:01:46
DSG, The problem is Pogba doesn't want to stay with us.


3.) 19 Mar 2021 12:10:06
Well if he doesn't want to stay he will leave lol, that goes without saying obviously.

We are not exactly going to hold a gun to his head and force him to put pen to paper.


4.) 19 Mar 2021 12:26:17
Id ask him if he wants to stay if he does i'd offer him a contract in reduced terms. If he wants to leave i'd let him go.
We have held him to his contact this far against his will but he may well look to stay for a year then walk away on a free which would increase his options substantially.


5.) 19 Mar 2021 12:37:32
He wanted to quit for the past few years per Ed002.
The amateurs running the club are holding him against his wish.


6.) 19 Mar 2021 12:45:33
I've always been adamant that he should be sold ASAP. However, unless we are going to get a first team ready creative player in as a replacement then I think it would actually make more sense to keep Pogba next season and let him leave on a free.

I think we could look at a 4222 type formation, with a double pivot shielding the defence and progressing the ball quickly to Bruno and Pogba playing in the inside wide channels, with split strikers of Rashford and Greenwood up front.


7.) 19 Mar 2021 13:55:54
I'd keep him but only if he wants to stay.


8.) 19 Mar 2021 14:45:05
You have it in one utd Road. If he wants to stay and play then offer him a new contract.


9.) 19 Mar 2021 14:52:25
We haven't held him against his will, he signed a contract knowing it was for a lengh of time.

He should honor the paper he signed

But he should have been sold 2 or 3 seasons ago.

{Ed077's Note - he hasnt downed tools, just expressed his desire to leave. So in a way he has honoured the paper he signed.}


10.) 19 Mar 2021 15:27:26
bolger he is honouring his contract and is prepared to.


11.) 19 Mar 2021 16:05:28
I woukd keep him.


12.) 19 Mar 2021 16:51:12
Reportedly PP wants to move on so my instant reaction is sell, but it remains to be seen
a) will anyone stump up for him enough cash,
b) will he want to go to that club
c) will there be a player we can get to replace that will be better, as commercial an asset, who wants to come.
Irregardless of the new appointments the same influences ie woodward/ judge will still hold the cards and I suspect the calculators will be glowing as more than any other window money is the most important factor as a lot don't have any and those who do want to keep it.


13.) 19 Mar 2021 17:06:12
Reports say he wanted away last summer. But who put the money on the table, do we just give him away?
Regardless he has played well this season and imo we look a better team with him in it.


14.) 19 Mar 2021 19:47:10
If we want to win trophies we need a motivated and happy Pogba. He is one of our better players, it's just a shame he has the agent he has that has made things difficult for the relationship by constantly commenting on how he wants to leave and is unhappy.


15.) 20 Mar 2021 00:01:26
Maybe I’m seeing something else but without him we’ve looked average this season. Decent with him! I’d sign him up again if he can be persuaded to stay on.

{Ed0666's Note - if Pogba signs he will could be a revelation. He’s a terrific player when he’s in the mood.


 

 

19 Mar 2021 10:31:53
I hope we Draw Granada in the next round so we can play on ITV.

{Ed077's Note - My prediction would be Ajax or Villareal. Arsenal to get Roma.}


1.) 19 Mar 2021 11:10:21
I think we’ll get Villarreal
Arsenal v Ajax.


2.) 19 Mar 2021 11:29:05
Hope we avoid Villarreal to be honest, I don't think we've ever beat them. I remember several 0-0 games against them. A bit of a bogey team.


3.) 19 Mar 2021 11:47:51
I hope we draw Villareal.
We can closely see Pau Torres who is our first choice CB target.


4.) 19 Mar 2021 12:37:53
So its Granada.


 

 

08 Mar 2021 20:47:40
A lot of talk about Pep on here lately, but here's a question for everyone. If we had got Pep rather than mourinho in 2016 do you think we would of won the league with him by now?


1.) 08 Mar 2021 20:58:31
Yes I do.


2.) 08 Mar 2021 21:00:48
Absolutely Derby. I would put my money on Pep winning the league in his third season at worst case scenario.


3.) 08 Mar 2021 21:08:11
No imo, the board wouldn't have fully backed him.

Will he or anybody be happy if he was given Fred, Grant and Dalot to bridge the gap at the top?


4.) 08 Mar 2021 21:12:28
If he got his players then absolutely yes. We might slate him as much we want but the guy is one of the best manager.


5.) 08 Mar 2021 22:12:56
Yes, absolutely.


6.) 08 Mar 2021 22:34:40
Absolutely.

I also think he would have improved more players. Don’t forget we beat City to the signings of Maguire, Fred and Sanchez.


7.) 08 Mar 2021 22:39:17
Didn’t he want Fred at City?


