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15 Jul 2016 23:54:49
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has insisted the Italian champions have had no contact with Manchester United over midfielder Paul Pogba.

On Friday, Marotta poured further cold water on the speculation in an appearance on Italian television, simply telling
Sportitalia that there has been "no contact" with other clubs.


1.) 16 Jul 2016 06:37:13
The old adage applies. Never believe anything until it is officially d
denied!
I am hopeful.


2.) 16 Jul 2016 08:38:06
Dortmund did the same with Mkhitaryan.


3.) 16 Jul 2016 09:22:45
Have we put a bid in to the player's club? The more credible sources (relatively speaking) seem to suggest we haven't as yet; more that we've only held talks with his agent around terms for the player. And if we haven't put in a bid, and he's supposedly our top target, then why not?!


4.) 16 Jul 2016 12:51:19
Juve are negotiating other deals for incoming players. Why would they confirm that they could be getting £100m+. Only increases asking price for players they're interested in. Reality is the market knows. But no pointing making it easier.


 

 

17 Jun 2016 10:44:11
Well Mino Raiola has popped up again saying they are working hard to convince Dortmund to let Mikhitarian leave for United.
I like the guy (Mikhitarian of course! ), but Dortmund are downright SOBs when it comes to transfers and usually end up getting their way - just like Tottenham.

Eds "do you think we can pull this off? "

{Ed004's Note - I would like to think so. This seems to be a case of Dortmund trying to save face. They'll want their fans to think they tried very hard to keep the player and that (if he moves) the offer they received was too much to turn down for a player who wants to leave.}


1.) 17 Jun 2016 11:14:42
Thanks Ed. I do think Mikhitarian will be a good acquisition but my Chelsea-supporting cousin thinks I'm under rating the player. He's hoping the deal doesn't materialise, how do you rate the player?

{Ed004's Note - Haven't really seen enough of him but his stats where extremely impressive from last season}


2.) 17 Jun 2016 11:18:36
Thanks Ed004👍.


3.) 17 Jun 2016 11:26:03
Is t Mkhitaryan in his final year of contract there is no way they will let's other player leave on a free transfer next season I think they will sell him.


4.) 17 Jun 2016 11:52:54
Keyser
They did that with Lewandowski.


5.) 17 Jun 2016 15:08:46
I hope we get Mkhitaryan. Right footed option from the right but very good at it - a rare breed. He scores and lays on so many chances which Zlatan et al should make the most of.


6.) 17 Jun 2016 18:45:53
Mkhitaryan was obviously the best player this season in the bundesliga. He is pure class and will even get better.
Just to inform you.


7.) 17 Jun 2016 19:05:04
One word, Kagawa.


8.) 17 Jun 2016 20:51:33
Different type of player.


9.) 17 Jun 2016 17:18:18
just a weird club who keep losing players on a free or it always seems like no one wants to stay or extend. No other club is ever in the news as much as they are with key players not wanting to say, extend etc.


10.) 17 Jun 2016 22:02:05
But that's probably more to do with Bayern winning every year X, and they know any top players they get once they start performing eventually they're going to go and bayern take all their very best.

Must make it hard to stay motivated knowing that's going to happen especially if you feel you have the talent to be winning things and clubs that are going to be challenging for titles come in and offer you more money.


11.) 18 Jun 2016 08:05:58
Jamal

To a degree yes, but if they had retained what they had, they can give Bayern a run for their money. supposedly great stadium and 80k fans every game, A lot of teams in many other leagues who don't win the league but are competitive seem to have more loyalty from their players. Something strange at Dortmund.


12.) 18 Jun 2016 13:41:08
Was thinking this the other day gcu it seems they never have renewal.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2019 14:30:22
Ok, to the Eds and everyone else.

I'm not the type to knee-jerk and I usually disregard news from unverified sources - needless to say the Eds rank up there.

Well, I saw Dalot trending on twitter and what did I find? A SimonSmithBBC claiming that OGS has told Dalot he can stay for very limited play time or leave as AWB will be an understudy to Ashley Young (still has a big role to play) .

This is demoralizing tbh. Even though it isn't verified yet, if this is the case, I think OGS has further proved my doubts in his ability and judgment.

In as much as we were happy with purchase of AWB - a fine defender, majority of fans celebrated because it means the end of Ashley Young at Manchester United.

Thoughts?


1.) 30 Jun 2019 14:45:29
Lol, just noticed my post is not complete.
It should be

I'm not the type to knee-jerk and I usually disregard news from unverified sources, I only believe thing from official outlets or verified sources - needless to say the Eds rank up there.

Sorry for the mix up Eds.


2.) 30 Jun 2019 14:48:47
Did you look the profile? A fake i'd with lots of nonsense in it. I saw it month ago and reported it. It hsd couple of follower before but has grown massively, probably because of BBC attached at the end of the name.

Its funny how you claim to differentiate between genuine and fake source and get worried by tge fakest i'd in twitter.


3.) 30 Jun 2019 14:59:30
No I didn't Srestha, matter of fact, I'm not even sure that handle was the originator of the news because some tweets on that issue predate the one posted by that handle.

I didn't claim to differentiate, I stated I do believe verified sources like official outlets, agents, players themselves, the Eds etc.


4.) 30 Jun 2019 15:12:37
You got to ignore those post mate. Most of them have no idea what is going on and others use other papers as their source.


5.) 30 Jun 2019 15:17:11
Look, there are loads of reports like this every year. People either trying to make a name for themselves or just trying to upset fans of a rival team.

Fact is Ole hasn't even taken one training session with AWB yet, plus there will be more signings yet. How the team evolves over the next couple of months during pre-season and the start of the new season will determine what Ole's go to 11 are and the tactics he intends to use.

Anyone saying they have "inside" info to the contrary are just lying or misinformed.


6.) 30 Jun 2019 16:38:55
Says doesn't believe unverified twaddle then proceeds to panic over unverified twaddle. Dalot was one of the few bright spots last season.


7.) 30 Jun 2019 18:03:27
The most telling thing is that Dalot got lots more game time under Ole than he did under Jose. I hope that he will be rotated with both Shaw and AWB, and Young will only be used in rare cases.


8.) 30 Jun 2019 18:26:12
The best teams have 2 players in each position fighting for a place


No one can rest on there laurels knowing there is someone there ready to pounce

Worked perfectly when ole played
.

Also dalot can play on the wing.


9.) 30 Jun 2019 19:39:38
Yeah right, we paid £50M for him to sit on the bench and before you say it, that wasn’t the plan with Fred, he ended up on the bench because he was pants.


10.) 30 Jun 2019 21:35:18
The original story has been changed to Darmian.


11.) 01 Jul 2019 06:42:41
Caolan,

When I heard the story yesterday I assumed they had got the players mixed up, it made perfect sense if you replaced Dalot with Darmian, there may be nothing in it but if there is it is just a case of the wrong player being named.


12.) 01 Jul 2019 11:20:06
Yeah, poor reporting GDS.


 

 

26 Dec 2018 17:50:03
It's surprisingly quiet. Well, at least the whole team seems to be playing better. Even Pogba. Who'd have thought playing the right system works?


1.) 26 Dec 2018 18:13:22
It's great to see. Totally refreshing. We could've had more had we been more clinical with the final ball. But the amount of possession, forward passes, chances is fantastic to see. Need to take the next 6 points and then focus on spurs.


2.) 26 Dec 2018 18:37:58
Thank God Jose has gone .
No martial Sanchez or lukaku today a full front 3 out .
Potentially such a good team.


3.) 26 Dec 2018 23:44:46
Added to the result is this little gem from the United page.

“United finished the Boxing Day victory over Huddersfield with four academy graduates up front: Angel Gomez, Paul Pogba; Jesse Lingard and Marcus Rashford”

Icing on the cake!

It’s early days of course, looking at where we have been in recent times and what Ole, the staff, the players and supporters have been able to achieve in these two games is almost unbelievable.

Could they have done better in these two games? Not concede any goals possibly but they have still been very convincing wins.

It shows what positivity, the right attitude, teamwork and the right attitude can do.
Long may it continue. On to the Bournmouth game.

He has been our sunshine so far!
Ed0333 said - I hope he gets the full time job.
Can Ole make himself undroppable?


4.) 27 Dec 2018 06:36:20
Mike, I take you point but I’d much rather win 3-1 than 1-0. Let’s attack and try and score, hopefully we’ll score more than them!


5.) 27 Dec 2018 10:17:52
AJH
Oh I agree, I was trying to say that if we are looking for areas to improve, a 3 - 0 win would be an improvement, making our defence even stingier.
But I will take 3 - 1 any day of the season mate.