8.) 09 Mar 2021 03:08:28
Pep went through a lot of players early on. And had a long time of struggles. Would our fan base have been patient enough? Would the board have backed him? He has a good director of football at city, his guy by all accounts. That was not on the cards at utd I think.

I'm enjoying where this team is going right now, and wouldn't change it for its buts and maybes.


9.) 09 Mar 2021 07:19:17
Id change it for a bag of toffee DB.


10.) 09 Mar 2021 07:32:47
I had to laugh on Sunday when Bruno came off and stood behind Ole looking like he was trying to direct the team. I expect him to manage United as soon as he retires, he will be the next Pep. 2030-2040 Bruno will be winning multiple leagues as Manchester United manager.


11.) 09 Mar 2021 07:37:22
Alternatively, if LVG or Jose had gotten the players they wanted they would have won the league too?!


12.) 09 Mar 2021 08:10:24
Yes, jose was a massive mistake.


13.) 09 Mar 2021 08:12:02
100% without a shadow of a doubt. I’d put my house and wife on it.

I even think he’d win the league with our current squad with just a couple of signings. Our younger players would improve massively under him.


14.) 09 Mar 2021 08:16:47
Pep is a great coach, has proved it in multiple leagues so I have no doubt at all he would have won a league title or two with us. I was screaming for his appointment on here and was devastated when the City announcement was made. Some think I wanted Mourinho, no look back I wanted Pep and only when our useless board missed out on Pep did I say Jose, mainly because missing out on Pep meant City were going to become dominant and they have.

Pep has a way of playing that is consistent, it may get unpicked as we did it on Sunday yet it will be successful nearly ever game and they will win the league again this season. Pep sets out a structure, a proven winning structure and it would have worked for us. I don’t buy this nonsense that it wouldn’t work at OT that is just defensive of where we are.

The only question is whether it would be 22 and looking at 23 if we had gone with Pep instead of Jose and Ole.


15.) 09 Mar 2021 09:58:40
Pep has been hugely successful at City and is arguably the best coach in the world and has been for several years and will likely continue to be for several more.

Yet his dominance at city has as much to do with their set up as it does with his coaching.

They have a DoF who knows Pep very well and who he has an excellent working relationship.

They have owners who are committed to making City THE top side. Owners who not only invest in the squad but in all aspects of the club from the academy, to training facilities, to media and even to the surrounding area.

As such Pep has been able to bring in the players he wants and needs to succeed in the manner he has.

Would he have had that at United? When he asked for Dias, Mahrez, Laporte, Walker, Bernardo Silva etc would Ed Woodward have delivered or would he have got him his 4th or 5th choice? Or the more commercially attractive option?

Would Pep have won a title at United, maybe but if he did he would have had to have done it with one arm tied behind his back.


16.) 09 Mar 2021 10:05:46
Tricky one, Pep has a set way of playing and has spent hundreds millions on getting the players that fit exactly into his system, before he did that they struggled a bit. So would the board have backed him? Would they have spent £250m on full backs when we already had full backs, I’m not sure they would. So then it comes down to whether Pep can win titles with his 3rd choice signings or players that don’t quite fit his system.

We can all agree he’s a better and more accomplished manager that Ole so would probably have done better than him but I don’t think it’s a certainty we would have won the league because there is a good chance we wouldn’t have signed the players he wants for the system he plays.

{Ed077's Note - the club delivered most of the players Ole wanted, so surely Pep would have received similar support from the club. And Pep did lose out on some of the players City have chased like Sanchez, Maguire, Fred,etc..


17.) 09 Mar 2021 10:18:08
Mind you a lot thought jose and his big cv was going to win the league 🤔.


18.) 09 Mar 2021 10:25:05
Jose wouldve won the league had he been backed the way pep was.

I wouldve tsken klopp over pep any day and I doubt Pep wouldve won the same amount of titles with us compared to what he has won with city.

He literally bought two players for each position to win the title and i doubt our club wouldve given him two players for each position.


19.) 09 Mar 2021 11:07:36
So there we have it then Singh, Pep wouldn't have won the league as just like Jose he wouldn't have been backed to do so.

Which begs the question who could win the league without the full backing of the whole club?


20.) 09 Mar 2021 11:48:30
Jose finished second and was given dalot, Fred and grant! How the man did not win the league is beyond me 😂.


21.) 09 Mar 2021 12:16:29
Yes jred you called for and wanted jose. You got him then after 3 finals and our best league finish since sir Alex you moved the goal posts and wanted him fired. Let that be a lesson to you and be careful what you wish for.


22.) 09 Mar 2021 12:35:23
Ken
When we finished 2nd you repeatedly asked me if jose should be fired I told you everytime he definitely shouldn't.
The following sesson it was obvious he was going to get sacked .