 

 

30 Sep 2018 15:10:26
Ok

1. Mourinho picked McTominay in a back 3 benching Bailly for a mistake made over a month ago. Just to take a piss at the club for not buying him a shiny new Aldeweireld


2. Picking a team without balance and transition from defense to attack and people are surprised.


3. Still employing zonal positioning both offensively and defensively. Constraining players support and making the whole team disjointed. At a point Pogba was surrounded by 3 West Ham players with no teammate in support. He luckily got a foul and was livid screaming at his teammates for not supporting for a pass yet he's the bad one.


4. Obviously, most of of the players aren't playing for the coach any longer.


5. Losing the game 2-0, what does Mourinho do? He takes off Pogba and Martial leaving McTominay, Young, Fellaini and Matic still on the pitch. Were we trying to defend the scoreline or equalize?


6. We practically played with 7 at the back yet were trailing 2-0 down at HT.


7. I'm not going to talk about lack of chemistry, telepathy or choreographed movements as that's a unicorn level wish.


8. Just like Bailly, he benched Alexis just to say “told you so” and justify playing Alexis week-in-week-out.


9. And for those of you slating Pogba for speaking out about playing defensively, what did Mourinho do after the game? Publicly slated Martial. Don't forget that Lukaku, Matic and Young were the worst players on the pitch but he says nothing because they're his loyal boys.



10. Yet if Martial says anything about need to attack, you guys will be the first to chide him forgetting that's what you all want and that's what is screamed down from Stretford End.


Many of the fans think they love the club more than the players. Well that's true but not for all players. Some of these players came through the system and live and breathe the club though may end up leaving but it doesn't make them less of fans.


Even as footballers, they want to succeed, to win to write history so they have more at stake and want to win it more than us.


In that vein, why wouldn't they want to go to a place they believe they can win, where they can play beautifully and be a success? Do you think Van Persie would have come to United if we were playing the way we are now with such a poisonous manager?


And don't give me the argument of effort, it's BS football is not a power sport. A player doesn't need to rub at 100mph. That's why Spanish teams trounces us every time. Liverpool and City have shown that and Sarri will establish it soon enough.


When the system is flexible and accommodates the strengths and weaknesses of its individual components, it consolidates everything and becomes strong. But when a system is rigid and expects all the components to work against their strengths while ignoring their weaknesses then its doomed to fail.

Go figure.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 16:16:10
I agree with every point Yaz. Especially about players speaking out against Mourinho. Anyone who thinks that a player is in the wrong saying Manchester United need to play on the front foot is insane. The first person to publically disrespect the club was Jose after all following the sevilla defeat. Fans and players should have turned on him then. If Woodward had any balls he would have sacked the prick that night.


2.) 30 Sep 2018 16:31:53
Who's fault is it players can't make a 5 yard pass?

Jose needs to go but most of this squad needs to follow him. Personally i'd play the u21s from now till the new year.


3.) 30 Sep 2018 17:44:24
Yaz, best post I've read in years. Absolutely nailed it. I feel worried at the three people who have disagreed with you. Because, by disagreeing, they're basically saying that Mourinho is in the right. And he most definitely is not.
I don't like Pogba's love of social media, but i will have him in our team any day.
Mort, the reason players can't pass the ball 5 yards is because the system is wrong, and the training and mentality of our manager is wrong. He's the one who shpuld be setting them out to find space for our players to pass to, however, he chooses to play a defensive formation where the players are static and hence the man in possession doesn't have options. This is not rocket science, Barcelona have been doing it for 15years. Fergie's teams did it for 20 years. City, liverpool, spurs are doing it now. It needs training, fitness, hard work, and tactics. Non of these are evident in pur manager's thinking and our team.


4.) 30 Sep 2018 19:03:49
It’s both, but we have seen how Chelsea, and even Arsenal respond to new Managers. It doesn’t have to be either or, it can be both.


 

 

23 Jul 2018 18:14:00
What is this I'm reading about Ribalta leaving for Zenith?

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.


1.) 23 Jul 2018 19:04:05
I've heard that the chef at Carrington has been offered the head chef position at the Lowry Hotel. If the club allows this to happen I might have to pack it in with them.


2.) 24 Jul 2018 09:23:36
Nathaniel that is a very naive reply. A business is only as good as its staff. Staff of all levels seem to be wanting out. It’s a big concern, whether it is a good player or a good scout.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 19:55:12
Though I've always been an advocate of standing by the manager (whoever s/ he is), I honestly cannot wait for Mourinho to leave.

He always has an inferiority complex with popular, confident and expressive players as such, he cannot hide his dislike for them.

He mentioned captain potentials currently in the squad;

“The captain was Valencia last season, I think he’s going to be the captain, ” Mourinho said. “And when he doesn’t play we have to make decisions.

“Depends on who is on the pitch, if Smalling is, if Ashley Young is, if Herrera is or Mata is, if they are on the pitch they have an option.

“Matic has all the attributes to be Manchester United captain but he arrived only one year ago.

“But I never care much about the captaincy, I care more about the life in the dressing room and the leaders. The armband means what it means. ”


My question is, where is Pogba?

I like my captains to be vocal, active and give 100% even if they're technically not too gifted.


With that, from his list, Young, Herrera and Matic are good.


But Valencia, Smalling and Mata are no-go.


For me, I would rather Pogba, Lukaku, De Gea or any of Herrera, Young or Matic.


1.) 20 Jul 2018 20:12:07
I don't think he would mention Pogba when Pogba is happy to leave the club.


2.) 20 Jul 2018 20:30:10
Moreover Jose is also happy for him to leave. I for one can’t wait for Jose to move on.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 20:39:19
Has Valencia done anything wrong as captain to be removed? If he is still first choice he should be captain.

I agree with Jose on the captaincy. It is over emphasized and made out to be far more than what it is. What we really need is for players collectively to lead on the pitch and take respinsibility when we are down or have to close out a game.

One speech by Pogba at half time being broadcasted has suddenly got everyone clamoring for him to be captain yet the French team had a different captain who rarely spoke and made a mistake in the final.

Perhaps we should realize you don't need to be captain to show leadership.


4.) 20 Jul 2018 20:48:13
Fans are more bothered about the captain than players, don't need the armband to be a captain .
Looks like Tony will be our captain and first choice rb.


5.) 20 Jul 2018 20:53:08
Well said Refaith. Captains in football is not as important as it is in other sports like cricket. Where each decision is taken by the captain. Football is too fastforward for the captain to be involved making decisions all the team.


6.) 20 Jul 2018 21:06:32
Not entirely clear how effective you can be as Captain if you don’t speak the language.


7.) 20 Jul 2018 22:23:46
Making a habit of this today but again agree with jred, other players without an armband can open their mouths and inspire and lead without it.


8.) 20 Jul 2018 22:33:49
Captains make a difference on the pitch not in the dressing room, managers make a difference in the dressing room.


9.) 20 Jul 2018 23:41:34
Played Saturday football for years and our manager gave the captain's arm band to the less vocal or talented footballer. Always seemed to give the player a boost. Never questioned his commitment in the games then. Players who have it all should lead by example and prove to everyone each match why he is best.


10.) 21 Jul 2018 05:51:46
Guys, the first thing I think of when you say captain is a person who is vocal, respected and loved by players, shares a bond of friendliness with teammates and can pull the team up during the game by motivating and haranguing his players to give more.


Based on this, would you choose Valencia over Pogba?

Redfaith you got me wrong;
1. I'm not advocating solely for Pogba - I also mentioned Lukaku.
2. Pogba gave a speech every game not only the Argentina game (you probably didn't know) .
3. Younger players have a special connection to players like Herrera, Pogba and Lukaku because of their infectious playfulness.
4. Valencia is quiet and his English is still wobbly at best (how many years in England? )

On a final note, how many times do you see Valencia, Smalling or Mata in-game dishing out commands and guides to other players?

That's why I said Matic, Young and Herrera are all capable because not only are they vocal, but also technically adept (yes, Young also to an extent) .

But when you take all these qualities; leadership, vocal, language, technical proficiency, will and desire to win, tenacity respect and bond with team-mates, then look no further than Lukaku, Pogba and Herrera for captain material in the team.

The second tier can hold Matic, Young and De Gea.

But Valencia, Mata and Smalling? 😂.


11.) 21 Jul 2018 07:59:25
Maybe Valencia, Mata and Smalling have been chosen for their length of service? Or maybe because they won’t be the types to question Jose’s instructions on the pitch?


12.) 21 Jul 2018 08:06:31
Neither Pogba nor Lukaku are captain's for their countries. That didn't stop them both rallying the troops at the world cup.

Ideally everyone should have a winners mentality and shouldn't need to be geered up by thier captain.