I 100% wanted jose I thought he would do well. I'm not going to make any excuses for him, I was wrong . Not all managers work out that's football . And there is nothing wrong with admitting when your wrong,


 

 

07 Mar 2021 23:39:27
Very good performance Today, Martial was very good along with Luke Shaw while the team executed the game plan very well. What is frustrating is looking at what could be, looking back over recent results and we've dropped 9 points to four teams we should of been beating and been within 2 points now and that's not even thinking about the games vs Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea were I think if we'd of give it a real go we could of come away with all the points. Overall there is progress and we are probably the 2nd best team in the country at the moment but we could and should be much closer to city. If only we were a little braver in certain games but credit to ole because once again he gets his tactics spot on against pep.


1.) 08 Mar 2021 04:16:38
Agreed. I think the problem is that we lack a plan B. Our results against the top six have been solid since Ole can in with us picking up quite a few wins and rarely getting beaten. Sadly, against a lot of smaller teams we rely far too much on moments of individual brilliance where we should instead be setting up in such a way as to make our superior quality count. Lining up with two holding midfielders against teams who offer very little going forwards is both frustrating and nonsensical and has resulted in us drawing and losing a lot of games that we should have been winning comfortably. It’s negative, overly cautious and boring to watch and is the reason why we’ll finish this season fighting for a place in the top four rather than the title. It’s frustrating, because it’s almost like Ole has mastered the hardest part but is for whatever reason unable to do what most managers could do if places in his position.


2.) 08 Mar 2021 07:40:22
On one hand we think what could have been if we’d won a few more games. On the other hand we expected a battle for the top 4 and some on here said we’d be lucky to finish in the top half.

Luke Shaw was excellent and has been for most of the season now. He’s been our best player imo.

Everyone did well apart from Fred. He takes too many touches and I really have no idea what’s going to happen when he’s in possession.

Still no reason to really focus on negatives after a derby win. City’s winning run is over and that’s thanks to us so let’s enjoy it 👊.


3.) 08 Mar 2021 08:58:32
If we aspire to be the best we need to be able to play and nit just rely on counter attacks. Teams will just sit deep and wait til tjiz current Utd run out of ideas. The better opposition with their shooting boots on will beat us.

We need a plan B and the players to implement it. We are so far behind City because we ate nowhere near good enough to be title winners. don't let yesterdays admittedly hood performance obscure the truth.


4.) 08 Mar 2021 09:41:46
I’m sorry Salford, but I have to disagree with you on that. We were top of the table a month or two ago and had we set up a little more positively in some of the games since then we’d still be there or thereabouts now.


 

 

03 Mar 2021 17:41:37
Apparently we'll see Cavani, Bailly and Henderson all start tonight. I hope that is true.


1.) 03 Mar 2021 22:15:16
you got your wish.


 

 

 

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15 Sep 2020 19:42:47
He probably in the future wants to be Madrid's left back to. so we would be better walking away from the deal if he's just waiting for Madrid to buy him back one day. Maybe put time into developing Williams.


 

 

 

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26 Mar 2021 21:59:44
Somewhere out there Ronnie will be doing cartwheels if it's true we're interested in Tielemans.


 

 

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08 Mar 2021 16:02:09
Yes I was thinking this yesterday and even the CBS seem more solid and assured. It's his presence in the area which impresses me, he will come for a lot more than de gea which probably eases the defenders in not having to make a decision. De gea is happy to stay on his line which could be a reason for conceding a lot of set piece goals although there's no denying de geas shot stopping abilities.


 

 

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04 Mar 2021 08:14:14
So why are you looking forward to the meltdown Shappy? I don't get why it would bring you joy knowing we've just been beat off City. Do you think it's fair that we are constantly served up this drivel yet constantly told its ok because Ole is improving us, Jose was hounded out the club for these type of performances. Ole doesn't have the balls to use his squad and players are now looking tired Rashford was a waste of space last night but played the full 90 and do we really need two holding midfielders against Palace? The fact is from the position we were in 8 games ago we should be challenging for the league now and it goes back to the game at Anfield which if we went at Liverpool and win that game the lift and energy it would of gave the squad would of maybe pushed us on to getting more points but oles safety approach has killed any momentum as its become glaringly obvious he's happy to settle for top 4 which is we will ever get under him. I don't want that, I hate the fact we are now a top 4 club some seasons with no title challenge in us, oles good runs followed by bad runs will never ever get us to that point.


 

 

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26 Feb 2021 13:05:45
I think he means the clubs not necessarily the players 🤔.


 

 

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26 Feb 2021 07:18:47
I thought he was ok last night his movement off the ball was good and he seemed to be more involved than he has been lately. If he and Greenwood could find the kind of scoring form from the back end of last season we will go on a good run.