13.) 21 Jul 2018 08:37:04
How about what has Valencia done right?

We seem to have this noose around our club, that accepts ticking along as success. It was the same with Rooney as captain. Just maybe you expect your captain to not be Joe Average performer, even if you ignore the insane fact that our captain can't speak the language.

Same thing goes with the managers, too tolerant and too desperate to believe that a leopard will change their spots.


14.) 21 Jul 2018 09:40:42
I think WRD might not be far from the truth and that's in line with what I said.

Basically, Mourinho wants a yes man who not only obeys him but also does not have an opinion or does not have confidence to express himself.


15.) 21 Jul 2018 09:54:05
Let’s be honest, the only way is up.


16.) 21 Jul 2018 10:43:39
Like john terry cassilas and zanetti? Nonsense yaz.


17.) 21 Jul 2018 11:12:48
I’m wasted.


18.) 21 Jul 2018 11:23:40
Who didn't Mourinho have a fallout with among them Ken?

People where here basically crying over missing someone like Keane.

Nonsense is thinking someone else's point of view is nonsense just because it isn't same as yours.


19.) 21 Jul 2018 11:41:50
Yaz👍
ajh didn't get the credit u deserve.


20.) 21 Jul 2018 12:04:55
seems Jose is going by length of service. Carrick was captain last season, hardly ever played.


21.) 21 Jul 2018 13:20:26
Wasted when you wrote the post probably, Tony. Us old ones got it, mate.


22.) 21 Jul 2018 13:21:23
Don't think captain's need to be loved. I doubt one of our greatest ever captain's was loved too much. Feared, definitely.


23.) 21 Jul 2018 15:20:28
Valencia couldn't handle the No7 shirt . We are missing out by not selecting Pogba as Captain he is the best to motivate on the pitch and can speaka da lingo! 😆😆.


24.) 21 Jul 2018 23:14:25
Not when your opinion is contered
by facts yaz. Zanetti and terry nor cassialls were yes men. All strong characters who often fell out with jose but all kept the captaincy.
The nonsense was you just making stuff up. I agree with 2 of yoir choices as captain. Herrera wo t play often enough i suspect.
Jose said valencia will be captain weeks he plays hardly a ruining endorsement that some would
Have you believe.


25.) 22 Jul 2018 10:25:27
A+ Tony 😂.


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2019 05:24:08
You big tease Ed002:)

This is the first time I'll not agree with you Ed001. At this point, we need Pogba in our team.

As for the rest talking about "ambition" "passion" "commitment" "loyalty" and all that, we're in a different era. Pogba may not be the best but he's among the best ballers and since his arrival at Manchester United, he has not featured in the best five players in the world. Any appearance in any selected world-level team is based on his international duties. He has no chance of winning the Premier league or champion's league in the coming days. The club aren't showing much ambition to strengthen yet you all want him to smile and keep it up to show "he loves the club".

Yet if any of you had a better offer than your employers that would lead to a more successful and beneficial future for you and your families you would take it without thinking - isn't it hypocrisy?

Remind me how many trophies Bale won at Madrid. Maybe he should have stayed at Spurs they would have at least won the FA Cup.

On a final note, 8m not saying loyalty is not good, but ambitious and also visions have to match. Also, do remember we're at an age where "playing for the badge" is becoming history.

{Ed001's Note - what are you wittering on about? People expect Pogba to break sweat and make an effort, it's his job and he is well paid to try. Instead he strolls about being a lazy get, it doesn't matter what era you are in. Have you not seen the top 3 last season play? All 3 had 11 players on the pitch making an effort, which is why they are the top 3. Pogba apologists, excusing him being a lazy tit despite being paid millions to stroll around the pitch laughing at the fans paying his enormous wage to do f all, are just embarrassing. Clueless.}


 

 

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03 Aug 2019 15:15:18
Tony do you honestly expect Dybala to happily want to leave a team with Ronaldo and several stars which is guaranteed at least a major trophy and also UCL football every season and come over to us because we are Manchester United?

That ship has sailed!

No matter how attractive a team is, it still has to make an effort to appeal to a prospective player.


 

 

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20 Jul 2019 05:46:15
Wazza you still haven't explained how. Throwing statements doesn't justify the veracity of the said words.

What did he do to cause problems in the dressing room during Mourinho's reign?

I'm sure a lot of people would like a bite of your "exclusive"


 

 

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23 Dec 2018 08:06:32
FZZ

You're right about that. Lots of fans have been poisoned on Pogba's issue. Mourinho knew that he was getting found out and divided the fan base.

Furthermore the Pogba hate has to do with much more than his attitude but a narrative which has been pushed on by loads of pundits (ardent ones of which are scouse) that Pogba is overrated, publicity Whore, arrogant and disrespectful. Which in all entirety is false but of course we know why players like that are bashed.

Highly hypocritical that same people hyping luxury players as geniuses are attacking a player who gives in more effort for the team.

It has gotten to a stage where his performances are judged by distance covered or number of balls lost (not a fair matric for a risk-taker) .

Look at the whole media execution and brouhaha he faced due to the image posted for an Adidas event. Even if Pogba put up the smirking picture by himself (which his media team took claim), or it was just his picture taken at a personal function (which wasn't as obviously it was an Adidas event), he deserved benefit of doubt or a fair hearing but all you man were up on your high horses taking aim at him.

Alexis drives into Carrington listening to "I'm free, I'm free" and not an eyelid was batted. I didn't hear Gary Neville, Roy Keane or any scouse ****. er on that.

I come on here but no furore nothing for Saint white Sanchez from all the guys here labeling Pogba as toxic. Its funny that the only person who thinks he is is Mourinho and some people for whatever reason (his former coach at Juventus didn't, his national coach doesn't, hell eve Fergie said the agent was the problem not the lad) .

If Pogba had put up that video.


There is a bias for certain people but the most annoying thing is how we allowed Mourinho to pull wool over our eyes, divide our hearts from the team and turn us against our players and selves.

The same Mourinho who always spoke about himself, his victories, his titles, whenever we lost. The same man who refused to evolve his obsolete game yet attacked the ability and integrity of his players publicly in the media, The same Mourinho who didn't know the word "we" and who looked you in the eye and told you that your club has no football heritage.

If it were Mourinho, yesterday wouldn't see us attacking from onset (we always sit back and allow our opponents build their rhythm and tempo) .

If it were Mourinho yesterday, you would never have dreamt of us exhibiting the high press.

If it were Mourinho yesterday at 2 - 1, we would have gone defensive and tried to protect the lead only to capitulate at death.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, it would beeen have been a rigid formation with our fullbacks both not bombing up.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, it would be Matic and Fellaini not one for the other.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, our players will have no confidence and pleasure to play with delight, exuberance and joy.

He had already had a fight with Valencia over a trivial social media issue, with Bailly over a negligible issue, with Sanchez over how the game is played, with Shaw countless times even the week before he was sacked that's why he didn't play him. Of course they had to split with Pogba because he stood up to him about the style of play and how the players aren't enjoying it.

I don't care what anyone says, I'm old enough to make judgement, I have vast experience in civil service and man management. You can't frustrate your workers, make the job as boring and as detestable as you can, slate and castigate them in public (both their colleagues, rivals, families and whole world) then expect them to run into a brick wall for you. Ever a dictator will not get that loyalty nowadays.

I'm not saying wet have suddenly turned a corner - we'll definitely lose some but we'll play beautiful game with first intent on winning not defending.


 

 

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23 Dec 2018 08:07:09
@FZZ


You're right about that. Lots of fans have been poisoned on Pogba's issue. Mourinho knew that he was getting found out and divided the fan base.

Furthermore the Pogba hate has to do with much more than his attitude but a narrative which has been pushed on by loads of pundits (ardent ones of which are scouse) that Pogba is overrated, publicity Whore, arrogant and disrespectful. Which in all entirety is false but of course we know why players like that are bashed.

Highly hypocritical that same people hyping luxury players as geniuses are attacking a player who gives in more effort for the team.

It has gotten to a stage where his performances are judged by distance covered or number of balls lost (not a fair matric for a risk-taker) .

Look at the whole media execution and brouhaha he faced due to the image posted for an Adidas event. Even if Pogba put up the smirking picture by himself (which his media team took claim), or it was just his picture taken at a personal function (which wasn't as obviously it was an Adidas event), he deserved benefit of doubt or a fair hearing but all you man were up on your high horses taking aim at him.

Alexis drives into Carrington listening to "I'm free, I'm free" and not an eyelid was batted. I didn't hear Gary Neville, Roy Keane or any scouse ****. er on that.

I come on here but no furore nothing for Saint white Sanchez from all the guys here labeling Pogba as toxic. Its funny that the only person who thinks he is is Mourinho and some people for whatever reason (his former coach at Juventus didn't, his national coach doesn't, hell eve Fergie said the agent was the problem not the lad) .

If Pogba had put up that video.


There is a bias for certain people but the most annoying thing is how we allowed Mourinho to pull wool over our eyes, divide our hearts from the team and turn us against our players and selves.

The same Mourinho who always spoke about himself, his victories, his titles, whenever we lost. The same man who refused to evolve his obsolete game yet attacked the ability and integrity of his players publicly in the media, The same Mourinho who didn't know the word "we" and who looked you in the eye and told you that your club has no football heritage.

If it were Mourinho, yesterday wouldn't see us attacking from onset (we always sit back and allow our opponents build their rhythm and tempo) .

If it were Mourinho yesterday, you would never have dreamt of us exhibiting the high press.

If it were Mourinho yesterday at 2 - 1, we would have gone defensive and tried to protect the lead only to capitulate at death.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, it would beeen have been a rigid formation with our fullbacks both not bombing up.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, it would be Matic and Fellaini not one for the other.

If it were Mourinho yesterday, our players will have no confidence and pleasure to play with delight, exuberance and joy.

He had already had a fight with Valencia over a trivial social media issue, with Bailly over a negligible issue, with Sanchez over how the game is played, with Shaw countless times even the week before he was sacked that's why he didn't play him. Of course they had to split with Pogba because he stood up to him about the style of play and how the players aren't enjoying it.

I don't care what anyone says, I'm old enough to make judgement, I have vast experience in civil service and man management. You can't frustrate your workers, make the job as boring and as detestable as you can, slate and castigate them in public (both their colleagues, rivals, families and whole world) then expect them to run into a brick wall for you. Ever a dictator will not get that loyalty nowadays.

I'm not saying wet have suddenly turned a corner - we'll definitely lose some but we'll play beautiful game with first intent on winning not defending.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2019 16:29:07
Nice to hear that Sychlops, wish you many moe matchday experience.

Would have gone myself but traveled unfortunately.

Hope transfers work out and OGS improves the team. Hope we do great this season 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽.


 

 

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18 Jul 2019 22:25:04
But Ed, I also don't think I abused the dis/ unlike button but erm, I may have been trigger-happy 🙌🏽🤣.


 

 

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06 Jul 2019 09:45:53
Finding an excuse for Sanchez not performing but castigating Pogba for also not performing (albeit with the best performance stats than all our players) .

I wanted Pogba to stay but with his agent's exposé yesterday, I want him gone.

Pogba's reasons may be genuine; maybe he doesn't see the ambition or aims of the club align with his or he doesn't feel the love from the fans or perhaps he's being the snake "he is" but the manner in which this is going, I'd have him shown the door.

That notwithstanding, using him as an excuse to justify Sanchez's no-show is a disgrace.


 

 

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05 Jul 2019 21:55:30
I'm just stating facts. I've taken your words places and never been let down. It's a testament to the efforts you put - and all the other Eds. Long may it continue and I wish you all ascension to greater heights.

Thank you so much for the info Ed. I wouldn't mind Saul and Rakitic tbh.


 

 

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05 Jul 2019 20:12:15
Ed002 you have once again been proven right.

Please, if you were to recommend a replacement for Pogba and also a central defender that would be an upgrade, suit the Man United "way" and not be a saga or bad transfer.

I just wish Manchester United will seek Ed002 for directions on transfers, academy and DoF/ technical roles. When I see the shambles that we are and then the golden words of knowledge from Ed002, aaah! A man can only wish.

{Ed002's Note - Thank you for the kind words. If Manchester United can find a way to sign Saul it would be a terrific move. Ivan Rakitic brings a great deal of experience and he gets a decent number of goals - against him is his age and it being no more than a short term fix - but at the right price he will still be in the frame. Others that have been considered have their pros and cons - Idrissa Gueye is seen as not a great choice by at least one person at MU; Rodri has moved to Manchester City; Carlos Rodriguez makes zero sense; Youri Tielemans has been seen as a cheap CM option if Pogba leaves - a long term favourite of Mr Mourinho again but seemingly heading elsewhere; Giovani Lo Celso has been looked at but after Real Betis signed him and are looking to treble their money (in reality they might be able to double it - but they are asking $75M) it is Spurs who are looking to use the money that will come from a sale to boost their midfield further.}